#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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Thanks! There are three versions of the book, at different price points for eBay.

1. Softcover $25
2. Hardcover $50
3. Executive Hardcover: $150

I think we're doing okay at those prices. It's reprinted stuff, you know? I only had to write for it, and do a new cover. I don't need that much $$$ this time. It's producing NEW artwork that's expensive.

Tell Kyle Ritter to fix his shit. Being over a year late is approaching Mitch levels of fuckery. You should be embarrassed to have your label on a project that late.

This pretty much speaks for itself.
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Is there any possible way to make money with projects like the shit I snipped? Do the writers and artists treat it as kind of a loss-leader, in the sense that they're losing money (and know they're going to going in) just to get their names out there? Maybe my brain is thinking pre-internet, but I thought any kind of print run pretty much demands economies of scale to be feasible, that print on demand isn't there yet (including regular books, never mind when you're talking funny books).

@Smug Freiza[/USER] 's list of late projects]
PROJECT: FORSAKEN GODS COMIC
CREATOR: Fresher Luke
RAISED: $5,230 from 251 backers

PROJECT: SINS OF FAE - TOGETHER WE RISE
CREATOR: Buddy Lord
RAISED: $7,556 from 182 backers

PROJECT: STREET CHAMPION ROADWARRIOR DRAKE
CREATOR: Alazmat Films
RAISED: $4,307 from 86 backers

PROJECT: SOUL PACT 1 AND 2
CREATOR: No Sleep Press
RAISED: $1,837 from 90 backers

PROJECT: ELYSIAN FIELDS: THE PYRAMID GAMBIT
CREATOR: Michael Oden
RAISED: $8,055 from 144 backers

I look at this kind of thing and just feel like I'm not seeing something. Especially since #ComicsGate is supposed to be all about getting that filthy lucre.
 
Is there any possible way to make money with projects like the shit I snipped? Do the writers and artists treat it as kind of a loss-leader, in the sense that they're losing money (and know they're going to going in) just to get their names out there?

If the creator is a one man band they only need to sell around three copies at $25 +p&p to break even.

Obviously their time is money too but you know what I mean.
 
Tell Kyle Ritter to fix his shit. Being over a year late is approaching Mitch levels of fuckery. You should be embarrassed to have your label on a project that late.

This pretty much speaks for itself.
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You do know that he was working on several books at once right? Cyberfrog being one of them. That's why most of us gave him some leeway.

Cuz he had to put his book on the backburner to get those done.
 
So printing a relatively professional looking comic book is possible on a DIY basis? Or what amounts to such a thing? Interesting.

The cost of printing a single issue (not one of many but just one) is low enough that I'd happily pay that for a bespoke Xmas gift for a friend.

And I'm a cheap bastard

Edit printing just one is absurd obviously and depending on page counts you can get 8-12 copies for the price of that initial one.
 
Is there any possible way to make money with projects like the shit I snipped? Do the writers and artists treat it as kind of a loss-leader, in the sense that they're losing money (and know they're going to going in) just to get their names out there?
Your first comic isn't usually about money, usually you're just starting and trying to get your name out there. That was my plan with Stardust--I didn't think we'd hit $16,000, I was just praying for $3,000 or so just to get my name out there. A lot of first timers have that mindset. Sometimes you need to break even, or make no money, or go negative, before you begin to see money on future books.

It would be nice if your first comic made a profit, but that's not really the reality here. Not everybody can succeed right off the bat and have $15,000+ in funding. But what's also valuable is that they (hopefully) made a product and got it out there, and can begin building that trust. That's how I viewed ASYL--I didn't make anything (Vic made money), but I knew it was going to be a low funding book, and I knew it would be a way to build trust again with CG.
that print on demand isn't there yet (including regular books, never mind when you're talking funny books).
Disagree. I've bought plenty of POD novels and comic books, and they look like regularly printed books from regular printers. POD is great. I guarantee if I sent you one of my novels or one of @TheCosmicWarrior 's comics POD, you couldn't tell the difference from a book on the stands at a bookstore.
 
This pretty much speaks for itself.
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I think this is about Matt Gaetz but holy shit he can't read the situation or that clearly rhetorical question. But then again it should be no surprise to anyone that has seen how much literal cum is in Savage Dragon recently you would know Erik Larson has gone full coomer.
 
I guarantee if I sent you one of my novels or one of @TheCosmicWarrior 's comics POD, you couldn't tell the difference from a book on the stands at a bookstore.

Sounds like you don't use KDP?

Beware issues with Amazon KDP printing quality (Reddit link)
Hi all,

KDP printing quality has gone down hill, here are some issues many authors have experienced:

  • missing pages or chapters
  • half the book is upside down
  • half the book is mixed with another book
  • pages have been double printed
  • white pages with print only covering a small percentage of the page
  • for image book - huge white borders on some pages while the same book purchased on a different day has no white border issues.
  • dull black and colour ink on some books
These are just some issues reported.

The saddest part about all this is I've noticed some people leave bad reviews for the authors when it's not their fault at all. That is unfair and unacceptable and in fact embarrassing.

I've spoken to Amazon and they refuse to fix this quality issue. Instead they merely offer refunds while the mistake gets repeated over and over.

I think if enough authors made a noise, Amazon would be forced to act.
 
Tell Kyle Ritter to fix his shit. Being over a year late is approaching Mitch levels of fuckery. You should be embarrassed to have your label on a project that late.

This pretty much speaks for itself.
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Is this just a random burst of anger over a problem we fixed two months ago? I’ve already got STARBLADES handled.

Erik Larsen is insane.
 
Is this just a random burst of anger over a problem we fixed two months ago? I’ve already got STARBLADES handled.

Erik Larsen is insane.
I'm not angry, I have no dog in the fight I just came here to post Erik Larsen saying he dreams of fucking teenage girls. He's a typical SJW weirdo.

When our buy Smug Frieza reminded us about starblades I looked it up on IGG and burst out laughing. 15 months LATE and still in demand haha. Maybe you should worry about his -and by extension your- customers angry outbursts since they paid for a comic two years ago and still haven't received it and it's definitely not shipping anytime in the near future.

If you had unfucked yourself months ago you would have pulled the ALL CRAPS label off that flaming pile of dog shit and saved face. I'm not the one who looks like a clown who can't deliver a product, you and Kyle do.

Maybe if Kyle spent less time sending dick pics to TUG's wife and Mandy Summers and you spent less time behind the pizza parlour I'd be congratulating him instead of laughing at him. I know that retard is deaf but apparently he's blind too. Motherfucker must be a pinball wizard.
 
I'm not angry, I have no dog in the fight I just came here to post Erik Larsen saying he dreams of fucking teenage girls. He's a typical SJW weirdo.

When our buy Smug Frieza reminded us about starblades I looked it up on IGG and burst out laughing. 15 months LATE and still in demand haha. Maybe you should worry about his -and by extension your- customers angry outbursts since they paid for a comic two years ago and still haven't received it and it's definitely not shipping anytime in the near future.

If you had unfucked yourself months ago you would have pulled the ALL CRAPS label off that flaming pile of dog shit and saved face. I'm not the one who looks like a clown who can't deliver a product, you and Kyle do.

Maybe if Kyle spent less time sending dick pics to TUG's wife and Mandy Summers and you spent less time behind the pizza parlour I'd be congratulating him instead of laughing at him. I know that retard is deaf but apparently he's blind too. Motherfucker must be a pinball wizard.
You're not angry, you're just an anonymous a-logging retard who doesn't know what he's taking about, and just feels like fucking around on this beautiful Sabbath Day of our Christian Lord.

Everyone here knows that I just recently offered to publish STARBLADES two months ago for Kyle, who has had the thing completed since September, but stalled out for some reason. It wasn't going to be ALL CAPS, now it is.

I've contacted the backers and explained the situation, built the printfile, shopped for printers who can add foil embossed logos to the covers, found a printer, paid them, and sent them the files.

We're waiting for the books to come in. It'll be a few weeks. Then we're going to promptly fulfill this beautiful comic book. It's simply one of the best looking comics from CG ever.

Now stop fucking up this terrific thread with your 2019 tardcum bullshit.
 
You're not angry, you're just an anonymous a-logging retard who doesn't know what he's taking about, and just feels like fucking around on this beautiful Sabbath Day of our Christian Lord.

Everyone here knows that I just recently offered to publish STARBLADES two months ago for Kyle, who has had the thing completed since September, but stalled out for some reason. It wasn't going to be ALL CAPS, now it is.

I've contacted the backers and explained the situation, built the printfile, shopped for printers who can add foil embossed logos to the covers, found a printer, paid them, and sent them the files.

We're waiting for the books to come in. It'll be a few weeks. Then we're going to promptly fulfill this beautiful comic book. It's simply one of the best looking comics from CG ever.

Now stop fucking up this terrific thread with your 2019 tardcum bullshit.
Great! So you're standing next to Kyle at Chuck E Cheese telling him when to hit the paddles on the pinball machine.

Thanks for confirming Kyle is such an inept retard that he needed to you save him because he can't "hear" the backers yelling about why it takes two years + to draw a comic book in CG, but I can draw a page every few days lol.

You must be printing a bunch extra because it's still for sale. My warning to Ebay people is call your LCS and ask the manager if they know who "Kyle Ritter" is.

To save you time the answer is no, and no they don't want your shitty indy books. It's worth about 5 cents so that's how much your max bid should be.

You charged him money to save him, probably by cutting his pay for coloring to help him on taxes. Am I close? Of course I am.

As for Jesus, he is risen! Christ is alive and our lord and Savior is the key to eternal life. God Bless you Ethan and God bless Kyle.
 
I'm not angry, I have no dog in the fight I just came here to post Erik Larsen saying he dreams of fucking teenage girls. He's a typical SJW weirdo.

When our buy Smug Frieza reminded us about starblades I looked it up on IGG and burst out laughing. 15 months LATE and still in demand haha. Maybe you should worry about his -and by extension your- customers angry outbursts since they paid for a comic two years ago and still haven't received it and it's definitely not shipping anytime in the near future.

If you had unfucked yourself months ago you would have pulled the ALL CRAPS label off that flaming pile of dog shit and saved face. I'm not the one who looks like a clown who can't deliver a product, you and Kyle do.

Maybe if Kyle spent less time sending dick pics to TUG's wife and Mandy Summers and you spent less time behind the pizza parlour I'd be congratulating him instead of laughing at him. I know that retard is deaf but apparently he's blind too. Motherfucker must be a pinball wizard.
You're not angry, you're just an anonymous a-logging retard who doesn't know what he's taking about, and just feels like fucking around on this beautiful Sabbath Day of our Christian Lord.

Everyone here knows that I just recently offered to publish STARBLADES two months ago for Kyle, who has had the thing completed since September, but stalled out for some reason. It wasn't going to be ALL CAPS, now it is.

I've contacted the backers and explained the situation, built the printfile, shopped for printers who can add foil embossed logos to the covers, found a printer, paid them, and sent them the files.

We're waiting for the books to come in. It'll be a few weeks. Then we're going to promptly fulfill this beautiful comic book. It's simply one of the best looking comics from CG ever.

Now stop fucking up this terrific thread with your 2019 tardcum bullshit.

Stop being mad at Analog for making fun of your artist acting like a member of congress, be frustrated at Kyle for acting like a member of congress.

Remind him not to take candy from strangers and if a Russian woman on Facebook messages him, don't reply...

Oh, and @FROG, give this to Simple Zach before he makes another twitter video. It's actual data that helps his point to abandon Twitter...

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Basically Twitter has the same market share as Tiktok and if anything peaked in 2018 and slowly slid. 81% use YT, with a dramatic rise and Facebook has remained stable.

This doesn't mean he's right in how to use these platforms, but Twitter's reach is largely due to the disproportionate media journalist presence on the site.
 
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You do know that he was working on several books at once right? Cyberfrog being one of them. That's why most of us gave him some leeway.

Cuz he had to put his book on the backburner to get those done.
Putting his own backers on the "back burner" is only okay for EVS simps. Normal people want artists to get the book they paid for done and out instead of delaying it for months or years to chase other work.

Mitch fucked people by taking their money and putting the book on the back burner, Fernandez had a heart attack and took other work to pay his mortgage and he doesn't get a free pass. Kyle finished in September and never bothered to print and mail the book his backers were already waiting a year for. He sat on a completed book for 7 months.

Fuck Kyle if he can't be bothered to fulfill his obligations to his customers.

Kyle, who has had the thing completed since September, but stalled out for some reason.
That's a reason to be pissed at Kyle, not to give him a break.

Right now Kyle makes Donal "Cuck" Delay look like a fulfillment machine. At least about 12 people or so got their copies of Brutas.

How low is the bar that people are expected to wait an extra 7-9 months because Kyle "stalled out for some reason" with a finished book in hand?

ComicsGate is the spitting image of the dumpster fire it was created to criticize.

Just when you think CG couldn't get anymore pathetic.

:popcorn:
 
Putting his own backers on the "back burner" is only okay for EVS simps. Normal people want artists to get the book they paid for done and out instead of delaying it for months or years to chase other work.

Mitch fucked people by taking their money and putting the book on the back burner, Fernandez had a heart attack and took other work to pay his mortgage and he doesn't get a free pass. Kyle finished in September and never bothered to print and mail the book his backers were already waiting a year for. He sat on a completed book for 7 months.

Fuck Kyle if he can't be bothered to fulfill his obligations to his customers.


That's a reason to be pissed at Kyle, not to give him a break.

Right now Kyle makes Donal "Cuck" Delay look like a fulfillment machine. At least about 12 people or so got their copies of Brutas.

How low is the bar that people are expected to wait an extra 7-9 months because Kyle "stalled out for some reason" with a finished book in hand?

ComicsGate is the spitting image of the dumpster fire it was created to criticize.

Just when you think CG couldn't get anymore pathetic.

:popcorn:

Putting his own backers on the "back burner" is only okay for EVS simps. Normal people want artists to get the book they paid for done and out instead of delaying it for months or years to chase other work.

Mitch fucked people by taking their money and putting the book on the back burner, Fernandez had a heart attack and took other work to pay his mortgage and he doesn't get a free pass. Kyle finished in September and never bothered to print and mail the book his backers were already waiting a year for. He sat on a completed book for 7 months.

Fuck Kyle if he can't be bothered to fulfill his obligations to his customers.


That's a reason to be pissed at Kyle, not to give him a break.

Right now Kyle makes Donal "Cuck" Delay look like a fulfillment machine. At least about 12 people or so got their copies of Brutas.

How low is the bar that people are expected to wait an extra 7-9 months because Kyle "stalled out for some reason" with a finished book in hand?

ComicsGate is the spitting image of the dumpster fire it was created to criticize.

Just when you think CG couldn't get anymore pathetic.

:popcorn:

As much as I'd like to disagree with you, sitting on a completed book for seven months is kinda fucked up. So I will give you and Analog that one.
 
I didn't see this posted so here's something worth noting.

Remember Aubrey Sitterson? Remember he genuinely apologized for acting like a piece of shit about funny books last year? The unlikely redemption arc continues.

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A theme with both CG and anti-CG (or indie in general) is how much they muck around with fulfillment of the thing they got paid to make. Here we have a guy who used to be pissed off all the time and sold under 5,000 copies of GI Joe to just being happy to package and send what books he sells himself.

I found out through YaBoi's video and he's happy for him. And encourages everyone to do the same. And that Jawbreakers 3 is delayed due to some fulfillment nonsense (but he too is looking forward to fulfilling orders).
 
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