COVID retrospective - What a wild time that was!

There's still some completely insane people freaking out about it constantly. They all have "long covid" and can't walk for 5 minutes allegedly but can spend all fucking day on twitter bitching about it.

This woman is particularly insane:



Even has all the died suddenly schizophrenia but from the opposite perspective. Every single death is covid.

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Not sure how you let yourself get to this point.
 
New York for instance doesn't normally have to dig mass graves.

New York City has actually been burying indigent people in mass graves on Hart Island for a century - Archived 2020 Time article

Hart Island is a graveyard of last resort. Since 1869, New York City has owned and operated this potter’s field—the largest in the country. City workers put unidentified or unclaimed corpses in simple wooden coffins, load them onto a ferry and entomb them in trenches across the island. The homeless, indigent and stillborn all lie within eyesight of the hyper-kinetic, high-rolling inhabitants of the Manhattan skyscrapers across the water. “Hart Island is like a shadow of New York City,” says Justin von Bujdoss, 45, the cemetery’s chaplain. “It reflects the lives of people who live on the margins—the homeless, the sickly, the neglected, the forgotten and overworked.” Over a century and a half, more than a million people have been buried in unmarked graves on the island, including from past epidemics like tuberculosis, the 1918 flu and AIDS.
 
twitter banning discussion of a lab leak, then the lab leak turning out to be probably truth, and people STILL not being about to admit they are wrong, that might be my personal highlight.
Covid cost me dearly. It damaged my career and it stopped me seeing family, and there are a lot of people who will no longer speak to me and that hurts.
same but imo things are so clearly going to get worse it felt like some amount of separation was inevitable. at least in my life. the zealot only sees value in others based on how much they agree. a person like that never really saw you as a whole individual to begin with. your purpose was to reflect their opinions back in a positive light.
 
Covid really traumatized me, I lost my job, family and friends showed their true colors, I tried to tell them it wasn't a big deal and I was ostracized for simply suggesting. It showed me that everything I had could be taken away on a whim, that it's all just play money and nothing I do really matters. I suppose in a way that's freeing to hear but scary at the same time. Eventually everyone came around to see it wasn't a big deal and I just decided to forgive, life's too short.
 
Yet there were excess people dying early on in the pandemic. What was that? Was it just ripping through the most vulnerable?
Partly yes. We’d had a few very mild flu years in the uk. To be brutal, that leaves you with a large cohort of very vulnerable elderly who are going to die in the next five years of something, and covid was it, or neglect. When a novel virus spills over into humans and it’s a respiration like this that’s what you’d expect it to do - scythe through, take out those very fragile elderly.
It can’t be whole story though. What was so odd about covid was that it left some people totally asymptomatic and others very sick. There is a huge amount of variation in the human immune system genetically - some people are almost totally immune to noro for example (I’m one of them) while other will go down with it with minimal exposure. The fact that some people got very sick is a combo of that fragile elderly cohort, and people with a genetic susceptibility who had never encountered it before and who also had specific comorbidities. It seems to have hit people with obesity and certain issues harder but even that’s not universal.
Then there's the issue of were treatments completely fucked up early on? Remember ventilators? I've read the odd thing here and there that they were actually killing people. Where's the investigation? They clearly stopped using them.
Ventilators were the wrong choice, but at the start it seemed like they were right. Very quickly people began to notice that the issue wasn’t mechanical it was more about how it affects heamoglobin - if you search for ‘methylene blue’ on this site you’ll find the bit of the covid thread we talked about this.
Did ivermectin work?
Yes, in specific scenarios. It was very effective as a prophylactic (preventing infection) or right at the start of infection. Less so at the mid and end. If we’d have put every elderly care home resident on a low dose of ivermectin we’d have saved countless lives.
What was all that stuff early on of people dropping dead in the streets in China? Was that all fake?
That is something I don’t know. A few possibilities. 1. China shows you what it wants to see. 2. Hysteria. 3. They didn’t know what they were dealing with and it could have been bad. I suspect that 3 is most likely - more than one thing leaked from that lab. When you research stuff like this you don’t have one strain in the lab. You have hundreds, and all the substrains you’ve created by tinkering. At the start they didn’t know what had got out. Maybe more than one strain did. It’s also certain for me that at the start, it had a higher mortality rate but that seems to have dropped very quickly. I had coof in feb/mar 2020 and I felt like shit. Huge fever, tachycardia, weird tingling in limbs. I had it again in 2022 and it was ‘oh, is this another flu the kids brought home from school of covid?’

Why were things like vitamin D and being healthy ignored from advice?
A mix of malice and stupidity. But mainly malice.
A proper ‘post mortem’ public enquiry would be the ideal here, but it will never happen.
 
On the medical side, three times as many died from heart problems/cancer - and still do - as from the coof. Personally, have had open-heart, three spinal surgeries, and cancer, plus the coof. Of all these, the coof caused me the least amount of aggro.

The biggest damage came on the societal side. In way too many places, "elected officials" became despots. "If you want to know a person's character, give them power." Even worse, the vast majority of these despots used the "rules for thee, but not for me" mode of rule, and publicly flaunted it. Whether "they" realize it or not, they have largely fucked themselves when the next national calamity hits, as it always does. The overly oppressive measures forced on people due to the coof have resulted in a total lack of faith and trust in government, law enforcement, the judiicary, the media, and 'science' at ANY level. Remember 'six feet'? That was a political decision - sneezes go much further than six feet. Masks? Worthless. Ya, wore my mask when and where I had to, and my mask said "This mask is useless." My life is rather different than most others here. Don't go out much, hang around home, shop little. Was able to do the little needed. Son had to move because he couldn't work, back now.

The next time something happens, 'they' will be surprised at the extent many, if not most people either ignore what they say, find ways to work around what they ask, or simply not comply. We were getting there when things lightened up all of a sudden; the judiciary finally woke up and realized how badly people's rights had been trampled and now people were just telling TPTB to fuck off. People, least the intelligent ones, now know the government/law enforcement/judiciary/media/'science' gives not fuck one about them, only their own power and act accordingly.
 
A proper ‘post mortem’ public enquiry would be the ideal here, but it will never happen.
Although I'm skeptical of the actual impact and outcome of it, there is a group in Canada doing this under the banner of the National Citizen's Inquiry.
https://nationalcitizensinquiry.ca/
Index page for the actual hearings

I learned about it only recently, and only have had time to listen to the first set of hearings from March, but it's nice to have a comprehensive (if lengthy...) presentation of all the dissent of the past few years coming from both knowledgeable professionals and everyday citizens. I hope that it ultimately crystallizes into the wide acceptance that the entire thing was mishandled and people were deceived, because otherwise there is no way that the people who don't want to listen will change their mind. Unfortunately that seems to represent a lot of the political class at the moment.
It is very easy now for them to just put it down the memory hole... until next it is convenient to use force. Our courts even went so far as to refuse to make a decision on our charter violations because the mandates and restrictions were lifted - as if this doesn't just leave the door wide open for those powers to be misused next time. Quite frustrating.
 
This should have just been a 2020 retrospective. So, in retrospect, 2020 was probably the most demoralizing year since 2008 for a lot of Americans.
People who had the loudest mouth and biggest anti-conformity dick up until February/March 2020 mostly got zogged and domesticated the hardest, pathetic.
2020 utterly broke the American right-wing to a degree that was worse than 2016 was for liberals. Those last two months of the year, capping off with the failure that was the January 6th protest, was a total embarrassment.
 
Whatever the fuck your views on the vaccine are, Covid-19 is a virus that killed a fuck ton of people.
Yep, definitely not the fact that people were forced into seclusion, were under constant stress of "NEW BULLSHIT JUST DROPPED, BE NOIDED AND GIVE US RATINGS" and reduced oxygen from wearing dumb shit on their face.
Totally the virus and not retarded policies + fearmongering.
 
Yes, in specific scenarios. It was very effective as a prophylactic (preventing infection) or right at the start of infection. Less so at the mid and end. If we’d have put every elderly care home resident on a low dose of ivermectin we’d have saved countless lives.
Haha what a shitshow that was.

Remember the 'horse dewormer' craze? It was even made illegal in the US. "You wouldn't take horse medicine, would you?" pretty sure that's a S. Colbert quote.
The next time something happens, 'they' will be surprised at the extent many, if not most people either ignore what they say, find ways to work around what they ask, or simply not comply. We were getting there when things lightened up all of a sudden; the judiciary finally woke up and realized how badly people's rights had been trampled and now people were just telling TPTB to fuck off. People, least the intelligent ones, now know the government/law enforcement/judiciary/media/'science' gives not fuck one about them, only their own power and act accordingly.
Pretty sure this was a test to see what works and what doesn't.

The next time this happens, they will know what to do. The 'outliers' will be quicky shit down. Trying to talk sense into people will be worthless; the media will spun a narrative deboonking whatever and you will be labeled as a crazy conspiracy theorist for speaking sense.

They will easily and more aggressively seize control. The people who got pissed with covid will be even more compliant, like they were during covid. People will be pissed, but they will put up with it. Intelligent or not, they will obey. They'll have no choice.
 
This should have just been a 2020 retrospective. So, in retrospect, 2020 was probably the most demoralizing year since 2008 for a lot of Americans.

2020 utterly broke the American right-wing to a degree that was worse than 2016 was for liberals. Those last two months of the year, capping off with the failure that was the January 6th protest, was a total embarrassment.
Jan 6 was one hella based day and there should be a Jan 6 style event every month. Stop being a faggot. Also the right is now much more motivated to chimp out due to 2020 and the three and a half years since, which is a NECESSARY development given what's to come.
 
The next time something happens, 'they' will be surprised at the extent many, if not most people either ignore what they say, find ways to work around what they ask, or simply not comply. We were getting there when things lightened up all of a sudden; the judiciary finally woke up and realized how badly people's rights had been trampled and now people were just telling TPTB to fuck off. People, least the intelligent ones, now know the government/law enforcement/judiciary/media/'science' gives not fuck one about them, only their own power and act accordingly.
This is an overly-positive, US-centric view. It does not at all represent how the situation went and how it is currently going in other parts of the world.

The populations in other countries, Canada, Western Europe, Australia and New Zealand, Asia, were very compliant. Adherence to lockdowns, mask, social distancing and other pandemic paranoia nonsense was extremely high in the first 2 years. The bugmen in Asia continued their near-100% compliance well into 2022.

The push for cashless to reduce social contact was a big success. They managed to digitalise third-world countries that were cash-heavy like Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand into widely accepting of cashless options.

The only country outside the US which had any semblance of non-compliance and resistance was the UK. While they complied with lockdowns and pandemic paranoia nonsense in 2020, their adherence to mandates was noticeably lower compared to other countries. This was not helped by Boris Johnson and other political figures breaking their own rules.

There were many prolific acts of resistance in the UK. This ranged from mockery (the man who herded the sheeple into "vaccinated only" train carriages on the tube and made videos on that) to outright disobedience (people standing their ground that they are medically exempt from wearing a mask and refusing to show proof to power-tripping staff and hired enforcers).

They had full-fledged sticker warfare which has continued until this day. It even devolved into replacing posters at bus stops with official-looking ones mocking mandates and pointing out vaccine injuries and dangers.

The Canada trucker protest was too little, too late. Until that happened, there was 2 years of compliance, several months of accepting vaccine mandates. The protests did not even last one month. Subsequently, it was quickly buried and forgotten.

Outside of the US and UK, sticker warfare was mainly seen in Germany, Netherlands and to a limited extent in Australia. There was only one international group, The White Rose. They produced a lot of high quality messaging to wake people up and expose the pandemic scam. However, outside of German and Dutch where translations were quickly available and people even made local content, localisation efforts for other languages and regions was very poor. Presence in Asia was completely missing for The White Rose and the first Chinese localisation for only a few stickers was made only in late 2022.

In Asia, they had full compliance and no resistance. Many Asian countries have over 90-95% vaccination rates and had 100% mask compliance. They also maintained a high compliance rate to get their 4th and 5th jabs and voluntarily wore masks even after the government allowed people to not wear masks and stopped enforcement of vaccine mandates.

Pretty sure this was a test to see what works and what doesn't.

The next time this happens, they will know what to do. The 'outliers' will be quicky shit down. Trying to talk sense into people will be worthless; the media will spun a narrative deboonking whatever and you will be labeled as a crazy conspiracy theorist for speaking sense.

They will easily and more aggressively seize control. The people who got pissed with covid will be even more compliant, like they were during covid. People will be pissed, but they will put up with it. Intelligent or not, they will obey. They'll have no choice.
Yes. They will launch the next campaign from Asia again, where people have been the most paranoid, obedient and compliant, and do the least questioning and put up the least resistance.

Let the fear spread to Asian immigrant communities which are significant across Western big cities like Los Angeles, Vancouver, New York City, Toronto, London, Melbourne and Sydney. They automatically gain a good crowd of fearful and compliant people who will do the Current Thing. This helps create a kick off point at a local level as opposed to starting from zero.

Immediately censor wrong think and deploy fact checking. They already have done this to great success for COVID. For example, resistance in Asia was limited to small chat groups and obscure forums that could easily be contained or controlled.

Tie ability to access locations to digital ID. Make everything cashless and tie ability to make and receive payments to health status, carbon credit score and compliance level of an individual or business. Brainwash and incentivise people to police one another for the collective good of society.

Digitalise as many products as possible so they are internet-connected for surveillance and turn them into subscriptions. Create artificial rationing to create dependence on the system and to continuously check and ensure people are Up-To-Date on the Current Mandate.

This list is not comprehensive.
 
I genuinely believe that without the 2022 Trucker protests, Canada would have still dragged out ridiculous COVID measures into late 2022, and maybe even 2023.

As a Canadian, living in Quebec, the sheer rhetoric against the unvaccinated, and the "public polling" totally in favor of every rights-restricting measure the governments here enacted, alongside the courts basically rubber stamping it all, was incredibly strong in January 2022.

Quebec literally had a curfew that ended in late January, 2022, and it was replaced with more places requiring vaxpasses (including large stores like WalMart or Costco). They were also wanting an "unvaxxed" tax. On the federal level, the Trudeau government was proposing an interprovincial trucker vax mandate, requiring vaccination for truckers to cross provincial borders (a major cause of the 2022 Trucker protests). The federal government was fully aware only somewhere between 30-50% of truckers were vaccinated before the protests, and were willing to implode the Canadian economy further to force more people to get vaccinated or lose their jobs.

Canada only ended the requirement for vaccination for flights, trains, and ferries in late June 2022.

The problem is how so many people were seemingly okay with this. Even some members of my family sheepishly aren't bothered by being under useless, pointless curfews for almost a year, because "hurr durr we don't go out late much anymore."
 
Here in Burgerlandia we could still leave our homes. No one said we had to stay in our houses. Though it was advised that we stay away from large crowds. You know because that's how disease and illness spreads. But they did make us wear masks for a while. It wasn't fun having to put up with minimum wagies telling you to put a mask on. I did only because I wasn't about to fight over it because I knew it was a losing battle. You don't have much choice. All the restaurants are closed and the only place you can get any food is the grocery store and you have to wear a mask. We did have businesses shutdown but that was only for a little while. Eventually places found a way around it. They just served take out or did curbside pickup. I had plenty of meals that way. I really got sick of steak because I was going to a local steakhouse for dinner every other Friday By going I mean calling in my order and then picking it up. I got adventurous and started looking for other stuff and found they made a pretty decent quesadilla with steak or Chicken.

Then gradually over time everything started to open back up. I went back to some of my favorites places to eat dinner there instead of at home. Though I don't eat at the steak house anymore I just do curbside pick up if I do. I prefer to just eat my food at home.

I don't know what things are like in other countries but American life for the last 15 years or so is pretty sedentary. No one really goes anywhere anymore. There really isn't too many places to go. Most of the malls are shutdown and with the economic decline the US is going through most Americans can't afford to go anywhere. So it couldn't have been that hard for Americans to go through. No one really goes anywhere anymore anyway. There is no where to really go most can't afford to go anywhere and if you do leave your house you run the risk of getting your life enriched by some multicultural vibrancy.
 
I loved how the narrative shifted every week. Don't wear a mask. Wear a mask OR ELSE. Wear TWO MASKS. Vaccines bad because Trump. Vaccines 100% effective with 2 doses. Vaccines 90% effective with 2 doses and a booster every 6 months. Vaccines "mostly" effective with 2 doses and a booster every 6 weeks. There won't be vaccine mandates. We need more vaccine mandates. Public gatherings bad. Public gatherings necessary (to defeat white supremacy). If you called out the narrative shifting, you got a handwave explanation and called a far-right conspiracy theorist, even though 2020 was straight out of what Alex Jones warned us about all these years, and Alex Jones and other "conspiracy theorists" were always 3-4 months ahead of the narrative, and always correct.

Overall, the best part about the scamdemic was it revealed so much truth about society. Our elite are not stupid, they are evil, and they view us as cattle. Hell, they openly hate you, I mean I have never heard of politicians outside of dictatorships showing such broad contempt for the people they govern. And that's because most people are cattle, who with just a few weeks of propaganda can be radicalized into wearing a political uniform (mask), demanding the suspension of civil liberties, attacking all those who do not comply, and even taking dangerous experimental drugs to prove their faith in the system. I learned that what I was taught in church as a kid about atheistic science being the religion of the secular world was 100% correct.

If you don't see the truth about society after 2020-22, then you never will.
 
Some chick that got hired at my workplace during COVID took off her mask while walking to her car for the first time last Friday and I was shocked at seeing her face. Not ugly, but it was fucking unsettling nonetheless. We have another forever masker but at least I've seen his face before.

I leave the elderly and Asians alone, but if I see otherwise healthy millennials or zoomers wearing masks at the grocery store, I hover nearby and clear my throat, maybe sniffle my nose a bit.
 
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