Cryptids - Sasquatch, the Loch Ness Monster, and the like

[AnOminous]

I don't think it really matters what terrible crimes our ancestors committed 30,000 years before we figured out writing.

Anthropologists tend to disagree and are terribly interested in all the shit that went on long ago. At the very least, it's interesting. It has a lot to do with how we are today. Also, all that shit happened well before we had any formal idea of what "crimes" even were, although there is pre-writing evidence that moral codes and concepts of sin and right and wrong existed before they were written down. So did language.

I'm fascinated by our earliest cultures.

I think people with neanderthal DNA deserve reparations from anyone without it.

That's probably white people, incidentally.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

That's probably white people, incidentally.

White males specifically.

 

[TowinKarz]

As if white guilt wasn't bad enough, now I have to have male guilt, hominid guilt and homo sapiens guilt too.....

 

[FaygoFagYo]

The government is definitely hiding something, but I don't think it's Bigfoot or the like. I'm more inclined to believe their are puppeteer races (i.e. reptilians, aliens, etc.) rather than just a supernatural wild animal.

 

[Johnny Bravo]

The fact these were alive as recently as 40,000 years ago seems to indicate a big push by the part of homo sapiens sapiens, the humans who are still alive, to eliminate anything that wasn't like them enough. Humans have been terrible since prehistory. We learned genocide well before we learned writing.

Hard to have a concept of genocide when you live in a tribe of roughly 100 people and rarely see strangers. Tribes kill other tribes, not entire races. If Neanderthals were wiped out by human aggression during this early stage of our history then it only stands to reason that Neanderthals must have been a failing species, already on the road to extinction.

Hell, Hitler had access to tanks and trains and chemical weapons and fucking nukes and he still couldn't destroy the Jews. A few scattered groups of scruffy primitive humans with pointy sticks ain't gonna do shit to a thriving homonid species of similiar intelligence.

 

[TowinKarz]

Agreed.

I have no doubt we might have caved in the heads of Neandertals if we found them trying to move into "our" territory. That's natural competition.

But I have a hard time believing that early humans made a concerted effort to follow them home and wipe them out at the source. Once you chased them over the hill, you were done. No animal, not even primates, goes to the effort to deliberately genocide it's competition, it makes more sense to simply out produce and overwhelm them with numbers than to go to the costly and risky option of waging war, which you'd have to be pretty highly evolved to even logically "get" the ramifications of in the first place.

Much of the "Humans deliberately killed the Neandertal in history's first crime" is a narrative not advanced by anthropologists as much as it is by sociologists and touchy-feely people whose worldview rests to some degree on the idea that humans are bastards, and here's the proof.

 

[His Dewliness]

I think I've reached the point where I don't believe in Cryptids in the western world i.e. Bigfoot, Nessie, Mothman, that Australian worm thing. Just because most of them are described as being pretty physically big and it's hard to believe that nobody has found so much as a corpse of any of them at any point in the last 30 years or so.

I definitely believe there's some weird unknown stuff in the oceans though, since they've hardly been explored at all, I'm not sure there are any actual cryptids there though since I don't know of any tales/legends about sea creatures that aren't krakens or mermaids.

There's probably a few good cryptids in S.E. Asia and Central Africa that haven't been found though since there's tonnes of local legends and there's jungle etc that people very rarely enter. It's still pretty hard to track big cats in relatively developed areas (compared to the middle of the Congo) so I think it's very possible there's some weird creatures tucked away in the deep jungle.

 

[Hui]

Spoiler

If only...also the Mothman.

 

[Pikimon]

Unicorns are real tbh

 

[Intelligent Calcium]

Unicorns are real tbh

Yeah but they're North Koreans so fuck them.

 

[Apocalypso]

Any accounts of the Megalodon still existing?

 

[Un Platano]

Any accounts of the Megalodon still existing?

Megalodon can very confidently be declared long extinct because there's simply no way something that big could be hiding from us this whole time. The ocean is big, and it has hidden lots of big things from us (like the colossal squid), but Megalodon's not comparable to that. Megalodon lived near the surface of the water, and we know that area of the ocean enough that we don't find huge new animals there anymore. I wouldn't be that surprised if giant unknown animals keep appearing from the depths, but Megalodon isn't one of them.

 

[Big Nasty]

I saw a guy wearing this shirt earlier today:

The kicker is that I saw him at IKEA in Malmö, Sweden.

 

[Hui]

Is the Chupacabra one?

 

[Lensherr]

Megalodon can very confidently be declared long extinct because there's simply no way something that big could be hiding from us this whole time. The ocean is big, and it has hidden lots of big things from us (like the colossal squid), but Megalodon's not comparable to that. Megalodon lived near the surface of the water, and we know that area of the ocean enough that we don't find huge new animals there anymore. I wouldn't be that surprised if giant unknown animals keep appearing from the depths, but Megalodon isn't one of them.

There's a book called Meg that explains that by stating that Megaladon adapted to live in the deepest depths of the ocean (specifically the Mariana Trench), so it has been able to elude mankind's eyes.

 

[Un Platano]

There's a book called Meg that explains that by stating that Megaladon adapted to live in the deepest depths of the ocean (specifically the Mariana Trench), so it has been able to elude mankind's eyes.

What reason is there to believe that it adapted to the deep sea and has been hidden from us as a result other than pointless hope that it's still alive? I could say that any extinct sea animal- trilobites, ammonites, dunkleosteus, anything- is still alive and we just can't see them. That's not a good theory because it's unfalsifiable and the only reason to think it is because you personally wish it were true.

 

[Positron]

There's a book called Meg that explains that by stating that Megaladon adapted to live in the deepest depths of the ocean (specifically the Mariana Trench), so it has been able to elude mankind's eyes.

I won't bet on that. The abyssal depths has close to zero biological productivity, except around the isolated hydrothermal vents where giant tubeworms thrive, and the fallout of organic matter from the surface ("marine snow") is not nearly enough to sustain a reproducing community of giant sharks.

 

[Taily Puff]

I won't bet on that. The abyssal depths has close to zero biological productivity, except around the isolated hydrothermal vents where giant tubeworms thrive, and the fallout of organic matter from the surface ("marine snow") is not nearly enough to sustain a reproducing community of giant sharks.

What if they evolved into lava sharks and live in the geothermal vents now?

Checkmate kiwis.

 

[ulsterscotsman]

I'm going by what I've read.

Past drunk me is spergy and retarded.

While I love the whole cryptozoology thing I have to admit the whole "Bigfoot Community" thing is very thread worthy.
I remember back in 2012/2013 a conman called Rick Dyer claimed he shot a Bigfoot and the aftermath of it caused the gayest of gay ops on Facebook between Pro Dyer and Anti Dyer Bigfoot group such as "Bigfoot Warz". Thinking back a bunch of grown ass people and boomers running gay ops on each other and fighting on facebook over Bigfoot was hilarious.

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

No, fake animals aren't real. If they were real, they'd be animals, not cryptids.

Cryptids are bullshit.

Biologist and find species they weren't even looking for all the time. If these animals were real, and considering how much public interest is there on them, we'd more convincing proof of their existence than your redneck cousin swearin' on his mum's grave that he saw big foot once. If the sighings were real, we'd have some big foot falling into a bear trap, or a Chupacabra getting torn by guard dogs.

Hey look, this guy said it already. What sperglord said.