Cyberpunk 2077 Grieving Thread

[Scarlett Johansson]

Isn't his character supposed to be dead and a literal ghost in the machine?

Not that you couldn't still bang... virtually, I guess.

If kesha can have sex with a ghost (and by extension demi Moore and tori spelling lol) then anything is possible lol

I ended up waiting until the complete edition of Witcher 3 came out. What was hype like for it originally? Was there a lot of fanfare?

 

[White Devil]

If kesha can have sex with a ghost (and by extension demi Moore and tori spelling lol) then anything is possible lol

I ended up waiting until the complete edition of Witcher 3 came out. What was hype like for it originally? Was there a lot of fanfare?

I don't remember W3 getting a lot of hype cept from the book nerds. W1 and W2 were unimpressive games to say the least.

 

[Internet's Boyfriend]

The guy who played Connor in Detroit: Become Human and his wife are in the game, for some reason.


I find it funny that all these people are like "So excited to announce I'm in Cyberpunk!!!"(to the point of putting it in their twitter name) when it's probably going to turn out that they're playing some inconsequential no-name character that people are going to forget about 5 minutes after they meet them.

I don't really understand the point of this, though. Is it free publicity? This is one of the most hyped-up games, you'd think they wouldn't need it.

 

[Dom Cruise]

I don't remember W3 getting a lot of hype cept from the book nerds. W1 and W2 were unimpressive games to say the least.

I thought W2 was a well liked game and I remember there being a fair amount of hype for W3, although nothing like Cyberpunk 2077.

 

[White Devil]

I thought W2 was a well liked game and I remember there being a fair amount of hype for W3, although nothing like Cyberpunk 2077.

I mean, W2 was better than W1. There was really nowhere to go but up unless they just remade ET on Atari.

I think W3 got the usual amount of "hype", it didn't seem like anything special to me.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

The guy who played Connor in Detroit: Become Human and his wife are in the game, for some reason.
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I find it funny that all these people are like "So excited to announce I'm in Cyberpunk!!!"(to the point of putting it in their twitter name) when it's probably going to turn out that they're playing some inconsequential no-name character that people are going to forget about 5 minutes after they meet them.

I don't really understand the point of this, though. Is it free publicity? This is one of the most hyped-up games, you'd think they wouldn't need it.

It's gonna be so jaring. "Oh look, I accepted a quest from CohhCarnage, and then I shot Alanah from Funhaus, and then I got mugged by.. Who's this meant to be? Oh hi Keanu". I'd actually prefer if they were just minor characters because then it might actually be cute, but at the same time, this game might be 40-60 hours long on a rushed playthrough, so either they get all the cameos out of the way immediately or made them so vague you can miss most of them.

I think it's gonna go the way of Witcher 3; good, great, cheap, celebrated, a must-play, but ultimately forgotten by most and just sort of there on a well-deserved pedestal leaving neither a positive or negative taste in the mouth of most players, which obviously means it's a HIDDEN GEM CHUNGUUUUS to Reddit kids.

 

[2021Murder]

Another big reason for the hype is how few RPGs there have been recently. And regardless of how good this is the hype train will force at least an 88 if not 91 out of critics. How many triple A RPGs have been released the last 4 years that were good?

 

[RandomTwitterGuy]

If kesha can have sex with a ghost (and by extension demi Moore and tori spelling lol) then anything is possible lol

I ended up waiting until the complete edition of Witcher 3 came out. What was hype like for it originally? Was there a lot of fanfare?

Not as much as there is for cyberpunk. Or rather it was more contained to RPG fans, Book fans, Eastern Europeans and so on. How ever the game had great word of mouth and it continued to sell well year in and year out. Even now it is still selling millions a year it also helped in the shift to more dark fantasy was going on at the time. How ever it did not have the same mainstream appeal.

So Cyberpunk has a lot hype coming in as it has a ton of normy appeal and the hardcore fans are already sold on it.

It is a FPS so that is a +1 right there as it is easier to sell.
They have used Keanu Reaves well. If you go Incognito and go "Keanu reaves GAME" you will get a ton of 2077 stuff and they kind of make the game look like GTA, but FUTORE!!!.

So the hype is massive.

Now depending on the game it has potential to be close to as big as a GTA depending on the word of mouth.

Another big reason for the hype is how few RPGs there have been recently. And regardless of how good this is the hype train will force at least an 88 if not 91 out of critics. How many triple A RPGs have been released the last 4 years that were good?

They came out some 5 years ago, but yeah Witcher 3 and Fallout 4 where the last big successful AAA RPG's. Now i don't like Fallout 4 and i think it is a shit game, but it was successful.

 

[2021Murder]

They came out some 5 years ago,

I specifically asked for 4

 

[RandomTwitterGuy]

I specifically asked for 4

Well fuck you i gave you a extra year. Be grateful.

 

[Dom Cruise]

Are gamers harsher on games than they used to be? Everyone loves Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines (and I do too) despite the fact that the combat is total fucking garbage.

Fallout New Vegas is another beloved classic that was glitchy as hell upon release, didn't stop gamers and myself included from loving the game though.

Judging a game as more than the sum of it's parts is what should be done, but it seems weird to me that that isn't extended to more games more often, so many great games get people crying "overrated!" at the drop of a hat.

Of course to be fair what both V:tm Bloodlines and NV have in common is... good writing, for all the technical aspects of gaming we are too quick to forgot how much writing matters, good writing can absolutely makes flaws worth overlooking and hopefully Cyberpunk 2077 will be a well written game.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

Are gamers harsher on games than they used to be? Everyone loves Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines (and I do too) despite the fact that the combat is total fucking garbage.

Fallout New Vegas is another beloved classic that was glitchy as hell upon release, didn't stop gamers and myself included from loving the game though.

Judging a game as more than the sum of it's parts is what should be done, but it seems weird to me that that isn't extended to more games more often, so many great games get people crying "overrated!" at the drop of a hat.

Of course to be fair what both V:tm Bloodlines and NV have in common is... good writing, for all the technical aspects of gaming we are too quick to forgot how much writing matters, good writing can absolutely makes flaws worth overlooking and hopefully Cyberpunk 2077 will be a well written game.

I think people are more willing to forgive bugginess because it can be patched, and if it isn't, in extremis, along comes modders to fix it. However you cannot fix shitty writing or an idiot plot so easily.

As for people crying "overrated," nine times out of ten these are hipsters who just don't like something because it's popular. It comes from the same snobbish route as vinyl fanboying. "BuT aNaLOg rEpROdUcTion oN VInYl SoUnDs wARmEr AnD mORe nAtURaL!!!!1" they shriek. No. That's surface noise, clicks and pops from dust, wow and flutter, and the fact that playing a vinyl record wears it out over time so you lose more and more fidelity the more you play it. Indeed you can literally see spirals of material coming off the stylus if you look closely enough. Also, all current vinyl records are produced from a lossless digital master in the first place.

 

[Dreamer]

I don't really understand the point of this, though. Is it free publicity? This is one of the most hyped-up games, you'd think they wouldn't need it.

This isn't for publicity, they have little to nothing to gain from stuff like this, or putting some random no name youtuber in. As unlikely as it sounds i think its genuine.

I think it's gonna go the way of Witcher 3; good, great, cheap, celebrated, a must-play, but ultimately forgotten by most and just sort of there on a well-deserved pedestal leaving neither a positive or negative taste in the mouth of most players, which obviously means it's a HIDDEN GEM CHUNGUUUUS to Reddit kids.

I don't know anyone, or know of anyone who had this kind of reaction to W3, you're making it sound as if it was some sort of flavor of the month. It isn't. Its still selling steadily.

Are gamers harsher on games than they used to be? Everyone loves Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines (and I do too) despite the fact that the combat is total fucking garbage.

Fallout New Vegas is another beloved classic that was glitchy as hell upon release, didn't stop gamers and myself included from loving the game though.

Judging a game as more than the sum of it's parts is what should be done, but it seems weird to me that that isn't extended to more games more often, so many great games get people crying "overrated!" at the drop of a hat.

Of course to be fair what both V:tm Bloodlines and NV have in common is... good writing, for all the technical aspects of gaming we are too quick to forgot how much writing matters, good writing can absolutely makes flaws worth overlooking and hopefully Cyberpunk 2077 will be a well written game.

People who bitch about petty things like bugs or mediocre combat in RPGs are are most likely just not the intended audience for them. The problem 2077 has at the moment, just like W3 had back when is that it attracted people who don't like/understand the genre. They feel left out because they're not participating in the next big thing so they try out this "RPG" and it turns out they just don't like it. So now they're betrayed because the game everybody likes wasn't like Call of Duty and the gameplay was maybe not as fun as they thought it would be. But all around them everybody seems to be enjoying themselves, so they turn against the game, call it shit and people who like it normies. Because that's easier than admitting the big game just isn't for them. Simple as.
This is why F4 was such a success, because it managed to somewhat please people who liked a hoarder-shooter but didn't like an RPG. And there's more of those than actual RPG fans.

 

[Slimy Time]

This is a buy for me, but with expectations tempered. Only other full price game I brought this year was Ghost of Tsushima, and this is the other one on the list. Probably wait till the weekend to get it. So long as it is not No Man's Sky or Fallout 76 level of launch day shit, isn't boring, and I can RP different styles of gameplay, should be fine.

 

[Miller]

Are gamers harsher on games than they used to be?

Yes and that's a good thing. Games are getting more expensive, are shipped half finished and are less about games and more about "cinematic experiences", downgrades and GaaS nonsense.
If I have to pay 60-70 euros/dollars for a game, it better be playable and have 99% of its content available. I shouldn't have to wait 5 months to get all the content and 50% of the bugs/glitches fixed.

Judging a game as more than the sum of it's parts is what should be done, but it seems weird to me that that isn't extended to more games more often, so many great games get people crying "overrated!" at the drop of a hat.

Cyberpunk 2077 could be a good game, it could also be a bad one. I don't want to see a bunch of e-celebs, Soylent enthusiasts and Funhaus cunts in the actual video game. I'm fine if they advertise the game on their individual plaftforms though.
Do you think that it was a good thing to have BattleTits in Mass Effect 3, Geoff Keighley and a bunch of Hollywood people in Kojimbo's Amazon delivery game?

 

[Ruin]

Yes and that's a good thing. Games are getting more expensive, are shipped half finished and are less about games and more about "cinematic experiences", downgrades and GaaS nonsense.
If I have to pay 60-70 euros/dollars for a game, it better be playable and have 99% of its content available. I shouldn't have to wait 5 months to get all the content and 50% of the bugs/glitches fixed.


Cyberpunk 2077 could be a good game, it could also be a bad one. I don't want to see a bunch of e-celebs, Soylent enthusiasts and Funhaus cunts in the actual video game. I'm fine if they advertise the game on their individual plaftforms though.
Do you think that it was a good thing to have BattleTits in Mass Effect 3, Geoff Keighley and a bunch of Hollywood people in Kojimbo's Amazon delivery game?

W3 had e celeb cameos too. The farting trolls were Youtubers and so was one of the King of begger's men. They showed up for like five seconds and then you cut their heads off.

I imagine it's the same thing here and people are reeeeeing about fucking nothing.

 

[jje100010001]

With how hyped to all fuck this game is, a lot of people are going to be disappointed just because it isn't literally the second coming of Christ. As long as it has decent gunplay, good writing, and has the cyberpunk aesthetic matter more than Deus Ex's set dressing, I'll be happy.

I guess that's a benefit of not caring as much. Witcher 1 and 3 are in my top 5 games, and even then they both have asterisks.

Are gamers harsher on games than they used to be? Everyone loves Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines (and I do too) despite the fact that the combat is total fucking garbage.

Fallout New Vegas is another beloved classic that was glitchy as hell upon release, didn't stop gamers and myself included from loving the game though.

Judging a game as more than the sum of it's parts is what should be done, but it seems weird to me that that isn't extended to more games more often, so many great games get people crying "overrated!" at the drop of a hat.

Of course to be fair what both V:tm Bloodlines and NV have in common is... good writing, for all the technical aspects of gaming we are too quick to forgot how much writing matters, good writing can absolutely makes flaws worth overlooking and hopefully Cyberpunk 2077 will be a well written game.

IMO, decent writing, freedom of activity, and good immersive worldbuilding is enough to supplement mediocre gameplay these days. At that point, you play less so for the gameplay, and more for the world and characters that have been created.

Overall, I would compare it to a dish- a prime rib has to have good quality beef (like a minimalist game has to have good gameplay), whereas while a pad thai's ingredients are fairly ordinary, but what matters more is the synthesis of the flavors into the whole.

 

[Bumblino]

Are gamers harsher on games than they used to be? Everyone loves Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines (and I do too) despite the fact that the combat is total fucking garbage.

Fallout New Vegas is another beloved classic that was glitchy as hell upon release, didn't stop gamers and myself included from loving the game though.

Judging a game as more than the sum of it's parts is what should be done, but it seems weird to me that that isn't extended to more games more often, so many great games get people crying "overrated!" at the drop of a hat.

Of course to be fair what both V:tm Bloodlines and NV have in common is... good writing, for all the technical aspects of gaming we are too quick to forgot how much writing matters, good writing can absolutely makes flaws worth overlooking and hopefully Cyberpunk 2077 will be a well written game.

It's still a hivemind. If *insert popular e-celeb here* says "this game dookie doodoo pooperino haha poggers" they all clap and run with it. The majority are now critical because the reddit hivemind dubbed a couple games "predatory", so don't get your hopes up about people being individually aware of why something sucks or it's good. Now if you're referring to people versed in videogames and not flavour of the month game spastics then rather than harsher with them for the sake of how shit games are I think people are getting fed up with the way they monetize primarily and how reiterative games have become.

When you're criticizing games from back then it was mostly due to bugs or clunky mechanics, but they were establishing new grounds in the genre 99% of the time, VTM was a unique game really, urban fantasy wasn't even a thing that I can remember at that time, and playing as a vampire in an rpg setting was something I remember as not being the core thing of many games (like what I can remind of was that vampire nigga in sacred and that's it, maybe I'm alzheimers) so you would excuse shitty mechanics and bugs for a game that's "fresh" and that had a set price with no extra "surprise mechanics".

Now the games are stale, chopped up to pieces into stupid ass overpriced DLC and they keep stroking their microdicks spending an obnoxious amount of money into marketing and a salary bump to their millionaire CEO salary when they should've just paid the fucking devs to make an actual game. So people tolerated that behaviour for the better part of this decade, is not like they did that shit and everyone just went into an autistic rage-fit, they kept going at it. They kept pushing and pushing and eventually people said enough. Will it last? I dunno, if the AAA companies keep digging probably the demand for standards will stay, if they try to appease the epic gamer bruvs then we'll be back to square 0 at the minimum show of affection. Think of the average gamer as a battered wife, the only way it stops is if the husband beats her to death.

 

[Snekposter]

To throw my hat in with the Witcher talk, the first Witcher game came out in 2007, or just a year after Neverwinter Nights 2. By the standards of low-budget Eurojank its a surprisingly polished game, and low-budget Eurojank it is, since at the time CDPR were a bunch of no-name Poles who didn't expect anything to come of it outside Poland. Witcher 2 was certainly a much better game and held to much better standards, but it still holds up. Witcher 3 IMO murdered Bethesda, just because it broke their monopoly on open-world fantasy RPG's. Keep in mind that so much of the hype for CP2077 is specifically because of Witcher 3 and how good it was.

 

[Pickle Inspector]

I'm worried about

• The open-world elements
• The shooting mechanics
• atmosphere and theme
• vehicles and how they play into the world
• too much focus on gay overpaid actors
• not enough freedom of play (stealth vs run and gun)
• not enough roll play elements
• not enough interesting side stories
• not enough interesting real-world parallels
• not enough interesting factions with +'s and -'s
• not enough homeless
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We need DIVERSE homeless people too:

The one thing I'm worried about is the announcement they're making it shorter than the Witcher 3, maybe it's true they got a lot of complaints about Witcher 3 being too long but it sounds like a bit of a cop out.