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http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/community-service.html

I guess I'm confused. While I understand that CWC has no interest in actually doing any community service, aren't there consequences for not performing it? Like, risking actual jail time for not performing it? Also, wasn't this part of a plea deal--and therefore something that Chris and Barb agreed to do at law?

Or, if that's too many thoughts, end it with one more: Is Chris really over 10/28/11, or is he potentially at risk of some troll deciding to go to court and shake a few bushes?
 
Blue Max said:
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/community-service.html

I guess I'm confused. While I understand that CWC has no interest in actually doing any community service, aren't there consequences for not performing it? Like, risking actual jail time for not performing it? Also, wasn't this part of a plea deal--and therefore something that Chris and Barb agreed to do at law?
Chris got out of it.

Blue Max said:
Or, if that's too many thoughts, end it with one more: Is Chris really over 10/28/11, or is he potentially at risk of some troll deciding to go to court and shake a few bushes?
Are you asking if Chris really doesn't care about the Oct 28 incident anymore? Until he finds a new enemy to obsess over (well, and Megan kinda fits that position), he won't be over it. But he's too afraid of the consequences to go back to the game place. He'll bitch from afar.

If you're asking if his legal troubles are over? They're not over yet, but I think he'll be done in a few months.
 
Marvin said:
Blue Max said:
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/community-service.html

I guess I'm confused. While I understand that CWC has no interest in actually doing any community service, aren't there consequences for not performing it? Like, risking actual jail time for not performing it? Also, wasn't this part of a plea deal--and therefore something that Chris and Barb agreed to do at law?
Chris got out of it.

Can you elaborate as to how? If it's sensitive information you'd rather not divulge I understand. But even in VA I can't imagine a probation officer or court official just saying, "eh, you've clearly got the 'tism, so just forget about that part of your sentence".
 
bbooooggaaooooggaa said:
Marvin said:
Blue Max said:
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/community-service.html

I guess I'm confused. While I understand that CWC has no interest in actually doing any community service, aren't there consequences for not performing it? Like, risking actual jail time for not performing it? Also, wasn't this part of a plea deal--and therefore something that Chris and Barb agreed to do at law?
Chris got out of it.

Can you elaborate as to how? If it's sensitive information you'd rather not divulge I understand. But even in VA I can't imagine a probation officer or court official just saying, "eh, you've clearly got the 'tism, so just forget about that part of your sentence".
It's not publicly known, so I can't say. But he did have a pretty great defense lawyer that he didn't have to pay much for.
 
That's too bad. It would have been good for him to have to do physical labor to pay for his crime. They didn't make him pick up garbage or pull weeds in the hot Virginia sun.

Well, he missed out on vidya money and had to be on probation for a year. He got off pretty light. I know on the old forum we talked about house arrest, which Barb more or less has him under now. Still, the worse punishment for Chris is being Chris.
 
GrandNumberOfPounds said:
That's too bad. It would have been good for him to have to do physical labor to pay for his crime. They didn't make him pick up garbage or pull weeds in the hot Virginia sun.

Well, he missed out on vidya money and had to be on probation for a year. He got off pretty light. I know on the old forum we talked about house arrest, which Barb more or less has him under now. Still, the worse punishment for Chris is being Chris.

Considering if he was arrested for a parole violation (which, knowing Chris and his respect for the law or its officers at this point, would have good odds in the last year) he stood to have to resubmit for his tugboat and would likely not qualify for it now? Barb's probably protecting their only source of income more than she's protecting him.
 
DarkMirrorHole said:
GrandNumberOfPounds said:
That's too bad. It would have been good for him to have to do physical labor to pay for his crime. They didn't make him pick up garbage or pull weeds in the hot Virginia sun.

Well, he missed out on vidya money and had to be on probation for a year. He got off pretty light. I know on the old forum we talked about house arrest, which Barb more or less has him under now. Still, the worse punishment for Chris is being Chris.

Considering if he was arrested for a parole violation (which, knowing Chris and his respect for the law or its officers at this point, would have good odds in the last year) he stood to have to resubmit for his tugboat and would likely not qualify for it now? Barb's probably protecting their only source of income more than she's protecting him.
Nah, it's pretty unlikely he'll violate his parole. There's a big difference between what Chris says and what Chris does. Chris talks a big game, but he's too much of a pussy to actually do anything to cops.

And Barb's not intentionally protecting either of them. She's hoarding Chris, like the other stuff she's got in the house.
 
Actually I think Barb isn't really protecting him as much as she's hoarding him. She's an emotionally needy and toxic person who wants Chris to be around her nearly all the time. Some have speculated she's grieving in an inappropriate way and doesn't want to be abandoned by the only person she hasn't pushed away.

I don't know what their income is like. Barb is retired which means she's probably on a pension and they might be getting Bob's pension through survivor benefits. Barb also qualifies for Social Security and probably gets it, as meager as it probably is.
 
GrandNumberOfPounds said:
Actually I think Barb isn't really protecting him as much as she's hoarding him. She's an emotionally needy and toxic person who wants Chris to be around her nearly all the time. Some have speculated she's grieving in an inappropriate way and doesn't want to be abandoned by the only person she hasn't pushed away.

I don't know what their income is like. Barb is retired which means she's probably on a pension and they might be getting Bob's pension through survivor benefits. Barb also qualifies for Social Security and probably gets it, as meager as it probably is.
Considering that they outright asked for money in Bob's obituary, I'm guessing that anything that comes in, however meager, is getting burned right through considering the pair's spending habits. So any extra they can get is what they'll grab for. But I can see what you and Marvin mean by her hoarding Chris, because at this point I wouldn't be surprised if she considers him just another possession to keep around the house.
 
GrandNumberOfPounds said:
Actually I think Barb isn't really protecting him as much as she's hoarding him. She's an emotionally needy and toxic person who wants Chris to be around her nearly all the time. Some have speculated she's grieving in an inappropriate way and doesn't want to be abandoned by the only person she hasn't pushed away.

I don't know what their income is like. Barb is retired which means she's probably on a pension and they might be getting Bob's pension through survivor benefits. Barb also qualifies for Social Security and probably gets it, as meager as it probably is.

If they both get a :tugboat: , then by living under the same roof they each are only getting half of what they could have been getting if they were on their own. So they may as well be living solely off of Chris' money.

If only Chris knew that if he moved out right now, he'd get more money every month because then their income would be upgraded to full amounts.

Again, Chris' fate of being trapped by Barb is a prison of his own making. He could apply for Section 8 right now and wait about a year for his name to reach the top of the list. There's nothing stopping him from walking out that door aside from his own stupidity and mental chains Barb has on him.

And that Chris always wants other people to do his bidding. If he steps out on his own, he's going to have to do things for himself (including shaking the turds out of his own :briefs: ), and I think that's what Chris hate/dreads most of all.
 
BurtyDrappedCreifs said:
Again, Chris' fate of being trapped by Barb is a prison of his own making. He could apply for Section 8 right now and wait about a year for his name to reach the top of the list. There's nothing stopping him from walking out that door aside from his own stupidity and mental chains Barb has on him.

And that Chris always wants other people to do his bidding. If he steps out on his own, he's going to have to do things for himself (including shaking the turds out of his own :briefs: ), and I think that's what Chris hate/dreads most of all.
I don't think it's quite so simple. If I've understood correctly from what I've gathered of Chris' latest posts and Marvin, Chris does actually want to leave the house more often than he does but he is actively held back by Barb who won't let him go out alone anymore.
 
^That is really sad, but true.

This really goes to show you what a selfish person Barb is that she is willing to ruin her son's chances at some modicum of freedom or happiness.
 
BurtyDrappedCreifs said:
If they both get a :tugboat: , then by living under the same roof they each are only getting half of what they could have been getting if they were on their own. So they may as well be living solely off of Chris' money.

I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure they get a lot more than that Barb paid enough social security whilst she was working to get her own pension, however, as Bob's widow she's entitled to switch to his pension instead. Bob paid in a lot more so his was higher and I imagine that is what Barb is doing. Chris's tugboat is SDI for a disabled adult-child which was based on the amount of pension Bob was entitled to. When Bob was alive Chris could have 50% of the pension amount and after his death that rose to 75%.

I worked it out before, and it's just a guess based on Chris's prior tugboat amount, but I reckon they get $2831 per month. As long as it's just pension and Chris's SDI that they get.
 
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