#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Unverified]

You've heard of my books right? I realise we both post here but apparently @NasserRabadi13 has "never heard of Commi3 Mark" either

Nope. Who's this?

Your book actually has one of the funniest bits of any CG book I've read. Getting me to laugh through comics isn't easy. Also, Krishna Kid looks sick and I'm hyped to back it.

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[FROG]

You worked with these people for almost thirty years and you don't care about them. Wow....

It's almost like you haven't been listening to me at all.

You're good with a strawman Dongs.

CG failed because it stalled and died as a "movement' sometime around 2019 or 2020. If it hadn't it would have grown. It didn't and now it's boutique sales of crowd funded comics to a few people who watch certain YouTube channels.

Starlight Scat is just an illustration of how far it is from 'Zach's vision'.


A few thousand people watching YouTube and buying glorified merch isn't 'saving comics'.


Ethan summed it up well enough in his latest Kiwi Farms CyberFrog ad above...


That's ComicsGate.

I'm not trying to "save comics." That's Liam Gray.

Fuck the mainstream comic book industry. It already took the poison voluntarily. They are beyond saving.

I'm trying to undo cancel culture and take power away from SJWs by making it possible for blacklisted comics pros to do comics. That's what ComicsGate is now, and it's so successful that a book about cats has made six figures.

 

[X Pac Heat]

What's it been? 5 years now? Not to mention 1400+ pages on the farms, and people are still thinking anyone cares about "saving" mainstream comics?

 

[jspit2.0]

It's almost like you haven't been listening to me at all.

I have, I just still sometimes marvel how someone can not care about people after knowing them for decades.

What's it been? 5 years now? Not to mention 1400+ pages on the farms, and people are still thinking anyone cares about "saving" mainstream comics?

I'm not trying to "save comics." That's Liam Gray.

Fuck the mainstream comic book industry. It already took the poison voluntarily. They are beyond saving.

I'm trying to undo cancel culture and take power away from SJWs by making it possible for blacklisted comics pros to do comics. That's what ComicsGate is now, and it's so successful that a book about cats has made six figures.

And here we go again.

I don't think anyone expects a group of twenty or thirty boomers cam whoring to save 'comix'.

But if you people want to act as if its crazy to have some care for the creations of Jack Kirby, Stan Lee, Frank Miller, Jim Steranko, and John Byrne than its your little circle jerk that is out of touch. Hundreds of Millions of people care about Batman and Spider-Man. There's nothing wrong with not being able to wave your hand and switch at the drop of a hat.

FYI, I personally don't give a fuck about Marvel, its been dead since Quesada's little coup in the 00's, and DC was dead to me in 2011 when it declared every story I ever read in universe non-canon.

I'll finish with this, I mocked the idea that mainstream pros don't have time to interact and entertain. I'll turn around and say even if Stan Lee had done LS, he wouldn't have made an ass of himself online like CG and its spergy, toxic hangers on have.

 

[NasserRabadi13]

$10,000 from 100 backers
or
$5,000 from 200 backers?

And is there a point where one outweighs the other?

$10,000 from 100 backers.

Bigger profit margin, and you will eventually get to those 200 backers the second campaign, if the first book's any good. Then it's $20,000 from 200 people.

Because I notice in CG that most of the focus is on dollar amount when it comes to measuring campaigns.

I think we care about the number of backers/followers/subs when we put out videos. That's where we care about getting the most people in, because that's more people to promote to. But when it comes to the campaign, the success is typically by the dollar amount raised, because that's more money you have to upgrade your book and make it better for everyone (square bound, or a chrome cover, etc), and the more that you can use to (in my case) hire an artist.

Looks like the Orange Shitstain strikes again. I have a feeling this is just the beginning..

Here we go...

I'm trying to undo cancel culture and take power away from SJWs by making it possible for blacklisted comics pros to do comics. That's what ComicsGate is now, and it's so successful that a book about cats has made six figures.

HELL YEAH

 

[Analog Devolved]

You're good with a strawman Dongs.

CG failed because it stalled and died as a "movement' sometime around 2019 or 2020. If it hadn't it would have grown. It didn't and now it's boutique sales of crowd funded comics to a few people who watch certain YouTube channels.

Starlight Scat is just an illustration of how far it is from 'Zach's vision'.


A few thousand people watching YouTube and buying glorified merch isn't 'saving comics'.


Ethan summed it up well enough in his latest Kiwi Farms CyberFrog ad above...


That's ComicsGate.

 

[Rupin]

I'll finish with this, I mocked the idea that mainstream pros don't have time to interact and entertain. I'll turn around and say even if Stan Lee had done LS, he wouldn't have made an ass of himself online like CG and its spergy, toxic hangers on have.

Do you think that Stan Lee would have sucked that sjw dick instead? Cuz thats the only other option thats profitable in this day and age

 

[jspit2.0]

Do you think that Stan Lee would have sucked that sjw dick instead? Cuz thats the only other option thats profitable in this day and age

Yes, except for the faggotry. That's more CGs thing.

Stan would have played the game. He did it with the Comics Code and Wertham.

Doesn't mean he would have capitulated entirely. But would he have slapped rainbow dildos on detractors faces, publicly attacked everyone who so much as meh'd in his direction, and generally escalated every conflict?

History says no.

 

[X Pac Heat]

Hundreds of Millions of people care about Batman and Spider-Man.

*in movies and cartoons, not in comics.

in comics it's more like tens of thousands, maybe.

also "Stan Lee wouldn't have done dildo memes!"

No, Stan Lee would have just stolen credit and profit from his partners probably, cashed out when the time was right, and then would have went on to coast on his name with appearances and weird projects like Stripperella.

Stan Lee would have done whatever he needed to do to make money, in the end.

 

[YesNoMaybe]

That did try to cancel Stan Lee in his last days, as I recall. Accused of groping nurses. When he was in a position where he couldn't defend himself. Another #MeToo grift.

 

[Dafuqisdis?]

That did try to cancel Stan Lee in his last days, as I recall. Accused of groping nurses. When he was in a position where he couldn't defend himself. Another #MeToo grift.

Yeah that was disgusting.

When people get old and demented they often lose their inhibitions and behave inappropriately. Any nurse that deals with these type of patients should know that but undoubtedly they smelled money. And the media reported it like he was some sort of pervert when in reality he was just very old and mentally compromised.

 

[Rupin]

Yeah that was disgusting.

When people get old and demented they often lose their inhibitions and behave inappropriately. Any nurse that deals with these type of patients should know that but undoubtedly they smelled money. And the media reported it like he was some sort of pervert when in reality he was just very old and mentally compromised.

then when he kicked the bucket they started to venerate him like they never tried to cancel him in the first place. Disgusting.

 

[Newman's Own]

I'm not trying to "save comics."

Exactly.

Strangely some people still choose not to believe you are.

You've got a thing that's working for you that used to be a movement to "save comics" be they indies or mainstream. I guess that's what's confusing people. They're still stuck in 2018 believing the hype.

That's on them not you at this point.

 

[Jub-Jub]

Can you faggots sperg about comic books in the comic book sperging thread? I want to laugh at retards.

You've got a thing that's working for you that used to be a movement to "save comics" be they indies or mainstream.

Anybody who truly believed that CG was going to save the comic industry is point blank retarded.

 

[NasserRabadi13]

That did try to cancel Stan Lee in his last days, as I recall. Accused of groping nurses. When he was in a position where he couldn't defend himself. Another #MeToo grift.

The dude couldn't even walk, his brain was jelly, he was practically dead, and they accused him of groping nurses. I bet he couldn't even grab a cup of water without somebody's assistance.

 

[Absurdity]

I have some questions: which is harder to do, saving the Comic Book Industry or winning the Culture War ? Why would anyone think Ethan is somehow more equipped to do the later rather than the former? His major defense now is that he only wants to make Cyberfrog comics (he never said I wanted to save "duh industry!"), but if that's really true he can't zoom out again and claim greater relevance and preach to anyone else like he did with G&G.

 

[The Bovinian Derivative]

I have some questions: which is harder to do, saving the Comic Book Industry or winning the Culture War ? Why would anyone think Ethan is somehow more equipped to do the later rather than the former? His major defense now is that he only wants to make Cyberfrog comics (he never said I wanted to save "duh industry!"), but if that's really true he can't zoom out again and claim greater relevance and preach to anyone else like he did with G&G.

He said in the post-synder cope stream, or alluded, that he wants to do his comic stuff and wants comics gate to be a place where ostracized creators can have the place to make their own work. "Winning the Culture War" should be about all the cultural groups standing by this principle.

At the end of the day I have no idea what true winning would look like besides standing on top a small hill shouting at huge burning mountain that "Look! We made it!"

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

He said in the post-synder cope stream, or alluded, that he wants to do his comic stuff and wants comics gate to be a place where ostracized creators can have the place to make their own work. "Winning the Culture War" should be about all the cultural groups standing by this principle.

At the end of the day I have no idea what true winning would look like besides standing on top a small hill shouting at huge burning mountain that "Look! We made it!"

There's no incentive to "win" the culture war now that so many have found a way to make money "fighting" it. It'll be with us until people stop caring and recognize it for what it is: just another grift.

 

[jspit2.0]

There's no incentive to "win" the culture war now that so many

Well, they think they have. Both Fandom Menace and CG are pyramids. Look at the sheer number of failed campaigns, of floundering channels.

The incentive would be if you were an actual 'culture warrior.' Someone who's motive to fight had nothing to do with clout or money but with conviction.

It'll be with us until people stop caring and recognize it for what it is: just another grift.

True. The sad thing is, I think a small percentage, maybe a third, are actual, true believers. They actually think they make a difference buying Cyberfrog or tuning in to Geeks and Gamers.

It feels like moving goal posts though, if you've paid attention for the, what? Four years this things been dragging on. They initially set out claiming to want to save the 'industry.' Then, as everyone on here saw, they now mock the very idea. Instead they were going to make great comics and set an example customer first! Now even that's fallen through. At this point its down to 'create a space were I can make money.'

But there is a reason Ethan, Tug, and company make culture war videos. Because they need to couch their stuff in it to sell it, by implying that buying their swag will stick it to the people they stream about.

 

[Mister Dongs]

It feels like moving goal posts though, if you've paid attention for the, what? Four years this things been dragging on. They initially set out claiming to want to save the 'industry.' Then, as everyone on here saw, they now mock the very idea. Instead they were going to make great comics and set an example customer first! Now even that's fallen through. At this point its down to 'create a space were I can make money.'

Sure does. First a boycott "to save the industry" was attempted; this only resulted with everyone being mass blocked, disregarded and no meaningful change achieved. Then there was some talk about only great comics being made, but this led into the problem of who enforces subjective standards like "what is great" and what is not and led to a lot of gayops and fighting as self-appointed standard enforcers went about it. Now CG is at a stage where responsibility is understood to fall upon the customer to use their own judgment to back whatever strikes them as good. Which, as a "consumer advocacy movement", is frankly how it always should have been in the first place.