Creationists - Jack Chick, Kent Hovind, etc.

Ca Ira said:
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Interesting how the artists obviously put a great deal more effort and detail into this particular one compared to most of them.

My personal favorite is "Moving On Up!", in which a young boy learns about evolution and immediately decides to become Hitler and declares himself god. There was a family across the street from me when I was a kid who would hand these out on Halloween instead of candy.

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SkeletonBias said:
Interesting how the artists obviously put a great deal more effort and detail into this particular one compared to most of them.

My personal favorite is "Moving On Up!", in which a young boy learns about evolution and immediately decides to become Hitler and declares himself god. There was a family across the street from me when I was a kid who would hand these out on Halloween instead of candy.

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I don't understand the "baby is smaller than me angle" because the baby will grow up. Also, couldn't that black kid say the same thing that he's the master race?
 
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Philly Cheese Steak said:
I don't understand the "baby is smaller than me angle" because the baby will grow up. Also, couldn't that black kid say the same thing that he's the master race?
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You're applying logic to a Chick tract about evolution, those are pretty much always the highest level of illogical stupid because Chick doesn't understand or like evolution so conflates it with everything else
Did give us this wonderful page though
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I think one of my favourite things about the chick tracts are those like in Wounded Children.
Namely that one scene where a bunch of rednecks murder a gay guy. The only one willing to help was the demon, the Chick Audience surrogates face absolutely no repercussions whatsoever and... wow. How often do you see an obvious strawman only for the author to point to them and say "these guys are right, be like them!" just like the guy's dad.

The other being the way the tracts seem to imply half the time that comes out the complete opposite of what they're trying to say. Like in that same tract where they're trying to pass it off as "being gay makes you derpressed because no jesus" when they show off exactly the kind of prejudice that causes that and again, doesn't present it as being remotely wrong, even when that characters advocate genocide.

Or those like the evolution one up above seems to imply that Chick and his audience is so amoral they literally cannot comprehend human morality outside of a fear of hell.

That and showing godjesus to be the most vile, vindictive, villains ever who punish only the good. Oh that child rapist who has no regrets whatsoever? He said "I believe in Jesus" before he died so he went to heaven! But that kid he raped and murdered before they can be introduced to religion? Sent to hell to be tortured forever!

That raises another question: since all are born sinners by default (which seems to totally invalidate what Jesus supposedly even died for) does that mean all aborted babies, stillborns and the like get tossed right into hell?

Basically, there's a lot I love about these tracts for all the wrong, most fucked up reasons.
 
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Da Pickle Monsta said:
It must be terrifying to be Jack Chick. Everybody in the world is a gay atheist Catholic Satanist who wants nothing else than to corrupt your immortal soul and send you to hell.

It would be sad if it wasn't so damn funny.
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I kind of see Jack's enterprise as a slightly more successful version of Chris' hoped-for Sonichu media empire.
 
Philly Cheese Steak said:
I don't understand the "baby is smaller than me angle" because the baby will grow up. Also, couldn't that black kid say the same thing that he's the master race?
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It's the "brown eyes are weaker" angle that does it for me (never mind the whole skin color thing) that proves the sheer lunatic idiocy of these things. I would ask if Jack Chick ever goes back and thinks about what he's just written, except I don't think he even bothers to think about it in the first place.

Most publishing houses have at least a small research and fact checking department, even if it's just one guy and wikipedia. I think it's painfully obvious Jack Chick Enterprises does not.
MayMay said:
Or those like the evolution one up above seems to imply that Chick and his audience is so amoral they literally cannot comprehend human morality outside of a fear of hell.
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It kind of makes me thankful the people over at Jack Chick Enterprises actually do have a fear of hell.

As awful as they are, just imagine the sort of monsters they would be if they didn't.

Maybe it's just me, but I get a sense there's a lot of wish fulfillment going on in Chick Tracts for their creators. And that's creepy as all fuck.
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There was the Elliot Roger lookalike posted earlier. I wonder how many other people of interest "cameo" in the tracts?
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I thought most Chick Tracts were products of the 90's though. You can generally tell from the low quality, low resolution scans. So while Chick definitely does insert the occasional "celebrity guest star", usually in a villain role, most of these are probably coincidence. I mean the art in Chick Tracts is usually so bad and so off model you can probably find a resemblance to just about anybody in them (if you squint enough).
 
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Mrs Paul said:
I think there was one tract about how there was always a protestant church, but it had to go underground when the Romans took over and the evil Catholics came into power.
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I wonder if Jack does any "research" at all into this, even on a strictly token basis, or if he literally makes shit up and writes comics about them.

As an aside, I now want to see @Brad Watson_Miami do a Chick Tract.
 
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MayMay said:
Or those like the evolution one up above seems to imply that Chick and his audience is so amoral they literally cannot comprehend human morality outside of a fear of hell.
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But this is how they see the world. I've heard tell some of these people say, if there was no God and punishment in Hell they would rape, steal and do whatever they wanted because there's no punishment.

To which I say to them, that I don't do any of those things and don't believe in God but if the belief in the supernatural is the only thing keeping you from being an amoral monster then I would hope they never lose their faith.

Now I want to believe that some of these people are simply engaging in hyperbole and don't actually want to do those things but part is afraid that they really are that scary underneath it all.
 
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Believe it or not Chick has been turning out tracts since 1960.

His second tract was called A Demon's Nightmare about a young man getting saved and becoming a missionary to South Asia, thwarting two demons' plans to drag him to hell.

https://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0004/0004_01.asp

This was his first tract, called Why no revival, that tries to guilt trip Christians to proselytize and share his views of the faith -

https://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0008/0008_01.asp

oh yeah, and Kent Hovind contributed to the anti-evolution tract Big Daddy
 
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I remember at college getting a Chick tract from a random guy. I accepted it and gave it a look because why not. Said tract was about a guy who goes from being a baby to growing up into an adult who walks with millions of other people. His family leaves him for a narrow path to Christ but the guy keeps walking with crowd because someone convinced him. What makes me find it funny is that the demon's disguise was basically Colonel Sanders. I then thought to myself "KFC is the devil".
 
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Here: Baptists the original Christians.

SkeletonBias said:
Interesting how the artists obviously put a great deal more effort and detail into this particular one compared to most of them.

My personal favorite is "Moving On Up!", in which a young boy learns about evolution and immediately decides to become Hitler and declares himself god. There was a family across the street from me when I was a kid who would hand these out on Halloween instead of candy.

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I love how in all of these, nobody's heard of Jesus. Who the fuck HASN'T heard of Jesus?

You know, I'm starting to wonder if Jack Chick isn't actually an extreme atheist anti-religious type who's trying to make Christians look like moronic douchebags.
 
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Mrs Paul said:
I love how in all of these, nobody's heard of Jesus. Who the fuck HASN'T heard of Jesus?
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This is actually pretty common in fundamentalist circles. They like to pretend they are a horribly oppressed minority group and the only light in a dark world of corruption and sin rather than the dominant religion. Of course they define oppression as "Not getting my way at all times."
 
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