Communists - That time when 100 million people died wasn't REAL communism, comrade

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

I'm surprised the red scare thing is still going strong. People should be much more worried about corporatocracy and the loss of the middle class.

''Communist takeover'' is not the direction any western country is moving.

We are moving towards a communist takeover, this was explained by Yuri Bezmenov. The KGB didn't spend their time trying to steal American weapons and secrets, they spent their resources on trying to subvert and infiltrate the west. And the KGB largely succeeded, they infiltrated universities and now these universities are teaching marxist propaganda based on critical theory. The left isn't playing around, if things continue as they are we will see communist revolution in our lifetimes. All these BLM people and progressives are just useful idiots, once the actual revolution starts they will be killed.

 

[jje100010001]

I'm surprised the red scare thing is still going strong. People should be much more worried about corporatocracy and the loss of the middle class.

''Communist takeover'' is not the direction any western country is moving.

Not so much a communist takeover, but more a transition towards a corporatist 'managed democracy'. Socialist policies are used as an aesthetic skin towards to lure in the unthinking and unwitting as frontline soldiers.

Both roads, communism or corporatism lead towards totalitarianism and the loss of freedoms.

 

[Stoneheart]

Not so much a communist takeover, but more a transition towards a corporatist 'managed democracy'. Socialist policies are used as an aesthetic skin towards that goal to lure in the unthinking and unwitting.

thats Called Fascism...

The only people who worry about Marxism are really wealthy people. They take their worry to the gated community.

Yes because poor people dont need food or free speech...

 

[Sweetpeaa]

We are moving towards a communist takeover, this was explained by Yuri Bezmenov. The KGB didn't spend their time trying to steal American weapons and secrets, they spent their resources on trying to subvert and infiltrate the west. And the KGB largely succeeded, they infiltrated universities and now these universities are teaching marxist propaganda based on critical theory. The left isn't playing around, if things continue as they are we will see communist revolution in our lifetimes. All these BLM people and progressives are just useful idiots, once the actual revolution starts they will be killed.

Marxism means the working class rise up and try to attack/overthrow the rich. When has this ''not'' happened? this is why there are gated communities, personal body guards etc. There has been class warfare for years. The prison industrial complex was partially created for this reason. To house the angry poor when they start acting up again. Marxist trajectories never get very far in the United States. There are many buffers. A few more riots and BLM members will be picking turnips in a chain gang.

 

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

Marxism means the working class rise up and try to attack/overthrow the rich. When has this ''not'' happened? this is why there are gated communities, personal body guards etc. There has been class warfare for years. The prison industrial complex was partially created for this reason. To house the angry poor when they start acting up again. Marxist trajectories never get very far in the United States. There are many buffers. A few more riots and BLM members will be picking turnips in a chain gang.

According to Yuri bezmenov, ex KGB agent, that doesn't matter because the population has already been demoralized. The people of the west can no longer distinguish fact from fiction, even conservatives are using leftist frame work. And note that there might not even be a communist revolution, Bezmenov gave two outcomes for our country, the first is that it succumbs to internal revolution and infighting, he didn't really state what type of revolution it would be. The second outcome is that we're invaded by a foreign power, but that;s unlikely, no country has the capacity to sail across the Atlantic and maintain control

 

[Stoneheart]

Marxism means the working class rise up and try to attack/overthrow the rich. When has this ''not'' happened?

Its not happening right now. the Workingclass is hiding at home waiting to get back to work after the china flu is gone.
we see the Lumpenproletariat rioting in the streets.

The prison industrial complex was partially created for this reason. To house the angry poor when they start acting up again.

Its to let Criminal and subhumans work for their cost of housing.
I dont understand why Marxists dont like the prison system. it keeps the blacks in work, just like Marx wanted it.

Marxist trajectories never get very far in the United States. There are many buffers. A few more riots and BLM members will be picking turnips in a chain gang.

the problem with Marxism in the US is that there arent any real Marxists around just a bunch of coal burners who like to Larp.
BLM has nothing to do with Marxism, Marx was very clear with his views on black people and other undesirables.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

The prison industrial complex is unfortunately necessary. I don't like people losing their freedom either and corps making a profit on it. But unfortunately ''you know who'' never seems to learn. They're fucked.

 

[king_tiktaalik]

Marxism means the working class rise up and try to attack/overthrow the rich.

Don't forget the "killing the rich" part.

And the "destroying all previous culture and history you can find" part.
And the "bulldozing churches" part.
And the "killing clergy members" part.
And the "killing any religious people you find" part.
And the "killing all of your political opponents" part.
And the "killing people who don't acquiesce to your demands" part.
And the "killing people who aren't extreme enough for the revolution" part.
And the "killing people who don't agree with you" part.
And the "killing anyone who you just don't like very much" part.

Huh, you know when you look at in practice, it kind of seems like Marxism really just boils down to killing everyone you don't like for increasingly flimsy reasons. I guess I can see why it's so popular.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

Just completely leaving ghetto blacks out of the equation entirely for a minute. I think if wages stay stagnant or are reduced another decade there will be some social upheaval amongst working people. Especially if the cost of living continues to exceed what even well educated people can make. Politicians need to start looking at and planning for this. Certain things do need to be addressed.

 

[Syaoran Li]

We are moving towards a communist takeover, this was explained by Yuri Bezmenov. The KGB didn't spend their time trying to steal American weapons and secrets, they spent their resources on trying to subvert and infiltrate the west. And the KGB largely succeeded, they infiltrated universities and now these universities are teaching marxist propaganda based on critical theory. The left isn't playing around, if things continue as they are we will see communist revolution in our lifetimes. All these BLM people and progressives are just useful idiots, once the actual revolution starts they will be killed.

The Left is gunning for blood and I do think 2020 is the year they've decided to make their move. But the real question is will they succeed? It's entirely possible that a communist revolution could happen...and then completely fall apart and fail.

The neoliberal corporatists are backing the Left partly due to the compromised academia and Silicon Valley and partly due to the fact the SJW's and your BLM and Antifa radicals are useful idiots that could likely be purged in the event of this grand takeover.

Really, the corporatists are backing all this BS because Biden is a dud and they're hyper-fixated on beating Trump this year and if November ends up going badly for the Democratic Party and their corporate masters, then the Woke Left will likely find themselves in the same boat the fundies were in once they stopped being useful for the neoconservatives back in the late 2000's.

If Trump wins a second term and the Democrats cannot take control of the Senate, then I think the corporate media will try to do a total 180 and the SJW's, BLM, Antifa, the DSA, and cancel culture will get the blame for why Trump and the GOP won in this hypothetical scenario.

I don't think it will be a rapid all at once thing where they castigate anything seen as "woke" and instead become edgy but I do think it will be a subtle and gradual shift where you don't even really notice it until the shift is nearly complete (unless you're paying extremely close attention like some autist)

It'd be almost like a reversed image of the transition from the "edgy" culture of the 90's and 2000's to the pretentious woke culture of today.

2020 is going to be a make or break year for the American far left and I think it has a 50/50 shot of either becoming a rerun of 1917 or becoming a rerun of 1991....

 

[Sweetpeaa]

The Left is gunning for blood and I do think 2020 is the year they've decided to make their move. But the real question is will they succeed? It's entirely possible that a communist revolution could happen...and then completely fall apart and fail.

The neoliberal corporatists are backing the Left partly due to the compromised academia and Silicon Valley and partly due to the fact the SJW's and your BLM and Antifa radicals are useful idiots that could likely be purged in the event of this grand takeover.

Really, the corporatists are backing all this BS because Biden is a dud and they're hyper-fixated on beating Trump this year and if November ends up going badly for the Democratic Party and their corporate masters, then the Woke Left will likely find themselves in the same boat the fundies were in once they stopped being useful for the neoconservatives back in the late 2000's.

If Trump wins a second term and the Democrats cannot take control of the Senate, then I think the corporate media will try to do a total 180 and the SJW's, BLM, Antifa, the DSA, and cancel culture will get the blame for why Trump and the GOP won in this hypothetical scenario.

I don't think it will be a rapid all at once thing where they castigate anything seen as "woke" and instead become edgy but I do think it will be a subtle and gradual shift where you don't even really notice it until the shift is nearly complete (unless you're paying extremely close attention like some autist)

It'd be almost like a reversed image of the transition from the "edgy" culture of the 90's and 2000's to the pretentious woke culture of today.

2020 is going to be a make or break year for the American far left and I think it has a 50/50 shot of either becoming a rerun of 1917 or becoming a rerun of 1991....

Remember who created the the prison industrial complex, welfare to work and gave the right circumstances for the dot.com boom to occur? Bill Clinton. Even if they vote for Bidden and he wins they aren't better off. BLM and SJW's, trans people are going to be just as poor, socially excluded and maybe even sitting in a jail cell (for certain blm members) in any future.

Also apart from the abortion laws last year, Donald Trump really hasn't succeeded in doing a neo-conservative ''culture change'' makeover in the United States like what was done in the 1980's.

 

[Syaoran Li]

Remember who created the the prison industrial complex, welfare to work and gave the right circumstances for the dot.com boom to occur? Bill Clinton. Even if they vote for Bidden and he wins they aren't better off. BLM and SJW's, trans people are going to be just as poor, socially excluded and maybe even sitting in a jail cell (for certain blm members) in any future.

Also apart from the abortion laws last year, Donald Trump really hasn't succeeded in doing a neo-conservative ''culture change'' makeover in the United States like what was done in the 1980's.

I don't know what abortion laws have to do with neocons (considering the neocons were typically opposed to abortion given their ties to the fundies/traditionalist faggots) but you are dead on the money with Bill Clinton

Hell, Biden himself was one of the main architects of the Clinton-era crime bills.

As for Trump's repealing the neocon laws, keep in mind he's only been in office for a little under four years and the GOP didn't even try to back him until after the Kavanaugh shitshow and the death of John McCain.

Rome wasn't built in a day and if Trump is going to get the ball rolling against the bigwigs, it will likely happen if he gets reelected since he won't have to worry about a reelection and the GOP will be far more likely to help him, even if it's for their own personal ends (sans the neocon diehards like Romney and Kristol)

 

[Sweetpeaa]

Riots still scare the hell of a lot of people to vote for who they think will be toughest on controlling bad behavior. Can't help but think the George Floyd thing was a cherry picked story. Part of the reason (part of it) why Trump was even to ascend so quickly from 2014 o wards politically was because of those pesky Ferguson riots.

 

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

The Left is gunning for blood and I do think 2020 is the year they've decided to make their move. But the real question is will they succeed? It's entirely possible that a communist revolution could happen...and then completely fall apart and fail.

The neoliberal corporatists are backing the Left partly due to the compromised academia and Silicon Valley and partly due to the fact the SJW's and your BLM and Antifa radicals are useful idiots that could likely be purged in the event of this grand takeover.

Really, the corporatists are backing all this BS because Biden is a dud and they're hyper-fixated on beating Trump this year and if November ends up going badly for the Democratic Party and their corporate masters, then the Woke Left will likely find themselves in the same boat the fundies were in once they stopped being useful for the neoconservatives back in the late 2000's.

If Trump wins a second term and the Democrats cannot take control of the Senate, then I think the corporate media will try to do a total 180 and the SJW's, BLM, Antifa, the DSA, and cancel culture will get the blame for why Trump and the GOP won in this hypothetical scenario.

I don't think it will be a rapid all at once thing where they castigate anything seen as "woke" and instead become edgy but I do think it will be a subtle and gradual shift where you don't even really notice it until the shift is nearly complete (unless you're paying extremely close attention like some autist)

It'd be almost like a reversed image of the transition from the "edgy" culture of the 90's and 2000's to the pretentious woke culture of today.

2020 is going to be a make or break year for the American far left and I think it has a 50/50 shot of either becoming a rerun of 1917 or becoming a rerun of 1991....

You're right, but revolutions don't come out of nowhere. While the radicals are causing trouble they will eventually be "silenced" because the government will placate them. But when a true crisis comes, like an economic collapse or war with Iran, they will take the opportunity to revolt, they will try to destabilize the society well enough to create conflict. They already had an opportunity to destabilize with the pandemic, but they were largely unsuccessful, even if their protests are going today.

The BLM protests spurred by the killing Floyd didn't have the potential to cause real trouble because the average person wasn't motivated to protest. There are only a limited number of things that can make the average person protest, the most common one being a shortage of food. But as we in yellow jacket protests the inefficiency of government can make people really angry, and I believe what will happen to create a "communist" revolution in America is the government passing stupid laws and raising taxes while they fail to provide basic necessities.

1917 and 1991 happened because the government sucked (but 1917 can be seen as the fault of the great war more than the Russian government), and a possible revolution might happen today because our governments suck.

 

[Doug_S1]

It seems everything short of violence should be employed against the reds.

Shatter the tech companies which censor dissent, defund the NGOs and universities who employ apparatchiks to openly promote neo-Stalinism, remove all tax privileges and exemptions from companies that require "diversity training" and other pseudo-scientific Marxist dribble.

Alternatively, shove all the blacks onto reservations with the Indians and call it "progress".

 

[Sweetpeaa]

It seems everything short of violence should be employed against the reds.

Shatter the tech companies which censor dissent, defund the NGOs and universities who employ apparatchiks to openly promote neo-Stalinism, remove all tax privileges and exemptions from companies that require "diversity training" and other pseudo-scientific Marxist dribble.

Alternatively, shove all the blacks onto reservations with the Indians and call it "progress".

It's hard to believe only 14% of the population could create so much trouble for one country. It's really shocking actually. So many controversies and policies oddly come back to blacks. I also believe there is a segment of people who call them selves progressives are actually really afraid of black people but go out of there way to appease them. If people didn't talk about George Floyd on their social media last month, they were threatened.

 

[Daughter of Cernunnos]

 

[NerdShamer]

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Unlike most communist countries, an political appointment in the U.S. lasts for two to eight years as opposed to most of your life.

And also, some salt on how great socialism is.

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

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I'm assuming they're not just a commie, but also a troon, so I genuinely hope they 41% themselves, as a tribute to 45. But only in minecraft, naturally.

 

[Lemmingwise]

the problem with Marxism in the US is that there arent any real Marxists around just a bunch of coal burners who like to Larp.
BLM has nothing to do with Marxism, Marx was very clear with his views on black people and other undesirables

This is putting the cart before the horse.

Like a number of ideologies, the goal of marxists may be ideological, but the people who wrote the scripture so to speak were just trying to weaponize support against states.

It has endless promises to the masses, which is why it has been popular and succesful.

It has never really fulfilled the promises, which is why it is a popular vehicle to drive in for the powerplayers.

When the marxists got to the US they were unable to weaponize this the way they could in the rest of the world. So instead they (succesfully) focused on race politics instead.

BLM is marxist in the sense that the drivers are the same people, those who laid the ideological ground are the same people, they have the same goals and they use comparable methods.

Breitbart figured it out and explains it better: