Creationists - Jack Chick, Kent Hovind, etc.

[MysticMisty]

Omg they STILL give these things out in subways. I mean, people always hand things out in subways, that's just normal, but the way the jack chick people do it is particularly obnoxious. They stand directly in front of the entrance terminals to the S track, and the 4-7. Literally the most crowed place in all of NYC. They also ride shuttle round and round to hand out more chick tracks, which you aren't supposed to do. Oh! And they will chase down people who they think really need a chick track. Like, two years ago on the S track I saw two of them bombard a Muslim women, a mom with two very little kiddies, with their little comic books. They tried to preach their whole little speech at her. She took out her ipod and put her headphones in while they were talking to her. It was kind of awesome.

This reminds me a lot about what someone my senior year of high school did. Several times this guy would climb partway up one of the stairwells and start preaching to fellow students with a fucking bullhorn in the middle of the day. And by "preaching" I mean "telling us how we're all sinners and we're going to burn in Hell if we don't give our lives up to Jesus". And every time he did this nobody could get up the stairs. I don't know if he had friends blocking the way, or if people actually did stop to listen or what, but it would become impossible to move in any direction until people finally climbed the stairs. And that never happened until about a minute (or less) before the bell would ring, making well over a hundred students late to class, no lie.

One time this happened on the way to my Government class, and everybody was late. It was the first time my teacher had heard of the Jesus guy and he was furious. Our teacher assured us he would complain to the office about this guy. He probably wasn't the only one, because after that the Jesus guy never blocked stairwells "preaching" with a bullhorn during the school day ever again. He began blocking the main walking entrance out of the campus while "preaching" with his bullhorn after school hours instead.

 

[Surtur]

Omg they STILL give these things out in subways. I mean, people always hand things out in subways, that's just normal, but the way the jack chick people do it is particularly obnoxious. They stand directly in front of the entrance terminals to the S track, and the 4-7. Literally the most crowed place in all of NYC. They also ride shuttle round and round to hand out more chick tracks, which you aren't supposed to do. Oh! And they will chase down people who they think really need a chick track. Like, two years ago on the S track I saw two of them bombard a Muslim women, a mom with two very little kiddies, with their little comic books. They tried to preach their whole little speech at her. She took out her ipod and put her headphones in while they were talking to her. It was kind of awesome.

This reminds me a lot about what someone my senior year of high school did. Several times this guy would climb partway up one of the stairwells and start preaching to fellow students with a fucking bullhorn in the middle of the day. And by "preaching" I mean "telling us how we're all sinners and we're going to burn in Hell if we don't give our lives up to Jesus". And every time he did this nobody could get up the stairs. I don't know if he had friends blocking the way, or if people actually did stop to listen or what, but it would become impossible to move in any direction until people finally climbed the stairs. And that never happened until about a minute (or less) before the bell would ring, making well over a hundred students late to class, no lie.

One time this happened on the way to my Government class, and everybody was late. It was the first time my teacher had heard of the Jesus guy and he was furious. Our teacher assured us he would complain to the office about this guy. He probably wasn't the only one, because after that the Jesus guy never blocked stairwells "preaching" with a bullhorn during the school day ever again. He began blocking the main walking entrance out of the campus while "preaching" with his bullhorn after school hours instead.

Did he bitch about being "oppressed"?

 

[c-no]

Omg they STILL give these things out in subways. I mean, people always hand things out in subways, that's just normal, but the way the jack chick people do it is particularly obnoxious. They stand directly in front of the entrance terminals to the S track, and the 4-7. Literally the most crowed place in all of NYC. They also ride shuttle round and round to hand out more chick tracks, which you aren't supposed to do. Oh! And they will chase down people who they think really need a chick track. Like, two years ago on the S track I saw two of them bombard a Muslim women, a mom with two very little kiddies, with their little comic books. They tried to preach their whole little speech at her. She took out her ipod and put her headphones in while they were talking to her. It was kind of awesome.

This reminds me a lot about what someone my senior year of high school did. Several times this guy would climb partway up one of the stairwells and start preaching to fellow students with a fucking bullhorn in the middle of the day. And by "preaching" I mean "telling us how we're all sinners and we're going to burn in Hell if we don't give our lives up to Jesus". And every time he did this nobody could get up the stairs. I don't know if he had friends blocking the way, or if people actually did stop to listen or what, but it would become impossible to move in any direction until people finally climbed the stairs. And that never happened until about a minute (or less) before the bell would ring, making well over a hundred students late to class, no lie.

One time this happened on the way to my Government class, and everybody was late. It was the first time my teacher had heard of the Jesus guy and he was furious. Our teacher assured us he would complain to the office about this guy. He probably wasn't the only one, because after that the Jesus guy never blocked stairwells "preaching" with a bullhorn during the school day ever again. He began blocking the main walking entrance out of the campus while "preaching" with his bullhorn after school hours instead.

Did he bitch about being "oppressed"?

Seeing as how this guy acted, "preaching" about Jesus and being a nuisance, I'm pretty sure he would complain about being "oppressed". For some reason, it makes me think of Chris when he collided with jerkops.

 

[Picklepower]

Dude if some teen preacher was blocking my way purposefully, I would take joy in shoving past him rudely, especially since this guy was blocking a stairway, that shouldn't be allowed for ANY reason. He KNEW he was inconveniencing people who had to get to class, I would have shoved past like, "OUTTA MY WAY BRO!!" lol I guarantee, he would not have made me late to class, and if that "hurt his feelings" I would not have lost any sleep over it. You can act like an idiot outside,that is your right, but not in the fucking stairway. And this wouldn't have been a case of the mean old atheist, being rude to the religious, it is common sense that you should not block a narrow stairway, stairways are not made for people to crowd around in, for a dinner party, or book club meeting, they are meant to get you from one place to another.

 

[Surtur]

Dude if some teen preacher was blocking my way purposefully, I would take joy in shoving past him rudely, especially since this guy was blocking a stairway, that shouldn't be allowed for ANY reason. He KNEW he was inconveniencing people who had to get to class, I would have shoved past like, "OUTTA MY WAY BRO!!" lol I guarantee, he would not have made me late to class, and if that "hurt his feelings" I would not have lost any sleep over it. You can act like an idiot outside,that is your right, but not in the fucking stairway. And this wouldn't have been a case of the mean old atheist, being rude to the religious, it is common sense that you should not block a narrow stairway, stairways are not made for people to crowd around in, for a dinner party, or book club meeting, they are meant to get you from one place to another.

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[Picklepower]

Not to mention, some of the people who were inconvenienced were probably also Christians themselves.

 

[PvtRichardCranium]

The whole DND=SATANISM thing just makes me laugh. I had a pastor who would play DND with the nerdy members of the church every Saturday. Whenever you asked him about people like Jack Chick he'd always say that they got a few bad character rolls when they were being raised, which was basically his very polite and nerdy way of saying "Fuck that guy."

Funnily enough, whenever he played DND he always played as the exact character people like Jack Chick are afraid of. He played as a mage that most of the time cast illusion spells that would scare the shit out of people so much that they'd either join us or kill themselves, while I, the kid who listened to bands like Dying Fetus and Slayer, either played as a Bard who just Charisma'd his way out of situations or a Cleric who would very rarely fight at all and only did so to make his healing spells more powerful (and yes, his name was Pardue, of mazes and monsters fame).

 

[Surtur]

The whole DND=SATANISM thing just makes me laugh. I had a pastor who would play DND with the nerdy members of the church every Saturday. Whenever you asked him about people like Jack Chick he'd always say that they got a few bad character rolls when they were being raised, which was basically his very polite and nerdy way of saying "Fuck that guy."

I wish I had a cool pastor like that.

 

[PvtRichardCranium]

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH HER FACE?!

Also, Mind Bondage always sounded very kinky

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[Judge Holden]

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WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH HER FACE?!

Take a look at a couple other chick tracts. The "evil sneery" face is a deliberate choice by chick to quite literally demonize people who dont bow down to his dogma instantly or dare voice disagreement. About as crude a propaganda aesthetic as you would expect from a man who finds ever more blunt ways to say "everyone I dont like is going to hell because I say so" in every tract he shits out

 

[PvtRichardCranium]

There are still anti DND people around today trying to spread their bullshit gospel. The problem is that what once was the average DND player (male, nerdy, teenaged, outcast), who was easy to stereotype because everybody else was already staying away from them, is no longer the only demographic that DND reaches. When I was in Powell Wyoming, which is one of the smallest, most Republicanist towns I've ever been to, I was the new kid, and that made me popular with the Jocks, the Cheerleaders, and everybody who I normally would have been popular with tacked onto that. One time they saw me and my friends playing Dungeons and Dragons, and said, "Hey, Richard, that kid from the big city likes DND, that must make it cooler than we thought!" so now there's football players not only asking nerds for help with homework but also asking them for advice on what enchantment to use on their battleaxe.

That's what terrifies these people. I mean, look at Vin Diesel. He's the LAST person you'd expect to play Dungeons and Dragons, yet he plays it quite a bit. Hell, he even has his own video game company! Satanists, or, what they are in reality, nerds, can literally be anywhere now. On TV, in the Armed Forces, IN YOUR OWN HOME!

 

[Cutlery Cat]

Reading this thread reminds me of all the shit I got while working in an RPG shop cicra 88-92. I live in the UK and at that time there was a moral panic in full swing. Crap like this was going down : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Rona ... se_scandal

Locally we had a fuck-witted clown who ran one of the local children's charities and somehow she became a "moral guardian". She started seeing evil child abducting satanists everywhere. Our shop was labelled as "Evil" of course. Luckily the parents of our younger customers realised she was just a self publicising idiot and our teen customers were happy they suddenly looked damn cool at school.

This idiot overreached herself when she got involved in a child abuse case and royally fucked it up. She shouldn't have been let near the victims, but the local police and press regarded her as an expert on satanic abuse (yeah right).

Anyway, the police had a watertight case against the abusers, then she started questioning the victims. Suddenly these kids are remembering lots of stuff like ritual ceremonies in the woods and other weird shit. One victim told her how one of the abusers was covered in ritual tattoos.
The guy hadn't a bloody tattoo on him.

The case fell apart and the local police got a colossal rocket for giving her unrestricted access. She was dropped from the charity and the local paper stopped printing her weekly column.

Shortly after this, the local paper rang us asking if we'd like to buy advertising space. I told them to fuck off.

 

[TastyWoodenBadge]

Satanists, or, what they are in reality, nerds, can literally be anywhere now. On TV, in the Armed Forces, IN YOUR OWN HOME!

HIDE YOU'RE CHILDREN EVERYONE!!!

 

[SodomyRocket]

Just leaving this here....

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I have light sensitivity so according to ray comfort god is being a dick to me.

 

[Fialovy]

Also, Mind Bondage always sounded very kinky

Weeeeeeeelll it isn't too far of a stretch. A lot of BDSM circles also have Dungeon Masters (or monitors) too!

 

[Pikimon]

I wonder if Jack Chick likes the new season of American Horror Story?

 

[John Titor]

Here's more quotes from John Paul Jackson, again from the book.

Please keep in mind, all of these quotes are again from the book "Buying and Selling the Souls of Our Children: A Closer Look At Pokemon".

Enslaving Demons

In New Age paganism and the occult, it is commonly believed that spirit guides, messengers, and elementals (or spirits) can be summoned to do things for a trainer or practitioner. Spirit guides watch and tell a trainer what it sees. These spirits guard the trainer, fightoff other spirits or elementals, and carry out assignments given by the trainer.

Dangerous parallels exist between the world of Pokemon and that of the occult. A pagan trainer can capture free elementals--much like Pokemon trainers capture Pocket Monsters--and build relationships with them for future use. This same relationship is also found in Wicca or Witchcraft.

Wiccan Circles

In Wicca, guardians, known as Watchtowers, are summoned into a protective circle until called upon to fight off "bad" spirits. In Pokemon, the creatures are held in a Pokeball until the trainer summons them to fight.

In mature forms of witchcraft, one advances to higher levels by conquering demons in other people to make them their slaves. The master practitioner can then project thoughts into the slave as his demons communicate orders to the slave demons in the other person. This principle is being taught to our children in the way Pokemon capture other Pokemon. It falls under the deeper things of Satan we are warned about in Revelation 2.

Witches and shamans, who claim to project themselves into animals, recommend that only master practitioners do these things becuase an individual is not the master of the spirits, just as trainers are not masters of the Pocket Monsters. They warn that such spirits, once summoned, can be hard to get rid of, and may require an exorcism to be freed of an "evil one".

The Counterfeit Trinity

Ash, for example, can evolve into Dodrio, a creature that resembles a bird with three heads. Interestingly, Dodrio's height and weight are the dimensions of an average-sized man. Dodrio is the Pocket Monster with three heads--and interesting allusion to a counterfeit Trinity.

In the Holy Trinity, the Holy Spirit is sent to indwell, enpower, defend, teach and lead followers of Jesus Christ. The same may be said about the counterfeit trinity, except that the empowerment is dark in its nature.

Subtly, Pokemon promotes the belief that man can become like God--a philosophy that is also promoted in Buddhism and New Age religions. It is also the enticement that Satan offered to Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. It was this temptation that inspired the people of Babylon to construct the Tower of Babel. It's a ploy that Satan has used on many unsuspecting souls. Will our children be the next target of his evil deception?

Wouldn't it be hilarious if these people discovered Shin Megami Tensei?

 

[Saney]

I wonder if Jack Chick likes the new season of American Horror Story?

I'm sure he'd love the religious neighbour character.

 

[Fialovy]

Oh my gosh, Shin Megami Tensei! I'm surprised they aren't all over that one! Maybe its not mainstream enough...

 

[Superjad]

A series like SMT is probably like the King in Yellow to them though, so even if they did find out about it they would dehydrate from foaming at the mouth before they could tell anyone else.