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When is the Liam/Micah PPV cagefight? It's a shame nobody knows who these guys are - that actually might be fun to watch.
CG Tardfights might sell.
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#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!
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CG Tardfights might sell.
EDIT: Micah is responding now:
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What the absolute fuck is Leedle? Man? Woman? Troon?
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I thought it was a girl too but might be confusing this person with another of Liam's former orbiters with the alias Lydol? Lysol? Something like that.
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I honestly think Vikki is brain damaged from years of feeling irrational hatred towards yourself and other CG personalities. Like an ulcer, but in the noggin'. To the point where she'll openly display moral inconsistency in order to take a jab at you.
Case in point:
I don't think anyone here really expects "Team Iconic" to throw Doug under the bus for what happened, but it's completely ridiculous and dishonest for her to suggest that CG woke up one day and decided to start listening to Hut for no goddamned reason whatsoever. She's intentionally omitting the whole Doug puppeteering Hut to go after you for the past three years thing. It ain't exactly a minor detail, either. It's the entire crux of the current shitshow. Who "glommed onto" who first here?
Zack isn't just "simple," he's now utterly pathetic. It's sad.
My favorite part is where is said if we believe Hut's story with respect to Ernst controlling him, we also have to believe everything he's ever said about FROG.
I'm pretty sure that's not how that works here. He completely avoids the fact that what Hut was saying all this time didn't originate from Hut, but from Ernst. Just like Vikki.
Indeed, I'm sure a fair number of the IC orbiters probably coordinated their damage control response to this. Said response basically consists of claiming Ernst is a mensch, and otherwise ignoring the elephant in the room.
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What Newman's Lovechild said.... Why would anyone smart enough care about fringe comics basically aimed at GenXers?
Not to mention, that the very moment Iconic reminded him that deadline is next Monday, Zack would start chewing off his arm to escape this Khmer Rouge tyranny. And that's not considering returning drafts for corrections. that Meyer never asked for...
It's possibly a moot point by now, but I wonder if
a) Hut was deliberately set up from the very start by Ernst to be the mouth piece for whatever Ernst's id was thinking about but couldn't say because he still has a functioning ego and super-ego,
or
b) Hut was another sad sack who thought he could be a contender, and was discovered by Doug a few videos in, saw "potential" and drafted him on his gay-op...
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My take on the video is YBZ has distanced himself from Livestreams/CG because he was too aware of gayops and petty squables and backchannel talk and instead opted not to fight those battles by stepping outside, keeping relationships with all sodes and is instead more worried about "big picture stuff".
Plus, he has seen these shit in Iraq and Afghanistan with real regional warlords coming in and killing eachother. What makes you thing culture war would be any different?
We may throw the Simple Zack joke around but I doubt he is as dumb as he comes off. To me it feels like he had numerous epiphanies about the state of CG, then forgot about them and just stuck to whatever excuse he thought off when asked about livestreams.
I mean he used to say comics would go bust in 2022, CG will die out in 2022 and he would probably get back to working in IT in 2022 back in 2017/2018 and he was correct about it.
Him stepping away from CG (while taking on Mark Waid) was him avoiding all those things he is probably too aware of for quite some time yet ignores. He is too calm in his video to believe he did otherwise.
As for Hut, he was a useful idiot that Douf Ernst fed lines to pester his other fat arch rival comic book pro.
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The voice is female now but it sure as hell didn't sound female when I first posted the stream.
Manwithn0n0men
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I mean look....he's like an Uncle to Wes's kid
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Has Zack really been "keeping relationships with all sides"?
Is there anyone outside CG circles who has any sort of "relationship" with Richard Meyer? Do you think people outside of CG who know who Zack is all of a sudden think he's a cool dude because he stopped sperging about cum dumpsters and isn't being mean to Mark Waid and Kwaanza anymore? He has no relationships outside of CG.
For that matter, does it seem like he has any relationships inside CG? The only person who ever really talks about him is Ethan. Sure, he has professional contact with guys like Narwhal and Kelsey because he needs artists for his books, but the one guy who actually likes Zack and considers him a personal friend is a guy Zack doesn't want to be around in any public capacity. He won't accept Ethan's help or advice, he won't come on the show to bullshit for a few minutes, he won't do anything to acknowledge Ethan in any way, despite Ethan only ever helping Zack succeed.
As for the culture war stuff, Zack is definitely not staying away from that shit. Look at what he's uploaded in the last couple of weeks:
It's "SJW" this and that. It's gay pride bullshit. It's Twitter slapfights (which he supposedly "stepped outside" of as well). And it's praising Doug Ernst.
I believe the reason he stopped doing livestreams is because he's a control freak who hates having his assumptions and actions questioned and would rather not have to talk about any mistakes he may have made. Even on his YouTube channel he selectively deletes comments that aren't sufficiently complimentary. It's definitely not so he could have relationships with anybody or to get away from the culture war.
I'm reminded of blind hogs finding truffles. Richard has been doomsaying as long as he's been doing YouTube. He'll eventually be right at some point.
We've all witnessed Zack's uncanny ability to reach the absolutely wrong conclusions despite all evidence, so whatever "epiphanies" he may have had about CG were likely worthless.
The thing is, he hasn't really avoided shit. Ernst still orchestrated hit pieces on him by proxy for the last 3 years. People still think he's the comic ripping sperg. All he's managed to do by separating himself from CG and livestreams is hurt his business and that is just a fact. Between dropping CG and making all the wrong choices, I'd estimate he's cost himself at least a million dollars in the last two years. If that's Zack's idea of "big picture stuff", he sucks at it.
Zack has spent a ton of time talking about "SJW Mean Girls" and rimming Doug Ernst's butthole just this week. But when Ernst does some SJW Mean Girls shit directly involving Zack, all of a sudden Zack has nothing to say? He's just got no time for that kind of shit even though that's all his channel is? The economy tanking is suddenly more important but it just wasn't a big deal four days ago when he was recording his lovefest for Iconic and talking about SJW shit that didn't involve him.
I mean, I can get not wanting to be involved in a general sense, but to not even say "fuck you" to a guy who spent 3 years shitting on him behind some retard's YouTube channel is spineless. Zack never did anything to Ernst that would warrant the shit Ernst was saying about him and Zack is just gonna take it because that's who he is now.
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I hope nobody here actually thinks Zack's effusive praise of Iconic Comics is sincere and based off some kind of misplaced friendship, and not him laying the groundwork before an anticipated partnership ala "Narzack". In case you guys haven't noticed after five years, if he has no use for you you may as well be invisible.
Meyer's motivation here is that his business continues to be held hostage by the incompetent and crooked "secret fulfillment agency based in New Jersey" and the "per touch surcharges" that run up tens of thousands of dollars on all of his campaigns as no other publisher thinks the profit margin on comic book fulfillment is worth the proven mass walkouts and negative press campaigns that will happen when someone is publicly shown to be taking on Comicsgate business, let alone that of Richard C. Meyer himself. Willing himself into becoming Brian Pulido with the power of wishful thinking didn't work, but he has a couple of options here - Frog is willing to bail him out with his own ALLCAPS publishing infrastructure in exchange for allowing Frog to harness the dubious value of the "Diversity and Comics" brand by going on his livestreams, or he could fulfill the comics himself with the help of a few mexicans. But both of these options would involve mild personal inconvenience or effort on his part, and that's just not going to happen. Hence overtures to Iconic Comics in the hopes of reversing his fortunes from the parasitized to the parasite. Ernst though doesn't seem to share Frog's estimation of Meyer's value, brand or otherwise, to put it extremely mildly.
When it became apparent that Ernst did not find the privilege of serving Simple Zack appealing, Meyer posted some pissy snipes in Ernst's direction on his community wall a couple of months ago, adopting some SJW rhetoric criticizing Ernst's sinking his own money into a campaign to make sure it's on time and of high quality "boring" and "defeating the purpose of crowdfunding", perhaps getting too accustomed to the one-sided nature of throwing stones at mainstream figures. Instead Ernst put his tard proxy Comic Book Hut aside and revealed his true power level for a solid hour and a half of evicerating the Simple One beyond any and all sense of proportion. Looking at the dates Hut's e-mail inbox screencap, this coincided with some videos being sent Hut's way.
Two months since then, it seems Simple Zack has managed to repress the traumatic self-incurred past encounter with Dark Doug, given his present need to get someone to fulfill his comics for him on top of the people writing and drawing them.
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If Hut's story is true, Ernst approached Hut as a reporter from the Washington Examiner, with the claim that he found Hut's video's appealing and wanted to help him out.
So, it would be a combination of the two, I guess.
You can almost say Zack didn't do anything, and then put a period at the end of that sentence.
Ernst using Hut as a proxy against Ethan makes a certain amount of sense. It's underhanded as all hell, mind you, and using Hut of all people is borderline stupid, but Ethan could still cause trouble for Iconic if he wanted to. Hell, he's already bringing heat on them because of this revelation (and understandably so).
Zack, on the other hand, isn't a threat to anybody anymore, and hasn't been for a long time now. Not CG. Not anti-CG. Not the SJWs. Nobody. The fire inside him died along with the Meyer v. Waid lawsuit.
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Honestly I'm still struggling to wrap my encephalitic braincasing around this. It's glorious! If it is 100% true that Doug provided Hutt with all of his material while maintaining his own channel and working on comic books that actually meet their deadlines, he's got to be one of, if not the, most efficient and prolific creators out there right now. At least for a writer.
I really hate that he stooped to the gayopry though. All that effort could have gone into more writing projects. Mr. Dongs uses the imagery of Doug placing a sword in Hutt's hands but it was more of a foam sword aimed at an already busted piñata. Still I am disappoint. Scivergate has enough of its own problems to keep it from greatness and pointing it out won't be as bad as it once was when Sciverfrog's gayops were in full effect. I think it's fitting Ethan screams in pain over a little nibbling sensation, but let's go above board from now on. No more skulldouggery. Gotta hand it to him though, Ernst might have set a new record for sustaining a steady water torture drip for so long! Can the world can handle this level of dark Flanders energy? Is Roilup the new hype man?
As for Hutt, he is now the CG version of Jason Genova. Enjoy the ments.
I really hate that he stooped to the gayopry though. All that effort could have gone into more writing projects. Mr. Dongs uses the imagery of Doug placing a sword in Hutt's hands but it was more of a foam sword aimed at an already busted piñata. Still I am disappoint. Scivergate has enough of its own problems to keep it from greatness and pointing it out won't be as bad as it once was when Sciverfrog's gayops were in full effect. I think it's fitting Ethan screams in pain over a little nibbling sensation, but let's go above board from now on. No more skulldouggery. Gotta hand it to him though, Ernst might have set a new record for sustaining a steady water torture drip for so long! Can the world can handle this level of dark Flanders energy? Is Roilup the new hype man?
As for Hutt, he is now the CG version of Jason Genova. Enjoy the ments.
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Exactly right, and it just illustrates what a mean-spirited cunt Ernst really is.
Doug Ernst manipulated a borderline retarded, emotionally stunted patsy to take shots at a guy who not only was in no position to threaten his business, but generally praised Ernst's business model and product on a regular basis.
Don't get me wrong, I'll alog Zack all fucking day around here but I'm a random KF scumbag. I'm not presenting myself as some sort of moral paragon who doesn't dirty his hands with the CG riffraff while I secretly talk shit through other people. I don't have my shitheel friends doing livestreams and making videos defending me and telling the world what a good person I am when evidence comes out that I'm actually a petty fuckhead.
In conclusion: fuck Zack, fuck Hut, but double motherfuck Doug Ernst.
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I would Cast Aspersions towards Ernst for his Gay Oppery, however knowing the Hut being inept, weird, and having a weird voice most likely was the most irritating way to get under CG's skin? Brilliant.
So brilliant in fact I almost can't take it seriously or be mad about it. I am sure Frog has pointed out how weird CG's critics can get, and Doug took those comments as instruction.
Well played Doug, well played.
So brilliant in fact I almost can't take it seriously or be mad about it. I am sure Frog has pointed out how weird CG's critics can get, and Doug took those comments as instruction.
Well played Doug, well played.
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A few mostly irrelevant bits from adjacent spaces that were sitting in my queue:
A recent Tuesday Night Main Event. Some Mecharandom disowning a few minutes earlier. Gary admits he's not talented, but doesn't care (likely because George! added as many zeroes to his bank balance as FNT has on their streams) and Jeremy admits he might have fucked up the Zach Snyder situation just a teensy bit. Only took a year, but one appreciates the baby steps towards honesty.
The up-and-coming big dawg of the indie comics scene and admitted former urban terrorist @YoungRippa59 appears to be wrapping up the world's longest pre-announcement media blitz (a year and counting) and inching ever-so-closer to, I dunno, showing us what the drawings in the funnybooks look like. A half a century of rightist outreach to minorities is about to pay off in a big big way. Based! Apparently, the shipment announcement from last week was only part of the merch and he's still waiting on others, so everyone anxiously anticipating the dawning of post-racial America with our politics (downstream from culture dontchaknow) being inundated in a deluge of libertarian fervor led by unlikely patriots like Mr. July will just have to wait a bit longer.
The books have in fact not yet arrived, by the way. He's saying early July on those. However, the reason the campaign hasn't launched is not because of the books (because whatever who cares about those), it's because he's launching a website for his business that the books and related merch will be sold from instead of using a site or service that facilitates such. This man has aspirations unlike most others, you see. These things are complicated and they take time (and $130,000+ in startup costs, all his own apparently).
At any rate, this video illustrates the fundamental flaws in Eric's thinking: his inability to grasp why talking about something you're not (yet) prepared to do might have negative consequences vis-à-vis people's opinion of you over time. His rationale for not revealing anything is that he didn't want to make anyone wait after the reveal and yet he's perfectly ok with hyping it ad nauseam and making people wait a year to find out if he's full of shit or not. That strategy may be all well and good in the heady libertarian philosophical spaces of markets and rational decision making but entertainment is a charismatic game and storytelling is an implicit deal you're making with an audience that you court. You don't court them for a year with nothing but talk and then claim you haven't asked anything from them (yet) so they have no right to complain. The very act of promoting/hyping/"discussing" something is an ask in and of itself. You're asking people to notice and care as you go on stream after stream touting your big plans. Eric often acts as if he thinks he's the only person in the universe who has had big dreams and plans. That said, some of the best stuff is made by otherwise utterly delusional people so we'll see...
On a recent Simpcast- this one sans Anna TSWG -one of their recurring panelists who runs by the name of Leah Fennelly, a hard-working Hooters waitress struggling to put herself through law school, made what some perceived to be a revealing admission when she referred to her Hooters patrons as "clients." Or, maybe it's not revealing of anything and she's open about being an escort. Either scenario is equally likely given the element that this new wave ofobviously disgruntled former liberals and consequently pozzed as fuck conservative firebrands bring to center-right online commentary. At any rate, the meangirls of Simpcast, being true to character, waited until she was gone to fully throw her under the bus. The slip o' the tongue from an obvious escort in their midst got the widest Cheshire Cat grin from the notoriously cantankerous coquette, the mocha Ryan Kinnel, the chans' own Brittany Venti. It remains to be seen if based "Brittler" will be opening another front for her ongoing drama series' Catfights with Girls of the Right, currently monopolized by her beef with JACK Show recurring guest BXBullet, but time will tell...
Also, in a development that should surprise exactly no one, the female "nerd culture" interlopers of Simpcast appear to have inducted transexuals into their ranks, with this stream appearing for most of it's runtime to be 33% men in drag. Perhaps this is old news and mitigated somewhat by the fact that these particular trannies are pro-liberty and pro- freeze peach or whatever so ultimately it's a Good Thing™ that will show those lefty SJWs how tolerance really works. But, it just seems off-message and running counter to the Simpcast brand strategy of harvesting Superchats from lonely men of the anti-SJW "nerd culture" space.
FNT / G+G
The subject of @FROG apparently came up on a Jeremy / G+G stream a few Wednesdays ago but I never found it. This was going to be tied-in with that.A recent Tuesday Night Main Event. Some Mecharandom disowning a few minutes earlier. Gary admits he's not talented, but doesn't care (likely because George! added as many zeroes to his bank balance as FNT has on their streams) and Jeremy admits he might have fucked up the Zach Snyder situation just a teensy bit. Only took a year, but one appreciates the baby steps towards honesty.
Rippaverse Update
The up-and-coming big dawg of the indie comics scene and admitted former urban terrorist @YoungRippa59 appears to be wrapping up the world's longest pre-announcement media blitz (a year and counting) and inching ever-so-closer to, I dunno, showing us what the drawings in the funnybooks look like. A half a century of rightist outreach to minorities is about to pay off in a big big way. Based! Apparently, the shipment announcement from last week was only part of the merch and he's still waiting on others, so everyone anxiously anticipating the dawning of post-racial America with our politics (downstream from culture dontchaknow) being inundated in a deluge of libertarian fervor led by unlikely patriots like Mr. July will just have to wait a bit longer.
The books have in fact not yet arrived, by the way. He's saying early July on those. However, the reason the campaign hasn't launched is not because of the books (because whatever who cares about those), it's because he's launching a website for his business that the books and related merch will be sold from instead of using a site or service that facilitates such. This man has aspirations unlike most others, you see. These things are complicated and they take time (and $130,000+ in startup costs, all his own apparently).
At any rate, this video illustrates the fundamental flaws in Eric's thinking: his inability to grasp why talking about something you're not (yet) prepared to do might have negative consequences vis-à-vis people's opinion of you over time. His rationale for not revealing anything is that he didn't want to make anyone wait after the reveal and yet he's perfectly ok with hyping it ad nauseam and making people wait a year to find out if he's full of shit or not. That strategy may be all well and good in the heady libertarian philosophical spaces of markets and rational decision making but entertainment is a charismatic game and storytelling is an implicit deal you're making with an audience that you court. You don't court them for a year with nothing but talk and then claim you haven't asked anything from them (yet) so they have no right to complain. The very act of promoting/hyping/"discussing" something is an ask in and of itself. You're asking people to notice and care as you go on stream after stream touting your big plans. Eric often acts as if he thinks he's the only person in the universe who has had big dreams and plans. That said, some of the best stuff is made by otherwise utterly delusional people so we'll see...
Simpcast
On a recent Simpcast- this one sans Anna TSWG -one of their recurring panelists who runs by the name of Leah Fennelly, a hard-working Hooters waitress struggling to put herself through law school, made what some perceived to be a revealing admission when she referred to her Hooters patrons as "clients." Or, maybe it's not revealing of anything and she's open about being an escort. Either scenario is equally likely given the element that this new wave of
Also, in a development that should surprise exactly no one, the female "nerd culture" interlopers of Simpcast appear to have inducted transexuals into their ranks, with this stream appearing for most of it's runtime to be 33% men in drag. Perhaps this is old news and mitigated somewhat by the fact that these particular trannies are pro-liberty and pro- freeze peach or whatever so ultimately it's a Good Thing™ that will show those lefty SJWs how tolerance really works. But, it just seems off-message and running counter to the Simpcast brand strategy of harvesting Superchats from lonely men of the anti-SJW "nerd culture" space.
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Hmmm, from here in January:
Hmmm, from here in January:
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Yeah, so specifically, in the video he says he's got over 100 large in this endeavor now with another $30,000 still to come (hence the $130,000). I'd have to go back and look at it again but it was unclear to me if that $30k was for warehouse upgrades (he talks of a "racking system" and a/c), website/storefront costs, or the two subsequent books that are apparently in development right now (or all of the above).