TGWTG Dan Olson / Folding Ideas - Pseudo-Intellectual Hipster, Child Pornographer, and All-Around Exceptional Individual

[MG 620]

On the one hand, I get that specifying GG in particular as some all encompassing gaggle of harassers, especially years after the whole thing is most relevant, in his post was stupid. On the other hand, what we're discussing is literally a prominent pro-GGer (I think we could agree that mombot is that) accusing him of knowing about the actions of a rapist for years and covering for him based on seemingly nothing.

Why are you acting as if GG matter in any way? Who cares about makebelieve internet slapfights, it's not what this whole thing is about anyway. If JFK were shot in 2018 it would have to be the pro-GGers!

 

[c-no]

How do you possibly take that mombot thread at its face when it completely lacks any evidence that Olson himself knew of Carmical's actions prior to his suicide and misreads the hell out of Olson's SA post--as far as I can gather mombot leaps to the notion that Olson himself has known that Carmical was a predator for years rather than weeks based on literally nothing, and then repeatedly talks about Gamergate for several tweets just because Olson mentioned it in the context of harassment (and if you read one of the alleged victim's reddit posts in that thread, she even says that she was silent for so long because she was scared of fan harassment--which is generally what Olson was getting at in his SA post). Even if you want to blindly speculate that he did know for whatever reason, it's extremely gross that his wiki entry was immediately edited to say he aided and abetted a child molester with no evidence, not even a firm accusation outside of mombot herself.

Dan worked on Channel Awesome along side people that knew JewWario. Whether he joined before or after JewWario died, Dan worked with people who knew of the cover up over JewWario's. At one point, Dan would of found out about it from others. Much as Mombot spergs over GG, Mombot's last few tweets which were related to Dan Olson would go over to "fuck video games, I'd rather find a new hobby". That being more or less part of the last few tweets related to Olson. As for those that take it at face value, they have as much of a right as those that having the right to think Mombot is a white American guy.

Really though, if you joined this site simply because some wiki entry bothered, I can't say much else than why care about a website that other people would think the information is on it is baseless (as shown in Kiwi Farm review post of people thinking its all slander and lies).

Because a simple "I didn't know about it in time" or even simple silence would have been enough, yet Dan somehow managed to shoehorn in Gamergate, an event that didn't happen until after Justin's death.

Putting GG into just makes it all sound like even more of an excuse. They could of simply said they wouldn't want JewWario fans finding out. That would of been less idiotic than "risk factor of GamerGate".

Why are you acting as if GG matter in any way? Who cares about makebelieve internet slapfights, it's not what this whole thing is about anyway. If JFK were shot in 2018 it would have to be the pro-GGers!

Part of this is due to Mombot seeing someone posting a screenshot of an SA post Dan made (which also was edited or "fucked around with"*). Even if one can argue Mombot's just making leaps, one could also argue its justified by the fact Dan was once a part of CA with other people who knew JewWario, many of whom kept it covered up until now. Also doesn't help that, whether Dan or someone else, the "risk factor of GamerGate" comes off as nothing more than some shit attempt at justifying the reason to not come out with the cover up.

*One could argue that there could be a sliver of a chance that the edit could of been something to cover tracks but that's more of relying on a guess.

 

[Whomst]

Really though, if you joined this site simply because some wiki entry bothered, I can't say much else than why care about a website that other people would think the information is on it is baseless (as shown in Kiwi Farm review post of people thinking its all slander and lies).

Fair enough, I guess.

 

[c-no]

Fair enough, I guess.

Really though, assuming you aren't Dan, if the wiki article bothered you so much, you should just chill. If you wonder why we say "Hi Dan" and "Fuck off Dan", look at your post history and you'll understand why.

 

[Puddleduck]

He has a recommendation from Elizabeth (Libby) Olson for Video Production, Video Editing and Multimedia on his LinkedIn, I'm guessing that would be his mom.

Getting a friend or relative to leave feedback/recommendations on LinkedIn, I can understand, salting the mine etc. But if that person's profile has the same surname as yours, it looks like you got mommy to write nice things, and that's probably worse than having no feedback.

 

[Jaimas]

The far left publicly equates the two in order to attempt to undercut the Chan’ers, who are the real threat to the far left progressives. The chan’ers are the far lefts worst nightmare. They are ideologically diverse non leftists who have adopted Alinski’s Rules for Radicals, and started using them against the far left. Mockery is their strongest tool. The far left ideologues in the entrenched media are fighting this by trying to lump the mocking trolls in with the neo nazis. Two groups that really have nothing whatsoever to do with each other.

They hate them because the Chantards absorbed the non-crazy Leftists to boot.

They hate anyone who isn't an insane extremist like them.

I know this pic has been posted and discussed before, but for me nothing more perfectly captures what an unpleasant person Dan is than this:

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Look at how everyone else in that picture is reacting and then look at Dan. For those who aren't aware, I'll explain the context. This is Armoured Skeptic and sh0eonhead having lunch with Lindsay, hbomberguy and ContraPoints (dunno who the girl on the far left is but I assume she's on the SJW side of things). These two groups have diametrically opposed worldviews, but they're all managing to laugh and have fun together. It might just be an act for the camera, but that just makes this look even worse:

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Look at that face. Dan is fucking depressed at the prospect of having to sit within arms reach of people who don't share his political views. He can't even work up the ghost of a smile for the camera. People have described Dan as a zealot and I think that's very accurate. He can't even entertain the idea of sitting at the same table as people he disagrees with without sulking like a little bitch baby.

What a cunt.

That is fucking magic. Olson always had a rep as someone who would go nuclear to defend his own side and tended to treat opponents as subhuman vermin. Without a single spoken word, that photograph says paragraphs.

 

[NQ 952]

They hate them because the Chantards absorbed the non-crazy Leftists to boot.

They hate anyone who isn't an insane extremist like them.



That is fucking magic. Olson always had a rep as someone who would go nuclear to defend his own side and tended to treat opponents as subhuman vermin. Without a single spoken word, that photograph says paragraphs.

There is nothing about this guy that doesn't make him seem like a miserable cunt.

 

[ChevroletBlackboard]

Technically, Dan didn't join Channel Awesome until soon after Justin's death in 2014, so he's not lying. But he was already part of Chez Apocalypse, a sister site to TGWTG who pretty much everyone expected to join TGWTG proper if they weren't already a part of it. He was already a part of the high school clique that was set up by Lindsay, and if Jackula isn't lying he was a real dirtbag behind the scenes when it came to being more ideologically pure than your nice German neighbor Hans.

Long story short, if Lindsay knew about Justin and spread that to the Chez crew, Dan would've known.

 

[GethN7]

Having had some time to reflect on this, I'm going to be as generous to Dan Olson as possible despite my prejudices and assume all he knew, at best, was suspicions, not hard evidence when all this CA stuff could have reasonably been made aware to him, and he somehow managed to remain as ignorant as is feasibly possible up until this shit exploded.

With that said, he still has no excuse for not at least laying what he knew and suspected on the table and leaving it at that when pressed. It may not have done him any measurable favors, but he would be seen as at least willing to be honest about what he knew and suspected, and I personally would not have found myself liking him, but I could at least respect his willingness to show some scruples like honesty.

But he refused, stonewalled, and ducked behind every cowardly excuse to avoid having to do so.

That said, let's still keep in mind I'm being as generous as possible assuming his knowledge of the misdeeds of others.

He's still a POS for refusing to speak up, especially when sexual abuse of others he may have been able to shed light on occurred and he sat on that. And even if he was as ignorant as he'd like to be seen as, still laying his cards on the table would have cost him nothing and possibly earned him a measure of respect.

 

[Jaimas]

My issue with Olson this fucking line of his (emphasis in orange):

Okay, so overwhelmingly the participants in the Not That Awesome document found out the reality of all this about two weeks ago, so this is only slightly less fresh to them as it is to everyone else today. It was decided that it wasn't their story to tell, especially since the known victims at this point just want it to go away. The people who knew for longer had been specifically asked by the victims to say nothing. They didn't (don't) want to go through the intensity of that particular scrutiny, especially since it would spill over to much of the community and especially Justin's widow, creating a lot of traum, and for what? After all, Justin functionally settled the issue himself, and there's complicated issues specifically when it comes to managing the risk factor that is the GamerGate crowd.

They have, to no one's surprise, already started digging into every nook and cranny, digging out every ancient innuendo or accusation, and using it to try to identify victims/hurt people in general. I have little doubt that by the time I get home tonight I'll have between a dozen and two hundred essages accusing me of all sorts of stuff by simple proximity. The self-contradicting narratives are already starting to brew, looking for a witch to hunt.

We knew that the information would have gotten out eventually, and in a certain sense, needed to get out eventually, but ought to have come from the impacted individuals.

This... Fucking guy just admitted, in no uncertain terms, that he cares more about sticking it to a group he specifically does not like than doing the right thing. Did he know anything about it? It doesn't fucking matter, he made absolutely, unambiguously clear, in that highlighted paragraph, that he cares more about his political nemeses than the victims, the accusations against JewWario, or why people would take issue with him.

I don't even need the fact that Lindsay Ellis in the documents claimed Dan Olson got fired because Mike Michaud objected to his Anti-GG sperging, or that the entire Chez Apocalypse crew has been trying to run interference for Dan Olson on Social Media. Olson made absolutely clear he's an ideological basket-case solely with his own words.

 

[RodgerDodger]

My issue with Olson this fucking line of his (emphasis in orange):



This... Fucking guy just admitted, in no uncertain terms, that he cares more about sticking it to a group he specifically does not like than doing the right thing. Did he know anything about it? It doesn't fucking matter, he made absolutely, unambiguously clear, in that highlighted paragraph, that he cares more about his political nemeses than the victims, the accusations against JewWario, or why people would take issue with him.

I don't even need the fact that Lindsay Ellis in the documents claimed Dan Olson got fired because Mike Michaud objected to his Anti-GG sperging, or that the entire Chez Apocalypse crew has been trying to run interference for Dan Olson on Social Media. Olson made absolutely clear he's an ideological basket-case solely with his own words.

That’s what is uncanny. All he had to say about JewWario was “we all only just found out a few days ago and were as shocked as everyone is. We were asked to respect the victims privacy. We have respected that as we like you all attempt to process this horrific news. “ that was it. No Gamergate threats. No passive aggressive internet wars. No narrative spinning or weapon icing this poor woman’s rape. That’s what any sane human being would have done.

 

[Done]

That’s what is uncanny. All he had to say about JewWario was “we all only just found out a few days ago and were as shocked as everyone is. We were asked to respect the victims privacy. We have respected that as we like you all attempt to process this horrific news. “ that was it. No Gamergate threats. No passive aggressive internet wars. No narrative spinning or weapon icing this poor woman’s rape. That’s what any sane human being would have done.

But Dan has a thread here precisely because he isn't a sane human being, sane human beings don't try to pull that 8chan CP shit, sane human beings understand that some things transcend any autism war, and lastly, sane human beings won't touch Laurelai with a million yards stick.

 

[RodgerDodger]

But Dan has a thread here precisely because he isn't a sane human being, sane human beings don't try to pull that 8chan CP shit, sane human beings understand that some things transcend any autism war, and lastly, sane human beings won't touch Laurelai with a million yards stick.

Even by the low and arguably sub human standards of those we document around here Dan appears to be exceptionally Exceptional.

 

[Saney]

Even by the low and arguably sub human standards of those we document around here Dan appears to be exceptionally Exceptional.

He's that special, horrible mix of malicious and retarded.

 

[WaltherPPGAY]

His tweet chains about mombots accusation:

This is what he said in rebuttal to mombot:
https://archive.fo/50RB2

And here is his rebuttal to some asking why jewwario's death hit him hard if Olson didn't know him.
https://archive.fo/2ruA3

Reading through them, and I don't think they make him look better. He says he didn't know jewwario, but they met a few times in 2012. He says they weren't connected but his life was all about TGWTG. He mentions the overlap in ChezApoco and TGWTG, but places in such a way that it seems like that only happened in early 2014 instead of early 2013 when he joined.

He sneaks in some self pity:

As someone who has had episodes of suicidal ideation suicides always impact me. I know what that head space feels like. I understand it. It's scary, and awful, and upsetting, and I *get* it.

For the most part the rebuttal seems glib, distant and disingenuous. It's tough to read for tone on twitter, but he doesn't seem especially aggrieved about mombots accusation. Honestly, the whole thing is like a word form of one of his videos.

 

[KillThemCrackasBabies]

My issue with Olson this fucking line of his (emphasis in orange):



This... Fucking guy just admitted, in no uncertain terms, that he cares more about sticking it to a group he specifically does not like than doing the right thing. Did he know anything about it? It doesn't fucking matter, he made absolutely, unambiguously clear, in that highlighted paragraph, that he cares more about his political nemeses than the victims, the accusations against JewWario, or why people would take issue with him.

I don't even need the fact that Lindsay Ellis in the documents claimed Dan Olson got fired because Mike Michaud objected to his Anti-GG sperging, or that the entire Chez Apocalypse crew has been trying to run interference for Dan Olson on Social Media. Olson made absolutely clear he's an ideological basket-case solely with his own words.

This. Dude literally could've said "How the fuck was I supposed to know? What'd you expect me to do about it years after the fact?" and it would have come across better.

Dude went well out of his way to make the shittiest statement he possibly could.

 

[Mutie]

This. Dude literally could've said "How the fuck was I supposed to know? What'd you expect me to do about it years after the fact?" and it would have come across better.

Dude went well out of his way to make the shittiest statement he possibly could.

But see, then he couldn't bloviate about goobergrape.

 

[RodgerDodger]

But see, then he couldn't bloviate about goobergrape.

At the end of the day I honestly think Dan is the Cow that I have come to hate the most. Just his unbending unwavering arrogant presumption of righteousness and belief passing for truth that he then uses to assault others in any number of ways. He's not just a harmless Lolcow. He is a missionary lolcow. He's the exact type in generations past that would be converting the poor native populations to his faith by the sword. And enjoying it when they wouldn't see things his way.

 

[strangelight]

My issue with Olson this fucking line of his (emphasis in orange):



This... Fucking guy just admitted, in no uncertain terms, that he cares more about sticking it to a group he specifically does not like than doing the right thing. Did he know anything about it? It doesn't fucking matter, he made absolutely, unambiguously clear, in that highlighted paragraph, that he cares more about his political nemeses than the victims, the accusations against JewWario, or why people would take issue with him.

I don't even need the fact that Lindsay Ellis in the documents claimed Dan Olson got fired because Mike Michaud objected to his Anti-GG sperging, or that the entire Chez Apocalypse crew has been trying to run interference for Dan Olson on Social Media. Olson made absolutely clear he's an ideological basket-case solely with his own words.

I sought out this thread just based on seeing that quote in the TGWTG thread, knowing very little about Dan Olsen -save for once making it through half of one of his videos - because it annoyed me that much for the reasons you stated.

What is wrong with these people that they can behave like this and not think "maybe WE'RE the assholes here..."
They obviously have some level of critical thinking skills, but seem to lack the ability to use them when it comes to their own behaviour.

 

[tehpope]

What is wrong with these people that they can behave like this and not think "maybe WE'RE the assholes here..."
They obviously have some level of critical thinking skills, but seem to lack the ability to use them when it comes to their own behaviour.

People like Dan feel they must "fight fire with fire" because "the other side" does. They probably know deep down they're assholes, but they can't admit it to themselves or others because doing so would invalidate their whole movement. They would be just as bad as the people they fight. So they justify their actions by saying they're doing it in the name of Progress and the oppressed.