#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[FROG]

Also why have Ethan and YBZ been trying to rehab Mitch and trying to get their audience to buy Mitch's substandard comics?

Where is this happening?

 

[Newman's Own]

I mean when has Ethan been charitable to a rival who is outdoing his platform?

I mean Ethan's telling us that Doug told him that he wanted to have an "uncomfortable conversation" about professionalism with Mitch and that Ethan told Mitch that meant there was going to be a hit piece.

Strange admission but this has been a strange day.

Usually he's better at covering his ass.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Yeah. And this was "attacking Doug's business."

He has gone full time making his comic. You are still a youtuber full time

Where is this happening?

When his last crowdfund imploded. YBZ did a couple of videos trying to talk mitch up. I think I heard you doing something on a live stream (but I might be wrong.....as I don't stalk your livestreams)

And you are trying to rehab Mitch's rep in this very thread Ethan. A man who (if Rumors are to be believed on here) may have lied about you harassing his wife

 

[FROG]

While Doug sperging for days about what Kelsey Shannon did in a livestream is indisputably whiny and gay, you can't really claim "harassment" when you're at the same time making sock accounts to fuck with said person. Mitch also has an established history of evading perfectly legitimate questions regarding his business and conduct, like when he went dark for years and disconnected all public contact information posted for Allegiance Arts once people started asking where their comic was. I'm sure he'd describe all those people asking where their shit was while the same comic was available in the 50 cent bargain bin at Walmart as "harassment" as well.

Agreed, but this was KELSEY's conduct that Mitch was being made to answer for.

 

[Newman's Own]

So Doug goes full retard because some backer were "upset" that the IRL drunken version of "The Dude" as a comic book artist, who wasn't listening to what was going on in the stream at the time, say "Fuck Doug"?

Pretty much.

But then Mitch and Ethan cook up a story to scape goat Doug for all their sins.

It reads like Shakespeare doesn't it?

"Alas poor BatBud. She gay oped well."

 

[FROG]

He has gone full time making his comic. You are still a youtuber full time

I've been making comics for nearly 30 years. Doug's made two in his life. And he's only the writer.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Agreed, but this was KELSEY's conduct that Mitch was being made to answer for.

Right.....and instead of talking to Doug (like a grown ass Man) Mitch bitched out and claimed "Harrasment"

I've been making comics for nearly 30 years. Doug's made two in his life. And he's only the writer.

You definately spend more time on Youtube talking about Drama then you do making a comic these days.

Doug is rolling out #3 (and his IP has crossed over in multiple comics with the IP of two other creators he partnered with)

Some one sounds more like a full time comic creator.....and it isn't you

 

[FROG]

Right.....and instead of talking to Doug (like a grown ass Man) Mitch bitched out and claimed "Harrasment"

I don't see why Mitch needed to talk to Doug about Doug's problems with Kelsey. I get that Doug was trying to be a Karen, but Mitch isn't responsible for Kelsey's internet behavior.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

I don't see why Mitch needed to talk to Doug about Doug's problems with Kelsey. I get that Doug was trying to be a Karen, but Mitch isn't responsible for Kelsey's internet behavior.

If you have an employee working for you and someone else wants to talk to you about it [ and Contractors are your employees..,... despite what Marvel/DC say] you have a conversation with them.

Instead of ducking someone. You have a conversation and handle your business like a grown-ass man. Much like you did when your Colorist fucked around and didn't get a book printed up. You bailed his ass out. Because his bad conduct reflected badly on your business.

That is how a man behaves.

Mitch doesn't behave like a grown-ass man

 

[FROG]

Right.....and instead of talking to Doug (like a grown ass Man) Mitch bitched out and claimed "Harrasment"


You definately spend more time on Youtube talking about Drama then you do making a comic these days.

Doug is rolling out #3 (and his IP has crossed over in multiple comics with the IP of two other creators he partnered with)

Some one sounds more like a full time comic creator.....and it isn't you

Who cares? I am a comic book creator with actual credentials. Doug can try to be one of those too, if he applies himself.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Who cares? I am a comic book creator with actual credentials. Doug can try to be one of those too, if he applies himself.

He has three books, Started a company (that delivers his books ON TIME and at high quality), and no longer uses Crowd Funding to produce his books. He sells them to customers directly.

One of you sounds more successful.

And the other one is arguing with some one on Kiwi Farms to protect the reputation of Mitch Breitweiser and Comicbook Hut

 

[FROG]

If you have an employee working for you and someone else wants to talk to you about it [ and Contractors are your employees..,... despite what Marvel/DC say] you have a conversation with them.

Instead of ducking someone. You have a conversation and handle your business like a grown-ass man. Much like you did when your Colorist fucked around and didn't get a book printed up. You bailed his ass out. Because his bad conduct reflected badly on your business.

That is how a man behaves.

Mitch doesn't behave like a grown-ass man

I printed Starblades for a share of the profits. I didn't do it because not doing it would "reflect badly on my business." Other people's comics aren't my business.

Doug was trying to make Kelsey's behavior Mitch's problem. Mitch refused to allow Doug to do that. Like an adult.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

I printed Starblades for a share of the profits. I didn't do it because not doing it would "reflect badly on my business." Other people's comics aren't my business.

Doug was trying to make Kelsey's behavior Mitch's problem. Mitch refused to allow Doug to do that. Like an adult.

The fact that a person you regularly employed sat on his own projects to work for you didn't reflect badly on you? The fact people said he took their money and couldn't give them a finished project (because of his work for you) didn't reflect badly on you?

If you believe that.....that is an impressive self-delusion and I commend you.

No....Mitch could have just had a conversation with Doug.

Instead by bitching out he MADE it his problem.

He made it his problem by failing to do the bare minimum as a man.

And you are here defending Mitch who sold you out because he thought Walmart would make him rich.

 

[FROG]

He has three books, Started a company (that delivers his books ON TIME and at high quality), and no longer uses Crowd Funding to produce his books. He sells them to customers directly.

One of you sounds more successful.

And the other one is arguing with some one on Kiwi Farms to protect the reputation of Mitch Breitweiser and Comicbook Hut

He has three books nobody heard of published by a shipping company owned by one of Vanilla Ice's back up dancers. He no longer uses crowdfunding because he's being subsidized by a rich guy in a Turtle costume, and, from what I hear, Chinese investors.

He is very successful. That's why he's panicked over a grizzly adams looking dude telling him to go fuck himself.

I'm here because it's fun.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

He has three books nobody heard of published by a shipping company owned by one of Vanilla Ice's back up dancers. He no longer uses crowdfunding because he's being subsidized by a rich guy in a Turtle costume, and, from what I hear, Chinese investors.

He is very successful. That's why he's panicked over a grizzly adams looking dude telling him to go fuck himself.

I'm here because it's fun.

I mean He and his partners say they are funding their own business.

And they have a better track record then you do with honesty

You have proof Doug and Tim are lying about how they are funded?

 

[Rupin]

Right.....and instead of talking to Doug (like a grown ass Man) Mitch bitched out and claimed "Harrasment"


You definately spend more time on Youtube talking about Drama then you do making a comic these days.

Doug is rolling out #3 (and his IP has crossed over in multiple comics with the IP of two other creators he partnered with)

Some one sounds more like a full time comic creator.....and it isn't you

thats not really fair. I mean yeah he’s late as fuck with Cyberfrog #2 but Ethan did put out the Cyberfrog Omnibus, The BloodHoney box with ashcans, Published Starblades, Two issues of Creed that were all new stories by Trent Kainuga, selling t shirts, beanies and beach towels, is about to fulfill on his action figures, started on Reignbow the Brute and will do a second chance campaign on Rekt Planet soon.

That’s a bit more work than Earnst did with His two issues of Soulfinder.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

thats not really fair. I mean yeah he’s late as fuck with Cyberfrog #2 but Ethan did put out the Cyberfrog Omnibus, The BloodHoney box with ashcans, Published Starblades, Two issues of Creed that were all new stories by Trent Kainuga, selling t shirts, beanies and beach towels, is about to fulfill on his action figures, started on Reignbow the Brute and will do a second chance campaign on Rekt Planet soon.

That’s a bit more work than Earnst did with His two issues of Soulfinder.

Three issues. He also worked on tie ins with Kamen America and Black Hops (so a total of 5)

And....sure I am being unfair and busting on @FROG balls because he is carrying water for Mitch who sold out Comicsgate as a movement to try to enrich himself....failed....tried to suck up....failed....and is now ONCE AGAIN and MYSTERIOUSLY at the center of Comics Youtube Drama (and Ethan runs a Comics Youtube Drama channel)

I'll admit I am being a TAD unfair to Ethan but its not like he is deserving of fairness because he is trying to defend Mitch

 

[FROG]

I mean He and his partners say they are funding their own business.

And they have a better track record then you do with honesty

You have proof Doug and Tim are lying about how they are funded?

"Lying?" They're the ones who told everyone. They don't own ICONIC COMICS. The guy who runs that Texas Comic Con owns it. He's a back up dancer for Vanilla Ice, that's how they got Vanilla Ice in their comics. Looks like a big investor covering everything, a guy named Huang and his wife, plus others.

I don't know all of the details, because it isn't my business. I assumed it was their company too. They told me it wasn't.

 

[Newman's Own]

Some one sounds more like a full time comic creator.....and it isn't you

To be fair, Ethan has just completed the inks on his second book and all 73 pages only took him like 130 weeks so it's not like he hasn't been pecking away at it.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

"Lying?" They're the ones who told everyone. They don't own ICONIC COMICS. The guy who runs that Texas Comic Con owns it. He's a back up dancer for Vanilla Ice, that's how they got Vanilla Ice in their comics. Looks like a big investor covering everything, a guy named Huang and his wife, plus others.

I don't know all of the details, because it isn't my business. I assumed it was their company too. They told me it wasn't.

I mean you are claiming what they have stated publicly is a lie. (Tim and Doug both stated they put up the initial money to get the product produced)

But you don't have any proof ....its weird how you are making claims up and making weirdly uncharitable claims about what Doug told you to defend Mitch.....a man who lied about the movement you are the purported leader of.

Why are you covering for Mitch?