Disaster Covington Catholic faces backlash after viral video at DC march - 4/11 WaPo countering lawsuit. Should get interesting.

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EDIT: Rubber is hitting road with the class-action defamation suit:

https://kiwifarms.net/posts/4281341/

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That’s why I’m very happy to help make this an informative, funny and thoughtful topic. Please let me know if I can improve the OP by the way.

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Update: Here is an introduction of all this from the perspective of one of the students who was there.
Hello Local 12 News. At the present time, I have an urgent request that truly is of the utmost importance, a request that supersedes my entire being and applies to the integrity of all Americans. You have probably seen or heard of the video of students wearing MAGA gear supposedly "harassing," "bothering," and "jeering at" a Native American veteran. This is not true and taken entirely out of context. I am a student at Covington Catholic and was present at the occurrence. Here is what truly happened:

Every year, my school attends the March for Life in DC and afterward tours the city. Our chaperones and teachers told us to be at the Lincoln Memorial at 5:30 to be ready for the buses to pick us up. 5:30 came around and we were all gathered at the Memorial. As we are an all-male school that loves to get hyped up (hence our cheer section's name, "Colonel Crazies"), and as we have done for years prior, we decided to do some cheers to pass time. In the midst of our cheers, we were approached by a group of adults led by Nathan Phillips, with Phillips beating his drum. They forced their way into the center of our group.

We initially thought this was a cultural display since he was beating along to our cheers, and so we clapped to the beat. He came to stand in front of one of my classmates who stood where he was, smiling and enjoying the experience. However, after multiple minutes of Mr. Phillips beating his drum directly in the face of my friend (mere centimeters from his nose), we became confused and started wondering what was happening. It was not until later that we discovered they would incriminate us as a publicity stunt. As a result, my friend faces expulsion for simply standing still and our entire school is being disparaged for a crime we did not commit. To reiterate, we did not partake in any physical or verbal abuse, did not chant "build the wall" or mock or anything of the like, and did not seek to incite violence.

After that initial occurrence, we were then verbally assaulted by four or five African-American men who called us "faggots" and berated one of our African-American students for being friends with us. The truth needs to come out. I pray that you read this and can speak for us who are silenced by the media. Here is video evidence of Nathan Phillips approaching the group of Covington Catholic students, showing that we did not approach him but he approached us(https://twitter.com/i/status/1086681831804674048); the later half of the occurrence showing Phillips' group inciting debates as well as harassment of the students by another group; and a second video of the harassment of students (https://twitter.com/i/status/1086796421226029056).

As you can see by these videos, the true story is quite different from that portrayed by the media. A great injustice has been done, and it is our duty to see that the truth prevails. Additionally, Mr. Phillips has a history of claiming racial harassment. I am by no means disparaging his credibility, but this should be taken note of.

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Links to many other videos of the same day, showing the black israelites....doing black israqelite things idk

https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/V...ng-Native-Americans-goes-viral-504596501.html

"WASHINGTON, DC (WKYT) - A video that has been widely shared on social media has sparked outrage against a Northern Kentucky High School.

According to FOX 19, the video shows a student standing and smirking directly in front of a Native American as he drums and sings, while a larger group of students, some wearing clothing that appears to bear the insignia of Covington Catholic High School, surrounds the man, jeering and chanting.

Social media posts from people at the scene say the Native American man was participating in the Indigenous Peoples March.

Posts on Covington Catholic’s Instagram page shows students from the school were in Washington, DC at the time, participating in the March for Life. The school’s social media platforms have since been restricted.

Secretary of State Alison Lundergan Grimes voiced her disapproval of the behavior in a tweet reading, “As we prepare to celebrate the life of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., his work to ensure equality for all through nonviolent civil disobedience sadly still applies today. Kentucky, we are better than this.”

She has also released a statement calling on Covington Catholic High School to denounce the incident.

Covington Catholic has not issued a statement at this time."
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Facebook page The Other 98% posted a bunch of info
(Lol their address is "1488")
Also they renamed the school to Covington Catholic White Entitlement High hyuk hyuk

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Same page also had this. NOTE: The Other 98% had this image blurred by Facebook within a few hours.
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They have barely lost any steam. Still trying to doxxxxx a bunch of high school kids, Lionizing Mr. Phillips, and another reference to deep-south Dixie days.

Not pictured, but if you guys use social media to bring up any counter-narrative about Phillips’ actions toward the kids, or the overreaction toward the kids in general, I’d be very careful. They are out for blood.

The principal, the teachers, the main few spotlighted boys smirking, they have all been named and targeted. The situation is approaching nuclear.

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1/23 this is why we need the salt mine again

4/11 hoo boy this is still going? I thought it would have died by now
 
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Wapo's own article on their settlement:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...42144c-cdbd-11ea-b0e3-d55bda07d66a_story.html
The Washington Post has settled a lawsuit brought by the parents of a teenager who alleged that news coverage of the teen’s encounter with a Native American activist on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial last year was defamatory.

The Post admitted no wrongdoing in settling with the family of Nicholas Sandmann, the Covington, Ky., high school student who was involved in the episode during a school trip to Washington in January 2019.
Attorneys for the Sandmanns filed to dismiss the suit Friday morning in federal district court in Covington. Neither side disclosed the terms of the settlement, which foreclosed the possibility of a trial.
The family contended in a suit filed last year that The Post defamed Sandmann in seven articles and via tweets promoting the articles. The Post has maintained that its reporting was accurate and fair.


The Sandmanns settled a similar lawsuit against CNN in January. The terms of that agreement were also kept confidential by both sides. The family’s suit against NBC is still pending. They have also filed suits against Gannett, ABC, CBS, the New York Times and Rolling Stone.
The encounter between Sandmann and Nathan Phillips, the Native American activist, became the subject of national debate after videos of the scene went viral.
The first videos showed a teenager, later identified as Sandmann — wearing a “Make America Great Again” cap in support of President Trump — standing face-to-face with Phillips as Phillips chanted and beat a small drum on the memorial’s steps. Other students, some of them also wearing MAGA hats, shouted and chanted nearby.

Phillips asserted after the encounter that he had been trying to walk to the memorial when he found his path blocked by Sandmann and other students, who he felt were ridiculing him.

Sandmann, who was 16 at the time, later said he meant no disrespect to Phillips and denied trying to block his path.
In the immediate aftermath, many cast the episode in political terms, largely as a result of the MAGA hats worn by Sandmann and some of his classmates.
In their lawsuit against The Post, Sandmann’s parents, Ted and Julie, alleged The Post had “targeted and bullied” their son to embarrass Trump — a statement The Post disputed.
“The Post ignored basic journalist standards because it wanted to advance its well-known and easily documented, biased agenda against President Donald J. Trump by impugning individuals perceived to be supporters of the President,” the suit’s complaint alleged. It claimed The Post went after Sandmann “because he was the white, Catholic student wearing a red ‘Make America Great Again’ souvenir cap.”


The Post defended its coverage, arguing it was entitled to report Phillips’s interpretation of the encounter and noting that it also reported Sandmann’s account once it was available.
Trump cheered on the suit, posting a tweet reading, “Go get them Nick. Fake News!”
The Sandmanns sought $250 million in damages — which their attorneys noted was the same amount Amazon founder and chief executive Jeff Bezos paid in 2013 to purchase The Post.
Sandmann was on a trip to Washington with classmates from Covington Catholic High School to march in an antiabortion rally on the Mall. After completing the march, the students were waiting for a bus at the Lincoln Memorial. Phillips was at the Mall for a rally for indigenous people.

Initial news accounts, including The Post’s, relied on eyewitnesses such as Phillips and a limited number of videos posted on social media. Sandmann wasn’t identified in early accounts and didn’t speak publicly about it until several days later.

Covington Catholic and the Covington Diocese initially issued an apology on behalf of the students and condemned their behavior.
But later videos gave a fuller picture of what happened. They showed that several men, part of a group called the Black Hebrew Israelites, had been shouting racial epithets and homophobic slurs at the waiting Covington students. Some of the students began school sports cheers in response as Phillips approached.

News organizations sometimes settle defamation claims rather than face a trial. Even with a favorable judgment at trial, the costs of defending against such a suit can be substantial.
In July 2019, a federal judge in Kentucky dismissed the Sandmanns’ suit against The Post, ruling that all of the challenged statements were either opinion, not defamatory or not about Sandmann specifically. But in October, the judge, William O. Bertelsman, reinstated part of the lawsuit, based on a motion to reconsider an amended complaint filed by Sandmann’s lawyers, allowing the case to proceed on three statements in Post articles stating that Sandmann had “blocked” Phillips and “would not allow him to retreat.”

“We are pleased that we have been able to reach a mutually agreeable resolution of the remaining claims of the lawsuit,” Post spokeswoman Kris Coratti said. Executive Editor Martin Baron declined to comment.

The Sandmanns’ attorney Todd McMurtry issued a statement that they had “agreed to settle with the Post because the Post was quick to publish the whole truth — through its follow-up coverage and editor’s notes.” Another member of their legal team, L. Lin Wood, noted on Twitter that Nicholas Sandmann marked his 18th birthday on Friday and that the legal team “gave Nicholas the gift of justice from . . . THE WASHINGTON POST.”
Nicholas Sandmann tweeted, in reference to the other media organizations that were sued: “The fight isn’t over. 2 down. 6 to go.”
They sound a bit sour tbh.

"News organizations sometimes settle defamation claims rather than face a trial. Even with a favorable judgment at trial, the costs of defending against such a suit can be substantial."
Translated:
"We fucked up and we don't wanna get dunked on in court, take some money and leave us alone now"
The Sandmanns sought $250 million in damages — which their attorneys noted was the same amount Amazon founder and chief executive Jeff Bezos paid in 2013 to purchase The Post.
Cool, hope he buys wapo and shutters it. (i know he doesn't actually get that much)
 
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The family contended in a suit filed last year that The Post defamed Sandmann in seven articles and via tweets promoting the articles. The Post has maintained that its reporting was accurate and fair.

They should be fucking embarrassed to continue defending that lynch mob hysteria. They are not on "the right side of history," but on the same side of history as the Salem Witch Trials were. Fuck the WaPo. It is a publication with no honor or honesty.
 
I know like 80% of the settlements will go to lawyers
A normal contingency fee would run from 30-50% for a case that went to trial, often less if the case is settled out of court.

I had a small contingency case where the agreement was 25% if it settled before trial. It was a timber trespass case where the defendant was a contract logger with insurance, with statutory treble damages and mandatory attorney fees. I shaved a little off of the amount of mandatory damages, made that as an offer and reminded them that there were attorney fees if they took it to trial, and they just accepted the offer, so I got my contingency fee with just 4 hours logged. Good work if you can get it! The clients didn't mind, since they actually turned a profit on the suit.
 
Styx vlogged about Nick Sandmann.

These Youtubers gived me some smiles with these comments.
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Washington Post and CNN can now say they've covered the most expensive smirk in history.

Bill West

Each losing media outlet to paint “We are sorry Nick” on street on front of their building.
Disposable Hero
Each chief-editor should be forced to self-immolate on live TV. P.S. But only after the check has cleared.
 
They should be fucking embarrassed to continue defending that lynch mob hysteria. They are not on "the right side of history," but on the same side of history as the Salem Witch Trials were. Fuck the WaPo. It is a publication with no honor or honesty.

"Right side of history" is to progressives as "72 virgins in heaven" is to suicide bombers. 🚬
 
Meanwhile, the same sort of people who consume that media also tend to think Kiwi Farms is some shadowy fringe hate site, yet KF never covers minors or actively advocates ruining people's lives. :punished:
In my one month here, I've concluded that this place is the internet's Statler and Waldorf.
They should be fucking embarrassed to continue defending that lynch mob hysteria. They are not on "the right side of history," but on the same side of history as the Salem Witch Trials were. Fuck the WaPo. It is a publication with no honor or honesty.
"Right side of history" is to progressives as "72 virgins in heaven" is to suicide bombers. 🚬
My favorite refutation of the "right side of history" meme: "I'd rather be on the right side of the truth".
 
And there's some genius in the Wapo comments running around and beating the idea absolutely to death that that "Undisclosed settlement" = $0.00.

People are going to believe it, And the undisclosed bit will probably fall off as they pass the idea around.
Idiot or damage control by misinformation? Why not both?
 
And there's some genius in the Wapo comments running around and beating the idea absolutely to death that that "Undisclosed settlement" = $0.00.

People are going to believe it, And the undisclosed bit will probably fall off as they pass the idea around.
Idiot or damage control by misinformation? Why not both?
I repeat: the WaPo comment section was when I took to heart Kurt Schlichter's mantra: "liberals hate you, buy guns and ammo".
 
I don't expect them to actually be fired but what a treat if they were. What part of shut the fuck up don't you understand?

I'm sure they won't be fired because their bosses told them to do this. This is the trick, you settle as a defendant and then send out your shitty little minions on social media to spin your narrative for you. That's called "acting in concert" and the defendant can be held accountable. It doesn't look like Lin Wood is going to play pattycake on this.
 
It seems like Lin Wood, Sandmann's attorney, is going to make CNN and the Post actually enforce confidentiality rules on the little twitter prats, witch guest appearance by Manbaby Waid's creepy lawyer:

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I don't expect them to actually be fired but what a treat if they were. What part of shut the fuck up don't you understand?




CNN must have a really shitty legal department if they didn't send an email to the rest of the company saying "Hey dipshits. Our ratings are in the toilet, a bunch of peaceful protesters tried to burn our building down, and we just settled a lawsuit with a high profile attorney who's got nothing but time on his hands. Please for the love of God don't let your mouths write checks our asses can't cash."
 
CNN must have a really shitty legal department if they didn't send an email to the rest of the company saying "Hey dipshits. Our ratings are in the toilet, a bunch of peaceful protesters tried to burn our building down, and we just settled a lawsuit with a high profile attorney who's got nothing but time on his hands. Please for the love of God don't let your mouths write checks our asses can't cash."

Two possibilities here. They actually did settle for nuisance value, and if so, and these guys leaked it, that means they immediately breached the settlement agreement before the ink was even dry. The other is these dumb blabbermouths are just running their mouths and have no clue what they're talking about.
 
CNN must have a really shitty legal department if they didn't send an email to the rest of the company saying "Hey dipshits. Our ratings are in the toilet, a bunch of peaceful protesters tried to burn our building down, and we just settled a lawsuit with a high profile attorney who's got nothing but time on his hands. Please for the love of God don't let your mouths write checks our asses can't cash."
I'm sure their legal department did. You're assuming journalists are smart enough to link cause and effect though even when they get slapped in the face by it, which as this lawsuit has proven, they sure as hell aren't and neither are the editors who are supposed to tard wrangle them.
 
Journalists feel they are an unaccountable class who shouldn’t be held responsible for anything. Even if CNN settled for $6 million, that’s not going to stop these idiots from running their mouth. Hell, giving them a pink slip hasn’t shut them up in the past.
 
Seems like a valid strategy... Settle the initial cases for small amounts, then bring the pain as the numbers pile on. But is that what they're doing?

It's interesting that L. Lin Wood call them out as liars. Would it actually be a breach of the NDA to say that they settled for $X when it was actually $Z? Does the NDA cover the speech of a journalist who supposedly independently obtained information that he is not otherwise privy to?
 
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Seems like a valid strategy... Settle the initial cases for small amounts, then bring the pain as the numbers pile on. But is that what they're doing?

It's interesting that L. Lin Wood call them out as liars. Would it actually be a breach of the NDA to say that they settled for $X when it was actually $Z?

It cheats them of the benefit of the settlement either to tell the truth or lie about it. Even uninformed speculation by the employees of a settling party give the impression of validity to their claims if the principal doesn't repudiate them. In any event, if Lin is saying they're lying and files suit about it, the first exhibit will be the actual settlement agreement itself and if they were the ones who wanted confidentiality, it's gone at that point.

I don't think he'd be so confident about making threats if the contents of the settlement didn't favor it and if the threats have no teeth.
 
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