Did I miss something? I think the hard proof of this should be put in the thread so that this isn't just hearsay.
Yeah, this really seems like the absolute easiest W turned into a somewhat big controversy by not just putting out a legal notice saying "Cease and desist because you fucking stole source code", rather than just "cease and desist, OK bye"
Didn't this happen before with another mod for a different Valve game too? TF2 if I remember but I could be wrong.
You might be thinking of TF: Source 2, which was DMCA'd by Valve because it was made via s&box, an entirely separate game created by Garry Newman (creator of Garry's Mod / Rust).
Maybe Valve knows that the truth always comes out eventually, and communicating is like talking after being given Miranda warning. It can always come back to bite you in the ass, so the best thing to do is not talk at all. It has done wonders for them so far (with a few hiccoughs).
Maybe, but I sense it's all part of a slow growing industry wide cynicism. That said, Valve in particular has always seemed embarrassed and increasingly tired about it's own reputation and those of its fans, and they make no secret of the fact they prefer engaging with their customers as little as possible. They seem pretty sick of games now, and do the bare minimum - because it works. As far as greed's concerned, I've seen CS:GO 2 players and streamers urge Valve to protect the value of their skin economy even as the updates dry up. Gabe Newell is a believer in product obsolesce and I'm sure he's not pleased with how long CS:GO's popularity has lasted.
Yeah, a team used the leaked TF2 source code to essentially open-source TF2.
I'm retarded. I tested CO and it does not require CS:GO in order to run, it is indeed a full redistribution of the game. I completely misunderstood it.
Valve should've niggermarked all of its assets and sourcecode and we wouldn't even be having this issue.
How hard is it to be transparent and NOT use leaked stuff and then lie about it??
Every tf2 mod team in existence started off using leaked/stolen code. Most used the 2008 codebase that was leaked in 2012. They all tended to avoid using the 2016 codebase that was leaked in 2020, though I am willing to bet some teams did in fact peruse the 2016 code and used bits of it for bug fixes.Yeah, a team used the leaked TF2 source code to essentially open-source TF2.
Which of course was all in vain the second Valve did it themselves
Honestly, considering how utter shite the modding APIs are for source games, I don't blame them in the slightest. The only thing that's halfway decent is hammer, but even that is painfully outdated compared to just Godot, let alone the commercial softwares out there.
Use Hammer++ then, it's way better than normal Hammer. Has ingame lighting preview mode for the 3D viewport which means no more changing lights, recompiling map, testing it ingame, going back to change lights again, recompiling the map again, testing again, rinse and repeat.
Based and C&Ds pilled, anything to get these NEET retards out there an touch grass. Moders today are just leeches. Untalented morons who want to LARP game dev not actually do game dev, using an already existing game because it already has a userbase that they want to milk. It's the kikes of the gaming world.
>caring about intellectual property
The thing that'd make Zool a fag is him supposedly lying about it for years, lying to Valve about it for the same amount of time, and then lying to the entire Valve community about it and trying to start a smear campaign under clear false pretenses after he explicitly broke the existing agreement they had for an extended period of time. This is not an argument about/for the sanctity of intellectual property or copyright law.