#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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June 2019 had one less shipping week than 2021 so actual increase is smaller. To me interesting thing is that DC didn't shrink at all in 2020 so we can probably say that they made correct decision in moving away from Diamond.

But Diamond seems to be recovering fine as well:

I meant to reply to this earlier, before the pages of sperging

MonthMoney ($m)Weighted PriceUnits soldWeeksSold/week
June 201926.344.26271428.5741567857.14
June 2021*40.164.758454736.8451690947.36
*estimates (which i don't believe as they previously indicated >150% sales during times when many comic stores couldn't open and goes against decades of data showing downward trends from the first issue, with the only spikes during milestones or ending)
So from my shitty math they've sold an extra ~123k copies per week.

Note, for example, that Venom is ten fucking dollars! Even assuming just a quarter of the estimated 282,000 sold to customers, their impact on revenue will be greater due to the greater price point. So your overall revenue can remain constant and not dip despite cuts to both retailers and titles.
Weighted price including the top 300 books always keeps that number useless. If my shitty math is correct (it's probably not) Weighted top 10 for June 2019 is $4.63 whereas June 2021 is $5.85. So ~$3.2m of the ~$11m increase (19-21) came from the top 10 price hikes.
Didn't that dude get a TV deal not too long ago?
He was so important to the process one of the main actors didn't even know who he was. Also i can't remember who it was, but didn't one of the idiots (maybe even Brian) try to dunk on CG by informing everyone they optioned to netflix for like ~$3k.
Well $3k...
 
meant to reply to this earlier, before the pages of sperging

MonthMoney ($m)Weighted PriceUnits soldWeeksSold/week
June 201926.344.26271428.5741567857.14
June 2021*40.164.758454736.8451690947.36
*estimates (which i don't believe as they previously indicated >150% sales during times when many comic stores couldn't open and goes against decades of data showing downward trends from the first issue, with the only spikes during milestones or ending)
So from my shitty math they've sold an extra ~123k copies per week.


Weighted price including the top 300 books always keeps that number useless. If my shitty math is correct (it's probably not) Weighted top 10 for June 2019 is $4.63 whereas June 2021 is $5.85. So ~$3.2m of the ~$11m increase (19-21) came from the top 10 price hikes.

He was so important to the process one of the main actors didn't even know who he was. Also i can't remember who it was, but didn't one of the idiots (maybe even Brian) try to dunk on CG by informing everyone they optioned to netflix for like ~$3k.
Well $3k...

I'm now taking a second look at this. One the one hand its counter intuitive and improbable. Which, naturally, leads me to scoff. Especially since JJM and others has a bad history of trying to make the comic industry look better in the last year or so.

But, there is a second option. I now am open that either the numbers are junk or, out of spite or a desire to appear busy, DC or Marvel might have 'sold' a bunch of comics to discount chains. If you have printers running why not give massive discounts to the level of cost+ some profit? We'd never know and then you charge a little bit more to comic book store saps still buying new comics?

Add to that that 2021 has an extra week and who knows.
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I still think the numbers are bullshit. But maybe its a more extreme version of overships.
 
Some goof paid Cecil $430 for this On EVS’s auction. I wonder if anyone ever pays this much money for any pieces on any of Mike’s auctions?

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I dunno, I enjoy a good bicker but in some ways it's saddening to see @FROG and @EGB still nursing their mutual resentments. Remember the good times guys? Remember 2018? Member!

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It's just lols.
A year or so ago I was miffed with the Methwin stuff then I put it into perspective, no one outside CG, anti-CG and a few of the comic pros care or even know any of this stuff exists.

CG doesn't have anything I want (apart from chuckles), and CG can't actually do anything to me.

I was momentarily frustrated as I imagine Mike was because we were coming from a position of reason and logic - and a fan club doesn't care about that it wants in group jokes and the object of its fixation.

Mile, Lim, and Ernst have decoupled there financial success from CG so even any imperative to explain or defend is meaningless. Mike will probably still get his buttons pushed by EVS because he's a heart on his sleeve guy, but he's positioned himself where nothing EVS does should matter at this point.

There is no prize or achievement from CG, and the inertia is fading for CG itself.

CG is a pyramid - it has room for one at the top 2-4 more at the 6-figures mark, and perhaps room for about 6-more to slog out a middle class income while droning through 5-hour livestreams.

There's no extra audience out there to me persuaded to pay $75 to receive a CG book a year later. The Fandom Menace/Anti-SJW channels don't need CG and don't appear to want to be coupled to it either.

Barring some mystery source of new backers CG has absolutely saturated Indiegogo and the market capacity.
 
But the thing is, I can list all sorts of factors that affected Frog's bottom line in the situation. For example, Cecil and Jon Malin are core parts of his youtube show, which generates him revenue. Anna's tens HUNDREDS of thousands of subscribers and fans would be less likely to patronize a movement or creator that condones abusing her, that too can be reduced to a matter of which choice is more profitable.
I mentioned most of these points myself. You must have missed that whilst building a strawman to knock down.

Yet you went ahead and said "WC was cancelled by Ethan because they attacked Dynamite" on the basis of being motivated by money.
As was the motivation. All the points you just made simply back up my point that it was money and not morality that was the motive for getting rid of WarCampaign. You seem Hell bent on proving me wrong by adding strength to my thesis. My point was that getting rid of WC was a pragmatic decision based on money and not getting rid of moral degenerates. Everything you've said backs me up.

Thank you, but why the hostility?

I ask on what basis can you prioritize that motive for Frog's actions over all the other profit-based motivations listed above.
I don't actually. I pointed to one very obvious reason because it appeared to be the straw that broke the camels back. I also mentioned Anna's sub count and it's value. Malin and Cecil's value as streaming sidekicks is well established and didn't bare mentioning, I thought, but thanks for strengthening my point by mentioning it.

I never said they were thrown out on grounds of moral turpitude,
I never said you did. I was disagreeing with Lonley Man who did say that when you decided to interject for reasons unknown and tell me I'm wrong while helping prove I'm right.

Thanks again.

My explanation was that Warcampaign for months of their own free will made decisions (such as rabble rouse over Dynamite's involvement in CG) that led to forcing a confrontation where Frog had to pick between them and the JACK show and them coming out on the losing end of a cost-benefit analysis.
None of this is incongruent with what I've said. In fact I agree with all of this. You should save argumentation for those whom you disagree with.

As you say, they overplayed their hand.
Exactly. Sometimes people's animus toward another party leads them to irrationally lash out for no good reason.

There's a lesson to be learned somewhere in that. ;)
 
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I meant to reply to this earlier, before the pages of sperging

MonthMoney ($m)Weighted PriceUnits soldWeeksSold/week
June 201926.344.26271428.5741567857.14
June 2021*40.164.758454736.8451690947.36
*estimates (which i don't believe as they previously indicated >150% sales during times when many comic stores couldn't open and goes against decades of data showing downward trends from the first issue, with the only spikes during milestones or ending)
So from my shitty math they've sold an extra ~123k copies per week.


Weighted price including the top 300 books always keeps that number useless. If my shitty math is correct (it's probably not) Weighted top 10 for June 2019 is $4.63 whereas June 2021 is $5.85. So ~$3.2m of the ~$11m increase (19-21) came from the top 10 price hikes.
Comics, as really most pop culture, is hits driven business. Venom did really good numbers so shit looks good. Spawn is also having that big expansion campaign currently that I think is likely going to collapse in next few months. Next month maybe there won't be any new big hits at all and things will look less good. For example, Bleeding Cool had an article few years ago that proclaimed 25% collapse or something like that when we had normal month compared to one of the biggest months in Diamond's entire history.
 
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I lol'd a bit

He's doing another one for tonight's (?) auction? It literally looks like something your nephew gives you to hang on the refrigerator. Wonder if it will sell? I'm assuming (hoping?) the whole thing is a joke I'm not plugged into.
Twitter - not worth archving, good lord.
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Looks like a corpse after dogs ate its face off. Is this NZ Farms or r/eyeblech?
 
Some goof paid Cecil $430 for this On EVS’s auction. I wonder if anyone ever pays this much money for any pieces on any of Mike’s auctions?

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Pathetic grifting from a confirmed clown. The only people gayer than Ethan and Cecil in this tardfest is the big brain paying over 400 bucks for what I would value as a $10 piece of "art". Cecil is not an artist, unless you mean scam artist then yeah.

I mentioned most of these points myself. You must have missed that whilst building a strawman to knock down.


As was the motivation. All the points you just made simply back up my point that it was money and not morality that was the motive for getting rid of WarCampaign. You seem Hell bent on proving me wrong by adding strength to my thesis. My point was that getting rid of WC was a pragmatic decision based on money and not getting rid of moral degenerates. Everything you've said backs me up.

Thank you, but why the hostility?


I don't actually. I pointed to one very obvious reason because it appeared to be the straw that broke the camels back. I also mentioned Anna's sub count and it's value. Malin and Cecil's value as streaming sidekicks is well established and didn't bare mentioning, I thought, but thanks for strengthening my point by mentioning it.


I never said you did. I was disagreeing with Lonley Man who did say that when you decided to interject for reasons unknown and tell me I'm wrong while helping prove I'm right.

Thanks again.


None of this is incongruent with what I've said. In fact I agree with all of this. You should save argumentation for those whom you disagree with.


Exactly. Sometimes people's animus toward another party leads them to irrationally lash out for no good reason.

There's a lesson to be learned somewhere in that. ;)
Why are you still sperging about WC? I'll sum the whole "downfall of WC" up real quick.

Ethans personal army chimped out, became a liability. Most of them got doxed lol, more chimp outs.
 
Has Liam made an Ody skin suit? He spent today's steam going on about further Xenotype stories and then suddenly Ody pops up makes one comment and disappears. Very suspect

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It appears a little drama has been unfolding on twitter which caught my attention and warranted further investigation, it would lead me down a rabbit hole of autism and degeneracy, which naturally I will now share with the thread. It would appear that the mainstream comic pro's aren't the only ones experiencing a potential #metoo crisis.

Get some coffee, smoke em if you've got em and get comfy kiwi's because this will be a long one.

SPERG WARS: EPISODE ONE - THE PHANTOM DEVIANT

It all began when I noticed Mecha McCheese and Crypto Comics having a disagreement on twitter.
So we have a few tweets and what appears to be a clip of this Darth Lunga admitting to some past indiscretions against women, either way my curiosity was peaked. In a separate thread, Darth Lunga joins Crypto Comics against Jedi Master Mecha McCheese.
So it would appear that Jedi Master McCheese and Darth Lunga have some history, namely Lunga banning McCheese for allegedly trolling Lunga's discord. McCheese however asserts that Lunga has a questionable past with women and is a known carpet bagger, trying to insert himself into Comicsgate™. While Crypto Comics declares that Mecha is not interested in comics and should "sHoW uS yOuR lOnGbOxEs!"

Of course as we all know, only a Sith deals in absolutes.

Sith Apprentice Crypto Comics and Master McCheese have been sparring via quote tweets for the past few hours, the battle rages on. Exiled @FROG acolyte Panboy Soychild Donglover makes a guest appearance!
At this point I was extremely invested, it appeared that Warcampaign had some history with this Darth Chungus aka: Darth lesbian and I had to learn more.

SPERG WARS: EPISODE TWO - ATTACK OF THE WARCAMPAIGNERS/THE FANDOM MENACE STRIKES BACK

After the events of the previous episode I was left with questions, questions that needed answers. Who was Darth Lunga? Were the allegations against him credible? Did Mecha McCheese ever reveal his long boxes? Too many questions dear kiwi's and not enough answers.

I began by looking into Darth Lunga, who at first appeared to be fantasy novelist, Star Wars Youtuber and known critic of The Fandom Menace and Comicsgate.
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Being such a critic he earned the ire of @FROG's former Praetorian Guard, the elite sperging force known only as Warcampaign. As the events in this episode largely take place during the pre-schism days of Comicsgate lore, keep that in mind as to why they are defending their former Caesar.

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The first streams I can find of Lunga's involvement come from known Fandom Menace critic Mad Max: The Mandolorian, now known as Geeks and Gamers Entertainment. A stream from January of this year stars Darth Lunga and none other than Comicsgate™ leader Preston Poulter.

In the stream Preston and Darth Lunga join Max in decrying Ethan VanSciver, Warcampaign and Comicsgate at large, I take this as Darth Lunga's first entry into the world of Comicsgate as a critic on the side of the rebel group known as "anti-Comicsgate/OG-CG/Comicsgate™".

Lunga appeared to have had some issues with other members of the critics of the Fandom Menace detailed in a stream below.

However his repeated criticism of Ethan, TFM, Warcampaign and Comicsgate soon put him in the sights of both Warcampaign and The Fandom Menace, who took him to task in the following thread and unearthed some compromising information.
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So now we have greater context for the clip of the video that McCheese shared before, I present it below and will allow Kiwi's to make their own mind up.

Saved for prosperity:
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After having his dirty laundry aired, eventually Lunga's abrasive personality and clashes with other members would lead to a falling out with his former friend and ally Mad Max, releasing a scathing video attacking his former friend for being too controversial and engaging in clickbait. The video titled "The Lies and Selfishness of Mad Max-Setting the Record Straight."

Max responded via twitter.
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Mad Max then released a response stream, revealing DMs and explaining his problem with Darth Lunga. The problems include Darth Lunga wanting to strike and flag his critics youtube channels something he refers to as "get Jarbo'd", other problems included him punching down on smaller creators and using Max to build his fanbase before throwing him under a bus to join with a separate fan group. This stream also features a random appearance of Mundane Matt himself in the chat, and Preston Poulter too.
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If your eye's are starting to glaze over with boredom at this completely autistic display from a bunch of literally who's then please spare a thought me for as I had to endure this shit. The TLDR on Darth Lunga appears to be that he is a bad friend, has questionable relationships with women, betrays his former allies, jumps from fan group to fan group in pursuit of money and clout, general un-trustworthiness and his defense of one Jason Ward (some Star Wars commentator, I don't know.)

Nothing really out of the ordinary for a bunch of on the fringe e-celebs, but this tale is not finished yet...

SPERG WARS: EPISODE 3 - THE REVENGE OF THE KIWI

It was about this time I was motivated to learn even more about Darth Lunga, the enigmatic larping Sith Lord who was on his rise to becoming an Intergalactic Emperor of the Internet. Unfortunately for our dear Sith Lord, there is already a larping Intergalactic Emperor of the Internet here on kiwifarms and Frieza doesn't suffer competition lightly.

So I did what all heroes do to Sith Lords, unmask and reveal them.

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Darth Daddy Lunga/ Darth Lunga/ G.A Lungaro/ Guiseppe Lungaro/ Gio Badalamenti /SirGio823/ The Grey Council
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Social Media:
Author:

Author Twitter: https://twitter.com/galungaro
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Author Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/pg/magicssouls/about/?ref=page_internal
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Author Website: http://galungaro.com/
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Author Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/galungaro/
Author Amazon Profile: https://www.amazon.com/G-A-Lungaro/e/B082WJS4T1/ref=dp_byline_cont_pop_ebooks_1
Blog: https://galungaro.blogspot.com/
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Kickstarter for his book: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/magicssouls/souls-of-magics-dawn-an-epic-fantasy-novel
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The Grey Council:
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/thegreycouncil
Twitch Channel: https://www.twitch.tv/darthdaddylunga/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/DarthLunga
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Nerd Reporter Profile: http://www.nerdreport.com/author/darth-lunga/
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Personal:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GiuseppeLungaro
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Partner/wife: https://www.facebook.com/amanda.murphy.77377

Emails:
giuseppelungaro@hotmail.com
azrael@magicsnight.com
pinoalcamese@gmail.com

Address: 2131 Ash St, APT B, Des Plaines, IL 60018
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It was about this time given the admissions of his former indiscretions against younger women, I figured I'd check his criminal history.
By now your are probably asking yourself, great so what is this guy guilty of? A little retail theft? Drink driving without a seat belt? Misdemeanor class R, whatever that is? Having way to many social media accounts? Who cares?

Well dear readers I've saved the best for last, while digging I kept coming across a strange domain name.

http:// www.oralbondage.com/
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Which suspiciously appeared to have all of its content nuked from orbit.
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It was the strangest thing and I didn't have much to go on, especially since the only thing linking the site to Darth Lunga was the nickname "Gio".
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Then to my delight I discovered while the content had been nuked, the links for the social media accounts were still active. So allow me to introduce you all to..

Gio Badalamenti /SirGio823/ Consensually Speaking With Gio/ Oralbondage.com
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Social Media:
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxRJqg5ic2eBX9XpyG1U5Yg/featured
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He launched a patreon for his website and podcasts:
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It's under review:
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Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com.au/SirGio823/
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Cosplay Album: https://www.pinterest.com.au/SirGio823/cosplay/
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Hentai Album: https://www.pinterest.com.au/SirGio823/random/
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Tumblr: https://www.tumblr.com/login?redirect_to=/blog/oral-bondage
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/accounts/login/?next=/consensuallyspeaking/
Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/consensuallyspeaking
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Email: consensuallyspeaking@gmail.com

Here's his old site oralbondage.com on the Wayback Machine
All of his former podcasts can be found here: https://lbry.tv/@xRJqg5ic2eBX9XpyG1U5Yg:2

Gio Badalamenti also is an active member within at least two KINK Communities.
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He also has his podcasts and interviews hosted on a number of other sites:
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He's even got fans in India on dodgy websites:
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And if you search for his SirGio823 username you get linked to two swinger/escort sites:
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Then more recently, you'll never guess who appeared as a guest on Preston Poulter's latest writers stream only mere days ago...
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Well that concludes the tale of Darth Lunga the Deviant for now. I've got the answers to the questions I was seeking but I'm now left with a new question. Given the allegations of comics pro's grooming girls, cock sucking behind pizza parlors in New Jersey, former cuck porn actors being indie writers and now this Gio character with a young girl fetish and skeletons in his closet, I'm forced to ask:

Is everyone in the comic book industry some kind of sexual deviant?

EDIT: I can't resize the video clip in the first spoiler since it was captured on a smart phone, just scroll past the dead space to continue the twitter exchange.
EDIT2: Forgot to add the consensuallyspeaking@gmail.com to the dox.
Bump because the Grey Council guy is on stream right now defending ILJ and refusing to read the Kiwi thread *AT ALL* due to being salty about getting doxed.
 
I'm glad other people are enjoying the experience of "Contrarian Lunga" for the first time.

After the doxpost, Lunga continued to hang out in Preston's orbit for a while on the basis of mutual support for perversion. This went on until the release of Demonatrix #1, which was a step too far for even Lunga's standards and led to a parting of ways. After that he formed a sort of weird love-hate relationship with the Etsies (who also disliked Preston) which is why his intro and Isidora campaign has a lot of Trash Compactor-affiliated content like Soy Rage and George Peter Gatsis' "Joe King" as well as Yonofui memes.

Nowadays Lunga can be occasionally found showing up on fringe Comicsgate streams that will have him like Nasser Rabadi and Well Read's, but is up front about not being Comicsgate himself and will sperg for hours about how cancel culture isn't real and that everyone else is a sheep if pressed on this issue.
 
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I'm glad other people are enjoying the experience of "Contrarian Lunga" for the first time.

After the doxpost, Lunga continued to hang out in Preston's orbit for a while on the basis of mutual support for perversion. This went on until the release of Demonatrix #1, which was a step too far for even Lunga's standards and led to a parting of ways. After that he formed a sort of weird love-hate relationship with the Etsies (who also disliked Preston) which is why his intro and Isidora campaign has a lot of Trash Compactor-affiliated content like Soy Rage and George Peter Gatsis' "Joe King" as well as Yonofui memes.

Nowadays Lunga can be occasionally found showing up on fringe Comicsgate streams that will have him like Nasser Rabadi and Well Read's, but is up front about not being Comicsgate himself and will sperg for hours about how cancel culture isn't real and that everyone else is a sheep if pressed on this issue.
I love how FAT LUNGA and Rei are now bringing the #FANDOMREJECT practices to Comicsgate.

That stream they did last night was embarrassing.
 
It is an appropriate penalty for not cultivating better judgement and taste.
Comics fucking suck now, and CG is the only entertaining aspect of it aside from watching someone like Jlongbone laugh at Gotham High or "I am not Starfire". Every one of your posts is bitter flavored, but its like you can't past the litmus test to know.

The people you're complaining about are given money because they are well liked, entertaining, and produce a product for sale.
People used to buy shit because they would trust a guy like Billy Mays to sell it to them. All it took was putting the product in the audiences hands to show them what Billy was saying about the product is true. That created a para-social relationship that made it easier for Billy to sell product as long as that product would maintain that relationship. Thats what the empire is built on. Charisma and delivery.

I don't even know who you are, and you're shitting on the most financially successful dude in Comicsgate, because his fans want to support him.
How do you explain that without the acidic content of your sentences?

As much as I hate Zack Snyder, i was pretty happy that the fans got a chance to see the movie they wanted. Mostly because i thought the whole point of entertainment was to entertain the audience. If your audience is already a fandom then you know they already want more of what you're doing.

If people have to pay extra premiums and wait for comic book creators to create and fulfill their obligations, they will. People spend a ton of money for things on ETSY.com that take a long time to be fulfilled. Why would comics be any different? Wire wrapped gems and herbal tinctures are niche too.
Yes comics are niche. That's something you, the SJWs, the flash in the pan MCU/DC fans, and the "comic pros" working for the big companies are learning again.

Comics were always niche, and the concept of making 10 to 100x the money off a movie adaptation or tv adaptation swallowed everything up.
I can't wait to see the next five years of what happens. What will you do if you're right? What will you do if you're wrong?

Either way it seems if you're a comic fan you lose. if you're right then CG falls apart and the comic industry is just a bunch of youth novels written by blue haired women angry at the patriarchy for oppressing them while paying them in exposure.
If you're wrong you look like a massive fool, crapping on the new rising business the same way that disbelievers of crypto watched their friends become rich by waiting on a bitcoin wallet to accrue value.

The funniest part is that someone like Cecil can come in and be a joke artist, and earn almost as much money in one auction as Mags Visaggio NEEDS from a gofundme, while *giving nothing in return*.

Let's get back to square one. The whole point of this is the industry is dead, the audience is niche, and CG is catering to them. End of.
 
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