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Lad.
 
Bell County Texas is home of Killeen, AKA "Kill Each & Every Nigger" and right off post from Fort Hood, Texas. (The area just outside the E Gate was commonly refered to as "The DMZ" and was a complete shit-hole in the early to late 90's)

As a former Marine and Army dipshit, he'll have more cred and more invites than some danger-hair tranny crying on Twitter about mean man says mean things.

I doubt that "Notorious misogynist, racist" will do anything but add more cred.

Source: I lived in Texas for years. Specifically, Killeen, Fort Hood, Lampasas, and CopperassC Cove. So I can say with authority: In the 1990's, those places were goddamn garbage fires.
 
I have an odd feeling that Marvel Studios does not know how to handle Captain Marvel and is leaning heavily on how "woke" the film is. Very few could have predicted how successful Wonder Woman would be and really caught Marvel with their pants down because I think they wanted to have the first successful female-led superhero film and the fact that a woman (Patty Jenkins) directed only bruised their pride even more. Hence the added emphasis on how "progressive" the character Carol Danvers is.

In regards to Infinity War, I suspect that Carol will be something of an awkward fit. The only purpose of mid-credits scene was to set up for Captain Marvel, which--frankly--felt forced. I could be wrong, I often am, but I think that the film will ape a lot of beats from Guardians of the Galaxy (except with 90s nostalgia) and struggle to find an identity beyond the gender of the main character.

They're absolutely trying to crib off Wonder Woman's success (and Justice League's failure) to market Captain Marvel as a "woke" movie. I don't think it'll bomb, but I think it'll be closer to Doctor Strange and Ant-Man in terms of revenue and that'll be enough brand damage considering Ant-Man and the Wasp isn't performing great at the box office. Disney has enough shit on their face after the Star Wars clusterfuck, it's going to affect Captain Marvel if they don't course correct on marketing. I get the feeling Infinity War 2 will be the first "bomb", at least in terms of failing to meet expectations, though.

Since the creatives already admitted Adam Warlock won't be in Infinity War 2, I bet they give his job in the comics to Captain Marvel. Which is going to make the fans completely lose their shit in anger.

I think what may fuck Captain Marvel, if it's not the marketing it's the timing. I've had a fringe theory about this a while.

Marvel Studios originally announced the third Cap movie was Serpent Society, and later played it off as smoke and mirrors to prevent leaks make announcing it as Civil War a surprise. But the thing is, the creatives kept talking about how while they were making Civil War, the deal with Sony hadn't gone through and they had to make two different versions of the script just in case. I think Disney mandated Spider-Man in MCU ASAP to force Sony's hand and cement the deal, so they decided to move forward with Civil War instead of Serpent Society and play the rest of phase 3 by ear.

Captain Marvel was originally supposed to come out right after Infinity War, but then they jammed Spider-Man into phase 3 and replaced Inhumans with Ant-Man and the Wasp, which pushed Captain Marvel out to next year. I don't think that was the plan, and they had to rewrite or storyboard Infinity War to accommodate the phase 3 changes.
 
They're absolutely trying to crib off Wonder Woman's success (and Justice League's failure) to market Captain Marvel as a "woke" movie. I don't think it'll bomb, but I think it'll be closer to Doctor Strange and Ant-Man in terms of revenue and that'll be enough brand damage considering Ant-Man and the Wasp isn't performing great at the box office. Disney has enough shit on their face after the Star Wars clusterfuck, it's going to affect Captain Marvel if they don't course correct on marketing. I get the feeling Infinity War 2 will be the first "bomb", at least in terms of failing to meet expectations, though.

I quietly hope that Shazam! will outperform Captain Marvel. One of the things that really intrigued me was that Marvel Studios has not released a trailer or even a teaser for CM. DC Films surprised me by released a polished trailer for Shazam! at SDCC so shortly after finished production and appear to have some confidence in their product. Granted, Marvel could be biding their time, but I can't help but get an inkling that they know that Captain Marvel will not be as strong a performer as Black Panther.
 
@damian That Renfamous chick is a massive cunt, she's been REEEEEing at EVS for weeks now, i think he only engages her because he gets some jollies by mocking her. She's probably trying to move onto a softer target and have a better chance at getting victim points
 
Marvel Studios originally announced the third Cap movie was Serpent Society, and later played it off as smoke and mirrors to prevent leaks make announcing it as Civil War a surprise. But the thing is, the creatives kept talking about how while they were making Civil War, the deal with Sony hadn't gone through and they had to make two different versions of the script just in case. I think Disney mandated Spider-Man in MCU ASAP to force Sony's hand and cement the deal, so they decided to move forward with Civil War instead of Serpent Society and play the rest of phase 3 by ear.

Captain Marvel was originally supposed to come out right after Infinity War, but then they jammed Spider-Man into phase 3 and replaced Inhumans with Ant-Man and the Wasp, which pushed Captain Marvel out to next year. I don't think that was the plan, and they had to rewrite or storyboard Infinity War to accommodate the phase 3 changes.
I can see how this got derailed. Inhumans tanked hard on TV and honestly just wasn't a draw like Perlmutter thought it'd be, either.

I quietly hope that Shazam! will outperform Captain Marvel. One of the things that really intrigued me was that Marvel Studios has not released a trailer or even a teaser for CM. DC Films surprised me by released a polished trailer for Shazam! at SDCC so shortly after finished production and appear to have some confidence in their product. Granted, Marvel could be biding their time, but I can't help but get an inkling that they know that Captain Marvel will not be as strong a performer as Black Panther.
Sonofabitch, you're right. Where the hell are the CM trailers?

Hoo boy, gonna be a rough patch for the MCU....
 
Sonofabitch, you're right. Where the hell are the CM trailers?

The next International Wamxn's Day is March 8, 2019.
Captain Marvel the movie's release date? March 8, 2019.
My understanding is that this is intentional.
Draw what conclusions you will, but mine was "Oh, boy."

Having said that, I can also see this doing very well if they spend the first half of the movie riffing off of Top Gun and the second half doing the MCU thing. But that release date makes me think somebody is trying make the Wokest movie evarrr. We shall see.
 
The more I hear about people being "harassers" the more I get suspicious about the people making those claims. One look at their twitter profiles will answer lots of questions. Also, do you have toxic fans because maybe you're a toxic person who attracts them? Or are those fans not toxic and you're just looking for someone in close proximity to make a bogeyman out of and blame all your failures on?

SJWs never go after deserving targets. Just convenient ones. Close-by ones, preferably those that can't defend themselves or that there aren't any laws against criticizing. Just people who "seem privileged" regardless of how much collateral harm there is done to the people around them. Never does it occur to SJWs that white people will be an oppressed minority once they're a minority. Or that declaring it's okay to punch people you disagree with makes you the aggressor and instigator attacking the innocent. Or closing the comments and blocking people constantly means you're shutting down discussion and being un-inclusive.

It's a regular occurrence that loud people on social media who constantly bash groups of people on Twitter end up calling someone the usual slew of alt-left insults and the people they're insulting turn out to be monotone-speaking adults who are very reasonable. Meanwhile the so-called peace-loving anti-harassment advocate spews out every hateful, divisive statement they can possibly think of.

I'm just wondering why companies who diversity-hire aren't seeing the irony. If I were to start an entertainment company, I would be checking people's twitters constantly before they were allowed through the door as a test of character. It's like entertainment companies want their employees to be as hateful as possible to make sure they have the most obedient fans.
 
@damian That Renfamous chick is a massive cunt, she's been REEEEEing at EVS for weeks now, i think he only engages her because he gets some jollies by mocking her. She's probably trying to move onto a softer target and have a better chance at getting victim points
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This will always make me Mad on the Internet™. You produce a product in an ongoing IP, you want money and/or fame. Fanboys, your installed customer base, provide you with both. You want to produce a product that's successful but doesn't involve the fanboys? Unlikely but possible; you can in fact abandon your existing customer base for what you perceive to be a larger one. Maybe you're lucky and it works. So now you have a new, larger pool of fanboys. Do you hate them now too?

Maybe it's a criticism of fanBOYS & not fangirls, or a broader complaint about how creators have to function within capitalism. I probably shouldn't be overthinking it. I just find it so repellent and illogical to be so openly outwardly hostile to willing customers & consumers. Especially from contrarian gendertrending cunts that don't have fans of their own, don't create anything & just want to take over and/or ruin existing fanbases.

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"fanboy tears" mug

This will always make me Mad on the Internet™. You produce a product in an ongoing IP, you want money and/or fame. Fanboys, your installed customer base, provide you with both. You want to produce a product that's successful but doesn't involve the fanboys? Unlikely but possible; you can in fact abandon your existing customer base for what you perceive to be a larger one. Maybe you're lucky and it works. So now you have a new, larger pool of fanboys. Do you hate them now too?

Maybe it's a criticism of fanBOYS & not fangirls, or a broader complaint about how creators have to function within capitalism. I probably shouldn't be overthinking it. I just find it so repellent and illogical to be so openly outwardly hostile to willing customers & consumers. Especially from contrarian gendertrending cunts that don't have fans of their own, don't create anything & just want to take over and/or ruin existing fanbases.

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It doesn't so much make me mad as it confuses the fuck out of me. Unless this fanbase of yours is utterly, irrevocable repellent -- and I'm sorry, that's just not the case here -- why on Earth would you alienate them? If nothing else, don't you like money?

This kinda goes back to a theory I've got about these 'woke' goobers. They are clinically incapable of executing a course of action or exploring a concept without engaging in the usual victim politics.

The sad irony is that so many of these concepts, if you file the exceptionalism down, could stand some exploration. I always thought Gail Simone had a point with the Women in Refrigerators complaint; but instead of tackling it rationally, we got Anita Scamnesian and her victimwhoring campaign.
 
I always thought Gail Simone had a point with the Women in Refrigerators complaint; but instead of tackling it rationally, we got Anita Scamnesian and her victimwhoring campaign.
Now that you mention it, I've never seen the actual list. Tried doing a poke around and a lot of sites have discontinued it or no longer are in service; I'm sure it's still out there somewhere. In the meantime though:

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Is that what all the fuss is about? Marvel had 43 instances of violence or dehumanizing treatment of named women characters because they had significance to a male one. Marvel is famous for having over 9000+ heroes and villains copywritten & primed for their own series/show/book/toy/game, and there's an uproar over 43 instances of supposed gender slights? It's a below-1% occurrence. I'd be more concerned about how many Robin's Batman has gone through & how many sidekicks have met humiliating or fatal ends than this.

EDIT: Especially when some of their top examples are "Gwen Stacy dropped by Green Goblin/neck snapping" in classic Spider-Man and "Barbara Gordon getting shot/crippled" in The Killing Joke. The argument is that women are permanently killed/wounded/depowered to further male storylines, but Gwen is literally reborn or cloned or her own hero in other books/storylines, and Barbara transitions from being a Bat-Girl to Oracle because she's crippled, and there's still books where she's Bat-Girl/Bat-Woman anyways in other timelines. What exactly is the concern here, when men are wrecked all the time as well?
 
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Now that you mention it, I've never seen the actual list. Tried doing a poke around and a lot of sites have discontinued it or no longer are in service; I'm sure it's still out there somewhere. In the meantime though:

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Is that what all the fuss is about? Marvel had 43 instances of violence or dehumanizing treatment of named women characters because they had significance to a male one. Marvel is famous for having over 9000+ heroes and villains copywritten & primed for their own series/show/book/toy/game, and there's an uproar over 43 instances of supposed gender slights? It's a below-1% occurrence. I'd be more concerned about how many Robin's Batman has gone through & how many sidekicks have met humiliating or fatal ends than this.
It's pretty much bullshit. Just Gail Simone stirring shit to raise her profile and browbeat people into hiring her.

Just some Guy did a piece on "fridging" a while ago.
 
It's pretty much bullshit. Just Gail Simone stirring shit to raise her profile and browbeat people into hiring her.

Just some Guy did a piece on "fridging" a while ago.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=X7FjIRWfgoY
Agreed. I never thought the issue was so serious that 'we must have a major movement to change this!'.

But as an overused trope or cliche? Sure, why not. And besides, rattle the box a little bit, see if something new pops out. There's nothing proven under the sun that can't stand a round or two of poking and prodding. Kicking the tires, checking under the hood, make sure the lights work, etc.

Instead, we get 'WOMEN ARE HORRIBLY ABUSED AND OBJECTIFIED IN COMICS AND IF YOU DISAGREE YOU ARE BAD!'.
 
Ah the old “Fridging” bullshit. Yeah Batman never suffered from getting broken and another character benefiting from it. Oh wait:
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Seriously tho,
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This was a story called Batman: KnightFall. Bane attacks Batman after exhausting him through calculated planning, breaking him and leaving Batman basically crippled for a while. During which he hands his cowl to Azrael (imagine a Templar version of Batman), who then ctakes revenge on Bane. Azrael later takes thing farther than Batman ever did and Batman returns after recovering to fight BatAzrael.
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The funny thing is, Disney doesn't even need these practitioners of baizuo manga. The only intention of hiring them was for moderately expensive PR points. All they needed to do was get hired. Not produce successful books. Not create successful characters. Image is one of the most important things to Disney. The "purse puppy" designation is very appropriate here. Disney will clean sweep them as soon as they fly so far off the deep end their hiring can no longer be spun positively in any way.
 
:story: Taylor is playing the phantom intern card:
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Taylor Esposito Addresses Personal Attack Against Jon Del Arroz and Alt Hero in Dynamite and Atari’s Centipede Comics!
John F. Trent, August 2, 2018
Letterer Taylor Esposito has taken to Twitter to address the personal attacks and insults discovered in Dynamite Comics and Atari’s Centipede #4. The comic included a personal attack against writer Jon Del Arroz as well as Vox Day’s Alt-Hero comic book series.


Esposito claims the alien script in the book was included by an intern.

When I letter, I typically copy and paste text from a script. When I have an intern, I have them place the text for me to save time. Apparently at the end of 2017, an intern took it upon themselves to insert a message in an alien language we used. 1/
— Taylor Esposito (@TaylorEspo) August 2, 2018

Unfortunately, it was realized after the issue went to print and it was corrected immediately for the collected edition because that needed to be taken care of. After it was found out, that intern was dealt with and had the incident noted to their school. 2/
— Taylor Esposito (@TaylorEspo) August 2, 2018

I now keep an eye on whatever is in a cypher font to make sure it doesn’t happen again. If anyone knows me, I usually just put in song lyrics to amuse myself. I’m sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused. 3/
— Taylor Esposito (@TaylorEspo) August 2, 2018

They were a young kid, they thought it was being cute.
— Taylor Esposito (@TaylorEspo) August 2, 2018

Who hasn’t done something dumb in college? Honestly, the thing that was snuck in, I don’t even know who it was.
— Taylor Esposito (@TaylorEspo) August 2, 2018

He did not name the intern.

Esposito has a track record of targeting other comic professionals. He previously cheered on B. Clay Moore’s threat against Diversity & Comics. Moore threatened to follow Diversity & Comics around a convention floor in the hopes of goading him into violence.

Esposito would cheer him on, “I’d love to yell ‘one punch’ after you level him.”
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Dynamite previously released a statement: “Dynamite was made aware of an issue, and resolved with the creator in question. No further comment.”

However in an email correspondence with Jon Del Arroz Dynamite’s Joseph Ryblandt responded:

“Ok, well, we found out what happened and it was not know (Sp?) by the major players working on the issue, nor the editorial staff and, it was apparently adjusted for the trade paperback. So, it’s taken care of in the permanent record and I apologize for the harm it may have caused.
Our marketing director is tweeting out your indigo-go as you requested.”

Do you believe that this was done by an intern? Or do you think Esposito and Dynamite Comics could be covering their tracks?

http://boundingintocomics.com/2018/...hero-in-dynamite-and-ataris-centipede-comics/
Jon speaks about his experience and how Dynamite handled the Centipede "attack":
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Dynamite Entertainment Proves Professionalism Isn’t Dead After Nasty Personal Attack Uncovered in Comic!
Jon Del Arroz, August 3, 2018
On Wednesday night, a reader messaged me and asked me if I’d seen that I was attacked by name in disgusting terms I could have never imagined seeing in a comic. The reader sent me screen shots of Dynamite Entertainment’s Centipede #4. Most of the details have already been reported here on Bounding Into Comics. It was a shock to the system to see such horrific writing about me in print, especially as I’m just launching my comic career with my wildly successful Flying Sparks IndieGoGo campaign.

At this point, we know the culprit for inserting the language is likely Taylor Esposito, and I believe he acted alone. He had established motive as I in my journalistic work broke a story about professionals harassing Richard Meyer in which he was in the screen shot. It’s unlikely many people in the comic industry beyond that direct group knew me at the time. The timing is right for when the work was done as well. But instead of apologizing like he should (I’ll forgive you Taylor, just talk to me), has made a story about a nameless “intern” and subsequently locked down his social media account so he can’t be questioned on it. That’s not the way to handle things.

The correct way to handle bad situations like this is how the company itself, Dynamite Entertainment, took care of this business in a swift manner. But there’s a history of organizations failing in treating me with basic human dignity, and I think it’s important to show the contrast between how Dynamite did the right thing, and how others are failing at it.

My History Of Professionals Harassing Me Over Politics
For those unaware of my recent past, ever since I called out Marvel’s apparent policy of blacklisting (or never hiring) conservatives as writers on The Federalist, I’ve been hit with waves of hate ranging from industry blacklisting, to the doxxing of my children, to having a strange anonymous package being sent to my house.

When this was going on, I was under fire from an organization called the Science Fiction Writers of America. Their stated mission is to be a professional guild, a lot like Hollywood has SAG or similar, in order to help foster professional writers and protect us. Unfortunately, their president has a bizarre personal vendetta against me, motivated by my outspoken political opinions, and they’ve gone overdrive in attacking me.

The events I mentioned above where I was harassed and threatened were directly timed after some of her vicious personal attacks on me on social media. I tried to email with her to reason, to tell her fans to knock it off, that there’s a line we can’t cross, that we have to be professional, but she only doubled down and attacked me further. She abused her power to try to discredit me as an author, and then when I qualified for SFWA, which is no small task, she riled up the membership committee to ban me.

Instead of coming together and dialing down the rhetoric, their president escalated it at every turn. And it did her no good. SFWA as a brand is tarnished now because people see that it is a clique, a politically-driven high school lunch yard where bullies pick on outsiders. No conservatives feel safe around the people in charge. It would have been very easy for their president simply to say “we don’t attack children, we don’t send things to people’s houses or try to hurt them, we are better than this,” but she refused to do that.

The Right Way To Handle These Situations
Now let’s look at how Dynamite Entertainment handled the situation in contrast. Dynamite is known for licensed properties for the most part, and I’ve actually been a patron of their books. My artist on Flying Sparks has penciled several of their books, so we are very tied into the company, if only on the periphery.

They saw what happened and took action like this:

1. Responded quickly, didn’t delay.
2. Admitted the problem, apologized for harm caused.
3. Assisted me in my career.
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That’s a beautiful response if you think about it. It’s consummate professionalism on a corporate level. They say the writer/artist/editorial were not aware of the attacks on me in the book when it released, but they are correcting it for the trade paperback version.

I believe them 100%.

You might ask why would I believe them? Look at the above actions. They didn’t run and hide, didn’t go out publicly and bash me, didn’t pull some “I deserve it for being controversial,” but instead they responded quickly and acted to help me personally.

Think about how hard all of that is to do in the current political climate. We’re in a position where companies are doubling down constantly. Where someone like Sarah Sanders is thrown out of a restaurant because of her job working for the president. Where the industry standard through groups like Marvel and SFWA are simply to just attack harder and try to destroy someone over their political beliefs. Dynamite bucked that trend.

It’s deserving of applause, and because of that, Dynamite Entertainment is deserving of your support.

http://boundingintocomics.com/2018/...ter-nasty-personal-attack-uncovered-in-comic/
 
She demands a payment to talk to her about ComicsGate. Let's be very clear. If you have the time to harass a con to disinvite someone that you don't like and tag every nerd SJW on Twitter in your tantrum, your time isn't worth anything.

SJWs constantly demand to be paid for doing and contributing nothing.

I for one feel this train of thought should be encouraged as it will encourage them to shut the fuck up without any proactive effort on my end.
 
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