#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[jspit]

So if you all haven’t seen yet, EVS received a death threat from some indie guy named Mike Wellman. For some reason JustSomeGuy thinks substantially more famous comic pros need to disavow him (but don’t ask EVS to disavow Warcampaign, they’re good boys). Some of these names are a bit odd. Tom King tends to keep his head down and, while he’s gotten into autistic spats with EVS on Twitter, I’ve never seen Donny Cates mention or interact with Mike Wellman in any way.

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EDIT: John Layman, presumably searching his own name, left this in the comments. Because obsessively searching your own name online isn’t psychotic enough.

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If I were to make a list of most fucking worthless people in comics, Layman would be at the top. It's not just horrible, awful personality, its his contribution.

Hama's comments are the worst. If anyone is a has been its the guy who went from writing Wolverine and Batman to writing a pity fuck GI Joe book at IDW.

Somethings been bothering me. Larry Hama has been a bitch now for what, four or five years?

How does the Joe fanbase feel about him slandering a group with a shit ton of war vets?

 

[Ma Wang]

Marvel Comics Puts One-Third of Current Projects on Hold

With the comics industry still in a tough spot amid COVID-19, Marvel will be "pausing" work on (and the release of) one-third of its upcoming issues.

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Is this a tacit admission that at least a third of Marvels's output is shelf-filling garbage?

 

[KingofNothing]

Woo, that Wellman guy is unhinged as fuck, but yeah we all know that is guy isn't going to do shit. At best this is just circling the wagon to rile the fans up and to call out the pros who are going to ignore this because frogman bad when they would be chimping out if this was anyone else. The multiple videos and streams they're gonna make about this guy will be annoying though

As for the Sonic stuff I just read about on here, it sounds like Archie with Ken Penders, but even more incompetent since besides his Knuckles fetish, Ken could make good shit in between his head canon fanfiction.

Eh, I'd be hardpressed to go that far. At worst, Ian is just kinda mediocre since he's not as good as coming up with wild stuff on his own like Ken (IMO some of Ian's best stuff was just reworking things Ken already established) and Sega doesn't really want people going off the rails after that lawsuit with Archie and Ken. Honestly IDW Sonic's main problem is that it doesn't take any risks. You're gonna get a safe and by the numbers kiddy Sonic comic that leans heavily on the game, which depending on how you feel about the blue blur, is just what you want or a boring slog.


And speaking of IDW, Larry Hama gets to take a little break from G.I. Joe because it's #PENCILSDOWN for him. This could be the start of many for IDW. They might actually be next.

IDW Puts Larry Hama's Long-Running G.I. JOE Series on Hiatus

Knowing is half the battle.

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Writer Larry Hama has revealed that IDW Publishing has told him to suspend any current writing work on his long-running G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero series.

"[I've] Just got 'pencils down' on a storyline I've been doing for 275 issues," Hama wrote on Facebook. "This is a hiatus at present. I am wrapping up the end of 'Snake Hunt' so that it will be ready to go into the chute once the smoke clears."

Hama didn't disclose a specific reason work has been suspended, although its almost certainly due to the effects the coronavirus crisis is having on the Direct Market comic book industry.

The current "Snake Hunt" story arc is solicited to end July 15 with G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero #275. Issue #271 was scheduled to come out April 1 before the Diamond stoppage.

Newsarama has reached out to IDW for comment and will update the story if we receive a response.

 

[jspit]

Woo, that Wellman guy is unhinged as fuck, but yeah we all know that is guy isn't going to do shit. At best this is just circling the wagon to rile the fans up and to call out the pros who are going to ignore this because frogman bad when they would be chimping out if this was anyone else. The multiple videos and streams they're gonna make about this guy will be annoying though


Eh, I'd be hardpressed to go that far. At worst, Ian is just kinda mediocre since he's not as good as coming up with wild stuff on his own like Ken (IMO some of Ian's best stuff was just reworking things Ken already established) and Sega doesn't really want people going off the rails after that lawsuit with Archie and Ken. Honestly IDW Sonic's main problem is that it doesn't take any risks. You're gonna get a safe and by the numbers kiddy Sonic comic that leans heavily on the game, which depending on how you feel about the blue blur, is just what you want or a boring slog.


And speaking of IDW, Larry Hama gets to take a little break from G.I. Joe because it's #PENCILSDOWN for him. This could be the start of many for IDW. They might actually be next.

IDW Puts Larry Hama's Long-Running G.I. JOE Series on Hiatus

Knowing is half the battle.

www.newsarama.com

Never read the Sonic stuff. Is it as insular as I'm thinking it is?

 

[Shemp David Niven]

The point is that SJWs and their ilk have spent years casually crybullying the world over the many 'death threats' they get, yet never produce a one. They don't say I got death threats over the phone or I had death threats in my mailbox so of course we must assume they're referring to email and/or social-media posts, the easiest fucking Exhibit A's to warehouse and produce when asked/challenged. They never do.

Insofar as the dwindling sandbox of comics pros is concerned, it's no surprise at all that the only plainly evident and wholly-verifiable 'death threat' bobbing to the surface turns out to be one issued by a SJW - and what an SJW! A shrieking idiot in a tasteful Sheena, Queen of the Jungle two-piece, his business about to go belly-up, following up empty threats (but undeniably threats nonetheless) with the preferred slam-dunk of every idiot: "Answer the question! - did you vote for Trump?!"

Honestly, when I see a business owner facing ruin whose first instinct is to stalk a comic book illustrator to shriek ORANGE MAN BAD at him, all I can think is that it was never his money to begin with. I'm inclined to believe Mike comes from a well-to-do family who are used to bankrolling Mike, and - because they long ago explained him away as 'troubled' - are just as used to him stumbling and failing in his various ventures, none of which ever take precedence over his colic-baby tilting at windmills from his highchair - i.e., his true calling.

 

[KingofNothing]

Never read the Sonic stuff. Is it as insular as I'm thinking it is?

Probably not but you would have to give me a baseline of what you're thinking. Granted IDW Sonic does give more attention to its game history as opposed to Archie Sonic which is a very distinct world from the games Ian does get some wiggleroom to add his own thing like with the current zombie plot. Not exactly an original plot, but it's new for Sonic (hm, that plot has been going longer than I thought checking the issues, not sure how I feel about that). Plus Ian is a huge Sonic nerd so he actually loves shoving in a bunch of references from the franchise

 

[Spectre_06]

Sooo how does this work?

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The woke patrol going to get in line?

According to Nick Rekieta and Ty Beard, even if you have a W-2 as long as you have a 1099 you can still claim an SBA loan that you don't have to pay back so long as it's used for payroll (read: paying yourself).

 

[AnOminous]

It was doomed from the start Corona only gave it the final push it needed to die off. We'll see a lot of small publishers that rely on only a handful of books croak in the same fashion.

I hope Fantagraphics doesn't die as it is shaky even in the best of times.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

EVS received a death threat from some indie guy named Mike Wellman.

In ethans words, "Fun is Fun." People get death threats on the internet all the time he just needs to stop being a pussy. He's acting like Monica rial when she called homeland security on a prank phone call.

 

[RudeRoasts]

Yeah. the actors should bail out the comic shops because reasons. They don't owe the shops shit, most of the people who saw their movies never touched a comic

Cully Hamner on Twitter

“@Doncates Like if any of the main actors and/or directors of the Big Two comics movies "adopted" a comics retailer and paid their rent for 6 months to a year? Would be cool...”

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And rip Lion Forge, not even Gail could save you from yourself. Well that's one company down, I wonder who's gonna be the next to fall

Cates' Thor book is pretty good thus far, so I'm exempting him from this statement.

Most writers from the 2010's on comics aren't owed shit. Their content is what's driven the comics industry into a ditch, and it's going to get just as little, if not even less adaptation attention as the 90's do for these movies and TV shows.

You want comic stores to stay open? Get Marvel and DC to collectively release more than 3-4 half decent books in a month.

Kinda late for that one though.

Oh right, how I could I forget about IDW? I could definitely see them on the chopping block next with these shows flopping. Their comic division definitely won't save them when anything not TMNT can barely make it to 15k units consistently. A shame that Sonic doesn't sell well. It's one of the good ones that isn't selling politics or identity and is purely about the adventure. I think I'd be legitimately sad if this managed to kill the Sonic comics for good

Does TMNT sell particularly well at this point?

 

[jspit]

Probably not but you would have to give me a baseline of what you're thinking. Granted IDW Sonic does give more attention to its game history as opposed to Archie Sonic which is a very distinct world from the games Ian does get some wiggleroom to add his own thing like with the current zombie plot. Not exactly an original plot, but it's new for Sonic (hm, that plot has been going longer than I thought checking the issues, not sure how I feel about that). Plus Ian is a huge Sonic nerd so he actually loves shoving in a bunch of references from the franchise

I've never read a sonic comics. Like the games a bunch. I watched Midnights Edge do it's interview with Penders and I wondered about the comics. Thanks.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

Marvel Comics Puts One-Third of Current Projects on Hold

With the comics industry still in a tough spot amid COVID-19, Marvel will be "pausing" work on (and the release of) one-third of its upcoming issues.

www.cbr.com

Is this a tacit admission that at least a third of Marvels's output is shelf-filling garbage?

Marvel Comics Puts One-Third of Upcoming Releases on Hold | CBR

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With the comic book industry still in a tough spot amid the Coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic, Marvel Comics has announced it will be "pausing" work on (and the release of) about one-third of its May and June titles, effective immediately.

Marvel told Newsarama this decision was made in order to "help spread the amount of publishing product over the coming weeks and months." The company did not reveal the specific titles that will be affected by this change, nor did it reveal when it plans to resume publishing the unaffected books.

Maybe I'm being optimistic, but I'm hoping that one of the titles is the New Warriors book.

 

[Mister Dongs]

So if you all haven’t seen yet, EVS received a death threat from some indie guy named Mike Wellman.

Apparently Preston Poulter has a storied history with Mike Wellman and, if anything, hates him more than he hates Ethan Van Sciver, which until this I didn't even realize was possible.

Summarizing:

• Preston goes from Texas to San Francisco to do a personal interview to see if Wellman's shop "The Comic Bug" will let him show up to do a local comic sale for White Lily #1 + signing in his shop
• While he's at the interview, he fishes out the idea of the shop stocking his comic
• Wellman and partner hold an "interview" to see if Preston will discount 50% off White Lily
• Poulter stalls on giving an answer to such a dumb proposal and flies back to Texas to await an answer
• Three weeks later Wellman calls Preston Poulter some alt-right Trump supporter who did racism against Wellman's asian partner and rallies his customers/followers to brigade Preston.
• Later, Wellman brigades his followers against said partner for being a Trump supporter making his employees work for free.

 

[verissimus]

• Three weeks later Wellman calls Preston Poulter some alt-right Trump supporter who did racism against Wellman's asian partner and rallies his customers/followers to brigade Preston.
• Later, Wellman brigades his followers against said partner for being a Trump supporter making his employees work for free.

Just wow...that is pretty much the textbook definition of a cunt.

 

[Hatoful Dandy]

Marvel Comics Puts One-Third of Current Projects on Hold

With the comics industry still in a tough spot amid COVID-19, Marvel will be "pausing" work on (and the release of) one-third of its upcoming issues.

www.cbr.com

Is this a tacit admission that at least a third of Marvels's output is shelf-filling garbage?

Dare I say it in a way Marvel's pity hires will understand?
"They're saying 'Pencils Down' without saying 'Pencils Down' "

 

[Smug Freiza]

No you guys are exceptional.

This playbook has been run again and again by SJWs. This aging hippie fuck Wellman isn't going to do shit, everyone knows that. He probably hasn't been in a fight since grade school. But the point is to get unhinged fans/activist types to target people with violence and intimidation on their behalf. It's like you didn't notice anything over the last 5 years or so. It's already happened to Ethan before.

Sure Ethan's going to leverage this for bucks. Ethan gonna Ethan. But it's a dangerous game these psychopaths are playing, and they know what they're doing. They run the same plays out of a well worn playbook again and again.

Its not a dangerous game they are playing, its a stupid game. You contradict yourself in your own post, "this aging hippie fuck Wellman isn't going to do shit" but then "its a dangerous game they are playing". Pick one, because they both can't be correct.

Ethan and Warcampaign run the exact same playbook when it comes to using unhinged fans/activists to target people with violence and intimidation, or are you deliberately forgetting that Warcampaigner Panboy Soychild is awaiting court charges for stalking some guy he disagreed with over comic books on the internet? Or that Reinoe faked photoshops of a CG critical content creator Fan Advocacy Network claiming he was a pedophile while getting it signal boosted by the likes of Andrew Huerta, Donal Delay, Micah Curtis, Liam Gray and Warcampaign while tagging the FBI in their tweets? Or the gayops TUG and his wife Lola have been caught red-handed in not just in Comicsgate but Weeb Wars also?

(Edit): Has Ethan called out this behavior despite being asked to? No, he hasn't. His openly condoned it, if not encouraged Warcampaign's spergatory actions by constantly hand waving it away as "it's just a prank bro, HAIL WARCAMPAIGN!" Yet there is no evidence that Larry Hama or any other pro encouraged this Wellman moron to attack Ethan, so demanding they take ownership of it is retarded.

The REEEing Comicsgate is currently doing over this nontroversy is just as pathetic as the nobody LCS owner who sperged to begin with. Nothing is going to happen, like I said these people are only as scary as CG allows them to be in their own minds.

The multiple videos and streams they're gonna make about this guy will be annoying though

Its already begun.

Zacks take:

QuarterPounders take:

Ethans take: (which of course is a multi hour livestream...)

And @Mister Dongs already posted Preston Poulters take, which is probably the most interesting video out of all of them since he seems to have had a run in with Wellman before. Its probably only a matter of time til TUG and Yellowflash jump on this as well since this is the kinda drama those pair of whores thrive on.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

His openly condoned it, if not encouraged Warcampaign's spergatory actions by constantly hand waving it away as "it's just a prank bro, HAIL WARCAMPAIGN!"

He did say he's okay with their actions because they are "spregs". So I wouldn't be surprised he is involved with the gayops wc does. It's interesting Ethan is running with the Death Threat sob story when he told a fan to kill himself. I do think it's funny Ethan got scared by mike and made him make a 4 hour livestream, he should've just reported it.

 

[Dafuqisdis?]

Its not a dangerous game they are playing, its a stupid game. You contradict yourself in your own post, "this aging hippie fuck Wellman isn't going to do shit" but then "its a dangerous game they are playing". Pick one, because they both can't be correct.

No dude In didn't contradict myself if you would actually read more than one sentence into my post. I expressly told you why it was dangerous even though he didn't plan on doing shit himself, he's trying to stoke one of the shitbirds that obsess over this shit to follow through on his threats. There's no contradiction there.

Ethan and Warcampaign run the exact same playbook when it comes to using unhinged fans/activists to target people with violence and intimidation, or are you deliberately forgetting that Warcampaigner Panboy Soychild is awaiting court charges for stalking some guy he disagreed with over comic books on the internet?

Oh so you did read the argument I made, which you regurgitate here in a different context, nice being disingenuous.

I've never heard of the Warcampaign thing. Nobody cares about e-warrior hijinks and empty threats. Has Warcampaign ever harmed a hair on someone's head? I'd be shocked if they did. But anti-CG players have consistently attempted to bring things into the real world with these methods. They've been caught trying to organize violence at cons and other foul shit, and it's not random internet weirdos but actual industry figures.

Having ringleaders threaten someones life to explicitly egg on the knuckdraggers to violence is bad news and if you don't get that I don't know what to tell you.

The good thing is nothing will come of probably because of coronavirus and the fact that anti-CG and CG have run out of energy, last time

Or that Reinoe faked photoshops of a CG critical content creator Fan Advocacy Network claiming he was a pedophile while getting it signal boosted by the likes of Andrew Huerta, Donal Delay, Micah Curtis, Liam Gray and Warcampaign while tagging the FBI in their tweets? Or the gayops TUG and his wife Lola have been caught red-handed in not just in Comicsgate but Weeb Wars also?\

I don't even know what any of this is and it's just desperate whataboutism.

Look nothing is going to come of this shit, probably, but SJWs never know when to stop, they always try to push things further. But good thing is I think the worst elements have moved on to other shit, they're bored of this.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

I don't even know what any of this is and it's just desperate whataboutism.

You say "Has Warcampaign ever harmed a hair on someone's head?" But when he does it you say it's desperate whataboutism?

 

[Smug Freiza]

No dude In didn't contradict myself if you would actually read more than one sentence into my post. I expressly told you why it was dangerous even though he didn't plan on doing shit himself, he's trying to stoke one of the shitbirds that obsess over this shit to follow through on his threats. There's no contradiction there.

I did read your entire post and I still disagree with your opinion. It doesn't sound like Mike Wellman is trying to stoke one of the shitbirds, it sounds like he himself is the shitbird. A shitbird nobody should take seriously because it's clear his a loser who isn't going to follow through on anything.

Oh so you did read the argument I made, which you regurgitate here in a different context, nice being disingenuous.

Oh so you did notice I read more than one sentence in your post, nice being disingenuous.

I've never heard of the Warcampaign thing. Nobody cares about e-warrior hijinks and empty threats. Has Warcampaign ever harmed a hair on someone's head? I'd be shocked if they did. But anti-CG players have consistently attempted to bring things into the real world with these methods. They've been caught trying to organize violence at cons and other foul shit, and it's not random internet weirdos but actual industry figures.

You've never heard of the Warcampaign thing? Then how informed are you on the topic and why should anyone listen to what you have to say when you admit you know nothing about the subject. If nobody cares about e-warrior hijinks and empty threats then why are Comicsgate sperging over a "literally who", involved in e-warrior hijinks and empty threats?

Other than that private group of no name pro's talking about assaulting Richard C Meyer at a con over 2 years ago, there has been no organization of violence. B Clay Moore confronted Capn Cummings in the street and got BTFO'd to the point where Cummings forced him to go to an atm and refund his $30 for Hawaiin Dick. None of these chucklefucks is worth being scared over, this Mike Wellman moron included.

Having ringleaders threaten someones life to explicitly egg on the knuckdraggers to violence is bad news and if you don't get that I don't know what to tell you.

What ringleaders? Name them. Larry Hama? Tom King? Donny Cates? Show some receipts to back up your claim that these ringleaders have egged on this knuckle dragger to threaten Ethan. I don't even like any of the pro's mentioned above, but I'm not going to outright make up bullshit about them either.

I guarantee you none of the industry pro's even know who this Mike Wellman is, not one. Judging from his sperg-out he clearly acted alone in the heat of the moment, nobody put him up to it.

I don't even know what any of this is and it's just desperate whataboutism.

Which reinforces my earlier point that you are misinformed on the subject and I shouldn't listen to you.