#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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Yes and no. Captain Marvel, Riri Williams and Spider-Gwen all had their books cancelled and rebranded with new #1s a few months later. Ms. Marvel and Squirrel Girl both sell so few copies that they should have been cancelled years ago. America Chavez is the only one who had a title that deserved to be cancelled and was cancelled, permanently.

I don't even recognize Gay Latino Firestar, Erin Esurance and the black guy who looks like the mascot for a home security company. I assume they were created to fill out the missing racial checkboxes.
"Gay Latino Firestar" was from the cancelled Secret Warriors and from when they were pushing inhumans as a mutant replacement, Erin Esurance is actually just Quake but they have her the Asian purple highlight because she's half-Asian despite never having it in the comics, and the black guy is the new Patriot who was Falcon's sidekick when he was Captain America.

Don't ask why Asians get highlights, nobody gets why western media does it all the time. Usually purple or blue.
 
I've been noticing massive improvement from Bleeding Cool ever since Rich got demoted, Jude Terror is actually allowed to say stuff now:

Did Someone Start a Rumor that Disney is Shutting Down Marvel Comics? [X-ual Healing 2-27-19]
Posted by Jude Terror March 3, 2019 Comment
Someone started a massive rumor this weekend that Disney is planning to shut down Marvel Comics because the return of publishing the comics simply isn’t worth the effort when the real money is to be made exploiting their intellectual properties in other mediums. And as it turns out, the person that started that rumor… was me?!

Heh.

Okay, so as the internet continues to rage about this “rumor” and call for my head on a platter, let me assure all of you — I was just doing what I always do, which is to say, take a press release or puff piece story making the rounds in the comics media — in this case an announcement about Marvel’s SXSW panel — and find an offbeat, exaggerated angle from which to approach it, hopefully getting some laughs and maybe making a few points in the process. Of course I know “a panel is just a panel” and Disney isn’t looking to shut Marvel down (though they might one day in the future decide to just forego all the hassle and outsource the license to another publisher). I was joking about that, but being serious about the underlying criticisms of some of things Marvel does.

If you read the actual article, and not just the headline, or worse, another site’s inaccurate summary of the article meant to further their political agenda, or just as bds as that, a Marvel Comics executive’s equally inaccurate summary meant to promote their own corporate agenda, you’d see that the Marvel practices actually criticized therein were those same ones brought up in Brian Hibbs‘ righteous ComicsPRO speech calling out destructive business practices of Marvel such as flooding the market with similar product (like 14 Peter Parker Spider-Man books shipping in April alone), the overuse of super-mega-crossover events that try to compel retailers and readers to purchase dozens of comics based solely on the hype that they’ll “change the Marvel universe forever” (such as $110 worth of War of the Realms tie-ins in May alone), and the reliance on gimmicks like variant covers to convince retailers to purchase more copies of a comic than they can sell just to get their hands on one rare variant they can sell on eBay for more than the cost of the unsold comics, thus artificially inflating sales numbers without actually getting more comics into the hands of readers, which should be Marvel’s priority because comic books are meant to be read.

Dozens of incentive variant covers every month aren’t helping to grow the comics industry, they’re just helping to put more money into Marvel’s pocket right now at the expense of frustrated fans in the future. Super-mega-crossover events and number one issue relaunches aren’t solving the problem of attrition on the sales of ongoing series. They’re just putting a band-aid on it, tricking people into buying these comics based purely on FOMO, on the idea that something “important” might happen in them which they don’t want to miss out on. But when these constant promises to “change the Marvel Universe forever,” killing off characters and resurrecting them a few years later, dramatically altering the status quo only to return things back to exactly how they started by the time the next super-mega-crossover event or number one issue relaunch comes around, ultimately prove to be empty hyperbole, eventually people stop buying into it.

These things may work for a short term sales boost, but they don’t grow readership. In fact, they reduce readership while extracting more money from the readers that remain (just like price increases and “special” five-dollar or eight-dollar comics). That’s not a good longterm strategy. This isn’t done for the benefit of readers or retailers or creators or the industry as a whole. It’s done for the benefit of the next quarterly financial report at Marvel, so they can say, “look how good our sales are!” This is something pretty much everyone who isn’t a Marvel executive should be able to get on board with.

But in the context of the ongoing and increasingly polarizing “culture wars” currently making comics discourse utterly unbearable, Marvel has invested considerable public relations effort into conflating the financial success of Marvel Comics with the validity of progressive values. It’s foolish to buy into this conflation, but people are doing it, and you can see all sorts of people on the internet this weekend zealously defending Marvel’s honor, not one of them bringing up any of the legitimate points above. It’s just “blah blah the comics industry isn’t dying blah blah things are great blah blah only regressive right-wingers would ever criticize the magnanimous Marvel comics.”

And that’s a shame.


Marvel is not a progressive ally. They are a corporation whose primary motivation is to produce profits for their shareholders. Their biggest shareholder, by the way? Marvel Chairman Ike Perlmutter, a person who literally eats Thanksgiving dinner with Donald Trump, whose involvement in the Veterans Affairs department as part of Trump’s administration is currently being investigated by Congress. Does that sound particularly progressive to you?
Of course, there are things that Marvel does that one could consider progressive, just as there are things Marvel does which are the opposite of that. Corporations do not have values. They are not people. Some good people work for them. Some bad people do too. You can give Marvel credit for the progressive things they do, things to reach outside the direct market audience and find new comics readers, broadening the comics readership. And at the same time, you can criticize the things they do which are not good, like relying on gimmicks for short term sales boosts at the expense of long term growth. The two are not mutually exclusive, and not liking incentive variant covers isn’t a political thing.

That’s pretty much all I have to say about this, though I’m sure the e-battle will rage on until the next big controversy captures the attention of the internet, which should be no later than Tuesday at the latest.


Sorry about that folks, had to get it off my chest. If you’ve gotten this far, you might be wondering what this column is about. Well, each week, I buy and read all of the X-Men comics published by Marvel, recap them, and talk about what happened in them, based on decades worth of love for the X-Men franchise. Yeah, I know, definitely the actions of someone who hates Marvel and wants them to fail, right?

Let’s get down to the business of recapping this week’s comics.


TLDR - Jude Terror was the one who made the rumor, in the article he details how off the rails the rumor got spun and that none of the criticisms in the article were addressed because people didn't bother to read more than just the headline. He also points out that whenever someone has legit criticisms the immediately get called a right winger and are ignored thank to the current culture war.

For once I'm actually agreeing with Bleeding Cool on something :jacewow:
 
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I've been noticing massive improvement from Bleeding Cool ever since Rich got demoted, Jude Terror is actually allowed to say stuff now:

Did Someone Start a Rumor that Disney is Shutting Down Marvel Comics? [X-ual Healing 2-27-19]
Posted by Jude Terror March 3, 2019 Comment



TLDR - Jude Terror was the one who made the rumor, in the article he details how off the rails the rumor got spun and that none of the criticisms in the article were addressed because people didn't bother to read more than just the headline. He also points out that whenever someone has legit criticisms the immediately get called a right winger and are ignored thank to the current culture war.

For once I'm actually agreeing with Bleeding Cool on something :jacewow:
So what you're saying is Bleeding Cool is run by regressive Right-Wingers who need to be hit with baseball bats for their sins? Understandable.
 
and the black guy who looks like the mascot for a home security company.
...and the black guy is the new Patriot who was Falcon's sidekick when he was Captain America.
Never forget Nu-Patriot set fire to a bank in antifa fashion and Marvel turned him into a "patriotic" hero:
Captain America: Sam Wilson #19
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Never forget Nu-Patriot set fire to a bank in antifa fashion and Marvel turned him into a "patriotic" hero:
Captain America: Sam Wilson #19
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Sorry if this is post spamming, nu-Patriot is just....odd as a character. I think he was created because of legal issues surrounding the previous Patriot but he's acknowledged to be friends with the new guy and apperently does charity work after moving out of New York/giving up the superhero thing off-screen. Elijah Bradley really got the short end of the stick compared to the rest of his peers in the Young Avengers. He just vanished meanwhile Hulkling and Wiccan get some attention whenever Marvel wants to shill their gay characters and Hawkeye (Kate Bishop) got the best deal of all of them as she keeps getting used as a lead character in books that treat Clint Barton as some sitcom dad.

Rayshaun Lucas, the new one, is like a weird substitute. He was created as a sidekick for the Falcon who really didn't need one and is just detached from the rest of the Marvel universe for the most part. If you want me to make a cynical guess, I imagine he's in that cartoon just because they wanted a black kid without doubling up on spiders by using Miles Morales. The majority of characters created when Marvel was really pushing replacement characters were white girls and some adult black men. Miles predates the era but if you "need" a young black guy created in recent times to say you're diverse, it's going to be him or Patriot as they did little with that demographic.
 
was created as a sidekick for the Falcon who really didn't need one
He didn't need one so much they gave him a 2nd one:
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and a 3rd one:
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and a 4th one:
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Now that I think about it, I think they just gave him CW treatment.
 
Never forget Nu-Patriot set fire to a bank in antifa fashion and Marvel turned him into a "patriotic" hero:
Captain America: Sam Wilson #19
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I will never understand the laziness of so many digital artists. So damn cheap looking.

He didn't need one so much they gave him a 2nd one:
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and a 3rd one:
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and a 4th one:
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Now that I think about it, I think they just gave him CW treatment.

It's hard to believe that those are real covers. They have no competent graphic designers in payroll apparently?
 
Hang on. Didn't Marvel already have a character called Firestar? What happened to her?View attachment 683969View attachment 683970

Firestar is current presumed dead with most of the mutants in the Marvel Universe after X-Man teleported a good number of mutants into a pocket universe where mutants are accepted ala Heroes Reborn.

She's also been ruined for ages, after Kurt Busiek erased all of her character growth from New Warriors and various hacks broke her and Justice up, so she could (literally the reason given) ride the cock carousal like her fellow college students were doing, whereas Justice wanted them to settle down and get married and be a normal married super-hero couple. She got put on the X-Men by Jason Aaron towards the end of his X-Men run, but has largely been reduced to background fodder for the X-books these days and basically reduced to a pod person with no depth, personality, or characteristics outside fire blast girl.
 
Mim got a new job that pays big $$$, so he will be dipping out for now. Congrats, if you ever see this Mim :drink::
 
Kwanzer is back and Kickstarting his new project the followup to the 'hit' series BLACK. It's called WHITE :story:
 
Let me guess, the context to this somehow makes the scene even worse. Is he an anti-Capitalist thug or something?
The context is dumb, RAGE (a black hero) gets arrested for a crime he didn't commit:
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While he's in custody he decides not to fight it because "he's black so why bother" and is sentenced for the crime.
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The announcement of the sentencing is what makes our little hero molotov cocktail a bank and causes riots in the streets:
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:roll: TFW the art shows people looting and setting cars on fire and THEN the cops start throwing tear gas, kinda shooting your "Americops are racists who beats blacks for no reason" argument in the foot:
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He did assault the robocops which I'm guessing is still illegal but I guess no one actually cares to point that out: 684368 684365
 
The context is dumb, RAGE (a black hero) gets arrested for a crime he didn't commit:
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While he's in custody he decides not to fight it because "he's black so why bother" and is sentenced for the crime.
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The announcement of the sentencing is what makes our little hero molotov cocktail a bank and causes riots in the streets:
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:roll: TFW the art shows people looting and setting cars on fire and THEN the cops start throwing tear gas, kinda shooting your "Americops are racists who beats blacks for no reason" argument in the foot:
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He did assault the robocops which I'm guessing is still illegal but I guess no one actually cares to point that out:View attachment 684368View attachment 684365
Wait, is this shit from that comic where a bunch of black "superheroes" tries to "liberate" Harlem from the US?

Regardless, having the so called "heroes" evoke BLM bullshit does make this shit worse.
 
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