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Continuing on from @Mister Dongs previous fantastic write up of the train wreck of the recent Oz Show #53 I present the clip of what is being referred to as Liam's after credits appearance, which Mister Dongs very painstakingly transcribed.
Below is the stream time stamped if viewers wish to see the chat in real time react to Liam's appearance.
And the clip for prosperity.
The segment of Liam's appearance has a lot to unpack and appears to be directed at Ethan and was prompted by how Liam perceived Ethan treated Micah Curtis earlier on the stream. I'd like to thank Mister Dongs in advance for transcribing the conversation to make it easier to analyze and dissect Liam's statements.
Liam here most obviously appears to be insinuating that someone associated with Comicsgate is a pedophile, while serving as a useful attack dog and that they are being shielded. Liam's basis for this belief is because he is aware of a tell all interview that was done by this individuals father. When pressed by Oz and the chat for further information, Liam remains cryptic and doesn't reveal anything of substance.
From the above two quotes it becomes clear Liam is talking about Ethan and his relationship with Sketch Therapy and comes across completely unhinged. Liam begrudges Frog for spending time on Kiwi Farms, which is hypocritical considering Liam himself also has an account and now his own thread thanks to his own behavior. In defense of Ethan he doesn't really spend much time on the farms getting involved in other peoples business, rather he promotes his own which has been colloquially referred to as "peacocking."
The true motive for Liam's rant comes out, he is clearly upset Ethan didn't want to be his friend. Perhaps he also expected Ethan to help him more with promotion of his book Xenotype, which did remarkably well for a first time crowdfund but seems to have not measured up to Liam's own self imposed standard for success.
Here Liam threatens Ethan that the mainstream media will be reporting on him and Comicsgate, which is stupid unless Micah Curtis himself plans on writing an article on Russia Today. Most the mainstream comics media has ceased to write about Comicsgate since all it did was provide free publicity and boost the profiles of it's prominent figures.
Ironically this sounds exactly like Preston Poulter's recollection of events when he originally approached Ethan and Comicsgate for their support on his respective comic titles. I wonder if Liam is aware that he is now employing Poulteresque talking points.
In the final quote Liam proclaims that he was also aware of the recent scandalous allegations of possible sexual impropriety between Kyle Ritter and Mandy Summers as previously alluded to earlier in the stream by Ro Kabir and that he approached Ethan about it. Liam also claims that he was told by Ro Kabir not to talk about this kind of stuff, which is understandable since both Kyle and Mandy Summers are both consenting adults and why would Ethan care about eithers sex life?
Liam himself is notoriously stupid and as previously theorized by more observant kiwi's in this thread was always used as a useful idiot for the dissemination of information that others didn't want attached to them, most notably TUG and Warcampaign. It's clear from the recent uptick of Warcampaigners returning as both guests and viewers in Oz and Liam's streams that he has once again returned to his traditional role of a manipulated patsy and someone is clearly pulling his strings.
Which brings us to our most recent news update continuing in this saga, once again Ro Kabir has released private DMs between him and Ethan as he previously promised on the Oz Show.
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The private correspondence is even weaker that the previous drop, once again going over old news everyone already knew about. Ro Kabir had already blown his load over revealing that Ethan and Dynamite had a contract together on twitter and various Dlive streams and seems perplexed why Ethan wouldn't want the gay op squad targeting a business partner that was also involved with Billy Tucci, Anna, Cecil and Art Thibert. Ro Kabir had also previously mentioned on a now deleted Dlive stream that Vestige 2 writer Gat Hanzo had also been approached for a potential writing gig on a Vampirella anthology book.
Why the retards at Warcampaign couldn't comprehend that attacking one of the only mainstream comic companies willing to work with you, provide printing and fulfillment and job opportunities was a bad move is beyond me.
Below is the stream time stamped if viewers wish to see the chat in real time react to Liam's appearance.
And the clip for prosperity.
The segment of Liam's appearance has a lot to unpack and appears to be directed at Ethan and was prompted by how Liam perceived Ethan treated Micah Curtis earlier on the stream. I'd like to thank Mister Dongs in advance for transcribing the conversation to make it easier to analyze and dissect Liam's statements.
Liam: Would you say that 'pedophile' was lower than maybe 'racist'? Would you - if you knew that there was something that was fiddling kids, or at least trying to, would you shield them? Would you shield them because they're just a useful attack dog for you?
Oz: No I probably wouldn't. What are you talking about here?
Liam: If you had, if you had all of the sudden, let's say that one of the... theoretical... We're all just playing pretend here, it's a roleplaying game guys, we're all nerds we like that stuff. Now let's say one of the fathers of one of these guys did an interview, a tell-all. Would that's something that you'd like to be aware of?
Liam here most obviously appears to be insinuating that someone associated with Comicsgate is a pedophile, while serving as a useful attack dog and that they are being shielded. Liam's basis for this belief is because he is aware of a tell all interview that was done by this individuals father. When pressed by Oz and the chat for further information, Liam remains cryptic and doesn't reveal anything of substance.
Liam: What I'm saying is that if you were presented with evidence of this stuff, would you knowingly try to be willfully ignorant to, I dunno, try to pretend that you're ignorant of what's going on and that you have no idea what's going on even though you're intimately aware of what's going on? And spend every single day on Kiwi Farms, deeply invested in other people's business and how they do things.
Liam: Would you maybe stir up a retard that you could use to attack and drive out your competition or people who were meant to be your allies to try and keep your nose clean?
From the above two quotes it becomes clear Liam is talking about Ethan and his relationship with Sketch Therapy and comes across completely unhinged. Liam begrudges Frog for spending time on Kiwi Farms, which is hypocritical considering Liam himself also has an account and now his own thread thanks to his own behavior. In defense of Ethan he doesn't really spend much time on the farms getting involved in other peoples business, rather he promotes his own which has been colloquially referred to as "peacocking."
It's weak. It's weak. And what you do is weak. You are a manipulator, Ethan van Sciver. You are a manipulator and you use people. And it's all going to come out and when people see what you really are Ethan... When the fact that you threw my friendship back in my face and you made it out like it was my fault, when you said to my face that you wanted to be friends. That you said that you wanted to help me...
The true motive for Liam's rant comes out, he is clearly upset Ethan didn't want to be his friend. Perhaps he also expected Ethan to help him more with promotion of his book Xenotype, which did remarkably well for a first time crowdfund but seems to have not measured up to Liam's own self imposed standard for success.
I just want everyone to know the sort of man that we're dealing with here. Before this shitstorm comes, because it's not going to be coming from me ladies and gentlemen, it's going to be coming from the mainstream media. So let's have fun with that.
Here Liam threatens Ethan that the mainstream media will be reporting on him and Comicsgate, which is stupid unless Micah Curtis himself plans on writing an article on Russia Today. Most the mainstream comics media has ceased to write about Comicsgate since all it did was provide free publicity and boost the profiles of it's prominent figures.
Okay, so what he does is that he tells you "Yeah I'm gonna help you I'm gonna help you I'm gonna help you" and then you wait for the help or you say "hey will you help me out you said you were going to help me" and then he ghosts you. And then what happens is people get pissed off, and he pretends "I don't keep up with this, I don't know". He lies, he pretends. And then he'll have conversations about it in backrooms, he'll pretend he doesn't know what's going while he sends other people to attack smaller creators and fuck with their business "for the lolz". "For the lolz" to create content. And then, right, when you don't get the support that he promises he will give you he goes "Oh this is all about getting on my show, this is all about getting my platform. They're so jealous of me! They're jealous that I'm making more than them."
Ironically this sounds exactly like Preston Poulter's recollection of events when he originally approached Ethan and Comicsgate for their support on his respective comic titles. I wonder if Liam is aware that he is now employing Poulteresque talking points.
When I went to you about the Kyle thing and that this shit was going on and that it needed to be handled in a way, you knew nothing. You completely ignored it and not ten minutes you had Ro come to me and say "Hey, if you want to get on Ethan's show you don't go talking about this stuff. You don't go talking about this." You fucking joke Ethan. You're a fucking joke.
In the final quote Liam proclaims that he was also aware of the recent scandalous allegations of possible sexual impropriety between Kyle Ritter and Mandy Summers as previously alluded to earlier in the stream by Ro Kabir and that he approached Ethan about it. Liam also claims that he was told by Ro Kabir not to talk about this kind of stuff, which is understandable since both Kyle and Mandy Summers are both consenting adults and why would Ethan care about eithers sex life?
Liam himself is notoriously stupid and as previously theorized by more observant kiwi's in this thread was always used as a useful idiot for the dissemination of information that others didn't want attached to them, most notably TUG and Warcampaign. It's clear from the recent uptick of Warcampaigners returning as both guests and viewers in Oz and Liam's streams that he has once again returned to his traditional role of a manipulated patsy and someone is clearly pulling his strings.
Which brings us to our most recent news update continuing in this saga, once again Ro Kabir has released private DMs between him and Ethan as he previously promised on the Oz Show.
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The private correspondence is even weaker that the previous drop, once again going over old news everyone already knew about. Ro Kabir had already blown his load over revealing that Ethan and Dynamite had a contract together on twitter and various Dlive streams and seems perplexed why Ethan wouldn't want the gay op squad targeting a business partner that was also involved with Billy Tucci, Anna, Cecil and Art Thibert. Ro Kabir had also previously mentioned on a now deleted Dlive stream that Vestige 2 writer Gat Hanzo had also been approached for a potential writing gig on a Vampirella anthology book.
Why the retards at Warcampaign couldn't comprehend that attacking one of the only mainstream comic companies willing to work with you, provide printing and fulfillment and job opportunities was a bad move is beyond me.
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