Cyberpunk 2077 Grieving Thread

The metacritic user ratings for PC, which is supposedly "the best" version, is replete with pain and hate.
Full of scorn and wailing for having wasted so much time on a deceptive product.
Reading these testimonials gives me sheer joy.
I'm genuinely surprised Metacritic aren't fudging the numbers or hiding/deleting negative reviews on this one. They've certainly done it for other AAA games in recent years.
 
I'm genuinely surprised Metacritic aren't fudging the numbers or hiding/deleting negative reviews on this one. They've certainly done it for other AAA games in recent years.
maybe polack PR doesn't do payola as well as western devs do.
 
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It's been almost two months and we only have two tiny hotfixes that introduced more bugs than they fixed. I'm pretty sure support will be dropped soon and DLC's cancelled. I have heard it theorized that CDPR is refusing to fix the game because admitting it's broken would give ammo the the investors that are suing them.
 
It's been almost two months and we only have two tiny hotfixes that introduced more bugs than they fixed. I'm pretty sure support will be dropped soon and DLC's cancelled. I have heard it theorized that CDPR is refusing to fix the game because admitting it's broken would give ammo the the investors that are suing them.
Which they're going to lose anyhow so I don't know what the point of not admitting anything will do.

JFC just take the damn game and shoot it in the back of the head CDPR. You failed to make a good game. You. Failed. Take your beating and your failure to manage and pull the game from the shelves. Stop tripping over yourselves and wasting resources trying to fix a game that's already been released because you're not going to make any money off of it. And Marcin Iwinski, fuck off. Just quit and stop running your mouth. You lead the company to this catastrophic failure. You did. That wasn't your employees and that wasn't the investors holding you on a leash, that was your stupidity in action. You wasted an entire decade of development because you couldn't make up your mind about what kind of game you wanted. You forced your employees to redevelop your game allegedly three fucking times because you just wanted to hang out with Keanu Reeves. You wasted money on a fake fucking E3 trailer that you couldn't realistically develop and set up false impressions for your investors and customers. You lied about the performance on consoles and misled customers into thinking it was totally playable and those were your fucking words. YOU did all of this. This wasn't your investors, this wasn't your employees, this wasn't your customers blowing things out of proportion, this was you.

Sorry if this post came off MATI but I'm utterly fed up with Marcin Iwinski and I hope investors rip him out of his CEO office and this game is thrown off the shelves. Seeing this guy make phoned in attempts to 'fix' this game and act like a cranky old fuck towards people he openly betrayed just makes me angry. Fucking rot.
 
Which they're going to lose anyhow so I don't know what the point of not admitting anything will do.

JFC just take the damn game and shoot it in the back of the head CDPR. You failed to make a good game. You. Failed. Take your beating and your failure to manage and pull the game from the shelves. Stop tripping over yourselves and wasting resources trying to fix a game that's already been released because you're not going to make any money off of it. And Marcin Iwinski, fuck off. Just quit and stop running your mouth. You lead the company to this catastrophic failure. You did. That wasn't your employees and that wasn't the investors holding you on a leash, that was your stupidity in action. You wasted an entire decade of development because you couldn't make up your mind about what kind of game you wanted. You forced your employees to redevelop your game allegedly three fucking times because you just wanted to hang out with Keanu Reeves. You wasted money on a fake fucking E3 trailer that you couldn't realistically develop and set up false impressions for your investors and customers. You lied about the performance on consoles and misled customers into thinking it was totally playable and those were your fucking words. YOU did all of this. This wasn't your investors, this wasn't your employees, this wasn't your customers blowing things out of proportion, this was you.

Sorry if this post came off MATI but I'm utterly fed up with Marcin Iwinski and I hope investors rip him out of his CEO office and this game is thrown off the shelves. Seeing this guy make phoned in attempts to 'fix' this game and act like a cranky old fuck towards people he openly betrayed just makes me angry. Fucking rot.
I'd like to add something to this.

They have no excuse for this, because they could've seen what happens with a half-assed release.

Do Polacks not have Internet? Did they not see the reviews for Fallout 76? Or WWF 2k20? Or watch other releases that were shit awful? It's like some retard driving a car towards a cliff that drops off into a fucking volcano, with huge road signs warning 'DANGER: LAVA AHEAD'.

That's what stuns me. They had to know this was going to be a disaster, and they went ahead with it anyways.
 
I'd like to add something to this.

They have no excuse for this, because they could've seen what happens with a half-assed release.

Do Polacks not have Internet? Did they not see the reviews for Fallout 76? Or WWF 2k20? Or watch other releases that were shit awful? It's like some retard driving a car towards a cliff that drops off into a fucking volcano, with huge road signs warning 'DANGER: LAVA AHEAD'.

That's what stuns me. They had to know this was going to be a disaster, and they went ahead with it anyways.
They probably did and there were two thoughts in the back of their heads that ended up being the deciding factors; either they spent way too much resources on the game and investors were starting to get antagonistic because their returns were consistently delayed so they thought "fuck it, release it on the shelves, we gotta get something out on the market!" or they knew how bad the game was with the same reasons listed above, but they thought the magnitude of their consequences weren't going to be this intense so they could walk it off and life goes on and they could move on. I don't think they were chomping at the bit to be billionaires or they're greedy, it's like some kid who procrastinates on his science fair project he's required to do for school so he has to throw out something to get credit. Turns out you fuck with people who are just about as equal with you in terms of power and they'll rain hellfire like what investors are doing right now.
 
Which they're going to lose anyhow so I don't know what the point of not admitting anything will do.

JFC just take the damn game and shoot it in the back of the head CDPR. You failed to make a good game. You. Failed. Take your beating and your failure to manage and pull the game from the shelves. Stop tripping over yourselves and wasting resources trying to fix a game that's already been released because you're not going to make any money off of it. And Marcin Iwinski, fuck off. Just quit and stop running your mouth. You lead the company to this catastrophic failure. You did. That wasn't your employees and that wasn't the investors holding you on a leash, that was your stupidity in action. You wasted an entire decade of development because you couldn't make up your mind about what kind of game you wanted. You forced your employees to redevelop your game allegedly three fucking times because you just wanted to hang out with Keanu Reeves. You wasted money on a fake fucking E3 trailer that you couldn't realistically develop and set up false impressions for your investors and customers. You lied about the performance on consoles and misled customers into thinking it was totally playable and those were your fucking words. YOU did all of this. This wasn't your investors, this wasn't your employees, this wasn't your customers blowing things out of proportion, this was you.

Sorry if this post came off MATI but I'm utterly fed up with Marcin Iwinski and I hope investors rip him out of his CEO office and this game is thrown off the shelves. Seeing this guy make phoned in attempts to 'fix' this game and act like a cranky old fuck towards people he openly betrayed just makes me angry. Fucking rot.
The Polish government also gave them money too. So there's that. I mean, at this point they're just going to kill it. I don't see how they do much of anything else. Though they are going to make microtransaction hell multiplayer for it, I guarantee it. It wasn't actually Iwinski who fucked it up, it was Badowski. He actually completely fucked the entire project up when he became director. He was co-founder so there's the rumor he butted his way into the project. The Witcher 3 had 3 directors, none of whom worked on Cyberpunk. I have no idea why they didn't keep the directors on, but it just feels like Badowski screaming "I WANNA DO A GAME DADDY". I mean, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. If you've got a winning team, you keep that team together.

Basically once Badowski took over as Director, he pissed the Witcher 3 team off so fucking much that they pretty much all exited the company. The problem is it started out as an RPG, but Badowski seemingly wanted to combine it with GTA for some unknown fucking reason. Like dude, you're an RPG studio right now, you don't have the experience to branch out into multiple genres. He was told this by the Witcher 3 devs and he brushed it off. The reason why it was re-developed so many times is probably because it was originally a lot more RPG focused, and a lot of those elements had to be ripped out or re-done. Badowski pictured himself on par with Rockstar, which has multiple studios all over the world which is why they can do what they do. Badowski had alienated all the experienced Devs and was forced to hire much more inexperienced people. Badowski wanted to copy major gaming studios and have celebrities in the game. "HAVE YOU HEARD OF JOHNNY SILVERHAND?" Nigger, no one has heard of him. An obscure character in an obscure RPG with outdated references. Thank fuck they didn't make him like Bowie. The only reason people knew him was because of Keanu Reeves and that was all for normies. "YOU GET TO BE PARTNERS WITH KEANU". I don't give a fuck.

Management was utterly fucking incompetent, there were no pipelines to anything. Some things were made multiple times because people didn't realize it was done. You can see this Frankenstein patchwork in the game. One of the bugs I experienced was in the Voodoo Boys quests in the mall. I finished it, but the mall was still in complete lockdown. However my minimap was thinking the area was open and was guiding me toward locked areas. It was then I experienced just how closed off the game was. I couldn't break any glass to jump out a window. I couldn't bust out a door. I was trapped because a flag hadn't been tripped. Just goes to show how shitty and linear it was.

I mean, the management was so fucking bad. I think at the very least, Badowski needs to be ousted. He needs to be shit canned because he completely fucked up every aspect of the game. You can read the news and see the shift. The Keanu Reeves bullshit, the GTA knock-off shit, the confused development, the hemorrhaging of talent, all leads right up to Badowski on director. The dude should be gone. His incompetence has lead to government investigations and two separate investor class actions. Though Iwinski is just as much of a faggot. He lied completely throughout the development process and lacked the balls to reign Badowski in. Like did Badowski pin him down and castrate him? Or was Iwinski just fucking drunk 24/7 on brake fluid, not really giving a shit, giving interviews with this deer in headlights look because every time he sobered up he realized what a shit-pile the game was and he had to defend it.

It is utterly baffling that they would take all that capital (both money-wise and faith-wise) and just fucking burn it to the ground. They made money on this but no one will ever trust them again. Why fucking should they? I expect they'll just do enough to put it back on the Playstation store and just try to build the 'multiplayer experience' to 'save' it. I imagine there will be enough fucking retards who will try it out because they still believe CD Projekt is 'one of the good ones'. Though I do hope their multiplayer fails. Fuck them.
So wait two months later is it still off the MS / Sony store?
Yup. With no signs of it returning anytime soon. If they can even get the fucking thing to work anymore.
I'd like to add something to this.

They have no excuse for this, because they could've seen what happens with a half-assed release.

Do Polacks not have Internet? Did they not see the reviews for Fallout 76? Or WWF 2k20? Or watch other releases that were shit awful? It's like some retard driving a car towards a cliff that drops off into a fucking volcano, with huge road signs warning 'DANGER: LAVA AHEAD'.

That's what stuns me. They had to know this was going to be a disaster, and they went ahead with it anyway
I give you the ending scene from 'The Big Short'


They did not care. They figured if they fucked up, it was YOUR fault. They just wanted your money at the end of the day. There's no fucking way they believe in this product. Don't make me laugh. They knew exactly what they were selling. It was a shit-pile. They hyped it up, used the capital from the Witcher 3, made themselves boatloads of cash. Then they just blamed gamers and consumers when it fucked up. "THE PC PORT IS FINE, ITS YOUR 3090 ISN'T NEXT GEN ENOUGH TO HANDLE THIS". The next is the multiplayer. They'll use that to try to lure people back in, and just make fat stacks off that and laugh in people's faces.

To me, their name is pretty much worthless. Gamers are idiots and will probably use multiplayer to bail them out. But honestly, I'm not going to give the studio a second chance any time near the immediate future. I'd rather they fucking burn.
 
The Polish government also gave them money too. So there's that. I mean, at this point they're just going to kill it. I don't see how they do much of anything else. Though they are going to make microtransaction hell multiplayer for it, I guarantee it. It wasn't actually Iwinski who fucked it up, it was Badowski. He actually completely fucked the entire project up when he became director. He was co-founder so there's the rumor he butted his way into the project. The Witcher 3 had 3 directors, none of whom worked on Cyberpunk. I have no idea why they didn't keep the directors on, but it just feels like Badowski screaming "I WANNA DO A GAME DADDY". I mean, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. If you've got a winning team, you keep that team together.

Basically once Badowski took over as Director, he pissed the Witcher 3 team off so fucking much that they pretty much all exited the company. The problem is it started out as an RPG, but Badowski seemingly wanted to combine it with GTA for some unknown fucking reason. Like dude, you're an RPG studio right now, you don't have the experience to branch out into multiple genres. He was told this by the Witcher 3 devs and he brushed it off. The reason why it was re-developed so many times is probably because it was originally a lot more RPG focused, and a lot of those elements had to be ripped out or re-done. Badowski pictured himself on par with Rockstar, which has multiple studios all over the world which is why they can do what they do. Badowski had alienated all the experienced Devs and was forced to hire much more inexperienced people. Badowski wanted to copy major gaming studios and have celebrities in the game. "HAVE YOU HEARD OF JOHNNY SILVERHAND?" Nigger, no one has heard of him. An obscure character in an obscure RPG with outdated references. Thank fuck they didn't make him like Bowie. The only reason people knew him was because of Keanu Reeves and that was all for normies. "YOU GET TO BE PARTNERS WITH KEANU". I don't give a fuck.

Management was utterly fucking incompetent, there were no pipelines to anything. Some things were made multiple times because people didn't realize it was done. You can see this Frankenstein patchwork in the game. One of the bugs I experienced was in the Voodoo Boys quests in the mall. I finished it, but the mall was still in complete lockdown. However my minimap was thinking the area was open and was guiding me toward locked areas. It was then I experienced just how closed off the game was. I couldn't break any glass to jump out a window. I couldn't bust out a door. I was trapped because a flag hadn't been tripped. Just goes to show how shitty and linear it was.

I mean, the management was so fucking bad. I think at the very least, Badowski needs to be ousted. He needs to be shit canned because he completely fucked up every aspect of the game. You can read the news and see the shift. The Keanu Reeves bullshit, the GTA knock-off shit, the confused development, the hemorrhaging of talent, all leads right up to Badowski on director. The dude should be gone. His incompetence has lead to government investigations and two separate investor class actions. Though Iwinski is just as much of a faggot. He lied completely throughout the development process and lacked the balls to reign Badowski in. Like did Badowski pin him down and castrate him? Or was Iwinski just fucking drunk 24/7 on brake fluid, not really giving a shit, giving interviews with this deer in headlights look because every time he sobered up he realized what a shit-pile the game was and he had to defend it.

It is utterly baffling that they would take all that capital (both money-wise and faith-wise) and just fucking burn it to the ground. They made money on this but no one will ever trust them again. Why fucking should they? I expect they'll just do enough to put it back on the Playstation store and just try to build the 'multiplayer experience' to 'save' it. I imagine there will be enough fucking retards who will try it out because they still believe CD Projekt is 'one of the good ones'. Though I do hope their multiplayer fails. Fuck them.

Yup. With no signs of it returning anytime soon. If they can even get the fucking thing to work anymore.

I give you the ending scene from 'The Big Short'


They did not care. They figured if they fucked up, it was YOUR fault. They just wanted your money at the end of the day. There's no fucking way they believe in this product. Don't make me laugh. They knew exactly what they were selling. It was a shit-pile. They hyped it up, used the capital from the Witcher 3, made themselves boatloads of cash. Then they just blamed gamers and consumers when it fucked up. "THE PC PORT IS FINE, ITS YOUR 3090 ISN'T NEXT GEN ENOUGH TO HANDLE THIS". The next is the multiplayer. They'll use that to try to lure people back in, and just make fat stacks off that and laugh in people's faces.

To me, their name is pretty much worthless. Gamers are idiots and will probably use multiplayer to bail them out. But honestly, I'm not going to give the studio a second chance any time near the immediate future. I'd rather they fucking burn.
My bad, Badowski not Iwinski. Still, Iwinski couldn't wrangle that guy in?

Fuck me he even looks like a douche:
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Or was Iwinski just fucking drunk 24/7 on brake fluid, not really giving a shit, giving interviews with this deer in headlights look because every time he sobered up he realized what a shit-pile the game was and he had to defend it.
Almost certainly, yes. And that's before you factor in how badly off the rails this guy had to have known this was going.
 
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I'd like to add something to this.

They have no excuse for this, because they could've seen what happens with a half-assed release.

Do Polacks not have Internet? Did they not see the reviews for Fallout 76? Or WWF 2k20? Or watch other releases that were shit awful? It's like some retard driving a car towards a cliff that drops off into a fucking volcano, with huge road signs warning 'DANGER: LAVA AHEAD'.

That's what stuns me. They had to know this was going to be a disaster, and they went ahead with it anyways.

but wholesome big keanu chungus! everybody loves CDPR! cp2077 will be much better than those shitheaps (just believe, we do too!).

point is, arrogance and self-delusion are a helluva drug. and if realizations set in at some point, what are the options? a game that never releases never makes money, which is why we see all the shit getting released one way or another. besides, you can still "fix" it post launch, everyone does. added bonus you don't have to go the extra mile because at some point most people will have moved on. saves money too!

imo they fucked up when shit hit the fan and they still tried to play the good guy card. an excuse and promise to fix it sounds nice on paper and works on some, but people will take it as a confirmation you fucked up and you knew it, that's why people play dumb in the first place. if the latter camp is loud and pissed off enough, it doesn't really matter what the rest believes. and of course promising refunds was the final straw that even pissed their business partners off. you know the difference between cp2077 and fo76/wwf? the latter kept their mouth shut, either because they didn't care or knew better, and people moved on. sure, they might still meme about fo76, but so there are enough people that liked it (some who I know personally), and it still made enough money off of retards.

as shit as cp2077 is, people would've eventually forgotten about it (or it would've been fixed if they were legit trying afterwards), because let's face it, it's not like console players have high standards to begin with. however a lot of them do follow twitter and shit, CDPR fueling the flames burned them harder than the game itself did.
 
Where are all these lawsuits based out of? Given that CDPR is a major if not the only source of I R SMRT pride for that country when it comes to international brands, I could see the government tipping the scales to bail out the company and prevent them becoming just another stereotype of polish ineptitude.
 
It really depends on how the two lawsuits and if the Polish Government gets pissed off enough. I say give it a year or so to see if CDPR can deliver something before trying to launch the microtransaction Multiplayer and having that flop as well.
 
The No Man's Sky devs just added a massive update where you can capture/train pretty much any monster or NPC and make them your companions. Meanwhile we're on month two of radio silence from CDPR and few if any of the bugs have been fixed.

CP2077 confirmed worse than No Man's Sky.
 
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