#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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Anti-CG did used to actually mean something. It was mainly used by people that were actually defending the dog shit comics that were being made by Marvel and DC at the time. Mostly people that were defending the creators or were just basically access media shills.

Admittedly, it very quickly became used by the crackhead that wants to emulate his abusive piece of shit father, but it did have something resembling a meaning back then.

Nowadays basically anyone looking at Ethan would be anti, specifically because It's pretty fucking gay psychotic and retarded to be obsessively angry about a guy for showing you up and only talking about said guy.
 
William Bludworth said:
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Those doomer uncs are so soo stoopid because they don't like product. All product today is good and popular and you must like product.

Richard loves Lanterns for some reason and he is obsessed about talking about it right now.
Odyssey was successful which means that it was good.
Spider-man was successful which means that the uncs should have hated it but the dumb uncs refused to hate it.
The new Ghost in the Shell is the bestest anime adaptation ever
GTA6 is a great game because its popular
The Doomer uncs should be supporting Gun and DC movies because they were happy when he was signed to do them.
Richard is excited about clayface and street fighter
People don't have any right to be critical of slop. Especially if its popular.
The right can't make art because you can't make art if you hate art and mainstream popular culture product is art.


Richard takes a victory lap today because everything is good now and the doomer unc are dumb old men for not loving all the good stuff out there.
 
Strix454 said:
The new Ghost in the Shell is the bestest anime adaptation ever
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Aside from Ranting for Vengeance(a literal teenager/Early 20 something) I haven't heard anyone argue that the new Ghost in the shell was bad, even his audience had to correct him on its accuracy to the original manga.
Also Dick. I thought you hated anime and therefore manga.
 

WOLVERINE #26- If EVERYONE Is Saying It's TERRIBLE Then It MUST Be Bad...RIGHT?​

Transcript:
Hi everyone, so Saladin Ahmed's run on Wolverine, I've never heard a good, anyone say anything good about it, not even once. And I've got to say, as I've done, you know, I kind of, okay, I guess that's true, if everyone's saying it's terrible, it must be bad, right? Well wrong. Once again, not for like any like culture war stuff, more of like, just kind of like a peer pressure thing.

There's trends in comics, there'll be a while there where it's like, you don't like AlanMoore?Alan Moore's so good, why don't you like Alan Moore?Everything's so, oh, Alan Moore, Alan Moore, Alan Moore, you're like, I don't know, I don'treally like him that much.Now you're absolutely encouraged to hate him, but when I first got into comics, you hadto, you know, oh my gosh, when Dan Dreiberg had erectile dysfunction in Watchmen, wasn'tthat amazing?It's like, it doesn't sound that great actually.But just a little sidebar here, can we just take a moment to appreciate that Wolverine'snostrils are two different shapes, as all people's nostrils are?That's one of those little uncanny valley things that artists do, they always giveeveryone the same shaped nostrils.

So anyway, this storyline got some press when it came out, Wolverine's, well, one of hishands, this, I will say, this wasn't portrayed that much, I'm sure it was explained in aprevious issue, but just jumping into this storyline, they didn't make it clear thatone hand lost the adamantium, and the claws can get, the bone claws can get broken andregrow.The other hand still has the adamantium.But I've heard nothing good about this, I've heard it's terrible, I haven't heard it'swoke, but it's just bad, it's so bad, it's so bad, and it's good.

There's just trends, you know, I've talked about these kind of Kali Yuga cycles of, there'sfive years of everyone loving Alan Moore or Rob Liefeld, there's five years, followedby five years of everyone hating him, followed by five years of nobody talking about themat all.And there's also these trends like, oh, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta like Chip Zdarsky,and now it's the opposite, you gotta hate him.And I will, I think he's doing a good job on Captain America, Avengers, Armageddon, completelyflamed out, which is kind of putting a Paul, P-A-L-L, on the Avengers book, which I thinkstarts this month, next month, next month, I think.

There's so much out there, there are so many good things out there that it's destroyedmy ability to criticize them because I just don't have time.I go from comic to video game to movie to streaming show, I revisit things I was scaredaway from, I'm currently revisiting something I scared myself away from, which is the SplinterCell anime from a year or two ago.And then I'm learning about Conan the Barbarian, accurately, for the first time, and you allare right, he's not a caveman, I always thought he was a caveman, I just, no, he's basicallyWolverine, also he's weirdly feminist, and I'm talking about the original text.

But anyway, so, this storyline, I read this one, and I was like, you know, I've heardnothing but bad stuff, and this was pretty good, and then I read the next one, and thenI just read three of them yesterday, which is not usual for me, I usually don't havethe concentration or really like something enough, but it was in that classic, I usedto call them Saturday afternoon comics, you know, whatever is new comic book day, usuallyI would go home and read the new comics.And then on Saturday I would just kind of revisit, it wouldn't be like the great ones,it would just be like six David Michelini, Mark Bagley, Amazing Spider-Man comics, butnot six consecutive ones, because I didn't have every issue, it was just like, oh, that'spretty good, or I got them out of a quarter bin, but this is just damn good, it's likejust a straight up adventure hero comic.Perch had a letter writer, one of the good ones, and he's basically saying like, hey,I'm trying to get into the X-Men, but I tried it, I haven't really liked it, how would Iget into it, and he was, you know, recommending, and I was just like, just get into it, justwhatever is out, read that.

And I wouldn't say the X-Men team books are great, but the Solo series are actually prettygood, and the mini-series, Solo mini-series are even better.So I like this kind of regressed look to Logan's face.But I was just, you know, first of all, you know, just basic thing, like this is justa cool villain design.

It's this scientist who's trying to save his wife, trying to get a healing factor fromWolverine.Yes, that's been done before, but lots of things have been.I just really like, this one, just on the pure hero fighting villain, who's actuallykind of anti-hero, really great art.

I'm still getting adjusted to this, the digital sound effects, so it's, for people who don'tknow, you buy a pack of these, they'll be kind of, you know, just straight, but youcan grab the corners and skew them as you will.I think, I mean, I was even thinking about this when I was reading this, it's like youcan't see sound, so it kind of makes sense that you would be able to see through thesound effects.And I was enjoying this just on a level of, oh, the bandages kind of look cool, I don'tknow.

I'm sorry, I liked something.I'll try to do better.It's always such a problem when you like things.

Well, only in certain spaces.Only in certain spaces.I think the absolute desperation to hate lanterns is really helping everyone realize, like, oh,these guys just hate things.

Wait, can I like things?Is that alright?So this one I just liked on just a very simple, like, this is a cool villain design.And Wolverine has a diminished healing factor right here.One of his hands' claws is kind of messed up.

I don't know why he's got, is this Hawkeye's old Sky Cycle or something like that?But it was fun.And then we get to meet Alpha Flight, the current version that I don't know that well, whichleads into, wait, what's this?This is all in one issue?Damn, a lot of shit happened in this issue.Freaking Mount St. Helens erupting.

And then what is this?Is this a preview for another comic?Yeah.What is this a preview for?Yeah, this was the last page.I didn't read this.

I don't usually read backup stories.I don't know what's the deal with that.So I just skipped to the next one.

Bad Medicine.I posted this and someone said, Wolverine in downtown Seattle.But we get to the second part of the storyline with that Transformers guy.

And this art is just really, really good.There's a lot of nice interactions between Wolverine and Alpha Flight.Half of the team are his old teammates, the other half aren't.

One of whom, the new Vindicator, he has a lot of problems with.I just want to stop and point out that there was a time when people knew what the backof Wolverine's mask looked like.And those days are over.

Every artist is just winging it right now.They do not know.This scoop actually went in the back as well, just at a different angle.

But I just love stuff like this.Wolverine is not invincible.He still has to deal with his things.

This Vindicator is a real prick.But weirdly enough, kind of doing her job.Kind of reminds me, there's like a trope in The Sopranos where they'll present peoplelike, what was that, Richie Abreu?It's like, he's such a prick.

He's such an asshole.He's like the only one following the rules of your subculture.Like the only one.

And you're acting like he's just completely off the ranch.So Wolverine is basically told to get on board with the very patriotic Canadian Vindicator.And again, just him next to a volcano fighting this cyborg.

And you know, he's dealing with some other shit.I was like, this is freaking awesome.I love the...Although I do have to say something.

And I noticed it in the clips from the Wolverine video game.There are other things in the human body besides skin and muscle.Like, there's never fascia.

There's never fat.It's always just...Okay, so you just got skin.Just a thin layer of skin and just muscle.

There's nothing else.Yeah, just draw some...There's also a debate on Wolverine looking too long.Long? Young?But with the healing factor, should he constantly look like he's 50 years old?Like he's usually portrayed?I guess you could say it's healing factor is not as strong as it used to be.

Also, is aging an injury?Would that be healed?I don't think so.But yeah, so I really liked Wolverine fighting this bad guy in armor next to a volcano.It was a lot of fun.

I like the way he shades...The artist shades the cowl.Is this a hug?Or...No, this is not a hug.It's hug adjacent.

But he's basically kinda...It's this weird push-pull where he's like,Push me in before I heal.And then...But he doesn't want to do that because he's a hero.Oh, getting back to the thing the reader asked to perch.

I actually don't agree with the go find the best stories in history.I think that's supplemental.I think find what you like right now and build from there.

Because this is your Wolverine.If you just got into Wolverine,Wolverine is...He's got one hand of adamantium claws, one hand of bone claws.This is your Wolverine.

This is your standard.And you're gonna build from there.So that's my advice.

And...She's a real...Real prick.But you can't really argue anything she's saying.Let's get to the next...Oh, we got the preview for...I'm gonna give it a try.

I mean, the main problem with the Avengers Armageddon is just the concept is so tired.And the thing about editors is editors are really just hires and fires these days.They don't really come up with ideas.

Marketing will tell them do this and then the editor will just hire someone to do that.So...I never liked the idea of Avengers Armageddon.I will definitely check out...The Avengers, especially if...Chicheto is drawing it.

Although I don't read backups, so I didn't read this.And I didn't read this.And this one has a different artist, Ota.

And I like the artists of the last two issues.But I really like this one, Julius Ota.I believe this is the first comic I've read from him.

So we get classic interactions with...Nightcrawler and Wolverine.I always like this.This is at Haven House, not at the Xavier Mansion.

But there's something I really like about Wolverine.He's this 200-year-old guy who's still finding himself.Which I think...Especially as I get older, it's like...At one point, you're just gonna be you.

It's like, no.There's always gonna be...You're always gonna be growing, hopefully.There's a great line from Denny O'Neil's The Question.

Where Vic Sage was talking to...I believe it was Richard Dragon.It might have been Tot.Aristotle Tot Rodore.

And he said...He was quoting some Buddhist.I think it was Buddhist.And he's like, most people either are or they're becoming.

And he says to Vic Sage, you are becoming.You're still forming yourself.So there's something kind of endearing about a 200-year-old soldierwho's killed 30,000 men in hand-to-hand combat.

Just figured out life.So at one point, he gets embarrassed because Nightcrawler has a date.He's like, I'll stay here and help you out with your feelings.

No, I'm good.Go fuck your chick.I'll figure them out.

Thanks for the help.So then...Oh, there was a good part that I missed in one of the previous issues.Where Wolverine got his healing factor back.

And he's like, hey, I didn't really want to admit it to myself at the time.But I don't want to die.I'm scared of dying.

That kind of really wasn't on the table when my healing factor is at full strength.But even having diminished, he was like, I don't want to die, man.He's like, I'm 200.

I'm just figuring stuff out.So then he goes to a mystical land of...Referring to a previous story.They're called the Savage Warriors or something like that.

A bunch of heroes who had adamantium claws.Now, I heard people not liking this.I guess it's like the spirit of adamantium or something like that.

Is it kind of dumb?No, it's very dumb.But the rest of it is cool.And so we get to meet this other savage champion.

God, I really like this.We get a little bit of backstory, but not much.I don't like the double page spread with a bunch of lore.

It's just, okay, here's three.Then we get to go see the cool temple.And the understated Wolverine says, fancy castle.

Then a bit of fighting and conflict with him.Realizing that his happiness is battle and that's where he has peace.And what does that say about him?Then this kind of goofball villain, but drawn so freaking cool.

And I was like, all right, let's see what this inflatable man does.So I believe he was inhabited by the spirit of the adamantine.Which is the spirit of adamantium?I don't know.

I'll go back and check it out.But anyway, I would say don't listen to anyone who says it's terrible.I think they're not reading it or they're just bandwagoning.

Well, I was going to say, currently we have to hate Selenine Achmed.There was never a time where you had to like him.Especially with Daredevil.

I didn't like the angle where they made Matt Murdock a priest.But I dipped out and then I dipped back in towards the end of that run.And that was a good run.

It was fun.One of the things I really like about this period in comicsis people who were probably diversity hiresor there was some percentage of them like Steve Orlando and Selenine Achmed.Nobody really cares about that.

So now it feels like the pressure...Steve Orlando doesn't have to be like,I'm the gay writer, who writes gay stuff?He's like, what if I just wrote X-Men Outback and it was a cool adventure?That last episode, was it issue 2?That was excellent.And Selenine Achmed doesn't have to be the, I'm the Muslim guy.These guys, when they started reading comics,they were just guys who liked superhero comics.

And then they had to become the DEI poster boy.And now it's just like, oh wait, you guys actually did like comics.And you're writing a lot better now that you're not being held to this weird standard.

So just cool stuff like this.Wolverine and red hair taking down the inflatable man.That's some damn good art.

That is some damn good art.This one.So the adamantium, which is gold for some reason,forms itself into a sword.

And Wolverine said, that's one honkin' big sword.It is, actually. It really, really is.

And then it goes and it cuts reality.And please look at the screen.How freaking cool is that?Damn, that's cool.

I also really like the way this guy draws rib cages.Like, that's a damn good rib cage.How many muscles do ribs have?Like a million.

Or a billion, maybe?A lot. A lot of them.I don't think the serratus goes back that far, but who am I to say?Maybe it does.

Great version of a saber-toothed tiger.One of the things I always like in writingis when they mention temperature and scent.Because you don't get that from...It just helps set this in a world.

And then we get one of the many beasts.This one, I guess, doesn't talk.Again, please look at that art.

And I've been keeping track of all the new comicsI read for the last few monthsbecause I've actually been paying for them.I don't get the physical comics.It's like a plenary indulgence.

So I'm not stealing.For a while, there was a couple of Marvel comics.But right now, it's slightly more than 50%.

Don't let anyone tell you thatMarvel doesn't have good books,doesn't have good ongoing series.They absolutely do.You just have to read them and not get scared away.

Or scare yourself away.So, I mean, come on.You got Wolverine in another dimensionwith a saber-toothed tiger.

Or, as they said on Power Rangers,Dabbertooth tiger!That's so cool.I don't even really like thesecaveman-style characters,but that's just damn good art.And then...Come on, man.

A liquid metal adamantium mastodon.Wait, what did it burst through?I guess it just bursted through the trees.Come on, man.

That's fun.That is absolutely fun.Next, Gilded Chaos.

I will read that.I will also go backwards.Not to the beginning of this run,which I believe I tried out.

But I'll just go for the arc before it.Like, find out how he lostthe adamantium in one of his claws.Yeah.

Go check it out.Don't worry about,I wasn't there when the Outback era...I was, it was cool, but this is your era.This is your...One hand doesn't have adamantium.

Nobody knows what's going onon the back of Wolverine's cowl.Literally nobody.They're just guessing.

They're just winging it.They're just out thereon a hope and a prayer,hoping nobody calls them on it.So that's what you think?The back of his cowlis just like nothing?Come on.

Anyway, thanks for watching.Bye.
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HATING FOR A LIVING- DoomTubers Suffer Another BRUTAL Loss In A Year Full Of Constant DEFEATS​

Transcript:
Hi everyone, it's your boy Zach and pray for them. Pray for the DoomTubers. They're having a very rough year and it's just getting worse and worse and worse for them.

Their version of having a terrible year is people liking things and people just keep liking things and things keep getting better and it's it's just so rough. But anyway, so Lantern Season 3 comes out tonight. Very very excited about it, especially after the preview.

Basically they're hinting that Jon Stewart is either Lantern Jesus or is being lied to that he's Lantern Jesus, both of which are very interesting because he displayed some powers that seem to shock and astound even Hal Jordan himself. The best lantern ever according to people who say he's the best Lantern ever. I'm not a Green Lantern expert.

Is there a way to like just point to a story it's like see this this is the story it just feels like something people just say and repeat like he's the best Lantern ever. I like Hal Jordan, well I like this version of Hal Jordan. I've still never forgiven him for the whole parallax thing which I know you say well you know they did a story where they said parallax you know infected his ring and infected his mind so it wasn't his fault.

Nope, fuck that shit. If you're a hero, if you're the titular hero, you fight that shit off. It almost takes hold of you and then it doesn't.

That's that's some supporting cast. That's some co-star shit. That is not main character shit.

The main character figures it out. He fights it off. So no, I don't care.

I just reread the uh the Coast City um those original three uh issues and they were just as bad in the there used to be this thing in fiction where characters would go crazy which means they would start like laughing maniacally and killing people which really isn't a thing um but anyway to get back on track it's been a it's been a horrible year for the DoomTubers. People keep liking things and this is this is not good so you know they had the the horrible embarrassment of predicting the failure of the Odyssey and it's setting records including those in hearing loss. They hoped hoped hoped Spider-Man would underperform then they embarrass themselves again by trying to bandwagon on the success of something they didn't contribute to at all and would have gladly celebrated its failure.

And then Lanterns is generational like this is so um ratings the way they report ratings now is very confusing but Flix Patrol said that the second episode of Lanterns had a higher Flix Patrol score which is based on ratings but it's also kind of based on other shows which is a little weird but suffice it to say the second episode did better uh significantly better i'm assuming because of word of mouth and then GTA 6 came out and the cope i saw well it was funny there wasn't just cope there was pre-cope cope and post-cope reactions one of them was you know a DoomTuber saying like hey don't start predicting the the failure of GTA 6 because it's going to be successful but they're like sad about it and then it's happening it's like see i told you it's being successful and then afterwards it's like okay how do we deal with the success of GTA 6 i don't know you don't have to the way they get bothered when stuff is good is just absolutely it's brutal like i i feel like you don't have a heart if you don't look at these clowns and feel sorry for themselves it just like can you imagine your whole persona is that you're a geek and you and but you hate things for a living um i was just watching a perch video where he was talking about the same subject and he's like you know hating for the wrong reason which obviously implies there's legitimate reasons to hate but i think the the worst reason to hate is because it's your job and your customers expect you to hate things so you gotta desperately comb through all these you know unverified figures to oh you know in Kuala Lumpur um episode two of lanterns actually did slightly what am i what am i i have a big fluffy beard and i cry about disney princess movies for a living and now everything's good what am i supposed to do i burned all my bridges at the pickle factory i can't get that job back like what is that man how did you get here um but yeah it's real rough so the funniest one is that they've pivoted twice in like the last year i did a video like a month or so ago where i pointed out that they were pitting marvel against dc this year but they were rooting for the opposite team they were happy that james gunn's superman beat just said air quotes well actually i just said air quotes with just one hand so i guess the both sides um they were rooting for james gunn a year ago in the you know respect of wanting to beat marvel because they've got an issue with pedro pascal anyway and now they're doing the opposite uh this year oh by the way when does clayface come out october soon i'm excited about it excited about clayface i'm excited about um street fighter um so uh anyway um so their new thing is so first there there's like we don't like woke we don't like woke stuff and that was understandable and they went for like five ten years but then things stopped being woke because they're like but no this is slop so it's actually a quality issue um this is corporate slop you're gonna eat the slop and then it's like stuff kept being good so it wasn't slop and then they're like hollywood is unethical we're protesting it's like did hollywood just become unethical this year why weren't you protesting hollywood for being unethical for the last 10 years so first it's a subjective you know culture war thing we don't like wokeness wokeness pretty much disappears they're like fuck we hate things for a living we're not gonna go just get regular jobs uh uh slop corporate slop then they're like this is actually this stuff's pretty good like it's not slop and then they're like hollywood is unethical you cannot support the mainstream or you're just an unethical bro you pivoted twice in 365 days do you even know what direction you're pointing in anymore uh the funniest thing is i saw one of them tried to hand wave quality he's like well you know they say that these right-wing uh alternatives are bad quality but the mainstream is bad quality too it's like well the mainstream is a lot of things when you put streaming shows and movies and streaming movies and video games and cartoons and comics that's 10 000 things created so yeah some of that stuff isn't good but there's i would say a general level of competence there's also not the feeling that they hate art which is a huge problem if your checks notes i don't feel like doing the screaming thing making art talk about the you know the worst way to hate is for a living the worst way to make art is from hating it and wanting to you know this is my new character not woke gandalf he's not woke is gandalf woke mainstream slop unethical okay okay you guys make dog shit for many reasons but the primary one is because you hate art how are you going to be good at art if you hate it how um so pray for them they're having a rough go of it right now people keep liking things and it's a real problem um but check out uh ghost in the shell uh the new it's currently on blizzard prime there's only one episode left it is the most accurate adaptation of any comic book anime ever weirdly enough that's getting it controversy because um people who flip through ghost in the shell but they don't actually read it are very very angry that it's accurately they're even just going like one chapter equals one episode but um yeah things are good i'm gonna go check out lanterns i'm gonna go check out clay face i'm gonna go check out street fighter join ghost in the shell it's a real problem for them anyway thanks for watching bye
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IceSculptor549 said:
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WOLVERINE #26- If EVERYONE Is Saying It's TERRIBLE Then It MUST Be Bad...RIGHT?​

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Has anyone said this comic is terrible?
Is he reacting to a real opinion or just one he made up in his head?
 
IceSculptor549 said:
, I usually don't havethe concentration or really like something enough, but it was in that classic, I usedto call them Saturday afternoon comics, you know, whatever is new comic book day, usuallyI would go home and read the new comics.
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Just wanted to quote that Dickie by his own words is so retarded and incapable of focusing that he struggles to read catsmackers. Ralph Wiggum from the Simpsons is more literate than him, and it's certainly why his taste in anything is just fucking worthless and why he's so desperately chasing the Peter Pan Syndrome of being hip to the kids.

Shame that his tard outs on anime make them call him a cringey old man who has bad taste. Yes, the tiktok abusing waste-castes who doom scroll have an arguably better attention span than this old bum.
Halloween23 said:
How does he even afford to live now? Does he get gibbs because he was in the military or something?
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He'd have VA benefits to mortgages or rental agreements, and when he hits his sixties he'd have a pension. He also gets free healthcare due to service.

But nah, no gibbs unless he was like that one Australian who was made retarded by an ammo box denting his skull.
 
Life is Hell... said:
Unsurprisingly another figure in the Anti-CG movement got outed as a Sex Pest recently.
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Perfect! Now all he needs is a hat, an ironic laugh, and an ardent desire for superchats to be a true blue CG.

Strix454 said:
There is the perception of what he went through and then there is the reality.

People ended up buying all kinds of comics featuring the compelling story of the Jawbreakers battle against a Giant purple Gorilla.
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If only Mark Waid could have known that the purple gorilla symbolized Dickie's long suppressed bisexual lighting and in just a short few years he would be the Freddie Mercury to Frog's Random Bath House Stranger with AIDs. There was never a need to intefere!
 
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