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A common theory now is that Bigfoot is a ancient human type creature like Homo Erectus ect.
Some people reckon that Orang Pendek are a surviving population of Homo Floresiensis.
Cryptids - Sasquatch, the Loch Ness Monster, and the like
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Some people reckon that Orang Pendek are a surviving population of Homo Floresiensis.
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Although I gotta think that the fossil record doesn't really support it in the end. Wouldn't we see more evidence?
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They're still discovering new species of Homo.
When it comes to Gigantopithicus they've only ever found a few teeth and a jaw bone, so i'd say an undiscovered Homo type species could be possible.
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The ol North American mountain ape. My favorite Bigfoot story is the Ape Canyon attack.
The best chance of a real cryptid would be something sea based, which is why I hate swimming in water where I can't see the bottom..
The best chance of a real cryptid would be something sea based, which is why I hate swimming in water where I can't see the bottom..
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Over the past 20 years, recording technology has become so prolific, so high-quality, and so easily disseminable to the public.
And yet, the "best" evidence for the existence of Bigfoot is a couple seconds of grainy 9mm film and the "best" evidence for Nessie are 50+ year old polaroids....
That should tell you how likely it is these things are real, and not hoaxes.
As it gets easier in theory to get good evidence of Bigfoot, Nessie and UFOs, the pool of "Credible" sightings is dwindling. It's now easier than ever to get a photograph of weird phenomenon, that meteor that lit up Russia a few years back? LIterally NOBODY knew it was coming, yet, at least 4 different car dashcams got good pictures of it.. And yet, all the trailcams and infrared scopes and motion sensors on the planet can't catch a glimpse of a shambling ape-man?
If cryptids like Bigfoots existed we'd see a lot more of them by now, and not just inadvertently caught on security cameras that weren't even looking for him. I think we'd see their bones in the fossil records, their remains preserved in Native artifacts, or the remains of one that died would be found before it had completely rotted away, someone's' dog would bring home a piece of one, or some loggers would find one that fell out of a tree or something, there is no such thing as an animal that can live in close proximity with humans for millions of years and NOT be detected in any way due ot some natural kind of willey we don't understand...
Humans try and fail to cover up the fact they existed in some place all time time, there's no way some giant ape with at least equal intellegence would do any better, eventually, one of them would get drunk and wander into traffic, despite any "bigfoot code" they had to keep themselves hidden from observation.
So you aren't just positing some unknown ape species, you're proposing one that's gone hundreds of human years undetected despite the fact we can now read your license plate from ORBIT....
YEah, sure....
Don't get me wrong, it would be awesome if they did exist, but the same holds true for unicorns, and aside from the stuffed plush variety, who really thinks they're real?
And yet, the "best" evidence for the existence of Bigfoot is a couple seconds of grainy 9mm film and the "best" evidence for Nessie are 50+ year old polaroids....
That should tell you how likely it is these things are real, and not hoaxes.
As it gets easier in theory to get good evidence of Bigfoot, Nessie and UFOs, the pool of "Credible" sightings is dwindling. It's now easier than ever to get a photograph of weird phenomenon, that meteor that lit up Russia a few years back? LIterally NOBODY knew it was coming, yet, at least 4 different car dashcams got good pictures of it.. And yet, all the trailcams and infrared scopes and motion sensors on the planet can't catch a glimpse of a shambling ape-man?
If cryptids like Bigfoots existed we'd see a lot more of them by now, and not just inadvertently caught on security cameras that weren't even looking for him. I think we'd see their bones in the fossil records, their remains preserved in Native artifacts, or the remains of one that died would be found before it had completely rotted away, someone's' dog would bring home a piece of one, or some loggers would find one that fell out of a tree or something, there is no such thing as an animal that can live in close proximity with humans for millions of years and NOT be detected in any way due ot some natural kind of willey we don't understand...
Humans try and fail to cover up the fact they existed in some place all time time, there's no way some giant ape with at least equal intellegence would do any better, eventually, one of them would get drunk and wander into traffic, despite any "bigfoot code" they had to keep themselves hidden from observation.
So you aren't just positing some unknown ape species, you're proposing one that's gone hundreds of human years undetected despite the fact we can now read your license plate from ORBIT....
YEah, sure....
Don't get me wrong, it would be awesome if they did exist, but the same holds true for unicorns, and aside from the stuffed plush variety, who really thinks they're real?
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Most of the time it's just a bear or a dog with mange. Sometimes its a washed up, heavily decomposed whale carcass. Or a dead raccoon. I want to believe but I've become cynical.
The classic Nessie photo has been debunked. I don't believe the Patterson film has been definitively debunked, although the lack of corroborating evidence is compelling.
The classic Nessie photo has been debunked. I don't believe the Patterson film has been definitively debunked, although the lack of corroborating evidence is compelling.
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People have tried to find the golden bullet in the Patterson film for years that definitively debunks/authenticates it, and I"m with you, the fact nobody else has ever gotten film of another one to compare it to tells me that it's a guy in an ape suit with 99% certainty.
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I always liked the U 28 monster, since it's such an odd story. One ship blows up another ship and accidentally blasts some giant seagoing crocodile along with it.
http://www.cryptopia.us/site/2010/11/u-28-abomination-atlantic-ocean/
http://www.cryptopia.us/site/2010/11/u-28-abomination-atlantic-ocean/
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The damn suit had breasts. Hairy breasts. That's the detail that still bugs me. Either they filmed a female bigfoot or when Patternson had the suit made he said, "Give it boobies! That'll fuck with 'em!"
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Even with modern HD cameras wild Animals especially shy ones are still extremely hard to film.
Now imagine a creature that is extremely shy of humans and has intelligence which is extremely comparable to our own, It's not unreasonable to think that a creature like that could stay hidden for so long?
With hundreds, even thousands of sightings every year there's definitely something going on.
Now imagine a creature that is extremely shy of humans and has intelligence which is extremely comparable to our own, It's not unreasonable to think that a creature like that could stay hidden for so long?
With hundreds, even thousands of sightings every year there's definitely something going on.
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sasquatch yes. the rest no, except possibly deep sea weirdness that we'll find eventually.
I did a ton of research into them a year or so back. Really interesting stories but... no, sadly enough, knowing anatomy and mammalian biology rules out most.
I do like the krasue, which is an obscure one to the west, and there was a South African one that is basically a massive bat with a giant dick that rapes guys, in their own beds. if they go sleep outside and tell people they were raped it won't come back. if they sleep in their own bed and don't, it comes back every night.
I guess there's areas where all the men sleep on their porches.
of course they're both totally not real, but still, folklore is some amazing shit.
as far as photos and satellites not seeing Bigfoot, think about search and rescue efforts. deep woods are where they're searching. you can't see through the canopy, you've got hundred square miles to cover or more, all that. if that person was purposely avoiding being found, there are places it would be impossible to find them. big west coast forests, the Rockies, any larger undisturbed area. they may retreat from logging, human noises (amazonian tribes stay uncontacted because they do this).
I don't really think it's real, but it's possible.
I did a ton of research into them a year or so back. Really interesting stories but... no, sadly enough, knowing anatomy and mammalian biology rules out most.
I do like the krasue, which is an obscure one to the west, and there was a South African one that is basically a massive bat with a giant dick that rapes guys, in their own beds. if they go sleep outside and tell people they were raped it won't come back. if they sleep in their own bed and don't, it comes back every night.
I guess there's areas where all the men sleep on their porches.
of course they're both totally not real, but still, folklore is some amazing shit.
as far as photos and satellites not seeing Bigfoot, think about search and rescue efforts. deep woods are where they're searching. you can't see through the canopy, you've got hundred square miles to cover or more, all that. if that person was purposely avoiding being found, there are places it would be impossible to find them. big west coast forests, the Rockies, any larger undisturbed area. they may retreat from logging, human noises (amazonian tribes stay uncontacted because they do this).
I don't really think it's real, but it's possible.
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To be honest i'm trying my best not to be overly spergy about this as I was obsessed with Cryptozoology when i was younger and still am a bit. Got about 8 books on Bigfoot , numerous others on multiple creatures and the entire Monster Quest collection.
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@resonancer It would be impossible to find a single person, maybe, but not just ANY person. There's a difference between not being able to find Joe Blow, of Tacoma, Washington who is hiding somewhere in the woods versus not finding a single human at all in ALL of the Cascades after 30 years of looking.
And it doesn't really matter if Bigfoot "doesn't want' to be found, and is "avoiding" us. So are plenty of other large fauna, like bears and moose, and we've got enough photos of them to make a new calendar every year.
A single sasquatch may be able to avoid the dragnet, but not ALL of them. To get a meaningful sized population that can breed enough to keep the species alive, and also not inbreed it to death, would mean you'd need THOUSANDS of these things, and that's' where the main evidence problem comes from for me: explaining how nobody ever finds the remains of a dead one of a population large enough that it should be producing, well, dead ones. Aside from accidents like getting hit by a car or drowning, these things have got to age, get old, get sick, and die like everything else. Yet, no one has ever found a carcass? In any state? From fresh to fossil? Sorry,no sell.
Humans, nominally the smartest organisms on the planet, eventually make mistakes, so even if you want to propose human-level intelligence, you still haven't explained why they have this super ability to crumble to dust the instant their heart stops ticking. Unless you think there's only one, in which case it'd have to be immortal too on top of everything else that would explain the lack of tangible, observable proof.
The loopholes you have to keep inventing to explain the total lack of evidence that should be there is exactly why he's mythological, only a magical being could exist in the thousands and yet leave not a conclusive trace.
I used to be a big (ha) Bigfoot proponent as a kid, but, as I grew up, no matter how much I didn't want to believe it, I had to admit, if science and logic are followed rigorously, no claim of Bigfoot passes the test of why we can't find one.
That said, I'm more than willing to believe in deep-sea creatures we haven't found yet because of the challenges involved in going looking for them (We've put more men on the Moon more often than sent to the bottom of the Marianas Trench) but a land-based giant ape indigenous to North AMerican woodlands? Not a chance. But I'll happily eat crow if someone drags one into the Game Warden and asks for a tag.
And it doesn't really matter if Bigfoot "doesn't want' to be found, and is "avoiding" us. So are plenty of other large fauna, like bears and moose, and we've got enough photos of them to make a new calendar every year.
A single sasquatch may be able to avoid the dragnet, but not ALL of them. To get a meaningful sized population that can breed enough to keep the species alive, and also not inbreed it to death, would mean you'd need THOUSANDS of these things, and that's' where the main evidence problem comes from for me: explaining how nobody ever finds the remains of a dead one of a population large enough that it should be producing, well, dead ones. Aside from accidents like getting hit by a car or drowning, these things have got to age, get old, get sick, and die like everything else. Yet, no one has ever found a carcass? In any state? From fresh to fossil? Sorry,no sell.
Humans, nominally the smartest organisms on the planet, eventually make mistakes, so even if you want to propose human-level intelligence, you still haven't explained why they have this super ability to crumble to dust the instant their heart stops ticking. Unless you think there's only one, in which case it'd have to be immortal too on top of everything else that would explain the lack of tangible, observable proof.
The loopholes you have to keep inventing to explain the total lack of evidence that should be there is exactly why he's mythological, only a magical being could exist in the thousands and yet leave not a conclusive trace.
I used to be a big (ha) Bigfoot proponent as a kid, but, as I grew up, no matter how much I didn't want to believe it, I had to admit, if science and logic are followed rigorously, no claim of Bigfoot passes the test of why we can't find one.
That said, I'm more than willing to believe in deep-sea creatures we haven't found yet because of the challenges involved in going looking for them (We've put more men on the Moon more often than sent to the bottom of the Marianas Trench) but a land-based giant ape indigenous to North AMerican woodlands? Not a chance. But I'll happily eat crow if someone drags one into the Game Warden and asks for a tag.
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Right on, man. Same here. As utterly analytical and logic based as I am, I still WANT to believe in gigantopithicus americanus. I'll shit all over the shows and point out how fake they are, then be all 'squatch hunter' when someone doubts it.
To wit: in the northeastern United States , there is ABSOLUTELY mountain lions that have either always lived here or have migrated from the west. For years all anyone could find was tracks and some blurry trail cam pics. Eventually one was hit by a car in Greenwich Ct. Even then, the EPA claims it was a pet that got loose or an aberration. Mainly because they don't want people thinking there's a known Mankiller stalking our trails. So, if a large, cunning carnivore can exist in one of the most populated regions of the US.. who knows.
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I've loved cryptozoology ever since I was a child. Now, I don't believe the really famous ones like Bigfoot, the Chupacabra, Nessie, the Jersey Devil etc. are real - I just like them as scary monster stories. And as others have said their sightings might be a mixture of misidentifications, hoaxes and people just lying for the lulz or financial gain.
I do however think there's a good possibility that some animals commonly listed as cryptids might (still) be real. It could be possible that a few thylacines still knock about in remote parts of Tasmania or that a few sightings of big cats in places where there should be no big cats are down to some idiot thinking having a panther as a pet was a good idea and it escaped or was set loose. Or whatever weird shit might be lurking in the oceans.
Anyway, my fav has always been Mothman, he's the creepiest of them all.
I do however think there's a good possibility that some animals commonly listed as cryptids might (still) be real. It could be possible that a few thylacines still knock about in remote parts of Tasmania or that a few sightings of big cats in places where there should be no big cats are down to some idiot thinking having a panther as a pet was a good idea and it escaped or was set loose. Or whatever weird shit might be lurking in the oceans.
Anyway, my fav has always been Mothman, he's the creepiest of them all.
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Mothman mythology is like supermans powers: it's anything you want it to be depending on the story. Mothman is cryptid-prophetic-Angel-alien-psychic-demon-man-owl-monster.
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