#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[FROG]

This angstyness is unbecoming of you. You know this is bullshit and that pretty much everyone here is in agreement with the current theory that Doug did a gayop with Hut. Stop being dramatic. Also, just because Doug did the Hut gayop doesnt automatically mean he did the Breitweiser one.

There is no angst being expressed here, I'm explaining why I dropped out of the conversation. Obvious inferences aren't being drawn here, there is a demand for direct, irrefutable evidence, and I respect that.

The Doug/Hut Gay Op doesn't "automatically" mean he did the Mitch one too. But I believe that he did.

Carry on.

 

[Newman's Own]

None of this makes sense.

Yeah. You keep contradicting your own receipts.

Just show us the text convos Mitch wanted you to show, unless you're protecting him.

Edit:

I want to demonstrate that this is who Doug Ernst is, and this is what he does.

Right now you are demonstrating what you do and who you are.

And that would be a lying faggot caught in his own web of bullshit.

I gotta say, I'm grateful to you that you come here to entertain and enlighten Kiwis.

Thank you Ethan.

 

[The Coon]

Obvious inferences aren't being drawn here, there is a demand for direct, irrefutable evidence, and I respect that.

The Doug/Hut Gay Op doesn't "automatically" mean he did the Mitch one too. But I believe that he did.

Carry on.

Ok, this makes sense and I respect it. In the other response it comes off to me like you think people in here arent really buying the hut gayop by saying that Huts proof was "barely enough" to convince us which isnt really the case for most of us. Also, after watching your YouTube for a couple of years, you can be pretty dramatic at times. Sorry for the misunderstanding, carry on as well.

Sorry to double post but this is different from my last autistic post.
So looks like Hut has broken his silence. He did a 2.5 min video of him talking to himself. Seems like Hut may have either finally gotten his autistic swagger back or suffering a total psychotic break.

I looked at Hut's socialblades and it looks like he has also done some video purging on his channel.

Edit
Looking through his videos, it looks like he took down all the videos about Ya Boi.
Edit Edit:

 

[Rupin]

Sorry to double post but this is different from my last autistic post.
So looks like Hut has broken his silence. He did a 2.5 min video of him talking to himself. Seems like Hut may have either finally gotten his autistic swagger back or suffering a total psychotic break.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7OYES0P_bGsI looked at Hut's socialblades and it looks like he has also done some video purging on his channel.
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I‘m going with the psychotic break.

 

[Analog Devolved]

I asked JDA for a copy of OVERMIND to review and he accepted.

Here's what I saw. Amazing art. He's found a really top notch artist to tell this kind of story. It's not dialog heavy and the art really speaks. Maybe I'm just a fan of old school comics and this brings back the nostalgia with a fresh story.

Story: A+ writing here folks. JDA has learned a lot successfully fulfilling many books it's taught him the ropes from the early days.

Coloring: very vintage. Bright colors, a lot of elaborately colored scenes. I like it.

Lettering: great!

Should you back OVERMIND? Yes. It's a great comic. I enjoyed it and I think you will too.

 

[The Coon]

I asked JDA for a copy of OVERMIND to review and he accepted.

Here's what I saw. Amazing art. He's found a really top notch artist to tell this kind of story. It's not dialog heavy and the art really speaks. Maybe I'm just a fan of old school comics and this brings back the nostalgia with a fresh story.

Story: A+ writing here folks. JDA has learned a lot successfully fulfilling many books it's taught him the ropes from the early days.

Coloring: very vintage. Bright colors, a lot of elaborately colored scenes. I like it.

Lettering: great!

Should you back OVERMIND? Yes. It's a great comic. I enjoyed it and I think you will too.

Looks like @Analog Devolved has been hacked. Seriously though, thats some pretty high praise, and I have been on the fence about getting it. I may wait and get it cheaper on Amazon like I could have with Deus Vult. @COMMI3 MARK also pointed the same thing out in his video in regards to Robotoad.

@TheCosmicWarrior is there a difference between these 2 books? Does the Amazon one not have the stretchgoal with it or something? I am genuinely curious why the backers would pay more for the book than people on Amazon. If you set your books cheaper after the campaign, what is there to keep people from just waiting to get it on Amazon?

 

[TheCosmicWarrior]

Looks like @Analog Devolved has been hacked. Seriously though, thats some pretty high praise, and I have been on the fence about getting it. I may wait and get it cheaper on Amazon like I could have with Deus Vult. @COMMI3 MARK also pointed the same thing out in his video in regards to Robotoad.
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@TheCosmicWarrior is there a difference between these 2 books? Does the Amazon one not have the stretchgoal with it or something? I am genuinely curious why the backers would pay more for the book than people on Amazon. If you set your books cheaper after the campaign, what is there to keep people from just waiting to get it on Amazon?

I'd been trying to see if Amazon would then pump sales and be able to get my general reader market purchasing after crowdfund was fulfilled. Branching out to different markets to see if we can build something bigger is always important.

The backers help me make the project and make sure it's profitable for me and the artist to survive, which used to be the point of crowdfunding in people's minds (and still is for most of my awesome readers who support me). Then it would up for a mass market for people to find and discover over time, is the thought behind Amazon. I offer limited variant covers and hardcovers on all campaigns for those who want something limited.

Unfortunately, Amazon hasn't really moved the needle so future comic releases will not be going on there anymore. Amazon buys them from me at a wholesale price so they price it at whatever they feel like even though I give them the MSRP of $25 like the crowdfund. I can't control their discounting. But because I sell them wholesale the profit margins are like a dollar per book for me so the artist and I really get screwed after print costs. We wouldn't be able to make the books if we just did amazon. They tend to mark it down after the "new book sales window" of 3 months until they run out of stock.

If you want to cheaply check out my old work and see if you like my writing, it's a great deal. The new comics won't be on there going forward because it doesn't make sense. There aren't enough comic readers on there to make a living doing it. With regular book books, on the other hand, the entire market is there and the kindle sales are in the thousands for me, so those will all be Amazon releases. I don't know why they don't translate over to comics. Been trying to figure that out for years.

 

[Alazmat]

I'd been trying to see if Amazon would then pump sales and be able to get my general reader market purchasing after crowdfund was fulfilled. Branching out to different markets to see if we can build something bigger is always important.

The backers help me make the project and make sure it's profitable for me and the artist to survive, which used to be the point of crowdfunding in people's minds (and still is for most of my awesome readers who support me). Then it would up for a mass market for people to find and discover over time, is the thought behind Amazon. I offer limited variant covers and hardcovers on all campaigns for those who want something limited.

Unfortunately, Amazon hasn't really moved the needle so future comic releases will not be going on there anymore. Amazon buys them from me at a wholesale price so they price it at whatever they feel like even though I give them the MSRP of $25 like the crowdfund. I can't control their discounting. But because I sell them wholesale the profit margins are like a dollar per book for me so the artist and I really get screwed after print costs. We wouldn't be able to make the books if we just did amazon. They tend to mark it down after the "new book sales window" of 3 months until they run out of stock.

If you want to cheaply check out my old work and see if you like my writing, it's a great deal. The new comics won't be on there going forward because it doesn't make sense. There aren't enough comic readers on there to make a living doing it. With regular book books, on the other hand, the entire market is there and the kindle sales are in the thousands for me, so those will all be Amazon releases. I don't know why they don't translate over to comics. Been trying to figure that out for years.

you-- you actually got two of the kiwis here to shill your book.

Well played.

 

[TheCosmicWarrior]

you-- you actually got two of the kiwis here to shill your book.

Well played.

Damn. Wasn't even my intention for once. I'm really proud of our work and direction though. Deus Vult and OVERMIND are exactly what comics needs. Heroic storytelling, sense of wonder, regressing harder is the way to take back our culture. We're developing a very intelligent audience who gets the vision and it's really awesome to see it clicking with folk.

The haters saw it too, which is why they tried so hard to cancel this budding movement right as it's blasting off. It just brings more eyeballs to the project. And I know you're all watching this thread.

 

[The Coon]

I'd been trying to see if Amazon would then pump sales and be able to get my general reader market purchasing after crowdfund was fulfilled. Branching out to different markets to see if we can build something bigger is always important.

The backers help me make the project and make sure it's profitable for me and the artist to survive, which used to be the point of crowdfunding in people's minds (and still is for most of my awesome readers who support me). Then it would up for a mass market for people to find and discover over time, is the thought behind Amazon. I offer limited variant covers and hardcovers on all campaigns for those who want something limited.

Unfortunately, Amazon hasn't really moved the needle so future comic releases will not be going on there anymore. Amazon buys them from me at a wholesale price so they price it at whatever they feel like even though I give them the MSRP of $25 like the crowdfund. I can't control their discounting. But because I sell them wholesale the profit margins are like a dollar per book for me so the artist and I really get screwed after print costs. We wouldn't be able to make the books if we just did amazon. They tend to mark it down after the "new book sales window" of 3 months until they run out of stock.

If you want to cheaply check out my old work and see if you like my writing, it's a great deal. The new comics won't be on there going forward because it doesn't make sense. There aren't enough comic readers on there to make a living doing it. With regular book books, on the other hand, the entire market is there and the kindle sales are in the thousands for me, so those will all be Amazon releases. I don't know why they don't translate over to comics. Been trying to figure that out for years.

Oh ok that makes sense. Just trying to get the book in the hands of people who read comics/graphic novels, but have no clue what the hell CG, Anti-CG, Et al. are. That is something I have told a creator or 2 I have talked to in the past. Yea you need to make the rounds on the CG channels, but there is so much crossover that afterward they really need to branch out and find other channels/genres with less crossover and new people not in the CG fray. It kinda seems like @FROG is trying to do the same by making a League of Conservative Pop Culture that has more than just comic people.

I guess I cant blame you for how Amazon prices out your stuff. I just have always thought it was better for creators to mark up the price by at least $5 on the overrun stuff, especially if they are going to sell it on a different platform than Indiegogo or Kickstarter. All the talk around these comic campaigns(and how I see them) has always been more "I'm a business owner and I am selling you my original printing of a book, there may or may not be an opportunity it get it afterward, so you better get it now" than "you are investing in my business venture and if successful your dividend is a copy of said book". Thats why I feel the books should be a little more after the campaign and off the crowdfunding sites. Now when creators are doing vol. 2, and they have a second printing of Vol.1 in a bundle or as an add-on, it should be cheaper($20 instead of $25) because its just a second printing of the book. The exception is if you offer a new cover by a bigger name artist(kinda like the Diaz brothers did with Magic Cop 2 and the vol. 1 reprint with a Kelsey cover). Also, I have always liked what Kung Lee does with Battle Maiden Knuckle Bomb. He does a fancy "prestige" version, then does a campaign after, that is a "standard" version that is cheaper and on newsprint(IIRC). I get the standard, because honestly I dont care about all the bells and whistles, I just want the book.

you-- you actually got two of the kiwis here to shill your book.

Well played.

I have talked on here before on here about backing Deus Vult and A High School Girl In The Crusades. JDA might have missed those post, which is understandable considering most of my post about him are shitting on him. Just because I have a low opinion about JDA, doesnt mean I automatically dismiss his books. I back/buy books I think look good regardless of how I feel about the creator. Hell I think Mark Waid is an absolute worthless and terrible human being, but I am going to order his recent Batman Superman Worlds Finest trade, because it looks good and I have heard good things about it.

 

[Rupin]

What I liked about what JDA did with Deus Vault was that he sent his backers a digital copy of the book to proofread and asked what they liked and didn’t like about the book and to help find any grammar or spelling corrections before the physical copy went to print. I don’t know if he did that with High School Crusader or Overmind but, I wish more creators would involve their customers in the creation process like that.

 

[Alazmat]

What I liked about what JDA did with Deus Vault was that he sent his backers a digital copy of the book to proofread and ask what they liked and didn’t like about the book and to help find any grammar or spelling corrections before the physical copy went to print. I don’t know if he did that with High School Crusader or Overmind but, I wish more creators would involve their customers in the creation process like that.

Duly noted.

 

[TheCosmicWarrior]

Oh ok that makes sense. Just trying to get the book in the hands of people who read comics/graphic novels, but have no clue what the hell CG, Anti-CG, Et al. are. That is something I have told a creator or 2 I have talked to in the past. Yea you need to make the rounds on the CG channels, but there is so much crossover that afterward they really need to branch out and find other channels/genres with less crossover and new people not in the CG fray. It kinda seems like @FROG is trying to do the same by making a League of Conservative Pop Culture that has more than just comic people.

I guess I cant blame you for how Amazon prices out your stuff. I just have always thought it was better for creators to mark up the price by at least $5 on the overrun stuff, especially if they are going to sell it on a different platform than Indiegogo or Kickstarter. All the talk around these comic campaigns(and how I see them) has always been more "I'm a business owner and I am selling you my original printing of a book, there may or may not be an opportunity it get it afterward, so you better get it now" than "you are investing in my business venture and if successful your dividend is a copy of said book". Thats why I feel the books should be a little more after the campaign and off the crowdfunding sites. Now when creators are doing vol. 2, and they have a second printing of Vol.1 in a bundle or as an add-on, it should be cheaper($20 instead of $25) because its just a second printing of the book. The exception is if you offer a new cover by a bigger name artist(kinda like the Diaz brothers did with Magic Cop 2 and the vol. 1 reprint with a Kelsey cover). Also, I have always liked what Kung Lee does with Battle Maiden Knuckle Bomb. He does a fancy "prestige" version, then does a campaign after, that is a "standard" version that is cheaper and on newsprint(IIRC). I get the standard, because honestly I dont care about all the bells and whistles, I just want the book.

I have talked on here before on here about backing Deus Vult and A High School Girl In The Crusades. JDA might have missed those post, which is understandable considering most of my post about him are shitting on him. Just because I have a low opinion about JDA, doesnt mean I automatically dismiss his books. I back/buy books I think look good regardless of how I feel about the creator. Hell I think Mark Waid is an absolute worthless and terrible human being, but I am going to order his recent Batman Superman Worlds Finest trade, because it looks good and I have heard good things about it.

Yeah, expanding to different audiences is super important to do. I try a lot of different things, some work, some don't. I just don't drone on endlessly about production and marketing on streams or videos because that's boring for the audience there. I've watched Clint Stoker go from making fun, topical videos everyone wants to watch to those that no one's watching, Try things, repeat what works, abandon what doesn't. It's business.

It's interesting to see the comic perspective about pricing cuz in the book-book market no one thinks about that at all they just want the book for the sake of the story. I come from regular first, so the collectibility concept is a little foreign to me. I see comic customers value that so I'm working on making that more a part of the comic plan going forward.

I appreciate your consideration of the books and that you're a backer. Constructive feedback like this is invaluable.

What I liked about what JDA did with Deus Vault was that he sent his backers a digital copy of the book to proofread and asked what they liked and didn’t like about the book and to help find any grammar or spelling corrections before the physical copy went to print. I don’t know if he did that with High School Crusader or Overmind but, I wish more creators would involve their customers in the creation process like that.

I always do this. Cuts down on print errors and helps me to refine the story of a book 2 or whatnot based on what the actual readers like. The point is to cater toward you. Glad people like it!

 

[Alazmat]

I always do this. Cuts down on print errors and helps me to refine the story of a book 2 or whatnot based on what the actual readers like. The point is to cater toward you. Glad people like it!

This is an excellent idea! I think I'm gonna do this for Clockpeople.

 

[A nameless trool]

Damn. Wasn't even my intention for once. I'm really proud of our work and direction though. Deus Vult and OVERMIND are exactly what comics needs. Heroic storytelling, sense of wonder, regressing harder is the way to take back our culture. We're developing a very intelligent audience who gets the vision and it's really awesome to see it clicking with folk.

The haters saw it too, which is why they tried so hard to cancel this budding movement right as it's blasting off. It just brings more eyeballs to the project. And I know you're all watching this thread.

It is a sad day when I have to accept that JDA is right, but he is right on this...

 

[Rupin]

Yeah, expanding to different audiences is super important to do. I try a lot of different things, some work, some don't. I just don't drone on endlessly about production and marketing on streams or videos because that's boring for the audience there. I've watched Clint Stoker go from making fun, topical videos everyone wants to watch to those that no one's watching, Try things, repeat what works, abandon what doesn't. It's business.

It's interesting to see the comic perspective about pricing cuz in the book-book market no one thinks about that at all they just want the book for the sake of the story. I come from regular first, so the collectibility concept is a little foreign to me. I see comic customers value that so I'm working on making that more a part of the comic plan going forward.

I appreciate your consideration of the books and that you're a backer. Constructive feedback like this is invaluable.



I always do this. Cuts down on print errors and helps me to refine the story of a book 2 or whatnot based on what the actual readers like. The point is to cater toward you. Glad people like it!

I bought Rekt Manlet too, I don’t remember you doing that with that book. It was awhile ago so I probably forgot if you did.

 

[Captain Manning]

A funny story in picture format:

 

[Rupin]

Hut says he is going to rebrand his channel (supposedly).

He did post a bizarre video earlier today which consisted of him talking to himself using funny voices. He took a jab at homeless Richard and told us about how Doug tried to call him but he had him blocked.
Damn I wish I archived that one as it was taken down pretty quickly.
This last video is kind of boring by comparison.

 

[The Coon]

Hut says he is going to rebrand his channel (supposedly).

He did post a bizarre video earlier today which consisted of him talking to himself using funny voices. He took a jab at homeless Richard and told us about how Doug tried to call him but he had him blocked.
Damn I wish I archived that one as it was taken down pretty quickly.
This last video is kind of boring by compariso.



https://youtube.com/watch?v=exqKxFqhOtk

Yeah I kinda dropped the ball on that one too. I was thinking about archiving it, but didn't think he would take it down that fast.

 

[Spill Beans]

Cummings did something right.