Cryptoland - A physical crypto island where its community can surround themselves with other like-minded individuals.

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If this isn't a joke, or a scam, hopefully it never comes to fruition because crypto obsessed egomaniacs having full access to a fairly untapped island spells disaster for the whole place.
I think the brilliance of a good scam is both being in the quantum state of being real and fake at the same time.

It's kinda like the GameStonk think; Clown world irony is kinda hard to get one's head around.

inb4 it becomes jonestown 2.0
I hope Jonestown 2.o shakes things up and goes for Tang

There's been couple people who are United States citizens who became "Cryptolanders" if you bring it up in their discord they'll ban you lmao.View attachment 2869177
 
Nothing like island lolcows. Something about islands attracts lolcows who just wanna escape reality and build a world of their own. A plus for us as a world built by lolcows is always a treat. I really hope this isn't a scam and goes far enough to actually put some guys on the island as I really want this to end up like a nerd version of lord of the flies.
 
remember FIRE festival? that's kinda what this reminds me of
That's what I saw it being described as. The Fyre Festival of Crypto. Except in this case they didn't sink some cash into Ja Rule giving it a tenuous talk up. They made a fucking CGI short film that looks like Food Fight.

Pretty close otherwise, they've apparently not even bought the island but they're already mentioning there's no 'official' age of consent. That'll get them those pedo-bucks.
 
You know that seagull from the video, well its a rig (Link to the rig) by Kamila Bianchi
They had no permission to use it to advertise their product.
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Guess their response, did they:
A)
Apologize to her
B) Offer financial compensation
C) Ignore her

Answer:
Neither they blocked her! Lmao
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You know that seagull from the video, well its a rig (Link to the rig) by Kamila Bianchi
They had no permission to use it to advertise their product.
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Guess their response, did they:
A)
Apologize to her
B) Offer financial compensation
C) Ignore her

Answer:
Neither they blocked her! Lmao
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Off to a solid start. I wouldn't be surprised if other models were stolen as well, and I wonder if they own that Cryptomonkey or whatever it's called they show on the wall of the protagonist's condo wall, or did they just right click and save it without permission.

Reddit Island 3.
How many decades do I get for free in the ball pit for my million dollar purchase?
 
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If they say that they're minting 10,000 NFTs but only a handful include land rights it's clearly some sort of lottery. 300 or whatever etherscam coins gets you one random NFT that will allow you to access the island and hang out at the club, but only the people "randomly" assigned the 60 land share NFTs will get land rights to build. If their inflow is 10k*~300 ethernonsense then they have a lot more money to make the thing semi-real.
 
These files would be too huge to archive, not too sure how reliable peertube is
 
If they say that they're minting 10,000 NFTs but only a handful include land rights it's clearly some sort of lottery. 300 or whatever etherscam coins gets you one random NFT that will allow you to access the island and hang out at the club, but only the people "randomly" assigned the 60 land share NFTs will get land rights to build. If their inflow is 10k*~300 ethernonsense then they have a lot more money to make the thing semi-real.
They're just really shit at how they explain things, there are the 60 parcels of NFTs that are land based for 319 ETH a parcel as seen earlier in the thread. The 10,000 NFTs are referring to these things which sell for like 0.15 ETH
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Also there are islands for sale and the island they want is real and on sale.
Damn, you can buy a whole Fijian island for only $12 million? That'll get you a three-bedroom condo in San Francisco. (Slight exaggeration.)

I'm willing to buy that the people organizing this are earnest but also too naive to pull it off, so comparisons to Fyre Festival seem appropriate, but when I saw the "coin pit" in the video, my mind went to DashCon too…
 
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Nothing like island lolcows. Something about islands attracts lolcows who just wanna escape reality and build a world of their own. A plus for us as a world built by lolcows is always a treat. I really hope this isn't a scam and goes far enough to actually put some guys on the island as I really want this to end up like a nerd version of lord of the flies.

You know it might be because I've recently listened to the audiobook of Devolution by Max Brooks but it's an idea I've held for a long time about the Crypto and Tech communities for a very long time these guy's are really unpractical on a fundamental level that makes this sort of enterprise inherently unviable.

If you look at the plans and designs they have for the buildings (even as rough concept) where is the resiliency any remote community needs like storage, power generation etc, I've not even seen any mention of the water source they plan to use, let alone anything like Emergency care for medical or fire let alone Police every community has one person whos the de-facto copper even if it's extra legal once it passes the size of group of a large family, more so if they are not related or have a close tie to each other.

Where is the basic infrastructure of society, is what I am getting at even in a rough planning state it's conspicuously absent.

Let's say for a second they pull it off and buy the island, set up some homes and alike and then one day there is a Tidal Wave, Tropical Storm or Tsunami etc and they have 20 to 30 people that have to survive till help arrives (and the government of Fiji is already over whelmed with its own citizens needs not a small low population island filled with tech tax exiles) where is the Emergency supplies like food, water, medical etc? where is the power generation a community like that would need to be viable let alone thrive as you know they will try and automate as much of the impedimenta of normal life as they can, for a day or two they think it will be a fun adventure but after day 3 or so it becomes trying as they can't just go "Alexa - Light the fire" to get warm at night they have to find a place to light a fire and then light said fire something not many people can do.

Let's think about Water, say they have a Well - but it gets contaminated with salt water do they have any plans for an emergency way to desalinate water or purify it that doesn't rely on high tech methods that require power?

They don't have any medical provisions so anything beyond cuts and bruses would be hard or impossible to treat competently, let alone infections that will happen.

Waste disposal, I am guessing they are planning on using septic tank systems, but flooding can and will fuck those systems over, do they have any idea how to dispose of, Human, Animal and food waist? But seeing as this is a Tech community there is a good chance they may go for a Bio-Digester those systems require a lot of maintenance before they become unviable or downright dangerous. The automation can be done to take care of the maintenance for a while but that requires electrical power they may not have, and that's if they even realise that the systems require maintenance let alone know how to do it properly.

The long and short of it is this whole venture is doomed to fail even if they manage to get the island and get people there the second things are not perfect it will fall apart.
 
I've just realized that the coin character is called "Connie" as in "This is a con"

You know that seagull from the video, well its a rig (Link to the rig) by Kamila Bianchi
They had no permission to use it to advertise their product.
View attachment 2869333
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Guess their response, did they:
A)
Apologize to her
B) Offer financial compensation
C) Ignore her

Answer:
Neither they blocked her! Lmao
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I posted it in the clown world crypto thread but they also used crazy frog and the super mario theme in the background.
 
Ok to satisfy my own Autisim I've been looking into the Island -

Nananu-I-Cake​

It may be ever so slightly better selected than I thought at first, it looks like it has a minimum of resources like Water etc to support some rough basic agriculture like a heard of sheep (but I will say it looks like it can't support much more than that), a small farm garden, and a Large dwelling for the owners and another for the "staff", access looks to be by a Boat and I can't see any place to build even a small Air Strip for anything other than a small non cargo craft or micro-lite.

The Harbour is listed as "Deep Water" and in this case and from the pictures it looks like it's a 3 fathom or 20ft clearance so enough to get a decent sized coastal cargo ship to dock and offload supplies and there are a few areas that could be used for more personal craft but nothing that would rest on the bottom as that looks rather rocky but things like Dorys, Ribs etc can just land at the beach.

Here is a picture from the sales site showing what I mean -

Screenshot 2022-01-08 at 11-28-17 Nananu-I-Cake - Fiji, South Pacific - Private Islands for Sale.png

The main problem I see is there isn't any place for real growth or it would have happened already, On the pictures there is a single track road between the buildings and the dock, it looks like they have a small drop side van and likely a people transporter or quads for day to day traffic around the place.

Screenshot 2022-01-08 at 11-32-39 Nananu-I-Cake - Fiji, South Pacific - Private Islands for Sale.png
But if you look at the already settled area you can see that it's about the most choice location on the island for any sort of serious settlement and it looks like they couldn't get more on that location in any way that would work realistically.

Incidentally just left of center at the bottom of that photo you can see the Burn Pile that's how they are doing the waist disposal - thats fine for the number of people on the island at the moment but it wont scale and would need to have a dedicated collection and incinerator cycle on the side of the island that get the most off shore wind or the place will stink. Hell if you look on the fast bottom left you scan see a second smaller pile so they are already reaching the limit of what's on the island now, or they are running a second smaller pile for human waste.

My next big concern here is power generation on the island, from all the pictures I've seen they don't have any self sustaining power generation, it's possible I've missed a wind turbine but it looks like it's run on a Generator so that means costly fuel imports by ship, or sub surface line from the mainland.

But either of those options requires currency that's recognised by the outside world at time of exchange not days or weeks from delivery to payment, currently the Fiji dollar is worth $0.47 and currently in Fiji a gallon of Fuel is $4.87 a gallon, so if they are currently using Diesel (most likely option) it already has to costing a few thousand usd a year to keep the current population going let alone a Tech heavy group, like what this would have to be just on a communications basis.


Looking at the island, if you where planning on building a small large and extended family out of the way location to be self sufficient and isolated it's great but not for anything larger, unless they plan of trading everything into another currency to make it work, they are so close to the Fiji mainland that Police let alone the government wont let them do half the stuff they want to do, a good swimmer can cross the gap.

If anything that proximity makes this even more of a joke for what they envision, I can only think of two locations they could do this with enough infrastructure to do it that's Pitcairn Island and that's a long shot just because of its location and impractical communications, or The Falklands and that's because they have a nice happy location and source of cash from being part of the UK legally but just distinct enough to open financial and legal doors into the global fiscal markets.

You could make other areas habitable on the island but it would be hard to have a connected community, even if you used local resources, and imported ones you couldn't build what they are planning hell you'd have to quarry out that small island just to make a semi decent surface for the existing roads let alone building new ones - there is a reason new roads are not built in the west unless they are absolutely necessary the materials are expensive especially when you are dealing with people who have never driven on unpaved roads on the regular they can do it for a few minutes if pushed but not much longer than that before getting over confident and sloppy and having a accident and that's in a normal car, let alone a Van or 4X4 or quad bike.

This community is doomed to fail just on the percentages, let alone the logistics and no establised island community wants nothing to do with them, as normally they are just happy the way they are.
 
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You know it might be because I've recently listened to the audiobook of Devolution by Max Brooks but it's an idea I've held for a long time about the Crypto and Tech communities for a very long time these guy's are really unpractical on a fundamental level that makes this sort of enterprise inherently unviable.

If you look at the plans and designs they have for the buildings (even as rough concept) where is the resiliency any remote community needs like storage, power generation etc, I've not even seen any mention of the water source they plan to use, let alone anything like Emergency care for medical or fire let alone Police every community has one person whos the de-facto copper even if it's extra legal once it passes the size of group of a large family, more so if they are not related or have a close tie to each other.

Where is the basic infrastructure of society, is what I am getting at even in a rough planning state it's conspicuously absent.

Let's say for a second they pull it off and buy the island, set up some homes and alike and then one day there is a Tidal Wave, Tropical Storm or Tsunami etc and they have 20 to 30 people that have to survive till help arrives (and the government of Fiji is already over whelmed with its own citizens needs not a small low population island filled with tech tax exiles) where is the Emergency supplies like food, water, medical etc? where is the power generation a community like that would need to be viable let alone thrive as you know they will try and automate as much of the impedimenta of normal life as they can, for a day or two they think it will be a fun adventure but after day 3 or so it becomes trying as they can't just go "Alexa - Light the fire" to get warm at night they have to find a place to light a fire and then light said fire something not many people can do.

Let's think about Water, say they have a Well - but it gets contaminated with salt water do they have any plans for an emergency way to desalinate water or purify it that doesn't rely on high tech methods that require power?

They don't have any medical provisions so anything beyond cuts and bruses would be hard or impossible to treat competently, let alone infections that will happen.

Waste disposal, I am guessing they are planning on using septic tank systems, but flooding can and will fuck those systems over, do they have any idea how to dispose of, Human, Animal and food waist? But seeing as this is a Tech community there is a good chance they may go for a Bio-Digester those systems require a lot of maintenance before they become unviable or downright dangerous. The automation can be done to take care of the maintenance for a while but that requires electrical power they may not have, and that's if they even realise that the systems require maintenance let alone know how to do it properly.

The long and short of it is this whole venture is doomed to fail even if they manage to get the island and get people there the second things are not perfect it will fall apart.
Ok to satisfy my own Autisim I've been looking into the Island -

Nananu-I-Cake​

It may be ever so slightly better selected than I thought at first, it looks like it has a minimum of resources like Water etc to support some rough basic agriculture like a heard of sheep (but I will say it looks like it can't support much more than that), a small farm garden, and a Large dwelling for the owners and another for the "staff", access looks to be by a Boat and I can't see any place to build even a small Air Strip for anything other than a small non cargo craft or micro-lite.

The Harbour is listed as "Deep Water" and in this case and from the pictures it looks like it's a 3 fathom or 20ft clearance so enough to get a decent sized coastal cargo ship to dock and offload supplies and there are a few areas that could be used for more personal craft but nothing that would rest on the bottom as that looks rather rocky but things like Dorys, Ribs etc can just land at the beach.

Here is a picture from the sales site showing what I mean -

Screenshot 2022-01-08 at 11-28-17 Nananu-I-Cake - Fiji, South Pacific - Private Islands for Sale.png

The main problem I see is there isn't any place for real growth or it would have happened already, On the pictures there is a single track road between the buildings and the dock, it looks like they have a small drop side van and likely a people transporter or quads for day to day traffic around the place.

Screenshot 2022-01-08 at 11-32-39 Nananu-I-Cake - Fiji, South Pacific - Private Islands for Sale.png
But if you look at the already settled area you can see that it's about the most choice location on the island for any sort of serious settlement and it looks like they couldn't get more on that location in any way that would work realistically.

Incidentally just left of center at the bottom of that photo you can see the Burn Pile that's how they are doing the waist disposal - thats fine for the number of people on the island at the moment but it wont scale and would need to have a dedicated collection and incinerator cycle on the side of the island that get the most off shore wind or the place will stink. Hell if you look on the fast bottom left you scan see a second smaller pile so they are already reaching the limit of what's on the island now, or they are running a second smaller pile for human waste.

My next big concern here is power generation on the island, from all the pictures I've seen they don't have any self sustaining power generation, it's possible I've missed a wind turbine but it looks like it's run on a Generator so that means costly fuel imports by ship, or sub surface line from the mainland.

But either of those options requires currency that's recognised by the outside world at time of exchange not days or weeks from delivery to payment, currently the Fiji dollar is worth $0.47 and currently in Fiji a gallon of Fuel is $4.87 a gallon, so if they are currently using Diesel (most likely option) it already has to costing a few thousand usd a year to keep the current population going let alone a Tech heavy group, like what this would have to be just on a communications basis.


Looking at the island, if you where planning on building a small large and extended family out of the way location to be self sufficient and isolated it's great but not for anything larger, unless they plan of trading everything into another currency to make it work, they are so close to the Fiji mainland that Police let alone the government wont let them do half the stuff they want to do, a good swimmer can cross the gap.

If anything that proximity makes this even more of a joke for what they envision, I can only think of two locations they could do this with enough infrastructure to do it that's Pitcairn Island and that's a long shot just because of its location and impractical communications, or The Falklands and that's because they have a nice happy location and source of cash from being part of the UK legally but just distinct enough to open financial and legal doors into the global fiscal markets.

I've dusted off some old skills I have to make this of the current island in about 5 minutes, so i wouldnt stand by it too much but it gives you a idea of what is likely the maximum limmit for the island -

Screenshot 2022-01-08 at 11-57-24 Nananu-I-Cake - Fiji, South Pacific - Private Islands for Sale.png

You could make other areas habitable on the island but it would be hard to have a connected community, even if you used local resources, and imported ones you couldn't build what they are planning hell you'd have to quarry out that small island just to make a semi decent surface for the existing roads let alone building new ones - there is a reason new roads are not built in the west unless they are absolutely necessary the materials are expensive especially when you are dealing with people who have never driven on unpaved roads on the regular they can do it for a few minutes if pushed but not much longer than that before getting over confident and sloppy and having a accident and that's in a normal car, let alone a Van or 4X4 or quad bike.

This community is doomed to fail just on the percentages, let alone the logistics and no establised island community wants nothing to do with them, as normally they are just happy the way they are.
Yeah but didn't you watch the video? You get a talking Lamborghini and a crypto-girlfriend of questionable age. You should totally dump 300 ETH into buying a plot. Stop thinking spend money.
 
You know it might be because I've recently listened to the audiobook of Devolution by Max Brooks but it's an idea I've held for a long time about the Crypto and Tech communities for a very long time these guy's are really unpractical on a fundamental level that makes this sort of enterprise inherently unviable.

If you look at the plans and designs they have for the buildings (even as rough concept) where is the resiliency any remote community needs like storage, power generation etc, I've not even seen any mention of the water source they plan to use, let alone anything like Emergency care for medical or fire let alone Police every community has one person whos the de-facto copper even if it's extra legal once it passes the size of group of a large family, more so if they are not related or have a close tie to each other.

Where is the basic infrastructure of society, is what I am getting at even in a rough planning state it's conspicuously absent.

Let's say for a second they pull it off and buy the island, set up some homes and alike and then one day there is a Tidal Wave, Tropical Storm or Tsunami etc and they have 20 to 30 people that have to survive till help arrives (and the government of Fiji is already over whelmed with its own citizens needs not a small low population island filled with tech tax exiles) where is the Emergency supplies like food, water, medical etc? where is the power generation a community like that would need to be viable let alone thrive as you know they will try and automate as much of the impedimenta of normal life as they can, for a day or two they think it will be a fun adventure but after day 3 or so it becomes trying as they can't just go "Alexa - Light the fire" to get warm at night they have to find a place to light a fire and then light said fire something not many people can do.

Let's think about Water, say they have a Well - but it gets contaminated with salt water do they have any plans for an emergency way to desalinate water or purify it that doesn't rely on high tech methods that require power?

They don't have any medical provisions so anything beyond cuts and bruses would be hard or impossible to treat competently, let alone infections that will happen.

Waste disposal, I am guessing they are planning on using septic tank systems, but flooding can and will fuck those systems over, do they have any idea how to dispose of, Human, Animal and food waist? But seeing as this is a Tech community there is a good chance they may go for a Bio-Digester those systems require a lot of maintenance before they become unviable or downright dangerous. The automation can be done to take care of the maintenance for a while but that requires electrical power they may not have, and that's if they even realise that the systems require maintenance let alone know how to do it properly.

The long and short of it is this whole venture is doomed to fail even if they manage to get the island and get people there the second things are not perfect it will fall apart.
You're forgetting the the networking infrastructure(cable or fiber lines) they'd need before they could even get to their gay money laundering and that takes up space too. On top of that on call techs from their ISP will need to live on the island in the very likely event a line degrades or worse a node gets damaged.
 
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