#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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I fucking love comicsgate. The dingleberries are ripe and they're dropping off the frog's ass faster than anyone can pick them up.

Fucking gross. I hope no video of Kyle Ritter beating his meat is ever released. Mandy summers is a thot but this gayops dick pic shit is TUG tier fuckery. Ethan may enjoy the homosexual weiner videos but extorting dudes with naked pics is stupid.

You lie down with thots, you get up with crabs?

If the reason for Ro's possession of this video is true, oh hell, even if it isn't, the silly bastard shouldn't have been sending jackoff videos to randos on the internet, even if they do have nice tits. We uncovered another autistic degenerate in comicsgate, people. Add it to the pile. Any sign of a sensible adult?

Hey look, here's one.

As far as I can see @FROG doesn't get anything personally out of helping you

Drama bucks. It's all about drama bucks, Edwin. That's all it ever was about.
 
It looks like Ethan is giving you some direct assistance, take it. Particularly if he can get help you get paid out for Brutas, that alone is worth more than you'll make from mixing it up in youtube slapfights. As far as I can see @FROG doesn't get anything personally out of helping you, apart from obsessive speculation from people who are going to be angry at anything. @NasserRabadi13 accept the help with masculine gratitude.
Ethan would get the art he wants from Donal (cartoony shit is Donal's specialty it seems) and he'd get the shine of being the peace maker between Donal and Nasser (good PR) instead of the troll who threw fuel on the fire. (which is some peoples opinion right or wrong)

I'm not passing judgement here. If Ethan can help sort out Donal's situation in a manner that leaves all parties ready to move on then I think he'd be doing something worthwhile whatever his motives.

But I think the point is moot. The good ship Ethan has sailed and Nasser's on the dock wishing he hadn't invalidated his own ticket.

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Me and @FROG are fine. He was just on my stream and bought the Asyl cover.

Good for you Nasser. I guess all that groveling worked. The important thing is that you learned your place.

Now you know exactly what will happen if you ever displease your lord and savior again. I wonder if @TheCosmicWarrior got the message.

Time stamped at the moment Ethan saves Nasser's career in comics.
 
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Like three years ago in an early CG stream Timothy Lim pointed out some contradiction in EVS's statement of principles about what "Comicsgate WAS and WAS NOT". I don't remember the details exactly, but I think EVS was saying something like "CG can't have ANY political content," and Tim Lim was like "Well I'm already ComicsGate and I've done political comics that Zack has promoted, and those comics were with Chuck Dixon who CGers are working with now, and we're all friendly and cool with everything. So how do you feel about that?"

At which point EVS lost his mind, with volcanoes exploding in his brain, after a mild-- not even a rebuke, more like an open question about what he thought. Somehow EVS perceived that giving an honest answer here would have revealed just how much of a control-freak he wanted to be vis-a-vis micromanaging what everyone else connected to the CG name did and thought.

After deflecting in public, EVS then privately issued a bounty on Tim Lim (we'll call it a metaphorical bounty, but who's to say, I mean, obviously to some extent EVS buys loyalty from helpless creators by buying comics from them, as Nasser has just told us above). Tim Lim was then mercilessly harassed and annoyed by War Campaign for years.

I don't recall Tim Lim ever retaliating or speaking about it. That's not even to his credit, imo, by the way. Like, I'm not trying to get sympathy for him. I could give a fuck about him or his knock-off manga comics. Tim is just like a polite little nobody, for better or worse. He's a little nobody who churns out an awful lot of comics per year and whose audience continues to grow. They're not my thing, but whatever.

Also I guess Tim does comics only as a hobby, since he's a doctor in his day job. So he's not really a full-time comics artist, much less a YouTuber. He does comics for fun and barely does any YouTube at all, less this year than ever. I don't even remember the last time I saw that he was doing a stream, but he happened to be doing one tonight. Is it a "Kamen America 2/3 launch/recap stream"? No. It's him and two of his buddies talking about the Mandolorian. I pop in for a second soon after it starts and see this:


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Three years later and EVS is STILL butt hurt over this guy and needs to keep insisting how happy he is.

You'd think that an actually "happy millionaire" with a wife and family, a YouTube channel of his own, and multiple comic projects that will end up being late, would have better things to do. Because he's done this sort of thing before. Like when average autistic fans of his got Cyberfrog last year and were moderately disappointed, so they made YouTube videos shows off their speech impediments. But if you watched any of these videos, you'd see that EVS would have made nasty comments in many of them, like, within minutes of them going up. And now he shows up immediately in Tim Lim's first live stream in forever. Who has the time for this? You'd think an actually successful person would have other things on their mind.

He's a bit like a sociopath, still.

That's all I'm saying.
 
When I see stuff like this I just think @FROG has to deal with 10x of videos like this just going on about him like he's a criminal every single day and I can't believe I hung around this bunch who is really just here to be miserable and try to make everyone else miserable. Sorry, dude. I get it now.
I think people should be allowed to make as many criticism videos toward Frog as they want. Hell, the masochistic bastard probably watches most of them.

That said, his detractors do get a bit ridiculous sometimes.
 

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I think people should be allowed to make as many criticism videos toward Frog as they want. Hell, the masochistic bastard probably watches most of them.

That said, his detractors do get a bit ridiculous sometimes.
Ah, it was a fake account trolling Tim Lim?

I was so sure I was a sociopath there for a minute.

I have no memory of making fun of Tim Lim's viewer count, but I might have. I could have had a few drinks. When did this happen? And how long did it take you to comb through his livestreams in order to bring it here and diagnose me?
 
Ah, it was a fake account trolling Tim Lim?

I was so sure I was a sociopath there for a minute.

I have no memory of making fun of Tim Lim's viewer count, but I might have. I could have had a few drinks. When did this happen? And how long did it take you to comb through his livestreams in order to bring it here and diagnose me?
You've gravely misunderstood me. I was casually watching the latest EFAP and noticed a troll posing as you in their chat. I screencapped it and used it to reinforce my point that sometimes your detractors go overboard. Calm down old man.
 
You've gravely misunderstood me. I was casually watching the latest EFAP and noticed a troll posing as you in their chat. I screencapped it and used it to reinforce my point that sometimes your detractors go overboard. Calm down old man.
No sir, I'm making reference to the post by "Penguin" four posts prior to yours, accusing me of harassing Tim Lim's chat, saying, "It's been three years and you can't let it go" implying that this was a recent event.

There are clearly fake ComicArtistPro Secrets accounts trolling YouTube, as you've just shown.

Not that I think it's a big deal. Trolling Tim Lim's chat is fair game, I endure far worse. But I don't recall doing it, so either I was mildly intoxicated, or it was fake, or it happened a long time ago. Or any combination of those. In which case, "It's been three years" is bullshit.
 
Time stamped at the moment Ethan saves Nasser's career in internet buffoonery.

Fixed that for you.

Because he's done this sort of thing before. Like when average autistic fans of his got Cyberfrog last year and were moderately disappointed, so they made YouTube videos shows off their speech impediments. But if you watched any of these videos, you'd see that EVS would have made nasty comments in many of them, like, within minutes of them going up. And now he shows up immediately in Tim Lim's first live stream in forever. Who has the time for this? You'd think an actually successful person would have other things on their mind.

He's a bit like a sociopath, still.

Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a demanding mistress.
 

THE OZ SHOW #53

Today's Oz show began to an unpromising start; a no doubt heavily sedated Oz Art peacefully streamsniping NASA video footage of a rocket launch. The chat civilly assembles with the occasional Warcampaigner mingled with the chat, rumors of Panboy Soychild Donglover's reckoning with @Testefy_HD being whispered about. Oz voiced his displeasure that I no longer wrote up his show, that it was dismissed as the sewer of CG, I voiced my displeasure at there being little to write about then the repetitive sperging of two no-name drunks, but overall his demeanor was calm and genial as he welcomed the assembled to his show. At sixteen minutes in Oz finally broached the subject of what he wanted to talk about; lighting quick by Oz Art standards - the title of the stream being "A Dog Will Always Bite", a heavy-handed simile not only to the innately treacherous nature of Nasser Rabadi, the return of whom was strongly discouraged by Oz and the Australian Comicsgate division, but also to to Sketch Therapy losing his moderator wrench in Frog's chat, a great personal victory for Oz in his seemingly endless conflict with Sketch.

Normally, to get the rank and file in Comicsgate to feel genuine animosity towards someone they don't know takes a degree of orchestration and effort. Patient coordination over weeks in a carefully laid out gayop is usually required to get a Comicsgater to feel hatred against someone, to argue with determined disingenuousness that said person is a white nationalist or crowdfund embezzler or "traitor to the community". Not so regarding Sketch Therapy - absolutely zero prompting was needed to give the Comicsgate proletariat a sense of existential threat at Sketch being given any sort of power whatsoever. Deep down in their autistic bones, the CG proles knew that the only reason why Sketch hadn't lined them against the proverbial wall with a machinegun was lack of opportunity on Sketch's part. Unprompted, dozens of placid simps and JACK show fans protested Sketch's elevation daily, only to be met with Puerto Rican accusations of fellatio and threats of violence. The removal of Sketch's janny wrench was met with great relief from many Comicsgaters, and no doubt with Oz especially.

Unfortunately, it still it was too late as the chat got bored and sought bloodsports among themselves, loyal CGers like Orga777 taking swings at the unwelcome presence of Panboy, Frog janny, used underpants merchant and wandering lolcow Shiela Aliens/@H0stile taking on many slings arrows herself from the anti-prostitution wing of Comicsgate. Many Oz Show viewers also protested the temporary banning of regular guest Ryzie Lee for his profligate use of the word "nigger" and unnervingly sober (for Ryzie) articulating of his deepseated hatred of black people.

At twenty minutes in, overt WC member "Panboy Soychild Donglover" and covert WC member El Hombre are brought in by Oz and invited to say his piece. Pan is direct about his intentions for being here - he is calling out Etsy Boy/WC anathema Testefy_HD to face him. For context Testefy has previously stipulated that he will not face Panboy until the DMCA strike on his channel by Liam Gray is lifted. Panboy explains how other drama-scavenging programs than Oz's show, including Preston Poulter and DarkGift Comics, have offered their platforms to stage this debate only for Testefy to decline them all. Largely this part of the stream is Panboy giving backstory to the previous day's antics when mutual hater of Testefy Nasser Rabadi gave Pan the streamyard link to his platform while Testefy was on, shortly followed by Testefy vacating the stream (clip here). This was naturally followed by heavy invective on Panboy's part directed towards Testefy, a sentiment no doubt silently shared by his fellow panelists Oz and El Hombre. Panboy continues to call out Testefy, going through a list of clips and retorts directed towards the absent Etsy.

This goes on for some while until 35 minutes in when Testefy arrives to demand documented evidence of him stating he will contact the district attorney prosecuting Mat Hanson/Panboy's cyberstalking trial and he will wait in the back room until Panboy provides it. Panboy directs Oz to a twitter account that definitely isn't his new one (his old account being flagged into oblivion by Testefy), yet he possesses categorical knowledge of what the account has posted and how to find it. Oz show regular and oaf "Berserk Guts" is also brought onto the show, presumably as additional anti-Testefy backup but at this stage mostly just giggles approvingly whenever Pan says something against his Etsy opponent.

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Testefy returns at the 37 minute mark when this is posted, saying that this is not him stating he contacted the prosecuting attorney in Pan's court case, saying that he got this information from Pan streaming his court case documentation on D-Live. As one does. The dialog between Pan and Testefy is largely loud demands of the other party to prove various things about each other. Panboy challenges "Kiwi spergs" to prove he is on probation. The panelists drift aimlessly for a while on a variety of topics; Berserk Guts posturing to Panboy that he "went easy on cheatch because of his Warcampaign logo", Antonio Brice's beef with Captain Chokeout ,the fulfillment of Xenotype and celebrating the apparent self-immolation of Nasser for his impudence against his sponsor Frog. MAN OF S3X shows up for some amiable conversation about the release of various WC correspondence with Frog (outlined here by @Smug Frieza) and that Warcampaign isn't going anywhere despite what Frog says; MOS says he is a customer and customers can't be cancelled and probably some other gay sentiments as well that I'm going to go ahead and skip.

It's at an hour where Berserk Guts bleats something about "Wenger being cancelled" which Pan starts to Now, WC hated Aldrake, publicly laughed at Wenger's self-removal from CG and despised him for siding with CG and blocking them, but such minor details can be put aside for now. That done with the following half hour is a more uneventful, freeform digression as Pan extols the continued existence, power and relevance of Warcampaign despite claims to the contrary by Frog as Berserk Guts vents his anxieties and worries about Mike S Miller, Nasser, Reignbow Brute, Comicsgate drama as a sort of open air therapy.

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Warcampaign 1,0 and 2.0 leaders Ro Kabir and cheatch respectively join at the the 1:30:30 mark, the former quickly seizing the reigns of the stream and directing them back on track towards the subject of the released DM where Jon Malin was revealed as the whistleblower behind Faggotgate. Ro asks Oz how does it make him feel that Frog can't trust people like Jon Malin or TUG. Oz says it makes him sad that Frog apparently can't trust people close to him, like Ro and Pan as well as Jon and TUG. Ro continues his questioning of Oz and asks about the women, "these women that are blackmailing him because they have sexually inappropriate conduct with Kyle [Ritter]"", adding that he has audio recordings of Mandy Summers claiming to possess videos of Ritter masturbating and threatening to use them if she doesn't get her way. Berserk Guts proclaims "That's blackmail, dude!". Ro states his deep disgust with the Comicsgate community and that, in this sordid morass of Comicsgate thottery and blackmail, the final straw that broke his desire to be in Comicsgate was the experience of having to stream with Adam Friended on New Years. This part I related to.

Ro then tells the story of how he and Warcampaign strove endlessly for Comicsgate unity and how he discretely and privately petitioned Frog to put an end to the blackmailing of this disabled simp by Mandy in return for a free cover for Wart the Wizard and promotion on Frog's channel. Alas, his pleas fell on deaf ears. Offhandedly he mentions other female Comicsgate creators who blackmailed the hapless Ritter as well, a virtual blackmail cottage industry going on outside the public eye. Cheatch, bored of listening to other people talk, uses the dramatic pause to cut Ro off so he can start trashtalking Jon Malin for interrupting Billy Tucci's war stories and adds "fuck Michigan". Ro desperately moves to stop this hijacking of the show mid-expose and resume the topic but cheatch doesn't make this easy for him as he uses the twin powers of high mic gain and talking over everyone else until Oz intervenes in Ro's favor by muting the leader of Warcampaign 2.0. It's at this point an offer is made from the chat.

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Oz accedes to Frog's terms and the rest of the panelists (including cheatch) were cleared out for a one-on-one between Frog and Ro. Ro opens by stating his disappointment in what Comicsgate turned out to be as opposed to what he wanted; a true alternative to the comics mainstream. That's why WC made Vestige and promoted books after all. Frog joins the stream and questions the innocence of this show so far and of Ro and his feelings of being a disillusioned man phoning in from work to air out the behind scenes sexual histories of Comicsgaters. Ro says Frog sold him and his people out to get rich quick with Dynamite. Frog attempts to returns to the subject of Ritter, challenging Ro to disclose all his evidence but the latter says Frog should concern himself with his own business, that his audience is dwindling and asks why Reignbow Brute didn't crack a million dollars. Frog ventures that maybe if he let WC continue to harass people in Comicsgate then they would have been able to add WC's 42,000 dollars to his 300,000 and cleared a million that way and makes some varied remarks about Vestige #2's take compared to #1. Ro retorts with that this isn't his dayjob and that he doesn't need this money. That Frog by contrast does need the money and that Comicsgate is failing now that he sold out WC for Dynamite. Frog replies with various speculations as to Ro's emotional state now that his rebellion did not turn out the way he would have liked. Ro repartees that CG is now on the downtrend and Frog will soon be divorced and homeless and penniless.

Ro is muted as Frog runs with his damage control-oriented retelling of events, that Kyle "has a big heart" with these flings and that the only person threatening to reveal these indiscretions was Ro and Warcampaign. Frog closes saying that their decision to reveal this in December 2020 is indicative of their deep dissatisfaction with the outcome of this past year and with that leaves. Unmuted, Ro reiterates that he doesn't need the money, what he is about and what WC was about is having a code and betraying his brothers' confidence, like with Ro's sick wife, is something he would never do. Oz idly asks if he considered Kyle Ritter one of his brothers, which Ro adeptly brushes off, describing Frog as a creature who thrives off the torment of others.

The other panelists are allowed to rejoin as Ro and Pan rail against the plight of Comicsgate customers being forced to buy slop like Starlight Cats now that Warcampaign isn't around to protect them. Testefy_HD also resumes against the remaining starts joining, quitting and rejoining the show, employing skirmish tactics against a numerically superior foe, demanding evidence proving Pan isn't on probation, proposing Pan tricked Nasser into self-sabotage, so on. This goes on for around an hour as the panelists start expressing their frustration and fatigue, Ro eventually opting to leave and spend time with his family. This stalemate is broken at 2:58:00 as Ryan "Wordnerd" Palmer joins to complain about Testefy and friends tagging Wordnerd's book publishing team in reply to his unmatched cringe memes and online smacktalk and that this was tantamount to cancelling him, speculating that these ops were orchestrated in between NAMBLA meetings for the Etsy boys. No concern over these claims was expressed by the others, but WordNerd insists that receipts be presented to the silence of everyone, even Berserk Guts.

At 3:13:00 Ryzie's ban from the Oz show for extreme racism is lifted after a duration of half an episode to have a go at Testefy as well. The proceeding hour of Ryzie vs Testefy goes much like how one would expect it would. Testefy brings up Liam striking his channel. Pan demands the clip be played of Pan stating to Frog that WC no longer wishes to associate with him, proving that WC chose to leave Comicsgate. The show careens into further chaos every minute Ryzie is on the panel and it's at four hours two minutes, when Berserk Guts is bemoaning who will be the "next Wenger" and Ryzie is breaking ranks to proclaim that Frog is needed as the "flagship" in the conflict against the SJWs when Frog rejoins the stream to announced that Berserk Guts is cancelled and that everyone on this show is a bunch of "mentally ill retards" who need to shut the fuck up because they're giving the world a headache. A rapproachment between Frog and Ryzie is in the works when at 4:06:11 this chat was helpfully highlighted by Oz:

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Frog says he had more success when Micah wasn't on is channel either so that makes them two of them. "Micah Curtis is an absolute charisma vacuum, a big blowhard, a big dummy who can't shut his mouth. Has to talk shit, has to say stuff, nobody cares. His comic books are horrible, he's an asshole. Y'know, he's always the first one to come into the streams; he was in the private room in the background so when I put a link into the guest room Micah Curtis was always the first one there with his balloon head. Nothing important to say and whenever he had anything to say it was about himself." JDA is noticed in the chat, to whom Frog pronounces he's cool with - all you have to do to be fine is "not be a fucking retard and try to cancel Razorfist". It's at this point that Micah Curtis kicks in the door with the intimidating warcry of "Okiedokie gents, let's have a chat" and asks what Frog's problem is. Frog starts to explain that Micah is the last person to come on board and has the worst takes on everything when he's met with a cloud of smuckling from Micah. Frog quickly reasserts control of the conversation on the many reasons he cannot stand Micah and he finally cannot take any more of him. Micah next asks what are all these lies about him trying to cancel Razorfist - they're simply not true. This is met by incredulity from the panel who all clearly remember this.

Micah continues, explaining to the unwashed that he merely was expressing his displeasure that Razorfist would choose to be published from such an unsavory white supreamcist like Vox Day, that such choices would reflect poorly on his future prospects and that is why he for one will not subscribe to his work anymore. Frog says Micah sounds like an SJW; Micah calls on Frog to be so darn sensitive. Donal and Nasser is discussed and Micah's scolding against Frog intervening. Micah vows that he's not going anywhere; Frog says he's definitely going away from him. This clarified, Micah takes his leave.

With Micah gone, Frog spends the newxt hour sharing his vision for where Comicsgate will be going in the year 2021 and his desire to put an end to the feuds involving himself and rehabilitating people he feels have promise like Nasser back into the movement, along with the many ways Nasser has already fallen short of that vision. Testefy joins a final time to talk again about his wrench on Frog's channel.

At the five hour mark Oz is ready to close the stream. remving the guests and placidly reciting old superchats - at this poin it's 4 in he morning for Oz and the man is ready for bed. It's here when Liam Gray plies his way onto the show through the chat. An exasperated, fatigued Oz notes it's 7 in the morning in Liam's timezone, but agrees to send him the link to join to he stream.

OZ: Welcome to the stream Liam. What can I do for you?

Liam: Wow! That was a marathon of a stream Oz, wasnt it? We learned a lot of things. Lot of interesting things I think. What do you think Oz? How was it for you?

Oz: Well yeah I mean I had a good time, I hope everyone else had a good time, ehrm, I think we made a few breakthroughs there.

Liam: Do you think its a good thing to do business with white nationalists and other radical groups like that, like Black Lives Matter and stuff like that. Is that something you would do?

Oz: Would I do business with someone that was a racist scumbag?

Liam: Yeah... yeah..

Oz: No I wouldn't, but I would say I do have Ryzie on my show. I just had Testefy on my show. You can't go too much lower in terms of like, human behavior...

Liam: Would you say that 'pedophile' was lower than maybe 'racist'? Would you - if you knew that there was something that was fiddling kids, or at least trying to, would you shield them? Would you shield them because they're just a useful attack dog for you?

Oz: No I probably wouldn't. What are you talking about here?

Liam: If you had, if you had all of the sudden, let's say that one of the... theoretical... We're all just playing pretend here, it's a roleplaying game guys, we're all nerds we like that stuff. Now let's say one of the fathers of one of these guys did an interview, a tell-all. Would that's something that you'd like to be aware of?

Oz: Liam you've got me at a... I mean, I have no idea what you're talking about.

Liam: What I'm saying is that if you were presented with evidence of this stuff, would you knowingly try to be willfully ignorant to, I dunno, try to pretend that you're ignorant of what's going on and that you have no idea what's going on even though you're intimately aware of what's going on? And spend every single day on Kiwi Farms, deeply invested in other people's business and how they do things.

Oz: Uh

Liam: Would you maybe stir up a retard that you could use to attack and drive out your competition or people who were meant to be your allies to try and keep your nose clean?

Oz: Do we know which people you're talking about?

Liam: Aw yeah I think we do. I think a lot of people could probably guess too. And I think there is a lot of stuff that is just waiting to come out. SO *claps* I just want to thank you for the wonderful show, and I do want to say... and I do want to say... and I do want to say one thing to Mister Van Sciver. To Mister Fucking Van Sciver... they pay Micah for his fucking work and you call him a dummy. It's okay not to like someone man, it's okay not to like someone. But don't act you're like a big fucking man and come in and throw your weight around on fucking Micah because he wants to be a good Christian man. It's weak. It's weak. And what you do is weak. You are a manipulator, Ethan van Sciver. You are a manipulator and you use people. And it's all going to come out and when people see what you really are Ethan... When the fact that you threw my friendship back in my face and you made it out like it was my fault, when you said to my face that you wanted to be friends. That you said that you wanted to help me... See this is what he does, he'll tell everyone this too. I just want everyone to know the sort of man that we're dealing with here. Before this shitstorm comes, because it's not going to be coming from me ladies and gentlemen, it's going to be coming from the mainstream media. So let's have fun with that.

Okay, so what he does is that he tells you "Yeah I'm gonna help you I'm gonna help you I'm gonna help you" and then you wait for the help or you say "hey will you help me out you said you were going to help me" and then he ghosts you. And then what happens is people get pissed off, and he pretends "I don't keep up with this, I don't know". He lies, he pretends. And then he'll have conversations about it in backrooms, he'll pretend he doesn't know what's going while he sends other people to attack smaller creators and fuck with their business "for the lolz". "For the lolz" to create content. And then, right, when you don't get the support that he promises he will give you he goes "Oh this is all about getting on my show, this is all about getting my platform. They're so jealous of me! They're jealous that I'm making more than them." It couldn't possibly to do with underhanded tactics, it couldn't have anything to do with the customers that were in Comicsgate were here because they believed in an ideal and a set of values. And I said I'm not cleaning up, when I went to him "Oh I don't know anything, I don't know anything about this. I don't know anything about other people's business! I'm such a delicate flower! I'm just a fuckin' poor little guy." Bullshit. Bullshit.

When I went to you about the Kyle thing and that this shit was going on and that it needed to be handled in a way, you knew nothing. You completely ignored it and not ten minutes you had Ro come to me and say "Hey, if you want to get on Ethan's show you don't go talking about this stuff. You don't go talking about this." You fucking joke Ethan. You're a fucking joke. And you might be the big dog, but I don't need you. No one else needs you and the way that you look the other way when you know the way TUG was treated and that other people was treated shows me you completely lack character, you lack faith and you are shielding people that are dirtier than anything in the mainstream while you are grifting people. And you should be ashamed of yourself for the way to you spoke to Micah Curtis. FUCK. YOU. Thank you Oz.

Oz: Uh, you're welcome... Liam is the hero we need but perhaps not the hero we deserve.

The stream then effectively end there, with 15 minutes of anxious rambling from Berserk Guts.
 
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So Kyle was in... indiscreet communication with TWO CG women?

Between this and TUG's wife sex chatting up Ro, it appears as though there might have been some sort of virtual harem for the elite of CG/WC. OnlyCGFans?



THE OZ SHOW #53

Today's Oz show began to an unpromising start; a no doubt heavily sedated Oz Art peacefully streamsniping NASA video footage of a rocket launch. The chat civilly assembles with the occasional Warcampaigner mingled with the chat, rumors of Panboy Soychild Donglover's reckoning with @Testefy_HD being whispered about. Oz voiced his displeasure that I no longer wrote up his show, that it was dismissed as the sewer of CG, I voiced my displeasure at there being little to write about then the repetitive sperging of two no-name drunks, but overall his demeanor was calm and genial as he welcomed the assembled to his show. At sixteen minutes in Oz finally broached the subject of what he wanted to talk about; lighting quick by Oz Art standards - the title of the stream being "A Dog Will Always Bite", a heavy-handed simile not only to the innately treacherous nature of Nasser Rabadi, the return of whom was strongly discouraged by Oz and the Australian Comicsgate division, but also to to Sketch Therapy losing his moderator wrench in Frog's chat, a great personal victory for Oz in his seemingly endless conflict with Sketch.

Normally, to get the rank and file in Comicsgate to feel genuine animosity towards someone they don't know takes a degree of orchestration and effort. Patient coordination over weeks in a carefully laid out gayop is usually required to get a Comicsgater to feel hatred against someone, to argue with determined disingenuousness that said person is a white nationalist or crowdfund embezzler or "traitor to the community". Not so regarding Sketch Therapy - absolutely zero prompting was needed to give the Comicsgate proletariat a sense of existential threat at Sketch being given any sort of power whatsoever. Deep down in their autistic bones, the CG proles knew that the only reason why Sketch hadn't lined them against the proverbial wall with a machinegun was lack of opportunity on Sketch's part. Unprompted, dozens of placid simps and JACK show fans protested Sketch's elevation daily, only to be met with Puerto Rican accusations of fellatio and threats of violence. The removal of Sketch's janny wrench was met with great relief from many Comicsgaters, and no doubt with Oz especially.

Unfortunately, it still it was too late as the chat got bored and sought bloodsports among themselves, loyal CGers like Orga777 taking swings at the unwelcome presence of Panboy, Frog janny, used underpants merchant and wandering lolcow Shiela Aliens/@H0stile taking on many slings arrows herself from the anti-prostitution wing of Comicsgate. Many Oz Show viewers also protested the temporary banning of regular guest Ryzie Lee for his profligate use of the word "nigger" and unnervingly sober (for Ryzie) articulating of his deepseated hatred of black people.

At twenty minutes in, overt WC member "Panboy Soychild Donglover" and covert WC member El Hombre are brought in by Oz and invited to say his piece. Pan is direct about his intentions for being here - he is calling out Etsy Boy/WC anathema Testefy_HD to face him. For context Testefy has previously stipulated that he will not face Panboy until the DMCA strike on his channel by Liam Gray is lifted. Panboy explains how other drama-scavenging programs than Oz's show, including Preston Poulter and DarkGift Comics, have offered their platforms to stage this debate only for Testefy to decline them all. Largely this part of the stream is Panboy giving backstory to the previous day's antics when mutual hater of Testefy Nasser Rabadi gave Pan the streamyard link to his platform while Testefy was on, shortly followed by Testefy vacating the stream (clip here). This was naturally followed by heavy invective on Panboy's part directed towards Testefy, a sentiment no doubt silently shared by his fellow panelists Oz and El Hombre. Panboy continues to call out Testefy, going through a list of clips and retorts directed towards the absent Etsy.

This goes on for some while until 35 minutes in when Testefy arrives to demand documented evidence of him stating he will contact the district attorney prosecuting Mat Hanson/Panboy's cyberstalking trial and he will wait in the back room until Panboy provides it. Panboy directs Oz to a twitter account that definitely isn't his new one (his old account being flagged into oblivion by Testefy), yet he possesses categorical knowledge of what the account has posted and how to find it. Oz show regular and oaf "Berserk Guts" is also brought onto the show, presumably as additional anti-Testefy backup but at this stage mostly just giggles approvingly whenever Pan says something against his Etsy opponent.

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Testefy returns at the 37 minute mark when this is posted, saying that this is not him stating he contacted the prosecuting attorney in Pan's court case, saying that he got this information from Pan streaming his court case documentation on D-Live. As one does. The dialog between Pan and Testefy is largely loud demands of the other party to prove various things about each other. Panboy challenges "Kiwi spergs" to prove he is on probation. The panelists drift aimlessly for a while on a variety of topics; Berserk Guts posturing to Panboy that he "went easy on cheatch because of his Warcampaign logo", Antonio Brice's beef with Captain Chokeout ,the fulfillment of Xenotype and celebrating the apparent self-immolation of Nasser for his impudence against his sponsor Frog. MAN OF S3X shows up for some amiable conversation about the release of various WC correspondence with Frog (outlined here by @Smug Frieza) and that Warcampaign isn't going anywhere despite what Frog says; MOS says he is a customer and customers can't be cancelled and probably some other gay sentiments as well that I'm going to go ahead and skip.

It's at an hour where Berserk Guts bleats something about "Wenger being cancelled" which Pan starts to Now, WC hated Aldrake, publicly laughed at Wenger's self-removal from CG and despised him for siding with CG and blocking them, but such minor details can be put aside for now. That done with the following half hour is a more uneventful, freeform digression as Pan extols the continued existence, power and relevance of Warcampaign despite claims to the contrary by Frog as Berserk Guts vents his anxieties and worries about Mike S Miller, Nasser, Reignbow Brute, Comicsgate drama as a sort of open air therapy.

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Warcampaign 1,0 and 2.0 leaders Ro Kabir and cheatch respectively join at the the 1:30:30 mark, the former quickly seizing the reigns of the stream and directing them back on track towards the subject of the released DM where Jon Malin was revealed as the whistleblower behind Faggotgate. Ro asks Oz how does it make him feel that Frog can't trust people like Jon Malin or TUG. Oz says it makes him sad that Frog apparently can't trust people close to him, like Ro and Pan as well as Jon and TUG. Ro continues his questioning of Oz and asks about the women, "these women that are blackmailing him because they have sexually inappropriate conduct with Kyle [Ritter]"", adding that he has audio recordings of Mandy Summers claiming to possess videos of Ritter masturbating and threatening to use them if she doesn't get her way. Berserk Guts proclaims "That's blackmail, dude!". Ro states his deep disgust with the Comicsgate community and that, in this sordid morass of Comicsgate thottery and blackmail, the final straw that broke his desire to be in Comicsgate was the experience of having to stream with Adam Friended on New Years. This part I related to.

Ro then tells the story of how he and Warcampaign strove endlessly for Comicsgate unity and how he discretely and privately petitioned Frog to put an end to the blackmailing of this disabled simp by Mandy in return for a free cover for Wart the Wizard and promotion on Frog's channel. Alas, his pleas fell on deaf ears. Offhandedly he mentions other female Comicsgate creators who blackmailed the hapless Ritter as well, a virtual blackmail cottage industry going on outside the public eye. Cheatch, bored of listening to other people talk, uses the dramatic pause to cut Ro off so he can start trashtalking Jon Malin for interrupting Billy Tucci's war stories and adds "fuck Michigan". Ro tries to reassert the show's topic but cheatch doesn't make this easy for him as he uses the twin powers of high mic gain and talking over everyone else until Oz intervenes in Ro's favor by muting the leader of Warcampaign 2.0. It's at this point an offer is made from the chat.

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Oz accedes to Frog's terms and the rest of the panelists (including cheatch) were cleared out for a one-on-one between Frog and Ro. Ro opens by stating his disappointment in what Comicsgate turned out to be as opposed to what he wanted; a true alternative to the comics mainstream. That's why WC made Vestige and promoted books after all. Frog joins the stream and questions the innocence of this show so far and of Ro and his feelings of being a disillusioned man phoning in from work to air out the behind scenes sexual histories of Comicsgaters. Ro says Frog sold him and his people out to get rich quick with Dynamite. Frog attempts to returns to the subject of Ritter, challenging Ro to disclose all his evidence but the latter says Frog should concern himself with his own business, that his audience is dwindling and asks why Reignbow Brute didn't crack a million dollars. Frog ventures that maybe if he let WC continue to harass people in Comicsgate then they would have been able to add WC's 42,000 dollars to his 300,000 and cleared a million that way and makes some varied remarks about Vestige #2's take compared to #1. Ro retorts with that this isn't his dayjob and that he doesn't need this money. That Frog by contrast does need the money and that Comicsgate is failing now that he sold out WC for Dynamite. Frog replies with various speculations as to Ro's emotional state now that his rebellion did not turn out the way he would have liked. Ro repartees that CG is now on the downtrend and Frog will soon be divorced and homeless and penniless.

Ro is muted as Frog runs with his damage control-oriented retelling of events, that Kyle "has a big heart" with these flings and that the only person threatening to reveal these indiscretions was Ro and Warcampaign. Frog closes saying that their decision to reveal this in December 2020 is indicative of their deep dissatisfaction with the outcome of this past year and with that leaves. Unmuted, Ro reiterates that he doesn't need the money, what he is about and what WC was about is having a code and betraying his brothers' confidence, like with Ro's sick wife, is something he would never do. Oz idly asks if he considered Kyle Ritter one of his brothers, which Ro adeptly brushes off, describing Frog as a creature who thrives off the torment of others.

The other panelists are allowed to rejoin as Ro and Pan rail against the plight of Comicsgate customers being forced to buy slop like Starlight Cats now that Warcampaign isn't around to protect them. Testefy_HD also resumes against the remaining starts joining, quitting and rejoining the show, employing skirmish tactics against a numerically superior foe, demanding evidence proving Pan isn't on probation, proposing Pan tricked Nasser into self-sabotage, so on. This goes on for around an hour as the panelists start expressing their frustration and fatigue, Ro eventually opting to leave and spend time with his family. This stalemate is broken at 2:58:00 as Ryan "Wordnerd" Palmer joins to complain about Testefy and friends tagging Wordnerd's book publishing team in reply to his unmatched cringe memes and online smacktalk and that this was tantamount to cancelling him, speculating that these ops were orchestrated in between NAMBLA meetings for the Etsy boys. No concern over these claims was expressed by the others, but WordNerd insists that receipts be presented to the silence of everyone, even Berserk Guts.

At 3:13:00 Ryzie's ban from the Oz show for extreme racism is lifted after a duration of half an episode to have a go at Testefy as well. The proceeding hour of Ryzie vs Testefy goes much like how one would expect it would. Testefy brings up Liam striking his channel. Pan demands the clip be played of Pan stating to Frog that WC no longer wishes to associate with him, proving that WC chose to leave Comicsgate. The show careens into further chaos every minute Ryzie is on the panel and it's at four hours two minutes, when Berserk Guts is bemoaning who will be the "next Wenger" and Ryzie is breaking ranks to proclaim that Frog is needed as the "flagship" in the conflict against the SJWs when Frog rejoins the stream to announced that Berserk Guts is cancelled and that everyone on this show is a bunch of "mentally ill retards" who need to shut the fuck up because they're giving the world a headache. A rapproachment between Frog and Ryzie is in the works when at 4:06:11 this chat was helpfully highlighted by Oz:

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Frog says he had more success when Micah wasn't on is channel either so that makes them two of them. "Micah Curtis is an absolute charisma vacuum, a big blowhard, a big dummy who can't shut his mouth. Has to talk shit, has to say stuff, nobody cares. His comic books are horrible, he's an asshole. Y'know, he's always the first one to come into the streams; he was in the private room in the background so when I put a link into the guest room Micah Curtis was always the first one there with his balloon head. Nothing important to say and whenever he had anything to say it was about himself." JDA is noticed in the chat, to whom Frog pronounces he's cool with - all you have to do to be fine is "not be a fucking retard and try to cancel Razorfist". It's at this point that Micah Curtis kicks in the door with the intimidating warcry of "Okiedokie gents, let's have a chat" and asks what Frog's problem is. Frog starts to explain that Micah is the last person to come on board and has the worst takes on everything when he's met with a cloud of smuckling from Micah. Frog quickly reasserts control of the conversation on the many reasons he cannot stand Micah and he finally cannot take any more of him. Micah next asks what are all these lies about him trying to cancel Razorfist - they're simply not true. This is met by incredulity from the panel who all clearly remember this.

Micah continues, explaining to the unwashed that he merely was expressing his displeasure that Razorfist would choose to be published from such an unsavory white supreamcist like Vox Day, that such choices would reflect poorly on his future prospects and that is why he for one will not subscribe to his work anymore. Frog says Micah sounds like an SJW; Micah calls on Frog to be so darn sensitive. Donal and Nasser is discussed and Micah's scolding against Frog intervening. Micah vows that he's not going anywhere; Frog says he's definitely going away from him. This clarified, Micah takes his leave.

With Micah gone, Frog spends the newxt hour sharing his vision for where Comicsgate will be going in the year 2021 and his desire to put an end to the feuds involving himself and rehabilitating people he feels have promise like Nasser back into the movement and the many ways Nasser has already fallen short of that vision. Testefy joins a final time to talk again about his wrench on Frog's channel.

At the five hour mark Oz is ready to close the stream. remving the guests and placidly reciting old superchats - at this poin it's 4 in he morning for Oz and the man is ready for bed. It's here when Liam Gray plies his way onto the show through the chat. An exasperated, fatigued Oz notes it's 7 in the morning in Liam's timezone, but agrees to send him the link to join to he stream.



The stream then effectively end there, with 15 minutes of anxious rambling from Berserk Guts.

That was one whale of a livestream! Captain Dongs has thankfully speared it all the way through and brought it into to town and processed it. We now have enough oil to keep the lanterns lit for another month.

It's too bad Ro is such a damn sleezeball and Liam is such an out-of-control maniac, because there are good points to be made. They've glommed onto Sciverfraud's true self but far too late and only after taking every advantage from riding his coattails and doing his dirty work for him. Crocodile tears in rain.
 
Sitting through that maelstrom of a stream just reaffirms my agreement with @Mister Dongs previous assertion that WarCampaign was essentially a deliberate containment zone for the more unsavory elements of ComicsGate. Ro knew this, which is why he's adopted a hands-off, zero accountability approach in regards to his followers. He's bitter because he imagined that when the bubble burst he would land among the pantheon with Cecil and Malin and instead he found himself thrust into his own muck and demoted to a caretaker of retards.
 
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