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But look, Eric July learned from what we're doing. He saw our mistakes and saw the stuff that worked and went from there.

People are starting to see they can do this on their own, which is great.

I have to agree. Credit that July has taken a tremendous risk if he actually invested $200K before knowing how much he was actually going to make in return, plus the work it must be to set everything up from organization to content creation before launching. However, he is also threading a path that has been already mapped. I wonder if Eric would have launched anything back in 2017 if he had the money and the Rippaverse already in his head.

Then again, despite Rippa's extreme self-confidence and no-nonsense facade; and despite all the kuddos and hopes to own SJWs, the Big Two and CG,July has delivered nothing until August, so we'll see.
 
I have to agree. Credit that July has taken a tremendous risk if he actually invested $200K before knowing how much he was actually going to make in return, plus the work it must be to set everything up from organization to content creation before launching. However, he is also threading a path that has been already mapped. I wonder if Eric would have launched anything back in 2017 if he had the money and the Rippaverse already in his head.

Then again, despite Rippa's extreme self-confidence and no-nonsense facade; and despite all the kuddos and hopes to own SJWs, the Big Two and CG,July has delivered nothing until August, so we'll see.

He'll deliver just fine, but he's going to have to hire a huge staff, possible 25 or more full time warehouse employees.

He's going to sell more than 100,000 copies of ISOM #1...this is why the Direct Market exists. Hand fulfilling numbers like that just isn't efficient for small creators. But I'm sure he'll find a way!
 
Gary is forced to respectfully nod and seethe internally.
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Edit: first mention occurs at aprox 24:30. A few other EVS shout-outs sprinkled throughout amidst 5+ hours of FNT retards pretending Rippa just invented indie media and solved race relations in one fell swoop.
I saw that. And this sort of thing will never not make laugh at Mister "doesn't do drama" Nerdrotic.

If I were ever to go on the show (which would never happen, of course) I'd pretend complete ignorance of the nerd circle jerk and praise both Doomcock and WorldClass Bullshitters.
 
I saw that. And this sort of thing will never not make laugh at Mister "doesn't do drama" Nerdrotic.

If I were ever to go on the show (which would never happen, of course) I'd pretend complete ignorance of the nerd circle jerk and praise both Doomcock and WorldClass Bullshitters.
I am out of the loop was does Gary hate @FROG and is there a split between Doomcock and Bullshitters?
 
I am out of the loop was does Gary hate @FROG

Y'know, my brain is such an overflowing toilet these days I barely remember the drama around all of this. I think the split started with @FROG correctly pointing out that YouTube channels that do nothing but consummmm Woke content, even if they're criticizing it, are basically useless when it comes to fostering any sort of change in Hollywoke. But I think it was him making fun of the train wreck that was the Zack Synder livestream with Geeks and Gamers than sealed the deal.

Oddly, Jeremy from Geeks and Gamers seems to have shrugged this off from what I've seen, even admitting he didn't handle that livestream correctly. He seems to not bear grudges like Nerdrotic does, though I could be wrong.

and is there a split between Doomcock and Bullshitters?

No, just that Nerdrotic has disowned both. Ryan Kinel (correctly) pointed out that Doomcock has never gotten any of his wild ass predictions correct on a livestream. He then went quite a bit beyond that into a lot of personal insults, basically called him a scam artist. And Gary did nothing, said nothing, basically agreeing with Kinel and throwing his long time collaborator -- they even used to do a livestream together on (I think) Sunday nights on paranormal crap -- under the bus. But that was the end of that.

The WorldClassBullshiters business is such a soap opera I won't even pretend to be able to name the full cast of characters. IIRC professonal hambeast Mecharandom42 accused somebody on Midnight's Edge of inapporopriate sexual something or other. One of her best internet buddies is that gal who's name I can't even remember, but she looks like a pug with a blond buzzcut. (Jessi something?) Anyhoo that gal stood with Mecha, and she happens to be WorldClassBS's girlfriend, though I'm not even sure they're still together. In any event WorldClassBS sided with them, Nerdrotic with Midnight's Edge.

The finale here was a huge blow up at some stupid Las Vegas Star Trek convention or other where the WorldClassBS people showed up to a get together uninvited. Apparently Mrs. Nerdrotic also got involved, lots of shrieking and demanding they leave Naaaooowwww. The end.

BTW, since I'm thinking of Nerdrotic, it just dawned on me I've not seen his biggest paypiggie mentioned in months. Geeoorrrggggeeeee, where are you? Hopefully didn't give his last shekels to Gary and is now living under a highway underpass.
 
I am out of the loop was does Gary hate @FROG and is there a split between Doomcock and Bullshitters?

There's no split between Doomcock and WCB that I know of.

Gary is mad at me because after the Zack Snyder fiasco, I ate a bag of edibles on a livestream and said that Friday Night Tights was full of "zeroes orbiting Gary and Jeremy for clout."

Az was angry and demanded an apology. I apologized on my livestream. He demanded I send him a personal apology via email in a rant on FNT that said, "I'll stand by my friends, nobody calls them zeroes" etc etc.


I was baffled by his refusal to accept my public apology, and apologized again, saying that I don't have his email or any other way to contact him.

Az, again, refused to accept my second apology, saying, "He's apologizing to his audience, NOT TO ME." And he went on to say that as long as things weren't right between us, he wouldn't help promote my Action Figure campaign. Fuck that.

Gary nodded that he agreed with all of this, and I've been shut out of communication with almost all of FNT.

I can't really make things right with Gary or Az because it'll be perceived that I'm only doing it because I want their promotion, rather than their fellowship. I've decided I don't like them very much.
 
Holy shit, July brought Smug Freiza out of hiding. Although...

Credit to Rippa for building his platform first and then releasing his product, as opposed to just turning up with his hat in his hand to various shill streams with something to sell. It looks like his book is the most successful crowdfunded comic now that it's blown well past the $1.4m BRZRKR raised on kickstarter from 14K+ backers.

@YoungRippa59 congratulations on doing it the right way.

I'm still a bit weirded out by the fact that [product] doesn't seem to matter at all, even to kiwis in this thread, just so long as he shovels vast quantities of it. He might as well be selling $2M worth of toothpaste with a mystery flavor is it truffles, or pigshit? based solely on the premise that he's a non-woke black man on youtube.

I think Ethan is more a surf and turf kind of guy, but personally I have no interest in meeting him at all. You don't need to project your homosexual attractions to @FROG on others - its kind of gay.

Hurrr! i KnoW yOu ARe, bUT WhAT aM I?

Your unruffled cope would be more believable if you hadn't come in here, biting the carpet over 'a-logs' who committed the unthinkable crime of 'underestimating the kind of captivity that culture war consoomers will place themselves in'. It still makes you so fucking angry that some people thought Rekt Planet would take a hit what, after extremely late books and gay internet drama? How?!? and I have to speculate why.

Then again, despite Rippa's extreme self-confidence and no-nonsense facade; and despite all the kuddos and hopes to own SJWs, the Big Two and CG,July has delivered nothing until August, so we'll see.

This. Is Schrodingers anarchist a boss, or a flop? We still have to open the lootcrate to find out.
 
I'm still a bit weirded out by the fact that [product] doesn't seem to matter at all, even to kiwis in this thread,
The cycle has so far been
>he’s not going to do it
>he’s doing it but it will fail
>it’s not failed but it won’t do well
> it’s done great but it won’t deliver but even if it does it will be shit

Considering he’s beaten everyone’s concerns so far, why would you be weirded out that people are confidant in it?

The product does matter. We’ve been going for pages over if it will be good.
just so long as he shovels vast quantities of it.
People were saying he wouldn’t manage it…
He might as well be selling $2M worth of toothpaste with a mystery flavor is it truffles, or pigshit?
Yes but he isn’t. We know exactly what he is selling. This is not the first time he has sold or marketed a product.
This. Is Schrodingers anarchist a boss, or a flop? We still have to open the lootcrate to find out.
Welcome to every product ever.
 
BTW, since I'm thinking of Nerdrotic, it just dawned on me I've not seen his biggest paypiggie mentioned in months. Geeoorrrggggeeeee, where are you? Hopefully didn't give his last shekels to Gary and is now living under a highway underpass.
I think George stopped coming around after that incident during the Alex Jones appearance on FNT when Gary didn't read George's superchat so George kept sending more and more superchats with increasingly large amounts of money telling Gary to fuck off and that he'd never send them another dime. I think the last one was like $8000 or something.

Someone here posted a pretty funny video of the situation but I don't remember when or who.

EDIT: Found it

 
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I think George stopped coming around after that incident during the Alex Jones appearance on FNT when Gary didn't read George's superchat so George kept sending more and more superchats with increasingly large amounts of money telling Gary to fuck off and that he'd never send them another dime. I think the last one was like $8000 or something.

Someone here posted a pretty funny video of the situation but I don't remember when or who.

EDIT: Found it

What the fuck? Are those real? The livechat reply is disabled on the Alex Jones FNT video and there's not a mention of George in the comments I Ctrl+F'd through.
 
The quality depends sometimes. Berserk was coming out bi-weekly for 20 years and the art there is better than anything in CG and pretty much most stuff in mainstream.
The manga artists are just different and take their job very serious, cause sales/popularity can go down and you need to make new stuff up. Exception are of course HunterXHunter and Berserk, who are huge and the artists can/could get a long break and still come back and continue the series.
I also already commented this, but Evs saying Akira Toriyama is an amateur was one of the most retarded things i ever heard. You really need to be stupid to call someone that was producing at least 15 pages every week for 15 years an amateur. Ohh and all of that with just one assistant that was working just 2 days per week. And while producing the manga, also working on designs for games like Dragon Quest and Chrono Trigger... This can't compare to anything in american comics.
So yea, its much better to throw money at manga, which also has good stories, than wait for a 50 page book that an artist needs 4 years to draw. Id say thats a real amateur.
I actually got to read the entire DBZ manga online and what kept me coming back was how strong his style was in the comic book panel format. The line work is incredible and a much better effort than what the vast majority of american pros were doing at that time. I'd argue that reading the manga was a lot more enjoyable than watching the show because all the action was condensed and the story flowed better than the cartoon which often had to place hours of filler episodes and overextended combat sequences to artificially extend the content.

Ethan casting aspersions at Akira's art style simply due to the faces or some dumb shit on the cartoon would be akin to criticizing Jim Lee X-Men comics based off the 90s cartoon.

Gary is mad at me because after the Zack Snyder fiasco, I ate a bag of edibles on a livestream and said that Friday Night Tights was full of "zeroes orbiting Gary and Jeremy for clout."

Az was angry and demanded an apology. I apologized on my livestream. He demanded I send him a personal apology via email in a rant on FNT that said, "I'll stand by my friends, nobody calls them zeroes" etc etc.


I was baffled...
The only things worth less than your promises, Froggo, are your apologies. You ate a bag of edibles? Now you eat a bag of dicks, simple as. Your apology was completely conditional upon his acceptance of it, but keep framing it as an unjust rejection as if anyone really buys that shit around here lol. Az is a spaz, but Frog is a gaylord so it evens out.

Holy shit, July brought Smug Freiza out of hiding. Although...

I'm still a bit weirded out by the fact that [product] doesn't seem to matter at all, even to kiwis in this thread, just so long as he shovels vast quantities of it. He might as well be selling $2M worth of toothpaste with a mystery flavor is it truffles, or pigshit? based solely on the premise that he's a non-woke black man on youtube.
Oh it matters for sure. One look at that cross just above the crotch design tells me the hype won't last that long. Eric's campaign is more akin to Keanu's campaign than it is to the rest of CG because it's based upon an already established notoriety that is seeking to cash out in other lesser venues.
 
What the fuck? Are those real? The livechat reply is disabled on the Alex Jones FNT video and there's not a mention of George in the comments I Ctrl+F'd through.
They probably are. He gave an insane amount of money to Nerdrotic week after week.
Oddly, what I assume is his YouTube channel is still active. (Last posted to three days ago.) With the same sort of rehashed anti-SJW stuff as a million others. Seen on the first video on the channel:

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edit: And much to my surprise his video on the Amazon LotR Rings of Prime trailer was pretty solid as to content. With much higher production values than you would typically see on a channel this size.
 
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I actually got to read the entire DBZ manga online and what kept me coming back was how strong his style was in the comic book panel format. The line work is incredible and a much better effort than what the vast majority of american pros were doing at that time. I'd argue that reading the manga was a lot more enjoyable than watching the show because all the action was condensed and the story flowed better than the cartoon which often had to place hours of filler episodes and overextended combat sequences to artificially extend the content.
For as poorly planned as Dragon Ball's story is, to the point that Toriyama's coworkers would give him shit over it, the art is full of life and movement; I can scarcely think of a bad panel. Today I was reading some older stuff like Cyborg 009, and yeah, you can very clearly see the clean line of flow that's evident in Dragon Ball, which makes sense given Toriyama grew up on 60s manga. 009's art almost borders on being too simple, but it works very well for lines of rhythm/action with the pacing and layouts. Similarly, It seems to me like capeshit art in the late 60s and early 70s had the best flow. Your average mod Wonder Woman issue has more charisma in it than whatever's being churned out now usually. For better or worse, the late 80s is when a lot of grungier more avant-garde styled art started to become popular, which would usually end up in a few years on the newly founded Vertigo in the early 90s (e.g. The Sandman). I recall Wonder Woman's 3rd volume reboot for post-crisis around that time having some nice layouts for the first arc dealing with Ares, but generally I think a lot of what came about in the 90s for DC was pretty trashy and ugly (esp for Action Comics and TEC titles). Occasionally within the past 13 years or so, you get these stunning looking books, like Batwoman Elegy, but by the end of the 4th volume and onward it ends up looking like an amateur was hired. The same thing happened to Lucifer too.

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Nice meme 😂 he did this in MS paint because he can't afford a free photoshop knock off

Ethan released a fully colored image from Cyborgfrog 2 and apparently nobody explained to Kyle how reflections work. The reflections in Cyborgfrog's shoulder and chest plate are the most mindboggling and distracting coloring choices I've ever seen in a comic.

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Its the reflection perspective coming of @ethanvansciver 's rapidly receding head
 
For as poorly planned as Dragon Ball's story is, to the point that Toriyama's coworkers would give him shit over it, the art is full of life and movement; I can scarcely think of a bad panel. Today I was reading some older stuff like Cyborg 009, and yeah, you can very clearly see the clean line of flow that's evident in Dragon Ball, which makes sense given Toriyama grew up on 60s manga. 009's art almost borders on being too simple, but it works very well for lines of rhythm/action with the pacing and layouts. Similarly, It seems to me like capeshit art in the late 60s and early 70s had the best flow. Your average mod Wonder Woman issue has more charisma in it than whatever's being churned out now usually. For better or worse, the late 80s is when a lot of grungier more avant-garde styled art started to become popular, which would usually end up in a few years on the newly founded Vertigo in the early 90s (e.g. The Sandman). I recall Wonder Woman's 3rd volume reboot for post-crisis around that time having some nice layouts for the first arc dealing with Ares, but generally I think a lot of what came about in the 90s for DC was pretty trashy and ugly (esp for Action Comics and TEC titles). Occasionally within the past 13 years or so, you get these stunning looking books, like Batwoman Elegy, but by the end of the 4th volume and onward it ends up looking like an amateur was hired. The same thing happened to Lucifer too.

The only drawback that manga has opposed to American comics is that they're only in black and white but recently they've been coming out with colorize editions of them recently and look pretty damn good. I remember buying the first edition of Shonen Jump when it came out here in the States, I was little back then and I thought that it was a coloring book and try to fill in some of the panels in with crayons.
 
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I think George stopped coming around after that incident during the Alex Jones appearance on FNT when Gary didn't read George's superchat so George kept sending more and more superchats with increasingly large amounts of money telling Gary to fuck off and that he'd never send them another dime. I think the last one was like $8000 or something.

Someone here posted a pretty funny video of the situation but I don't remember when or who.

EDIT: Found it

Poor George got cucked harder than a tier 3 pokimane simp. At least he'll stop pissing away money at those fools now.
 
There's no split between Doomcock and WCB that I know of.

Gary is mad at me because after the Zack Snyder fiasco, I ate a bag of edibles on a livestream and said that Friday Night Tights was full of "zeroes orbiting Gary and Jeremy for clout."

Az was angry and demanded an apology. I apologized on my livestream. He demanded I send him a personal apology via email in a rant on FNT that said, "I'll stand by my friends, nobody calls them zeroes" etc etc.


I was baffled by his refusal to accept my public apology, and apologized again, saying that I don't have his email or any other way to contact him.

Az, again, refused to accept my second apology, saying, "He's apologizing to his audience, NOT TO ME." And he went on to say that as long as things weren't right between us, he wouldn't help promote my Action Figure campaign. Fuck that.

Gary nodded that he agreed with all of this, and I've been shut out of communication with almost all of FNT.

I can't really make things right with Gary or Az because it'll be perceived that I'm only doing it because I want their promotion, rather than their fellowship. I've decided I don't like them very much.
I thought you all graduated high school. That is some 90210 levels of retarded bullshit. Sometimes I think YouTube is a worse invention than Tiktok.

To be fair, that fat limey is quite a drama queen.
 
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