🐱 Conservatives flock to Parler—but its terms of service are just as strict at Twitter’s - “It’s a private business” etc

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Parler, a self-described anti-censorship social media platform, is growing in popularity among conservatives as an alternative to Twitter.


Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) on Thursday became Parler’s newest high-profile user and cited alleged political bias among the internet’s most prominent social media sites as his reason for joining.


“These are some of the most visited sites in the world. They’re run by left-wing Silicon Valley billionaires,” Cruz said on Twitter. “They have an unparalleled ability to shape what Americans see and hear and ultimately think. And they use that power to silence conservatives and promote their radical left-wing agenda.”

Parler bills itself as an “unbiased” service “which enables free expression without violence and a lack of censorship.”


Everyone from Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) to popular conservative commentator Dan Bongino have joined the site’s ranks in the past several days, prompted in part by Twitter taking action on President Donald Trump’s tweets.

But is Parler truly the bastion of free speech it claims to be?


That’s the question some are asking. A quick glance at Parler’s user agreement indicates the platform to be just as strict as any other.


For starters, Parler states that it reserves the right to delete any user’s content or entire profile at any time even if the terms of service have not been violated.


The site also explicitly bars the use of language or visuals “that describe or show sexual organs or activity.” Even content that is merely “sexual in nature” is listed as a violation. Likewise, any language or visuals deemed “morbid or degrading” are also prohibited.


Parler further states that it “never shares your personal data” while simultaneously noting that it “may share any information we receive with vendors and service providers.”


Even though platforms generally cannot be held liable for the content their users post under federal law, Parler lets its members know that they could end up footing the bill if the site is sued for something they post.

The Daily Dot reached out to Parler to inquire about its terms of service but did not receive a reply by publication time.


Another prominent user to recently join Parler is Logan Cook, formally known on Twitter as @CarpeDonktum.

Cook, a right-wing meme creator often retweeted by President Donald Trump, was permanently suspended from Twitter on Tuesday.


Conservatives cited the instance as yet another example of Twitter’s political bias. A Twitter spokesperson confirmed to the Daily Dot at the time that Cook’s removal was linked to a history of frequent copyright abuses.

While Cook has found a new home on Parler, the social media site also explicitly states that it will enforce copyright laws. Although Cook has argued that his creations are exempt due to fair use, it remains unclear how Parler will react to takedown notices.

Given its infancy, only time will tell whether Parler is able to fulfill its promise and bring users the free speech mecca they’re hoping for.
 
It doesn't do much good for conservatives if they all switch to the same echo chamber. It only marginalizes them, right when they need to reclaim a lot of lost ground. Ceding Twitter to the Left will only empower and embolden the Left more. Let's see Parler get 330 million users, and then maybe you'll have something. So far, they have about 1,000,000

Conservatives ought to stand their ground on Twitter as much as they can; it's a battle that probably can't be won, but at least they can make a righteous stand.
 
The no porn thing is going to be a massive deal breaker. It's like a fraction of a fraction of a fraction who gets into political shit fights on Twitter. A lot more people are just there to follow artists after Tumblr shit the bed

Not gonna complain about not allowing porn, tbh. First, thots be gone. Second, there are many other websites to publish porn, erotic, or lewds. Go there and leave us alone. If we want to watch it, will go there too.
 
It doesn't do much good for conservatives if they all switch to the same echo chamber. It only marginalizes them, right when they need to reclaim a lot of lost ground. Ceding Twitter to the Left will only empower and embolden the Left more. Let's see Parler get 330 million users, and then maybe you'll have something. So far, they have about 1,000,000

Conservatives ought to stand their ground on Twitter as much as they can; it's a battle that probably can't be won, but at least they can make a righteous stand.
I think diversifying is always a good choice, no need to put all one's eggs in one basket especially as Twitter slowly trends towards a trigger-happy ban model.

That being said, Parler needs to improve its feeds and compress each post, IMO.
 
It's been getting shilled hard in boomer conservative circles like Gab was, especially because a few actual politicians have announced they're using it. This has given it media attention few "alternative social media sites" get. It's also been attacked by the usual hit pieces from the media (from Newsweek to some no name site literally run by never trump cons) since it's had a few edgelords/fedposters sign up along with Laura "my tires got slashed" Loomer (thread here), who has become the media's scrapegoat.

It just screams dumpster fire in the making.
If it feels like the push for Parler came out of absolutely nowhere and looks much bigger than it really ought to be: It's because it is. The push isn't organic. Posts that are made on Parler cannot by accessed externally without moving past the login screen, so if you're not registered on the service, you have absolutely no access to whatever's going on inside of it.

Posts made on Parler are invisible to anyone in front of the login screen, they can't be searched through Google, and they can't be archived. It's a massive push towards a voluntary isolation months before an upcoming election, and if people wander into it and close the door behind them on all other outlets, they're effectively sealing themselves inside of an echo chamber to argue their points with people who all agreed with them in the first place.

Head over to Google and try to search for anything on the site, anything at all. Replace "query" with any word you like and you'll either get 0 results, or a page full of broken, meaningless formatting. Even the first result for " site:parler.com trump" is just... Nothing.

site:parler.com query

Also, all of this fucking horseshit down here probably isn't fucking good. If that red flag was any bigger, China would start getting jealous.
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So Gab, Parler, Minds etc. are just containment sites for conservatives.
For Gab and Minds I would say they have failed to reach a diverse audience as more free speech of a platform is only appealing to people who have had their speech surpressed. I've seen those services dismissed as "where you go if you were banned from x," which is kind of a fucked up way of looking at it but nonetheless.. For Parler it just is suspicious as fuck, from how they do business, to the TOS down to the damn name if you pronounce it incorrectly as 'parlor' instead of 'parlay.' I would not group all of 'alt tech' in with Parler, though. That just makes any much needed alternative to a mainstream platform sound like it is also a gay op. Not the case.
 
I tried using minds as it's pretty hard to figure put how to use. Parler would not let me sign for it. And didn't bother with gab. However gab has been almost on its last legs now so the containment argument is out the window.
Gab's dissenter was kind of fun when it was new. I don't have it on my current machine so can't speak to it now and it is too 'opt-in' to see mainstream success, but it is a good idea.
 
First off, “Parler” is a really dumb name because I get the idea that it’s supposed to be pronounced “parlay” like in French but everyone is just gonna pronounce it “parlor” because that’s what it looks like. Parlé would make a much better name because it’s immediately obvious as to how it’s supposed to be pronounced for anyone who took a middle school French/Spanish class, and because accents are cool.

Second, this shit will NEVER overtake Twitter. I believe it was our own dear and now departed leader who posited that any platform whose only pitch is being a “free speech” alternative to an existing platform will inevitably be populated almost entirely by actual eno-nazi’s and far-right nut jobs because they offer nothing of value to normies over existing platforms.

The problem isn't that it will be overrun by the far right, though that *did* happen with Gab absorbing Twitter's castoffs. Parler's been around for years, so less of a problem there, but as @It's HK-47 was nice enough to show you, the same stupidity will likely be present.

The problem is that literally every alternative will be tarred as a rightist/Nazi/etc front, evidence notwithstanding. If they can't find some dumbass who will post endlessly about how much he hates blacks using the n-word (with hard Rs), they'll just make a sock to do it, take screenshots, and then in the 12 seconds it takes the post to get banned, claim it represents the site. How many cows on this very fucking website have we caught doing this? I lost count around a dozen or so.

They stopped caring about facts and indeed, reality years ago. Even if every single thing they complain about is outright banned in the terms of service, if it so much as allows a single deviation from their talking points, it will immediately get accused, just like the same assholes repeatedly accuse Twitter's Jack of being a Nazi while he bends the knee to their every fucking demand.

You have two choices right now, barring government intervention in the big platforms (which may happen, but won't solve the problem, they'll only mitigate it): Either make a site that will endure the slings and arrows of literally endless bad press and attempts to get your site defunded/shut down (which, financially, they have every incentive to do because the big Social Media giants are run by complete bumblefucks and have barely turned a profit in ages). or somehow set it up in a fashion where it literally cannot be somehow interdicted, and since the latter option, courtesy of payment processing, effectively does not exist, you have exactly one way to do it, and that's moving forward and giving zero fucks.

If you know a better option, share it, because I'm almost entirely sure there is not one.
 
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The problem isn't that it will be overrun by the far right, though that *did* happen with Gab absorbing Twitter's castoffs. Parler's been around for years, so less of a problem there, but as @It's HK-47 was nice enough to show you, the same stupidity will likely be present.

The problem is that literally every alternative will be tarred as a rightist/Nazi/etc front, evidence notwithstanding. If they can't find some dumbass who will post endlessly about how much he hates blacks using the n-word (with hard Rs), they'll just make a sock to do it, take screenshots, and then in the 12 seconds it takes the post to get banned, claim it represents the site. How many cows on this very fucking website have we caught doing this? I lost count around a dozen or so.

They stopped caring about facts and indeed, reality years ago. Even if every single thing they complain about is outright banned in the terms of service, if it so much as allows a single deviation from their talking points, it will immediately get accused, just like the same assholes repeatedly accuse Twitter's Jack of being a Nazi while he bends the knee to their every fucking demand.

You have two choices right now, barring government intervention in the big platforms (which may happen, but won't solve the problem, they'll only mitigate it): Either make a site that will endure the slings and arrows of literally endless bad press and attempts to get your site defunded/shut down (which, financially, they have every incentive to do because the big Social Media giants are run by complete bumblefucks and have barely turned a profit in ages). or somehow set it up in a fashion where it literally cannot be somehow interdicted, and since the latter option, courtesy of payment processing, effectively does not exist, you have exactly one way to do it, and that's moving forward and giving zero fucks.

If you know a better option, share it, because I'm almost entirely sure there is not one.
There's no point in waiting for an alternative. One won't be coming because it can't survive in the current climate. There won't be a competitor for Twitter because they're too big and they're propped up by too many companies and special interest groups that have installed an entire political cult at the helm. Anyone who pops up to threaten this choke-hold that these various companies have over the public sphere and public discourse will be ripped to pieces, sooner or later.

It is literally impossible to build a bottom-up competitor in this environment, it is a waste of time. It will be destroyed.

The only thing that can fix this, I agree, is that new regulations have to be put in place to shackle down the mega-companies in their current state to prevent them from being hyper-aggressive monopolies long enough for competitors to play catch-up, the fortification of Section 230 so that politicians in the future can't fuck with it and companies won't need to worry about it, and at the core of everything: Every legal transaction needs to be permitted.

The fork in the road right now for the entirety of society is, "Are you allowed to spend or acquire money, or do you have the wrong ideas?" Depending on how we answer that question, we're either going to be in an awful lot of trouble, or we're going to be alright. Either way, we're well past the days where we can all pretend like someone is going to come out of their garage-basement with the brand, new competitor for YouTube or Facebook or Twitter and shut them all down the same way that MySpace was gutted by Facebook. Myspace wasn't even 1% as "powerful" as Facebook has become; it's not going to happen.

The only way forward is to bunker down in these shit-holes and force landmark cases and regulations. Even if we jumped over a rainbow, won the lottery, found a pot of gold and a four-leaf clover and a competitor somehow managed to rise up from this: What makes anyone think that they won't do the exact, same fucking thing if there's no obstacles in their way to prevent it from happening? In order to destroy Frankenstein's Monster you're going to create Frankenstein's Monster? What the fuck kind of plan would that be?
 
Doesn't really matter whether it's Conservative or Liberal, social media is still retarded and thinking that it'll have any real positive effect on your life is stupid.

Why can't Social Media in general just disappear?



If Trump wins 2020, I forsee it disappearing as we know it.

There's antitrust actions on the horizon, the 230 revocation threat, and, if Trump wins in a landslide, then just like CHAZ the revolutionaries aren't going to back a loser, if they can't influence the masses to reject the Nazi in Chief through 4 years of coordinated bans and bots and censoring of "problematic" topics that JUST HAPPEN to be major election issues, having blown millions to do it, it'll collapse like one of these protest movements.

The high degree of shenanigans all of social media has pulled to "correct" the 2016 result in 2020 was the "burn the neighborhood" stage of thier collapse, they blew their wad, the revolution didn't come, and now we're at the "arrests and prosecutions" phase and the higher ups are disavowing and DFE'ing in a race to beat the warrants and discovery motions they know are coming.




Not gonna complain about not allowing porn, tbh. First, thots be gone. Second, there are many other websites to publish porn, erotic, or lewds. Go there and leave us alone. If we want to watch it, will go there too.

Yep.

Banning porn AFTER allowing it is a deal-breaker, because you'll instantly cut off a big piece of your audience and there's no way to positively spin the sudden loss of %30 of the userbase, even if it was all thots, simps, horndogs, diry old men, camwhores, and automated Slavic bots.

Having no-porn baked in from the start means that group never gets a foothold to start with.
 
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Paradigm shifts have to occur, regarding the state of social medi,a and times are turbulent enough to where they will. It won't disappear but it will change, and probably for the better.
 
First off, “Parler” is a really dumb name because I get the idea that it’s supposed to be pronounced “parlay” like in French but everyone is just gonna pronounce it “parlor” because that’s what it looks like. Parlé would make a much better name because it’s immediately obvious as to how it’s supposed to be pronounced for anyone who took a middle school French/Spanish class, and because accents are cool.

Second, this shit will NEVER overtake Twitter. I believe it was our own dear and now departed leader who posited that any platform whose only pitch is being a “free speech” alternative to an existing platform will inevitably be populated almost entirely by actual eno-nazi’s and far-right nut jobs because they offer nothing of value to normies over existing platforms.

Oh? I thought they were just too dumb/fake edgy to spell "parlor". :lol:

Wasn't there another Twitter clone called Minds or something like that? How did that one fare?
 
So the big takeaway I'm seeing is that Parler won't let you curse or post naughty bits which is a dealbreaker for many who won't admit it. (That's what's killing tumblr and what's plaguing twitter along with manipulated trends and kpop fags) Maybe they'll change their policy if they get more members?

When have you ever seen a websites rules change for the better? Especially with an influx of normies. However good it was before Ted Cruz signed up is as good as it was ever going to be.
 
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