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Panpizza said:
You clearly haven't been reading my posts or understanding what it is I'm saying, which is the case with a few people here. Ultimately, this is a fetish. Just like any other fetish, there are bound to be people who find the fetish disgusting because they don't share the fetish. This is the case with almost any fetish, even something simple like foot fetishists. In this case, because the fetish involves actual shit, it's especially repulsive to most people, sure. But ultimately, people should be free to do whatever they want in their bedroom as long as it's consensual and non-harmful. Even with this fetish (just like any other fetish group) there are people who are capable of acting out these fantasies in a responsible and private way. Is it a particularly dignified fetish? No, but many aren't. As long as they're sanitary about their bedroom antics and keep it there, there are far worse kinds of people out there. The link between my logic and being a "deviant" makes no sense, and it seems to me to be completely irrelevant, like much of your posting.

I've made it very clear that the issue I take with a few posters here is the cheapening of pedophilia, which I consider particularly horrific. How you go from this to "pedo-apologist" is a leap of logic I don't fathom. Perhaps if you actually read my "highly pretentious" responses you would not reach such an asinine conclusion about my intentions. Some IT worker in his 40s who goes home and roleplays in diapers with his wife and then goes to work the next day is not the same thing as someone who actively seeks children to sexually abuse. Pedophilia is a categorically unique pathology, and though there may be overlap with the extremists of this particular fetish and pedophilia, I really don't think it's the case that the majority of people who roleplay with diapers or ageplay are also molesting children.
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is this the hill you wanna die on?
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Panpizza said:
You clearly haven't been reading my posts or understanding what it is I'm saying, which is the case with a few people here. Ultimately, this is a fetish. Just like any other fetish, there are bound to be people who find the fetish disgusting because they don't share the fetish. This is the case with almost any fetish, even something simple like foot fetishists. In this case, because the fetish involves actual shit, it's especially repulsive to most people, sure. But ultimately, people should be free to do whatever they want in their bedroom as long as it's consensual and non-harmful. Even with this fetish (just like any other fetish group) there are people who are capable of acting out these fantasies in a responsible and private way. Is it a particularly dignified fetish? No, but many aren't. As long as they're sanitary about their bedroom antics and keep it there, there are far worse kinds of people out there. The link between my logic and being a "deviant" makes no sense, and it seems to me to be completely irrelevant, like much of your posting.

I've made it very clear that the issue I take with a few posters here is the cheapening of pedophilia, which I consider particularly horrific. How you go from this to "pedo-apologist" is a leap of logic I don't fathom. Perhaps if you actually read my "highly pretentious" responses you would not reach such an asinine conclusion about my intentions. Some IT worker in his 40s who goes home and roleplays in diapers with his wife and then goes to work the next day is not the same thing as someone who actively seeks children to sexually abuse. Pedophilia is a categorically unique pathology, and though there may be overlap with the extremists of this particular fetish and pedophilia, I really don't think it's the case that the majority of people who roleplay with diapers or ageplay are also molesting children.
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I can somewhat see where you're coming from. But when you make your fetish PUBLIC, like DD, that's when it becomes disgusting, irredeemable, and deviant. We're discussing THOSE kinds. Everyone that has that fetish is, admittedly, disturbing to an extent, but we're not focusing on every last one of them.

Also, eschew surplusage.
 
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Like I said man, it's not that serious. I can clearly see where someone would draw the link between infantilization and pedophilia, just like someone would draw the link between rape/violence fetishists and being an actual rapist.

I'm just saying that there's a clear difference between someone who can act out a fetish and someone who actively commits sexual crimes. That's all.

@Wolfenmaus I agree that making any deviant information public makes you fair game for discrimination. I think most people here are only discussing the mentally ill baby fetishists who post on the OP forum, but a few posts have been sweeping generalizations and casual accusation of pedophilia, which is what I took issue to.
 
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Panpizza said:
I'm just saying that there's a clear difference between someone who can act out a fetish and someone who actively commits sexual crimes.
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We know that. That's why we talk about the latter and the ones glorify the first. We know there's a difference, but both are exceptional individuals that warrant discussing.

Panpizza said:
I agree that making any deviant information public makes you fair game for discrimination. I think most people here are only discussing the mentally ill baby fetishists who post on the OP forum, but a few posts have been sweeping generalizations and casual accusation of pedophilia, which is what I took issue to.
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Fair. However, it is the OP group that is causing those generalizations to be made.
 
Ruin said:
is defending diaper/shit fetishists online really the way you want to spend you're free time?
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Pizza doesn't seem to be defending them.

Pizza is just saying that diaper fetishists are gross, but not necessarily harmful to anyone but themselves potentially (unless, of course, the shit escapes the bedroom badumshhh). Pizza is taking offense to the fact that some users are saying diaper fetishists are on par with actual pedos, which of course some may be real pedos, but most probably arent.

Here's a thought: some people are unfortunately born with a sexuality which makes them turned on by kids. Fucked up, right? But they never act on it because they aren't evil cunts. Perhaps some of these gross diaper fucks have that problem, and this is their outlet so they don't actually harm a child?

Nymphomaniac, Lars von triars awesome two part film about the ins and outs of sexuality, has a character who is a closet pedo who never acted on it.

Now don't get me wrong, these guys repulse me and freak me out, and I'd never let my kid near them. That said, just having a diaper fetish don't make a bitch a pedo, dig?
 
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Panpizza said:
There is a distinct and clear difference between sexualizing the idea of infantilization within the context of a sexual fantasy and targeting a child as the object of your sexual desire.

Some people may be into both, but that does not make both things the same.
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This is just getting old, so I'll just leave this video that someone did years ago when Richard Kuta decided to talking about what an adult baby is.

 
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Panpizza said:
Some IT worker in his 40s who goes home and roleplays in diapers with his wife and then goes to work the next day is not the same thing as someone who actively seeks children to sexually abuse. Pedophilia is a categorically unique pathology, and though there may be overlap with the extremists of this particular fetish and pedophilia, I really don't think it's the case that the majority of people who roleplay with diapers or ageplay are also molesting children.
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Even though ABDLs aren't harming children directly they're still participating in the sexualization of very young minors, also known as fucking infants. They find having the qualities of a child sexy. That's about one step away from pedophilia.

If that still isn't enough for you then also consider how much ABDLs idealize incontinence, a serious medical condition. This is about on par with finding paraplegics sexy. Take away the undertones of pedophilia and it's still plenty disgusting.
 
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Even though ABDLs aren't harming children directly they're still participating in the sexualization of very young minors, also known as fucking infants. They find having the qualities of a child sexy. That's about one step away from pedophilia.
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Considering most of their ages.. It's more several little steps with a walker away..
 
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Aw. Poor DeagleDad got stuck with sharing his initials with a shitty forum.

I've known about these weirdos for quite a while now, so it's nothing new to me. But @Panpizza and his diaper love posts entertain me so I keep coming back. Also looking at the lists of ratings some of the posts are getting, @DawnMachine is coming off a bit worrisome too.

One final thing: the lack of use of the :briefs: smiley in this thread is disappointing.
 
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