Crusader Kings 3 - Its Crusader Kings 2 with a paint job

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The games been fun so far. Progress feels good and the challenge is in a good sweet spot imo.

The freedom of the approach to forming your own religion and holy order is definitely berh cool.
 
There is literally no reason not to pirate paradox games.

Blackstar said:
It's a shame they haven't bothered to introduce a population system like viccy 2. Having that instead of just a single number for development would've been much better. Thankfully there's someone who wanted to overhaul HIP from ck2 into a bigger mod called AVE MARIA, having more systems and population, which he already setup in an alpha build but moved to ck3 after seeing it's potential.
Hopefully this mod will fix these problems, the creator had a few dev diaries showing what he wanted to do in ck2 and what he will port to ck3 and it looks promising, dm me if you wanna join the discord for updates
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At this point modders should just build their own engine and move over there.
 
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The game won't fucking launch anymore, just an instant crash and reinstalling made it launch once before crashing again.
I give up, back to ck2
 
I don't like how advisor jobs are on a fixed progress bar now. Conquering Ireland from a single province is as simple as sending your bishop (why is this the bishop's job now, anyway?) from county to county and waiting for your free fake claim to finish. Converting Iberia is as simple as sending your bishop province to province and waiting for the conversion bar to fill up in each one.

It feels a lot less gamey for these to be indeterminate things, in CK2 converting Iberia was a massive undertaking (unless you were in a monastic order, but societies are fucking stupid and should be disabled anyway) that you had to progressively work on in the background while you managed your realm. Fabricating claims was appropriately more of a one off, bullshit underhanded move you could pull to nab an extra province, but not nearly reliable enough for major conquest when you could instead be having your chancellor sucking the Pope's dick to get a claim from some asshole nearby.

Otherwise, CK3 isn't too bad. CK2 is still the better game, but there are worthwhile concepts keeping me interesting in playing. Locking primogeniture behind 1200AD pissed me off at first, but it's keeping games more interesting and forcing me to find creative ways to deal with inheritance.
 
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I'm interested in CK 3 but I need to be smart and wait at least six months before buying it. CK 2 has been my favorite game of the last decade, and I don't want to go back to a stripped down game with no mods. I've been playing Paradox games since EU 1, so the idea of a smoothly pdx game is still novel to me.
 
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Troonos said:
Paradox can get bent. I'm not giving them any more of my money. Cowards willing to bend the knee to the woke brigade deserve to fail.
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>He pays for Paradox Games
What if I told you there was another way?

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Gangster Talk said:
I don't like how advisor jobs are on a fixed progress bar now. Conquering Ireland from a single province is as simple as sending your bishop (why is this the bishop's job now, anyway?) from county to county and waiting for your free fake claim to finish. Converting Iberia is as simple as sending your bishop province to province and waiting for the conversion bar to fill up in each one.

It feels a lot less gamey for these to be indeterminate things, in CK2 converting Iberia was a massive undertaking (unless you were in a monastic order, but societies are fucking stupid and should be disabled anyway) that you had to progressively work on in the background while you managed your realm. Fabricating claims was appropriately more of a one off, bullshit underhanded move you could pull to nab an extra province, but not nearly reliable enough for major conquest when you could instead be having your chancellor sucking the Pope's dick to get a claim from some asshole nearby.

Otherwise, CK3 isn't too bad. CK2 is still the better game, but there are worthwhile concepts keeping me interesting in playing. Locking primogeniture behind 1200AD pissed me off at first, but it's keeping games more interesting and forcing me to find creative ways to deal with inheritance.
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I'm just glad they don't have as much "Costs X years of income" bullshit anymore. At some point you would never fabricate claims because it would cost you more than what you could ever make from that county, and it was much cheaper to just provoke a rebellion, steal his land, land a guy with a relevant claim in the county you just stole, and then press his claim. Now it seems to be based on the value of the county which makes much more sense.
 
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I pirated it myself to give it a whirl and one thing I hated right out of the gate is making you wait til around 1200 to get primogeniture, you get to spend 200 years watching your realm explode or longer if you chose the Viking Age start date and it basically forces you to use console commands if you want to control your succession without having to murder all your family members for years. And the lack of extra start dates sucks too, recently in CK2 I had some fun doing a run as the Latin Empire and I thought the Iron Age was a cool addition too, getting to just pick an era and start from there just makes things more fun in my opinion.

I also didn't like how bare bones the Byzantines are, I thought about doing a run to restore Rome but right now they're kinda stale because they're likely gonna release all the Byzantine/Roman stuff in a DLC which obviously isn't out of the ordinary with Paradox.
 
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I’ve never played previous Crusader Kings games but I picked up this new one :)

It seems like a solid game so far. Some parts are a bit hard to grasp but that doesn’t stop me from bumbling around and somehow finding modest success anyway.
 
Liking it a bit more now that I've gotten used to the UI a bit more, and my god does it take some getting used to. I'm finding it a bit more challenging than CK2 but perhaps it's because I don't know all the tricks to steamrolling the AI like in CK2.

Still would recommend pirating it at the moment. I think Paradox can gussy this up and turn it into a buy later, but unless you have unquestioning faith in them I wouldn't do it.
 
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So far it feels pretty much exactly like vanilla CK2 except the map works better and it's not laggy. With a few years of feature creep it will actually be a good successor to CK2. They didn't fuck it up, amazing!
 
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CK2 will be the superior game until atleast a couple expansions into CK3. I really enjoyed the changes to your dynasty tho, it now feels like you carve out your own unique family with specific skills and directions instead of ck2s which felt a bit randomized. But they removed way to much fun stuff like societies,some cultural events, great works etc. I always loved the small details in paradox games rather than the major so I might be biased but im going to continue playing ck2 for a while.
 
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BoboPussyDiver said:
CK2 will be the superior game until atleast a couple expansions into CK3. I really enjoyed the changes to your dynasty tho, it now feels like you carve out your own unique family with specific skills and directions instead of ck2s which felt a bit randomized. But they removed way to much fun stuff like societies,some cultural events, great works etc. I always loved the small details in paradox games rather than the major so I might be biased but im going to continue playing ck2 for a while.
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Yeah, CK3 has some good ideas but it's a bit thin on content when compared to its predecessor.
 
Troonos said:
I don't have a right to the product of someone's labor without just compensation.
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Hammurabis law I wont pirate Cd Project or Owlcat or Age of Decadence but i sure as hell will pirate Call of Duty. Eye for Eye treatment repaid in kind.
 
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