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genericwhitemale said:
I have a couple questions.

1) This is certainly a manufactured crisis by the US to make Cuba desperate enough to reach some sort of deal. Probably nothing as drastic as "dismantle your commie government or else you'll be dead in a matter of months", but probably something like ensuring they only buy oil from countries they approve of. My question is, what's stopping Mexico from selling oil to Cuba even with the threat of tariffs? I feel from Mexico's perspective it's worth calling America's bluff.
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Mexico has very little economic or diplomatic independence if America doesn't want it to. Their options are limited, and the US has ample justification to put the screws to them and it would be shockingly low cost for America and very high cost for Mexico. Strikes against the cartels in Mexico leads to reprisals by the cartels against Mexican pols and power bases, since Mexican politics, especially in the North, is built on quiet alliances between the ruling parties and the cartels, who will fucking kill pols who are against them. The cleavages in Mexico between people who want to keep things the way they are and who want to improve things are real and salient, and Morena is standing with both feet planted at either edge of a chasm that could rapidly expand.
genericwhitemale said:
2) The general shift towards hawkishness, especially with Iran, is extremely risky with a mid-term election impending. Is the hope that all these conflicts will be over and done with by October/November and voters will have forgotten about it? Or, failing that, is Trump operating on the belief that he has nothing to lose and just wants to get all his long term goals out of the way while he's still in office?
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He does have nothing to lose and everything to gain. A lack of muscular action now will mean future presidents are not committed to his policies. Bush successfully entrapped Obama and Bush into wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and his lack of resolve in rebuilding the military to destroy Iran left us with decades spent on policies with no off-ramp. For better or worse, Democrats now have no ability to back down from these foreign policy trajectories without creating deeper instability and strategic vulnerability for America. Are they actually going to go ahead and give China back oil? Hand back Iran to the mullahs? Will they even be able to in a few weeks? Even should they gain office in 28, they're stuck on a course now. They were stuck on a course toward arming Taiwan, supporting the DPP, building up deterrence in the Pacific against China, and maintaining higher baseline tariffs because of Trump 1. Their being asleep at the wheel with Biden has given them practically no constraints on Trump's executive action. Trump might have an understaffed executive branch broadly speaking, but he still has enough power to do a lot of what he wants.
genericwhitemale said:
3) If Venezuela, Cuba and Iran are all toppled, what does that mean for the list of countries the US has historically deemed to be a problem? Is it just Russia and China at that point? Would they set their eyes on somewhere like North Korea?
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It would just be Russia and China. The Norkies don't matter that much, the Kim regime appears to be generally nuclear rational for the time being. Longer-run, probably just China. Russia has some nice, somewhat inevitable Pyrrhic victories to gain on its current course and actual victories to gain with a pivot. Hard to sell, but possible. Sawing the legs out from under China one by one and meeting long-held strategic goals like securing the Western Hemisphere from a resurgence of drug-and-human-trade-fueled race communism at the borders are wins that build confidence for the base going into midterms. China can't actually get all of its oil from Russia. Russia won't settle for just one customer if it can help it, that's a strategic failure state for them also. Foreign policy wins are the wins a president can actually hand the party when Congress is recalcitrant, and they are the wins that strengthen his hand negotiating with Congress on a domestic agenda. Obama bet the farm on a similar gambit to win over Iran and secure peace in the middle east at the cost of Israel's long-term security in 2012, but it didn't exactly pan out, since his plan to be the liberal Nixon and flip Iran the way he flipped China was retarded. Religious people are significantly less rational than Chinese Communists, which is surprising, but not unreasonable. They were exiting 2 decades of strife that saw half the leadership killed or tortured before the survivors were rehabilitated since they were the only non retards left in the country. Iran was getting everything it wanted in exchange for promises to continue being allowed to do whatever it wanted, as long as they made good-faith efforts to hide it from the UN and the IAEA.
 
Cuba is preparing for the crab dance.
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They think becoming the 1st communist monarchy after North Korea will save them.
 
More protests last night:


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Mayari
 
Mr. Racewar1488 said:
Mexico is in no way able to stand up to the US. If they did, we'd start blowing up cartel targets. If Sheinbaum goes full retard she'll get Maduro'd.
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The United States is going to keep Maduro alive and well and in custody forever. Then when Latinx heads of state get uppity, they'll receive a friendly pre-recorded video message from a retired bus driver. "Hello friend. I see you are considering Anti-Americanism. I don't have any opinion on that, but let me give you a tour of my cell..."
Crex Crex said:
a country full of Castro fanboys
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We do need a villain of the week for April :smug:
 
这次我发誓死不发帖 said:
Then when Latinx heads of state get uppity, they'll receive a friendly pre-recorded video message from a retired bus driver. "Hello friend. I see you are considering Anti-Americanism. I don't have any opinion on that, but let me give you a tour of my cell..."
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It'll have to be an EDM remix and he must dance to it for it to work. The true power of "can't churro the Maduro" is the power of dance!
 

Cuba, people are now blocking the streets in protest against the dictatorship due to a lack of basic services.
⚠️🇨🇺 Cuba's electrical system suffers a TOTAL FAILURE
The Grognard said:
So it's perestroika. They at least have a few examples of how to do it and how not to do it from other past countries.
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It's the smart thing to do, they are seeing that in Venezuela the Regime was not hanged from lampposts and Chavismo still retain like 80% of their power. Must be thinking to themselves, that is much better to serve in heaven rather than rule in hell. I would do the same if I were them, the US is interested in stabilizing and pushing China out of their sphere of influence, not in doing regime changes.
 
Ahh, Cuba will soon taste the taste of freedom.
I will enjoy all the tears of commies world over.
 
lurker7274519 said:
It's the smart thing to do, they are seeing that in Venezuela the Regime was not hanged from lampposts and Chavismo still retain like 80% of their power. Must be thinking to themselves, that is much better to serve in heaven rather than rule in hell. I would do the same if I were them, the US is interested in stabilizing and pushing China out of their sphere of influence, not in doing regime changes.
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The issue with this is that the Miami Cuban expat population likely wants to derail this whole thing for their own resentful reasons. Likely demand total lustration where anyone who ever has been associated with the Communist party must be thrown out combined with harsh shock therapy.
 
The Grognard said:
The issue with this is that the Miami Cuban expat population likely wants to derail this whole thing for their own resentful reasons. Likely demand total lustration where anyone who ever has been associated with the Communist party must be thrown out combined with harsh shock therapy.
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The Venezuelan Mainstream Opposition tried to do the same, they were told to shut the fuck up. Now you have MCM getting embarrased in public interviews.

🇬🇧Officials in Cuba report an island-wide blackout in the country.
Its official.
 
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lurker7274519 said:
Cuba, people are now blocking the streets in protest against the dictatorship due to a lack of basic services.
⚠️🇨🇺 Cuba's electrical system suffers a TOTAL FAILURE
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lurker7274519 said:
🇬🇧Officials in Cuba report an island-wide blackout in the country.
Its official.
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I hope the commie faggots going to Cuba in their retarded flotilla/convoy on the 21st get to live what is a nation wide blackout. But I doubt it, they'll like port in the tourist/rich area of Havana, like in El Vedado, where there is always electricity.
 
Wow. Creating this thread 1.5 years ago, I didn’t fully expect that things would progress so quickly.

Cuba, by allowing the Cuban diaspora and their descendants to open businesses and buy property, has ceased to be a communist hermit state.

As of today, Cuba has collapsed

CUBA LIBRE, BITCHEZZZ!!!
 
Rootless Cosmopolitan said:
Wow. Creating this thread 1.5 years ago, I didn’t fully expect that things would progress so quickly.

Cuba, by allowing the Cuban diaspora and their descendants to open businesses and buy property, has ceased to be a communist hermit state.

As of today, Cuba has collapsed

CUBA LIBRE, BITCHEZZZ!!!
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I almost made a Cuba thread a couple months back until I found this one. Now you're going to have Lurker and me racing to post news from Telegram.



From the Oval Office, U.S. President Donald Trump stated that Cuba is “a very weakened nation” and said he believes he will “have the honor of taking Cuba,” either by liberating it or acting in some way regarding the island️. The president said the regime is going through one of its most fragile moments after decades of violent leadership.
 
Mr. Racewar1488 said:
From the Oval Office, U.S. President Donald Trump stated that Cuba is “a very weakened nation” and said he believes he will “have the honor of taking Cuba,” either by liberating it or acting in some way regarding the island️. The president said the regime is going through one of its most fragile moments after decades of violent leadership.
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I know it will probably not happen but I still want Trump to annex Cuba for America's 250th and then led to a long run investment in the era.

Do you think Cuba should be one state or two?
 
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