Cyberpunk 2077 Grieving Thread

I ended up getting it after having fun with my friend. It's definitely got issues and I guess if you were expecting some hardcore RPG experience (even though all indications from the few pre release things I saw were it wasn't) that you'd be disappointed.

Important thing is I'm enjoying myself and I haven't seen any of these horrible bugs from the videos so far. Were those all console videos?
 
Cyberpunk 2077 was the last western release I was planning on buying before giving up on the western gaming scene and sticking exclusively to Japanese games. It couldn't even give me that. On a more positive note, my PSX and copy of Xenogears arrived. Plus Yakuza 3-6 was just announced for PC

DangerousGas said:
I've seen that happen IRL too. It's no less hliarious.
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Sometimes I can't tell if the jankiness is intentional or not. Like is the city popping in, or is it just holograms turning on an off

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Fashion in the near future confuses me. It's like an unholy fusion of early 90's rapper, mid 90's clubber, and modern day LA prostitute.
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As impressive as the graphics are, I find 2077s aesthetics godawful. But my hype insta died during the first in game reveal where V walks through the train carriage filled with danger hairs
 
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Dom Cruise said:
Come on guys, is it really that bad? I don't like the sound of the glitches and crashes and whatnot and of course the base PS4 and XBO versions are a disaster, but putting that aside and focusing on the game itself, is it really that bad?

I'm not trying to target anyone here but I will say that there is a cynical attitude among gamers where any game with any sufficient amount of hype has a target painted on it's back where some gamers want to see it take for a fall for whatever reason, with a game that has had as much hype as Cyberpunk, it's very easy to see it becoming a victim of it's own hype, but that doesn't mean it's actually bad though, if you go into a game wanting to hate it you're probably going to hate it.

I will say this though, if I do wind up being disappointed with Cyberpunk I may be done with video games or at least put it way on the back burner, it's just getting to be too much, the politics, the disappointments, I came close to bailing on video games back in 2014 after Bioshock Infinite disappointed me and Gamergate happened, the whole thing seemed to be going south, but I stuck with it because at the time Metal Gear Solid V was on the way, then that was a disappointment too, now the thought of having a third major disappointment just may be a case of three strikes and you're out.

It just seems like something may be fundamentally broken with video games, almost nothing seems to live up to it's full potential anymore, maybe the technology has just gotten too complicated for anyone to realistically be able to wrangle anymore, maybe the woke era of hiring people not based on talent or merit but on gender and skin color is what's killing it, I don't know.

Just please, not Cyberpunk, not this game too, you know what I mean? For fuck's sake.
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You're doing it wrong.

AAA gaming is mass market mush designed to be inoffensive and sell micro transactions to a handful of rich loons.

You also have teenagers (or people with the mental capacity of teenagers) who have a major case of sour grapes and want to argue why their overpriced plastic brick is better than everyone else's overpriced plastic brick, and PC gamers who want to justify spending £3000 on getting the latest RTX 8 billion graphics card from a scalper that offers no noticeable visual upgrade from a £100 card 3 years ago.

As for Cyberpunk specifically, people have hyped this game up to impossible levels. Instead of expecting a game, they want it to be a limitless open world with almost infinite content, all of it to a quality never seen before. Instead of an incremental step forward from previous open world first person RPGs.

There are also activists who are trying to piggyback on the games popularity to score political points.

I know I keep bringing it up, but I think Resident Evil 2 Remake is a great example. People waited for that ever since Resident Evil Remake on GameCube. When it was finally revealed, there was no shortage of complaints. The outfits were different, there were no giant spiders, the lack of fixed camera was the worst thing ever, and so on. Then the game came out and people liked it, and within a week the haters had pretty much vanished.

Doom 2016 was the same. Lots of complaints pre-release and early on. Now remembered as a great game with the haters being forgotten.

I'm not saying Cyberpunk will be remembered as a great game. Right now it's looking too buggy, but the haters continue to play it despite claiming it's the worst thing since Fallout 76.
 
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Pargon said:
Gamers getting hornswoggled by hype will never, ever change, which is why the machine will never die. The consumer base has had 15 years to wise the fuck up and even with the benefit of instant worldwide communication they still fall for it every time and allow their expectations to become impossibly inflated.

The worst part is that for all their anger, the games still make money. This will never change.
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Yeah but it's just a game people thought looked cool and like it might be fun to play. That's it. As far as I can tell it still looks cool and is fun to play, it's not just some magic New Vegas Killer or whatever gay shit people were hyping it up to be. Deus Ex Human Revolution isn’t as good as the original, but for people who are just expecting something on that level it appears like a step up.
The only anger I see about it is this thread, and trannies on Twitter.
 
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Except that CDPR games don't have a stellar reputation as being easily moddable, unlike for example Bethesda games. Just look at nexusmods.com, The Witcher 3 which was marketed by the CDPR to be very moddable has just over 4k mods there, most of which are really minor alterations to some very specific thing in the game. One of the reasons I've heard cited in the modding community is that it's just extremely painstaking and technically hard to make mods work in TW3, restricting modding to some minor gameplay and texture changes.

Contrast that with Skyrim(65K+ mods in nexus alone) or Fallout 4(35k+ mods), games which are just as popular as The Witcher 3, but which are built from the beginning to be more easily moddable. They have mods that literally make the base game something completely different, and with enough skill and patience one can literally reshape almost any aspect of these games to be something else, or add functionality that wasn't there to begin with.

TLDR; I'm not very optimistic on how moddable the CP2077 will be.
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From what I read, Witcher 2 had pretty good modding tools apparently which is why people were hopeful but then they dropped the ball with W3.
 
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Rekkington said:
Yeah but it's just a game people thought looked cool and like it might be fun to play. That's it. As far as I can tell it still looks cool and is fun to play, it's not just some magic New Vegas Killer or whatever gay shit people were hyping it up to be. Deus Ex Human Revolution isn’t as good as the original, but for people who are just expecting something on that level it appears like a step up.
The only anger I see about it is this thread, and trannies on Twitter.
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I agree completely, and I dunno if it's my age or what but I was expecting this game to be visually overwhelming as other recent AAA games have been for me, and it isn't, even with the choppy frame rate. I'm actually enjoying it and it's not too much to look at.

Really not understanding what the massive problem is with it. It ain't great but "unplayable" is just hyperbolic whining.
 
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From what I read, Witcher 2 had pretty good modding tools apparently which is why people were hopeful but then they dropped the ball with W3.
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I refuse to believe that, considering that TW 2 has only 475 mods in Nexus. If I remember correctly, which I might not, the same modding tools i.e. REDkit or whatever it was called, was used in both games.
 
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My mind is foggy, but I could have sworn even fucking Oblivion had better AI by the sounds of it.

Am I off base or?
 
Least Concern said:
On the expected reaction from viddaya geem germbalists. If tl;dw, you can just start at 4:00.

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That review was a pretty bad review. Why make a review of a game if you're not even going to play the features of the game?

SidAlpha commented on this.


This woman deducted points from Pokemon Alpha Sapphire Version because it had too much water in it. She also complained about the Days Gone freakers being white even though that was a narrative element in the game. Maybe it's because she's a woman, I don't know. Not even Filip Muicin is this petty and lazy.

Then white knights came to defend her when The Quartering commented on this without actually watching his video.

Like I've said before, journalism is dead.

HomerSimpson said:
Been fucking around with it. Not too glitchy on my end, but, in terms of NPC and shit , bland. One thing that I noticed is how the clothes act. Like appearing nude when fully clothed, or clothed when nude. No reaction to walking around nude either. No comments about it at all from NPCs, and the game just makes you clothed I think. The game determines your gender on voice alone. Made a female character with a "masculine" voice, and the characters are treating me like a man. So far, glad I pirated it. Might be a little more fun later.
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Fluoxetine Man said:
After playing it yesterday, it's fun, but disappointing. Wait until the GOTY edition next year with all the bug fixes.
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I'll buy the game, but at a later date, and when I:
  • Get a better PC (probably in the middle of the Spring 2021, idk)
  • Get a PS5 (whenever that happens), or
  • They fix the damn game on PS4.
Based on the reviews, I'll wait a while. I had a hunch something like this would happen at launch.
Sten Of The Beresaad said:
Played the game, finished the game, uninstalled the game.

Let's assume there's no glitches/crashes, no politically-motivated controversies and that there'll be future additions to enhance the gaming experience (DLCs etc.) With that out of the way, would this game be good?

No.

The game's fundamental problem is that it doesn't seem to know what it wants to be. It pays homage to all kinds of classics and motifs from the Cyberpunk genre, but it falls flat on its face in their implementation 'cause at its core it's just a cheap nostalgia lane that doesn't offer anything new to said genre (For an in-depth look at this, see John Semley's Cyberpunk Is Dead.) On that note, the game's gameplay is equally sub-par and offers nothing innovative in graphics (or game mechanics.) Half of the time you'll feel like you're watching GTA V and Borderlands adopting a Far Cry and Tumblr drug baby. The other is looking at a story and lore as bland as Keanu Reeve's voice acting. I rate it a The Last of Us II out of Life is Strange.
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From what I understand, it is nostalgia galore. Misty is inspired by Pris, or kinda is Pris for that matter. There's references to The Matrix here. Etcetera.

Which is alright for me, but it pales in comparison to cyberpunk medium like Ghost in the Shell: SAC. I like GitS because technology is not a big deal so much as the philosophy and politics that have been conjured up as a result of the technology. It's not just an "us against the system"-type shtick.
 
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Pargon said:
I agree completely, and I dunno if it's my age or what but I was expecting this game to be visually overwhelming as other recent AAA games have been for me, and it isn't, even with the choppy frame rate. I'm actually enjoying it and it's not too much to look at.

Really not understanding what the massive problem is with it. It ain't great but "unplayable" is just hyperbolic whining.
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The real problem seems to be console plebs will need to wait a month or two cause base versions of XB1 and PS4 are having reports that it is borderline unplayable, as in textures take like 10-15 seconds to load which makes driving impossible.

I agree with your overall point though that if people are taking E3 game "footage" seriously they're always gonna be the dopes sitting at the slot machines.
 
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I am absolutely loving this game.

I am also loving this train wreck of a launch, the bashing of retarded 'journalists' who didn't even play most of the game, the salt from reddit and seeing people shit all over CDPR (and rightly so) for being duplicitous fucks about the base current gen console fuckery And their cringelord deceitful marketing campaign in the run up to launch. It's like I'm getting the best of both worlds and I could not be happier.

Still, I do feel bad for folks who shelled out hard earned money on a AAA game that turned out to be shit for them, though.
 
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MsStevieMarie said:
Watched Pewdiepie play this. It looks ok but I can't see why it took so long to come out. Funnily enough he seems to be enjoying it more than TLOU2.
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I'm on the side of the theories that the game was started and scrapped multiple times and the current version isn't actually 8 years of work. Also that there was a disconnect between the teams and people leaving and starting over. It's not a Crackdown 3 total and complete lie situation, but it seems like with like 100 small tweaks it could be way better.

Also, side note, I don't even think people want a big open world anymore. Metro Exodus showed us a great balance in that regard, so did the Deus Ex games. I liked Assassins Creed Odyssey due to the scale and beauty of it all, but you quickly figure out they only made like 7 NPC models they just cycle through to save time. But that's always the tradeoff and by now everyone knows that (especially Ubisoft.)
 
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So I put about 80 hours into Cyberpunk so far. It is very okay. Bugs aren't terrible but they are not acceptable in their current state. The world is pretty but the combat is trash, as is the driving.

It's no New Vegas. That's for sure. So I think I will play Dragon Age Origins this weekend instead.
 
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Dark Edea said:
So I put about 80 hours into Cyberpunk so far. It is very okay. Bugs aren't terrible but they are not acceptable in their current state. The world is pretty but the combat is trash, as is the driving.

It's no New Vegas. That's for sure. So I think I will play Dragon Age Origins this weekend instead.
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Uh, the game was released 40 hours ago?
 
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