😵‍💫 Skitzocow Dan Cilley - autistic self-help guru/diet expert

[GilaMonster]

I'm not implying that foreigners cannot learn to speak English and that's an unimpressive straw man argument on your part. I'm stating, without implication, that angry men like yourself and Dan Cilley see them as easy prey for your wolf-in-sheeps-clothing facade where you "accoust" strangers under the false guise of being more loving & open than others. It isn't a "people problem", it's a personal problem, Dan's stemming from his autism and yours from your arrested development.

 

[Caterpie]

I'm not implying that foreigners cannot learn to speak English and that's an unimpressive straw man argument on your part. I'm stating, without implication, that angry men like yourself and Dan Cilley see them as easy prey for your wolf-in-sheeps-clothing facade where you "accoust" strangers under the false guise of being more loving & open than others. It isn't a "people problem", it's a personal problem, Dan's stemming from his autism and yours from your arrested development.

It's an unimpressive straw man argument on your part assuming that I am an angry man with no evidence to support this. I'm as sedated as they come. I'm not sure where you're trying to go with this, but if you're trying to convince me to stop doing art for Dan and come and join in with the fun and excitement of complaining about things Dan says, then you're wasting your time.

I enjoy doing art of Dan, and he enjoys it as well. He has never been unpleasant towards me and he has been completely open and honest to the extent of trusting me with all of his passwords, a trust I will not abuse. I originally found Dan from this website anyway. I watched his videos for a few months and added him on Facebook and it just happened. I didn't plan any of this.

Edit: I'll be sure to warn dan of any further "accoust"ing.

 

[GilaMonster]

You thinking you can't be both soft-spoken and still be angry is as ridiculous as the three or four troll commenters on Dan's videos who think he can't be both autistic and lazy. They aren't mutually exclusive traits.

And if you found Dan through this website where people "complain" about him and others...what were you doing here in the first place?

 

[Caterpie]

You thinking you can't be both soft-spoken and still be angry is as ridiculous as the three or four troll commenters on Dan's videos who think he can't be both autistic and lazy. They aren't mutually exclusive traits.

And if you found Dan through this website where people "complain" about him and others...what were you doing here in the first place?

Thank you for calling me soft spoken. I am also mild mannered. I am not angry about anything. As for someone thinking you can't be autistic and lazy, I don't know what you're talking about but yes, that is as ridiculous, just like you still insisting I'm angry without any reason behind doing so.

As for how I found this website, again, I didn't plan on it, but I had been lurking for some time. I do find some of the threads on here genuinely amusing and some of the people quite despicable. I just don't have any ill will towards Dan. He's harmless. Calm down.

 

[rankmelon]

He's harmless. Calm down.

That's where you're wrong. He may not have *yet* done anything to harm anyone, but every single thing he does suggests that it WILL happen, and I have nothing against you as a person. You're likeable, you're polite, you're (mostly) cool, but actively encouraging his behavior make you, at most, complicit in his potential future act of harm/violence/sexual deviance/whatever, and, at least, it makes you a jerk for doing so.

 

[Caterpie]

That's where you're wrong. He may not have *yet* done anything to harm anyone, but every single thing he does suggests that it WILL happen, and I have nothing against you as a person. You're likeable, you're polite, you're (mostly) cool, but actively encouraging his behavior make you, at most, complicit in his potential future act of harm/violence/sexual deviance/whatever, and, at least, it makes you a jerk for doing so.

Thanks for being reasonable, and believe me, I do try to discourage some of Dan's behaviors. I did mention to him that whilst it may be legal in some states to be with a 16 year old (and it's legal where I live too) that it is highly unlikely that any 16 year old would be "mature" enough to want to settle down and have kids, commit to the strict vegan lifestyle, etc etc. Dan hasn't ever been in a fight in his life, and if he were to start becoming violent, if he assaulted someone or something, I certainly wouldn't want to associate with him because I hate violence.

 

[lindsayfan]

for anyone else trying to catch up on the past couple days of this thread, I made a tl:dr

Spoiler

 

[strandedcastaway]

As for how I found this website, again, I didn't plan on it, but I had been lurking for some time. I do find some of the threads on here genuinely amusing and some of the people quite despicable. I just don't have any ill will towards Dan. He's harmless. Calm down.

Dan makes his living by taking money from an old schizophrenic woman who doesn't know better. He advocates incest and pedophilia. He's extremely bitter and angry towards women and society. He lives off the government despite the fact he's an able-bodied man who loves to flex his muscles in his videos and tell us how he works out every single daaaaaay. He talks constantly about how he's been wronged by society yet does absolutely nothing with his time except sit on his ass and whine. And those are his good qualities. Your main defense of Dan is that he hasn't raped anyone yet. I don't think you're cool or likeable. I haven't figured out if you believe the shit you shovel or you don't. Either way, you're pretty fucked up---in your way, more fucked up than Dan because you have a choice and his brain doesn't function properly.

 

[Dave Meltzer]

Dan makes his living by taking money from an old schizophrenic woman who doesn't know better. He advocates incest and pedophilia. He's extremely bitter and angry towards women and society. He lives off the government despite the fact he's an able-bodied man who loves to flex his muscles in his videos and tell us how he works out every single daaaaaay. He talks constantly about how he's been wronged by society yet does absolutely nothing with his time except sit on his ass and whine. And those are his good qualities. Your main defense of Dan is that he hasn't raped anyone yet. I don't think you're cool or likeable. I haven't figured out if you believe the shit you shovel or you don't. Either way, you're pretty fucked up---in your way, more fucked up than Dan because you have a choice and his brain doesn't function properly.

Dan has fantasies of pedophilia and rape. He believes in auto suggestion. That if you think something enough it will manifest itself. Anyone with even average intelligence can see that he is a ticking time bomb. I can't for the life of me understand why someone would use their real name to associate with this guy and egg him on. Even taking Andrew's autism into account it doesn't make sense. You really want that showing up in the search engine results when someone searches your name to hire you for a job? Especially if one day Dan's fantasies do manifest itself. Like he repeats to himself daily that they should.

I certainly wouldn't want to associate with him because I hate violence.

Why the serial killer fetish if you hate violence?

 

[Caterpie]

Why the serial killer fetish if you hate violence?

Fetish is a strong word, one I'd never use to describe what I admit is an interest in the subject. That doesn't mean that I like violence in real life. I don't think drawing pictures for Dan is going to put me out of employment.

Dan makes his living by taking money from an old schizophrenic woman who doesn't know better. He advocates incest and pedophilia. He's extremely bitter and angry towards women and society. He lives off the government despite the fact he's an able-bodied man who loves to flex his muscles in his videos and tell us how he works out every single daaaaaay. He talks constantly about how he's been wronged by society yet does absolutely nothing with his time except sit on his ass and whine. And those are his good qualities. Your main defense of Dan is that he hasn't raped anyone yet. I don't think you're cool or likeable. I haven't figured out if you believe the shit you shovel or you don't. Either way, you're pretty fucked up---in your way, more fucked up than Dan because you have a choice and his brain doesn't function properly.

You don't think I'm cool or likeable AND you think I'm fucked up? Damn, and all this was to try and impress you as well. Guess I should quit now.

 

[Dave Meltzer]

Fetish is a strong word, one I'd never use to describe what I admit is an interest in the subject. That doesn't mean that I like violence in real life. I don't think drawing pictures for Dan is going to put me out of employment.

You post on a Jeffery Dalmer forum. You post videos on your youtube of one of the Columbine killers. You wear a Red Sox hat on your facebook profile page because one of the Columbine killers wore one. You go beyond simple interest. Just as your pictures egging on the fantasies of a depraved mongoloid aren't just simple drawings.

 

[Caterpie]

You post on a Jeffery Dalmer forum. You post videos on your youtube of one of the Columbine killers. You wear a Red Sox hat on your facebook profile page because one of the Columbine killers wore one. You go beyond simple interest. Just as your pictures egging on the fantasies of a depraved mongoloid aren't just simple drawings.

I have never posted on a Jeffrey Dahmer forum, I did post those videos in early 2012 yes and if you see my pictures you'll notice I have multiple baseball hats all of different teams and sports of which the red sox hat is simply one. You're really grasping at straws here.

 

[GilaMonster]

You post on a Jeffery Dalmer forum. You post videos on your youtube of one of the Columbine killers. You wear a Red Sox hat on your facebook profile page because one of the Columbine killers wore one. You go beyond simple interest.

That certainly puts things in perspective when it comes to his endorsement of Dan.

 

[weaponized_autism]

Dan apparently owes $1000 by the 20th for rent. He paid $78 this month because he thought he was still on Section 8. In classic Dan fashion he instantly turns to blaming the gluten and "leaky gut".

When the 20th comes around he claims that the eviction process will begin. What will happen to him then? He can only stay at Kim's 3 days at a time. Maybe he will get sent to prison for a year after his trial (the 6th or 7th?) and have a nice comfy place to live.

 

[strandedcastaway]

Dan has fantasies of pedophilia and rape. He believes in auto suggestion. That if you think something enough it will manifest itself. Anyone with even average intelligence can see that he is a ticking time bomb. I can't for the life of me understand why someone would use their real name to associate with this guy and egg him on. Even taking Andrew's autism into account it doesn't make sense. You really want that showing up in the search engine results when someone searches your name to hire you for a job? Especially if one day Dan's fantasies do manifest itself. Like he repeats to himself daily that they should.

Yeah, you said that a lot better than I did. I was reminding people of some of Dan's actions, but I should assume anyone reading this gets the picture by now.

Edit: Except Andrew Fitzpatrick/Caterpie/andukaru

 

[rankmelon]

Maybe he will get sent to prison for a year after his trial (the 6th or 7th?) and have a nice comfy place to live.

And have a better diet than he has now.

 

[paperbag]

Andrew, Dan can be a likeable, entertaining and charismatic character. I think I understand why you work with Dan on doing that artwork for him but you should probably stop. You're trolling him and egging him on. Despite being a friend of his I don't think you're really helping him.

Dan gets nowhere in life. He wastes his time talking to his camera for hours on end like his camera is a dear friend. The more entrenched he gets in his plans the more he gets nowhere. Dan doesn't need support in his hopes and dreams. What he needs is a reality check.

I think Dan used to a bit better than he now is. He used to be likeable enough to get laid sometimes but now he hasn't gotten laid for quite a while now. In 2014 he held a job for two months.

Now though he could potentially be going to jail and/or be evicted from his apartment.

How Dan talks about incest and fresh fruits and vegetables and multiple women and all the rest of it can be amusing, but to actually spur him on won't do him any good.

Dan admits he needs the money he gets from Kim.

 

[GilaMonster]

Dan/Kamilar responding to a commenter only he can see again. What did they say to incite that admission?

 

[Caterpie]

Andrew, Dan can be a likeable, entertaining and charismatic character. I think I understand why you work with Dan on doing that artwork for him but you should probably stop. You're trolling him and egging him on. Despite being a friend of his I don't think you're really helping him.

Dan gets nowhere in life. He wastes his time talking to his camera for hours on end like his camera is a dear friend. The more entrenched he gets in his plans the more he gets nowhere. Dan doesn't need support in his hopes and dreams. What he needs is a reality check.

I think Dan used to a bit better than he now is. He used to be likeable enough to get laid sometimes but now he hasn't gotten laid for quite a while now. In 2014 he held a job for two months.

Now though he could potentially be going to jail and/or be evicted from his apartment.

How Dan talks about incest and fresh fruits and vegetables and multiple women and all the rest of it can be amusing, but to actually spur him on won't do him any good.

I do see your point, but in all seriousness reality checks just simply do not work for Dan. Remember, I have been in contact with his family as well, and they are concerned, but that concern goes nowhere and is just a hindrance in Dan's eyes. I have been in close contact with Dan for months now, talked to him on the phone, talked with him and his family. I am concerned about the trial and him getting evicted of course.

I do think Dan is stuck in a rut, clearly has some mental health issues he should be working on, but comparing him to a pedophile or rapist is going a bit far. Yes, he's said certain things I do not agree with, but those actions and words are his own and I do not actively encourage them. It's not like he spends hours talking about these things either, he's maybe mentioned them for a few minutes in a few videos that were several hours long, quickly followed up by doubt.

To say that some children display some mild, innocent sexually exploratory behaviors with other children their age is not incorrect according to Psychology. To say that some girls go through puberty early and appear to be older than they actually are is not incorrect, however I do believe that they are still mentally children and should not be with an age inappropriate partner if anyone at all. He would be saying this stuff whether I was here or not.

Edit: autocorrect changed a word.

 

[dancilleyfan]

Sadly for Dan, Kim appears to have finally ditched him. She apparently told him it's over for them and she did not let him in. In true Dan fashion, he still went up to her apartment attempting to break in (force the door quote on quote). According to Dan, if it wasn't for the fear of the security guard, he would have stood there knocking on Kim's door for hours. He eventually left and is hoping his relationship with Kim isn't "destroyed". It would appear that he was shouting at Kim not long ago and that's what made Kim finally open her eyes.