- Joined
- Jun 27, 2014
That's the guy.
Despite a lot of people claiming he was a GGer he got pretty resoundingly ejected pretty early on when he started panhandling. Unlike the Anti-GGers where you can happily hipster welfare a bunch of uneducated morons, the GG crowd want evidence you're not pants-on-head retarded, and Aurini pissed off a lot of the GG rank and file through his fire and brimstone rhetoric. CON was incredibly worried about the guy though, despite the fact that he was an asshat, specifically because Quinn and friends were joined at the hip to Feminist Frequency from the start.
We continue our jaunt through the secret anti-Gamergate chat group's logs, the following took place on Christmas Day and Boxing Day 2014. Dan was planning on "quietly" leaving Channel Awesome after they got pissed off at him after they had been getting emails about Dan's involvement with CP.
Part 1: December 22-23
Part 2: December 23-24
This is early in the AM on Christmas Day, the chat group planned to antagonize Gamergate by buying an ad for Dan's Medium post on /r/KotakuInAction and Dan was extremely willing to throw money at this and pay more if everyone else is too cheap to pitch in, even going so far as to say "Folding Ideas" will "cover the spread." Note some of the comments where the participants admit they are only doing this to 'be an asshole to nerds' and act like "glorious assholes" and "dicks." They did end up paying for it but because they dreamt up this idea at like 1 AM EST on Christmas morning, the ad wouldn't be up until the 26th.[26/12/2014, 4:05:12 PM] Dan Olson: I'm aggressive with my Ativan. I just tell the doctor at the clinic what I'm there for, no faffing about talking about my anxiety hoping that they'll feel it merits something that strong.
[25/12/2014, 2:07:09 PM] Tesseract: anyone here have 50-100 bucks for that kia ad
[25/12/2014, 2:07:30 PM] Alex Lifschitz: I mean I'll toss in like 20
[25/12/2014, 2:07:42 PM] Tesseract: how long will 20 keep it up for?
[25/12/2014, 2:07:48 PM] Ian Cheong: i can toss in 10.
[25/12/2014, 2:07:49 PM] Alex Lifschitz: No clue.
[25/12/2014, 2:09:31 PM] SF: I can toss in 10.
[25/12/2014, 2:10:26 PM] Tesseract: http://i.imgur.com/CXAuBFw.png r/apple impressions
[25/12/2014, 2:10:31 PM] Dan Olson: I can toss in 10-20
[25/12/2014, 2:10:51 PM] Tesseract: I can probably toss in a bit as well
[25/12/2014, 2:10:56 PM] Tesseract: let's make this christmas miracle happen
[25/12/2014, 2:11:15 PM] drinternetphd: hahah y'all are glorious assholes
[25/12/2014, 2:11:17 PM] Dan Olson: I did 50$ on an ad buy once, but that was for /r/movies, so the traffic there devoured 50$ in, like, two hours.
[25/12/2014, 2:11:25 PM] drinternetphd: drinternetphd has renamed this conversation to “The Glorious Asshole Coalition (Social)”
[25/12/2014, 2:20:41 PM] Dan Olson: oh, man, looking through my old Reddit account trying to find the stats from my ad buy, found l old convo with TotallyBriskillit
[25/12/2014, 2:20:50 PM] Athena Hollow: hah
[25/12/2014, 2:20:52 PM] Dan Olson: "What right do I have to affect someone's sales due to my political ideology? I serve the consumer"
The fuckkitty fuck?
[25/12/2014, 2:21:01 PM] drinternetphd: lol wat
[25/12/2014, 2:21:05 PM] Athena Hollow: HAHAHAH
[25/12/2014, 2:21:09 PM] Quinnae: Because that's not an ideology at all.
[25/12/2014, 2:21:12 PM] Remy: I'm having trouble keeping up from my phone. What ad are we putting up?
[25/12/2014, 2:21:21 PM] Athena Hollow: One to Dan's article on KiA
[25/12/2014, 2:25:43 PM] Alex Lifschitz: I'm signing up a throwaway reddit with a hush mail account
[25/12/2014, 2:26:31 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Can only pay with credit card. I have a PayPal with a PayPal business card
[25/12/2014, 2:26:42 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): for what its worth
[25/12/2014, 2:27:01 PM] Alex Lifschitz: What should we title the link
[25/12/2014, 2:27:11 PM] Tesseract: of the ad?
[25/12/2014, 2:27:15 PM] Tesseract: just the title of the article
[25/12/2014, 2:27:15 PM] Ian Cheong: yeah of the ad.
[25/12/2014, 2:27:40 PM] Remy: The account name should be PedoSenpai
[25/12/2014, 2:27:42 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Just "The Mods are Always Asleep"?
[25/12/2014, 2:27:47 PM] Remy: Sounds good
[25/12/2014, 2:27:50 PM] Alex Lifschitz: The account is ActuallyItsAbout
[25/12/2014, 2:27:51 PM] Tesseract: just hit the suggest title button
[25/12/2014, 2:27:54 PM] Remy: Nice
[25/12/2014, 2:28:04 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ha, Alex. Nice
[25/12/2014, 2:28:07 PM] Ian Cheong: Hahaha
[25/12/2014, 2:28:18 PM] Tesseract: maybe "The Mods are Always Asleep -- Merry Christmas, KIA"
[25/12/2014, 2:28:29 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Yessssss
[25/12/2014, 2:28:29 PM] Remy: XD
[25/12/2014, 2:28:37 PM] Remy: I love you so much right now
[25/12/2014, 2:28:43 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Hmm. Would that break any rules?
[25/12/2014, 2:28:43 PM] Remy: With your brilliant brain
[25/12/2014, 2:28:50 PM] Ian Cheong: it wouldnt break any rules.
[25/12/2014, 2:28:53 PM] Ian Cheong: that i know of
[25/12/2014, 2:29:04 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): !
[25/12/2014, 2:29:08 PM] Dan Olson: Not any written rules
[25/12/2014, 2:29:15 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[25/12/2014, 2:29:18 PM] Dan Olson: TECHNICALLY NOT ILLEGAL!
[25/12/2014, 2:31:37 PM] Ian Cheong: I spent 150 on games THIS MONTH
[25/12/2014, 2:31:43 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[25/12/2014, 2:31:48 PM] Tesseract: hah
[25/12/2014, 2:31:50 PM] Athena Hollow: BIGGEST ANTI-GAMES PERSON EVAR, IAN
[25/12/2014, 2:31:58 PM] Charloppe: im enjoying this game but anto gamer
[25/12/2014, 2:32:18 PM] Dan Olson: I don't want to know what I spent on games these last couple years
[25/12/2014, 2:32:48 PM] Dan Olson: Basically the money from Folding Ideas, since it's only 30-200$ a month, just goes into a PayPal account, and I buy online crap out of that.
[25/12/2014, 2:33:04 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Alright, I don't have any dang money so I'd need to add up what people are willing to pitch in.
[25/12/2014, 2:33:17 PM] Tesseract: is pitching in going to reveal my info in any way
[25/12/2014, 2:33:23 PM] Ian Cheong: nope tess
[25/12/2014, 2:33:24 PM] Dan Olson: I'll go 20$ AMERIC CANADIAN US DOLLARS
[25/12/2014, 2:35:25 PM] Remy: This is worth $10-20 to me. It's worth more but I can afford what I just said
[25/12/2014, 2:35:45 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[25/12/2014, 2:35:50 PM] Athena Hollow: being an adult can die in a fire.
[25/12/2014, 2:35:58 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Anyone know if they can look up the card name on the account if they wanna be assholes?
[25/12/2014, 2:36:04 PM] Alex Lifschitz: I mean, bigger assholes than us
[25/12/2014, 2:36:05 PM] Dan Olson: Make it 50, count up what everyone else can contribute, I'll top it up.
[25/12/2014, 2:36:05 PM] Tesseract: the satisfaction of being an asshole to nerds is worth the world to me
[25/12/2014, 2:36:07 PM] Tesseract: but ten bucks
[25/12/2014, 2:36:44 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Wait, so Dan, you're saying the $30 pledged so far on top of 50?
[25/12/2014, 2:37:17 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Will send my $10 by the end of next week when I has monies
[25/12/2014, 2:37:27 PM] Dan Olson: 20+whatever it takes to get over 50
[25/12/2014, 2:37:58 PM] drinternetphd: I call this method of crowdfunding to be an asshole: "dickstarter"
Dan has beef with TotalBiscuit (he can be seen randomly attacking him multiple times in the chat logs), he suggested "that blue GG portrait of Baine" as an image to use on the ad. Continuing his dehumanization, Dan thinks all of Gamergate were "gleefully uneducated and uncultured fucks" because of 8chans infinity symbol.
[25/12/2014, 2:38:44 PM] Alex Lifschitz: OMG wait we can put an image
[25/12/2014, 2:38:52 PM] Tesseract: oh god
[25/12/2014, 2:38:55 PM] drinternetphd: I am so on this
[25/12/2014, 2:38:55 PM] Tesseract: but what
[25/12/2014, 2:39:02 PM] Athena Hollow: omggggg
[25/12/2014, 2:39:05 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Hmm
[25/12/2014, 2:39:16 PM] Tesseract: something symbolic of misandry
[25/12/2014, 2:39:16 PM] Ian Cheong: dril's face
[25/12/2014, 2:39:27 PM] Tesseract: the male symbol with an x over it
[25/12/2014, 2:39:33 PM] Tesseract: ehh
[25/12/2014, 2:39:35 PM] Athena Hollow: I think that's, like, all of our faces Tess.
[25/12/2014, 2:39:42 PM] Athena Hollow: we're all symbolic of misandry at this point LOL
[25/12/2014, 2:39:57 PM] Tesseract: or
[25/12/2014, 2:40:02 PM] Tesseract: that pic of saint anita on ghazi
[25/12/2014, 2:40:04 PM] Alex Lifschitz: I should probably also put "NMS for discussion of CP" in the link just to be fair
[25/12/2014, 2:40:06 PM] Dan Olson: oh, god, totally unethical, but that blue GG portrait of Baine
[25/12/2014, 2:44:52 PM] Dan Olson: god, yes, 8chan snake over GG heart
[25/12/2014, 2:45:09 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[25/12/2014, 2:45:13 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): LOL
[25/12/2014, 2:45:16 PM] Tesseract: hehehehehe
[25/12/2014, 2:45:22 PM] Alex Lifschitz: "The Mods are Always Asleep (discussion of 8chan's complicity in pedophilia, NMS, NSFW) -- Merry Christmas, KIA"
[25/12/2014, 2:45:26 PM] Athena Hollow: ok, my toes are popcicles, lemme know when it's live
[25/12/2014, 2:45:31 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Going with that
[25/12/2014, 2:45:35 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): approved
[25/12/2014, 2:45:36 PM] Remy: I love it
[25/12/2014, 2:45:39 PM] Dan Olson: I know it's supposed to be a vine or a ribbon or whatever, but it's totally a double headed snake
[25/12/2014, 2:45:41 PM] Ian Cheong: Dig it.
[25/12/2014, 2:45:44 PM] drinternetphd: what about evidence over discussion?
[25/12/2014, 2:45:44 PM] Remy: I love it I love it I love it
[25/12/2014, 2:45:48 PM] Dan Olson: because it shits and talks out of the same orifice
[25/12/2014, 2:46:16 PM] Tesseract: 8chan is also known as infinitychan
[25/12/2014, 2:46:17 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): PROOFS
[25/12/2014, 2:46:22 PM] Tesseract: the 8 is a sideways infinity sign
[25/12/2014, 2:46:34 PM] Tesseract: referring to the ability for users to create their own boards
[25/12/2014, 2:49:48 PM] Dan Olson: yeah, and it just goes to show that they're all gleefully uneducated and uncultured fucks. Ouruboros eats its tail, and no one gives a shit about amphisbaena.
[25/12/2014, 2:50:04 PM] Remy: XD
[25/12/2014, 2:50:24 PM] Dan Olson: Except Pliny.
[25/12/2014, 2:56:33 PM] Dan Olson: If anyone runs into problems, or if money's just that tight, Folding Ideas will cover the spread.
[25/12/2014, 2:57:21 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol, earlier today KiA freaked out over that ad because they thought GamerGhazi made it
[25/12/2014, 2:57:30 PM] Peter Coffin: Folding ideas?
[25/12/2014, 2:57:34 PM] drinternetphd:
[25/12/2014, 2:57:43 PM] Dan Olson: My show
[25/12/2014, 2:57:47 PM] Tesseract: nah it's some fucker who wants to profit over the month-dead shirtgate
[25/12/2014, 2:57:48 PM] Dan Olson: the money from my show
[25/12/2014, 2:57:53 PM] Dan Olson: sits in PayPal
[25/12/2014, 2:57:56 PM] Peter Coffin: OH
[25/12/2014, 2:58:15 PM] Peter Coffin: Right, I was like what did that have to do with money
[25/12/2014, 2:58:18 PM] Peter Coffin: Sorry
Dan wanted to go to MAGfest just to see Arthur Chu's panel, and immediately thought about Gamergate and roleplayed them complaining about "oldfag shit" being shitted up.
[25/12/2014, 3:06:47 PM] Dan Olson: I almost want to try and scrape together cash to go to MAGfest just to go to Arthur's panel.
[25/12/2014, 3:07:58 PM] Dan Olson: Complaining that MAGfest isn't going to let them shit up the place "Jesus wtf happened to all the oldfag shit? First something aweful, then 4chan, now magfest?"
Dan wanted to start "churning out shitty niche erotica for Kindle."
[25/12/2014, 3:29:19 PM] Dan Olson: What's the Kindle Books page minimum? 12? 14?
[25/12/2014, 3:29:20 PM] Remy: But there's one scene that would have to be put in
[25/12/2014, 3:29:52 PM] Ian Cheong: 10 pages i think
[25/12/2014, 3:29:56 PM] Athena Hollow: much better. popcicle toes no longer
[25/12/2014, 3:29:57 PM] Peter Coffin: Wasn't a recent book 11
[25/12/2014, 3:30:22 PM] Remy: Where the Fedoramancer rescues the Hooker Damsel In Distress and she exclaims that he's Just So Manly That She'll Be With Him For Free (like that scene in every fucking video game) only he rejects her because he's surrounded by ninjas
[25/12/2014, 3:30:27 PM] Peter Coffin: By people not knowing how top not be shit
[25/12/2014, 3:30:30 PM] Peter Coffin: To
[25/12/2014, 3:30:58 PM] Remy: btw I do not like using the word "hooker" myself ^_^" Was using that b/c it would have been the Noire wording
[25/12/2014, 3:31:04 PM] Remy: Noir*?
[25/12/2014, 3:31:14 PM] Peter Coffin: I got it
[25/12/2014, 3:31:53 PM] Remy: David don't tell me your'e going to make a GamerGate story
[25/12/2014, 3:31:53 PM] Dan Olson: I've been repeatedly tempted to just start churning out shitty niche erotica for Kindle. And extra 15$ every odd week for an afternoon of writing isn't that bad a deal.
[25/12/2014, 3:37:27 PM] Remy: And vampires and werewolves are done
[25/12/2014, 3:37:30 PM] Remy: what about mummies?
[25/12/2014, 3:37:35 PM] Remy: Have people done mummy porn yet?
[25/12/2014, 3:37:42 PM] Remy: necrophiliacs needs books, too
[25/12/2014, 3:37:51 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Oh, baby, unwrap me
[25/12/2014, 3:37:55 PM] Remy: XD
[25/12/2014, 3:38:01 PM] Dan Olson: Probably someone has done mummy, but it's def not overdone
[25/12/2014, 3:38:08 PM] Athena Hollow: Dina wrote that Davis/Skull ship yesterday. Does that count?
[25/12/2014, 3:38:10 PM] Dan Olson: and it's got a built in "fix him" hook
[25/12/2014, 3:38:13 PM] Tesseract: I looked for it but it just gave me "mommy" spelled mummy
[25/12/2014, 3:38:20 PM] Tesseract: also rollercoasters http://railrunnermiranda.deviantart.com/gallery/
[25/12/2014, 3:38:28 PM] Ian Cheong: Link to Dina's fic of davis/skull?
[25/12/2014, 3:38:31 PM] Ian Cheong: I haven't read it.
[25/12/2014, 3:38:42 PM] Dan Olson: like, he's all bandaged, so she nurses him to nakedness and it turns out he's actually a super hot Egyptian mangod.
The logs/Dan returns 13 hours after the last and it's now afternoon on Christmas Day. He had over a thousand Twitter notifications. He made a comment as he was leaving to Christmas dinner about it being "quiet" that day, as if he didn't understand why everyone else was busy with a major holiday and not sitting in a Skype chat buying ads to be "assholes" to people like himself and the others did. http://archive.is/iRR4f
[26/12/2014, 4:55:49 AM] Dan Olson: I saw that propagandacheck article, then realized there were over a thousand notices to go through, so skipped to the bottom. Anything important happen in the last couple hours?
[26/12/2014, 4:56:01 AM] Ian Cheong: Nope, nothing of note.
[26/12/2014, 4:56:08 AM] Ian Cheong: Though Zoe did get a funny video sent to her.
[26/12/2014, 4:56:11 AM] Dan Olson: Sweet, blessed silence.
[26/12/2014, 4:57:36 AM] Dan Olson: oh, crap, I had a joke planned for hours, then forgot it once I sat down
[26/12/2014, 4:57:37 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Trenchcoat-sensei like bathrobe-sensei.
[26/12/2014, 4:57:41 AM] Dan Olson: okay, pretend I'm not here
[26/12/2014, 4:57:49 AM] Ian Cheong: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2fJ760eoGA
[26/12/2014, 4:57:51 AM] Chris Kluwe: crickets
[26/12/2014, 4:57:51 AM] Ian Cheong: Here's the video
[26/12/2014, 4:58:00 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: oh, hi chris! merry christmas
[26/12/2014, 4:58:00 AM] Dan Olson: Merry Christmas from Prison! JK, I'm eating waffles with my family!
[26/12/2014, 5:53:53 AM] Randi Harper: okay, so, what's the deal with all this childporn shit? As far as I can tell, this has been the conversation:
us: "8chan hosts CP!"
them: "We report CP."
us: "Here is CP that's on 8chan."
them: "REPORTING YOU TO THE FBI FOR DISTRIBUTING CP"
[26/12/2014, 5:53:57 AM] Randi Harper: am I reading that right?
[26/12/2014, 5:54:05 AM] Remy: Yup
[26/12/2014, 5:54:21 AM] Chris Kluwe: that about covers it
[26/12/2014, 5:54:33 AM] Chris Kluwe: see, the actual crime isn't hosting the CP on your site and failing to moderate it off
[26/12/2014, 5:54:42 AM] Chris Kluwe: it's TELLING people about that
[26/12/2014, 5:54:45 AM] Remy: XD
[26/12/2014, 5:55:25 AM] Randi Harper: sigh
[26/12/2014, 5:55:27 AM] Randi Harper: (sheep)
[26/12/2014, 5:55:33 AM] Dan Olson: Combined with accusations that I planted the porn, followed immediately by dismissal that the content isn't actually porn, followed by just calling me a pedophile because "how else would you know it's there?"
[26/12/2014, 5:56:03 AM] Dan Olson: plus a massive heap of "WHY DIDN'T YOU REPORT IT THEN KEEP YOUR FUCKING MOUTH SHUT?!‽?"
[26/12/2014, 5:56:17 AM] Randi Harper: they appear to be quite fixated on the idea of us planting things to call them out on.
[26/12/2014, 5:56:20 AM] Chris Kluwe: all coming from a horde of loli- shota- twitter avatars
[26/12/2014, 5:56:26 AM] Ian Cheong: They expect people to report the CP to the admins on 8chan so they can cover it up and pretend that their website isn't a venue where pedophiles congregate and share their disgusting caches.
[26/12/2014, 5:56:49 AM] Dan Olson: because they know that the reports go into the Twilight Zone due to the institutional disincentives to pursuing softcore distribution hives.
[26/12/2014, 5:58:02 AM] Dan Olson: and they know that the site admins don't care unless it's hardcore because the site admins wrote the fucking rules saying "yeah, a 6 year old bending over so you can see her vulva through her underwear is 100% above board as far as we're concerned. Shit, we'll put that one on a banner!"
[26/12/2014, 7:16:31 AM] Dan Olson: Yes, she is. Alright, off to my parents for dinner for real. Catch up with everyone in a couple hours, hopefully today will stay this quiet.
Dan was called a "transphobe" and the thought stayed with him for hours, he did admit he "used to be kinda transphobic" because he was a "privileged-white-dude-from-the-suburbs" and implies he had written transphobic things on a blog in the past. Dan and the others were wondering when/if his Medium blog was getting picked up by "major media outlets" and Dan believed it would have been "grabbed hard right away" if it wasn't Christmas.
[26/12/2014, 1:11:46 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): nothing else pressing. no new OPs or whatever that I can see
[26/12/2014, 1:11:53 PM] drinternetphd: ok cool
[26/12/2014, 1:12:11 PM] Dan Olson: yeah, though I did get called a transphobe earlier today with no clarification
[26/12/2014, 1:12:31 PM] Dan Olson: I dunno, maybe they found something kinda shitty I wrote on a blog a decade ago?
[26/12/2014, 1:30:49 PM] Dan Olson: Well, it's been 5 hours and no one's clarified on the tweet "Watch as nobody on their side mentions how @FoldableHuman is transphobic." sooooooooooo...
[26/12/2014, 1:31:51 PM] Dan Olson: I used to be kinda transphobic in that privileged-white-dude-from-the-suburbs kinda way, but I like to think I've grown past that.
[26/12/2014, 1:15:25 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Have any major media outlets picked up on the 8chan & CP stuff?
[26/12/2014, 1:15:49 PM] Chris Kluwe: heh, Ken doesn't like my "sensationalism" :p
[26/12/2014, 1:15:56 PM] Remy: I haven't pitched it to the folks I know at PBS newshour yet
[26/12/2014, 1:16:01 PM] Chris Kluwe: which is fine, you're allowed to not like the way i write things
[26/12/2014, 1:16:15 PM] Remy: B/C that relationship is really tenuous and I prefer to prove my value rather than appear clingy
[26/12/2014, 1:16:17 PM] Dan Olson: No, but it's starting to get in their ears. It's had enough hang time that they could grab it once the post-Christmas normal sets in
[26/12/2014, 1:16:29 PM] drinternetphd: yeah it is kind of christmas
[26/12/2014, 1:16:37 PM] drinternetphd: no one wants to write about child porn on Christmas
[26/12/2014, 1:17:46 PM] Dan Olson: if this had been Jan 3rd or something like that then at least Vox/Slate/Jezzebel level outlets would have grabbed it hard right away
According to Dan, "most of the organized reactionary groups" tried to do some "recruiting" of Gamergate supporters, but supposedly "realized that GG is full of morons that resist all organization." He claims the "Aryan Nation" was one of these.
[26/12/2014, 1:33:58 PM] Dan Olson: Most of the organized reactionary groups did some small recruiting then realized that GG is full of morons that resist all organization.
[26/12/2014, 1:34:11 PM] Remy: I honestly thought the Church of Scientology would swoop down and scoop up all those impressionable young minds
[26/12/2014, 1:35:12 PM] Dan Olson: mmm, no, not CoS. Aryan Nation, yes.
Here we see Zoe, Dan, and others from the chat joking about how if there was a "delicious food" loved by pedophiles then they would totally stop eating it "just in case." Nyberg, who was actively in the chat while they said this, would be outed as a pedophile a few days after this conversation. They would all support and try to provide cover for Nyberg after his extensive history of self-confessed pedophilia came to light.
[26/12/2014, 1:38:22 PM] drinternetphd: yo if there was a delicious food and pedos loved it pretty loudly I'd probably stop eating it
[26/12/2014, 1:38:25 PM] drinternetphd: just in case
[26/12/2014, 1:38:27 PM] Chris Kluwe: along with "and burn it to the ground"
[26/12/2014, 1:38:41 PM] Remy: XD
[26/12/2014, 1:38:49 PM] drinternetphd: pretty much any time my venn diagram circle gets near one of pedos I go screeching in the other direction
[26/12/2014, 1:38:50 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: wasn't this the premise of a USB sketch? Or Kids in the Hall or somesuch?
[26/12/2014, 1:38:50 PM] Dan Olson: "Pedos love corn chips!"
"Whelp, sorry corn, we had a good run, you and I."
[26/12/2014, 1:42:38 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: yeah i intentionally tag #gamergate because it's funny when half (or all, sometimes) of the big tagged posts for the day are against GG
Dan was anxiously waiting for an "angry thread" over the ad they bought, and he and the chat group sat there refreshing KIA (and then the threads) for hours this day. One of the chat members angrily told the others to "downvote that fucker who is saying you can't use ads to troll." (At the time of this post that comment was at +102 upvotes lol)
[26/12/2014, 2:16:25 PM] Dan Olson: Does ad have an angry thread yet?
[26/12/2014, 2:16:28 PM] drinternetphd: no
[26/12/2014, 3:33:38 PM] Tesseract: http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAct...ds_against_kotakuinaction_that_link_to_child/ downvote that fucker who is saying you can't use ads to troll
[26/12/2014, 3:33:48 PM] drinternetphd: I really want to go to EVO and compete
[26/12/2014, 3:33:51 PM] drinternetphd: I'm undefeated this year
[26/12/2014, 3:34:27 PM] Dan Olson: "which is a violation of privacy"!!!!!!
[26/12/2014, 3:34:46 PM] drinternetphd: the most humiliating moment in that game jam reality show we walked out on was that the guy who made nidhogg was one of the judges for the embarassing challenges they made us do
[26/12/2014, 3:34:57 PM] Dan Olson: oh, god.
[26/12/2014, 3:35:12 PM] drinternetphd: so i got to meet one of my heros while being forced to fingerpaint with jon tron's idiot ass in the background asking the british member of my team to say words that sounded funny with his accent
[26/12/2014, 3:35:20 PM] Dan Olson: Coming from the production side, that whole exposé filled me with cringe.
Dan said he wanted to "get something off [his] chest" and said he had found a "whole series of books" created like kids' books that were to be used for "grooming and pedo normalization." Dan thinks this was "almost worse" than "hardcore CP" and said it was left out of the Medium blog because it was "impossible" for him to make it "remotely palatable." @Portajohn correct me if I'm wrong but I want to say Nyberg linked to shit like this in the FFShrine logs? In any case, this was "haunting" Dan.
[26/12/2014, 3:54:22 PM] Dan Olson: can... can I get something off my chest, or... I dunno.
[26/12/2014, 3:54:38 PM] drinternetphd: yeah dan go for broke
[26/12/2014, 3:54:45 PM] Peter Coffin: do it dan
[26/12/2014, 3:54:45 PM] Dan Olson: there's this shit that's been haunting me for days, but I don't want to get crazy dark in here
[26/12/2014, 3:55:40 PM] Dan Olson: When I was researching I found a bunch of stuff that I just couldn't put in the article as examples. I tried to make it remotely palatable and it was impossible.
[26/12/2014, 3:55:57 PM] Dan Olson: It wasn't, like, hardcore CP, but in a way it was almost worse
[26/12/2014, 3:56:06 PM] drinternetphd: dan I feel you. I had a similar experience when I was pulling shit together for patreon and my white house contact
[26/12/2014, 3:56:31 PM] Dan Olson: someone had written and illustrated this whole series of books written and styled like kids books, Dick and Jane style
[26/12/2014, 3:56:44 PM] Dan Olson: but the whole thing was grooming and pedo normalization
Dan apparently is "aggressive" when he goes to get Ativan, lest the doctors decide he doesn't need to be on something that strong.
KIA posters began blaming Dan for buying the ad, which he did in fact contribute some amount of money towards.
[26/12/2014, 4:10:23 PM] Dan Olson: I think they're blaming me for the ad, which isn't entirely untrue.
[26/12/2014, 4:10:56 PM] Dan Olson: thinking that I'm doubling down, which also isn't entirely untrue.
[26/12/2014, 4:15:29 PM] Dan Olson: "People need to be reporting this article, IMO. This is distributing blurred and easily exploitable images. Report it." MORE PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE CSI IS A DOCUMENTARY!
So during this whole Gamergate drama there was a court case of Chelsea/Zoe vs. Eron Gjoni (Eron was the guy she cheated on with at least five other guys, he found out, they tried to make things work, Zoe was a compulsive liar, relationship died, he wrote the zoepost as a warning for people to avoid dating her, Zoe got a restraining order on him which she eventually lifted after it was inevitably going to be overturned as unconstitutional - legal superman Eugene Volokh wrote an amicus brief for Gjoni's appeal). Just before Christmas they had a court date and Zoe chimped out in the chat group after the judge had allegedly told her she should "switch careers" and get off the Internet, causing Zoe to chimp because the internet is her "fucking workplace." Dan said he would be "livid" if he was told that and that there needed to be a ruling declaring the internet a "place of work."
[26/12/2014, 4:43:47 PM] Dan Olson: Oh man, when I get my full Complimentary GamerGate Background Check they'll discover that I pled guilty to a 40$ speeding ticket in Montana.
[26/12/2014, 4:43:49 PM] drinternetphd: I'm still so fucking mad that the magistrate told me the harassment didn't count cause it was online
[26/12/2014, 4:44:02 PM] drinternetphd: and if I didn't want to get harassed I should get offline forever and switch careers
[26/12/2014, 4:44:06 PM] Dan Olson: I would be livid at that, Zoe.
[26/12/2014, 4:44:07 PM] Chris Kluwe: that's something the legal system really needs to get into gear and address
[26/12/2014, 4:44:10 PM] drinternetphd: yeah.
[26/12/2014, 4:44:14 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah that makes me mad too. I can’t believe someone said that to you
[26/12/2014, 4:44:16 PM] Chris Kluwe: because the internet isn't going away anytime soon
[26/12/2014, 4:44:19 PM] drinternetphd: nope
[26/12/2014, 4:44:23 PM] drinternetphd: and it's my fucking workplace
[26/12/2014, 4:44:32 PM] drinternetphd: "get a new career" should not be fucking advice
[26/12/2014, 4:45:28 PM] Dan Olson: this actually sort of goes back to my comments about the limits of English
[26/12/2014, 4:45:49 PM] Dan Olson: we don't really have a way of conceptualizing a ficitive shared space with a single word
[26/12/2014, 4:46:21 PM] Remy: lol "My tips for drug dealers" by a white dude who thinks he probably could do that job better than you could
[26/12/2014, 4:46:28 PM] Dan Olson: so a ruling declairing "the internet" as a place of work operates on the definition of "place" as a physical entity.
The chat group laughed at KIA posters believing content would be removed by site admins. Dan said it was "the perfect world view of someone who's never been fucked by the system." He was also worried that more "numbnuts" would be reporting him to the RCMP, he claims they "didn't care at all" when he had called and told them about his "expose on CP."
[26/12/2014, 5:24:15 PM] Peter Coffin: >This needs to go to authorities
Nope, we're better than pedoGhazi on this one: it's Reddit content we report to Reddit, much like 8chan content needs to be allowed to be reported to 8chan.
[26/12/2014, 5:24:20 PM] Peter Coffin: HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[26/12/2014, 5:24:23 PM] Peter Coffin: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[26/12/2014, 5:24:56 PM] Dan Olson: "The system works, believe in the system"
[26/12/2014, 5:25:09 PM] Peter Coffin: pedoghazi: reports crime to authorities, kia reports pedo content to… a site that doesn’t give a fuck?
[26/12/2014, 5:25:11 PM] Dan Olson: the perfect world view of someone who's never been fucked by the system
[26/12/2014, 5:25:40 PM] drinternetphd: i am so proud of this twitter thread https://twitter.com/TheQuinnspiracy/status/548408900123258880
[26/12/2014, 5:26:02 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Dan, I've mentioned this before but so much of their willful lack of nuance I think stems from growing up in a bubble where plausibility always erred in their favor
[26/12/2014, 5:26:33 PM] Dan Olson: Yup
[26/12/2014, 5:26:38 PM] Alex Lifschitz: And now we get to take them down because for the first time, the system does not give a fuck about them and this is our turf
[26/12/2014, 5:26:46 PM] Peter Coffin: lol zoe
[26/12/2014, 5:27:06 PM] Dan Olson: "You could give your local police station a phone call. Seems like the easiest approach."
[26/12/2014, 5:27:26 PM] Dan Olson: God, I really should get in touch with the RCMP again now that this is ramping up
[26/12/2014, 5:27:32 PM] Alex Lifschitz: It's why they would whine about SJWs being "entitled" and then fucking lose their shit when people insisted being behind GG might fuck their employment prospects, or that it must be illegal if people block them on twitter.
[26/12/2014, 5:27:41 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Entitlement is really at the core of this whole thing.
[26/12/2014, 5:27:55 PM] Peter Coffin: def
[26/12/2014, 5:27:57 PM] Dan Olson: like, I have to take it on somewhat good faith that at least some of these numbnuts have actually reported me to the RCMP
[26/12/2014, 5:28:24 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Did you get anyone's contact info when last you called?
[26/12/2014, 5:28:36 PM] Peter Coffin: alright guys I need some sleep
[26/12/2014, 5:28:43 PM] Dan Olson: yeah, but they were only interested in potential Swatting
[26/12/2014, 5:28:58 PM] Peter Coffin: take care, you all reign supreme and are awesome
[26/12/2014, 5:29:10 PM] Dan Olson: the fact that I did an expose on CP didn't even register with them
[26/12/2014, 5:29:36 PM] Dan Olson: like, they didn't care at all beyond asking for the site address
[26/12/2014, 5:30:47 PM] Dan Olson: how mny times today have I seen "if it were illegal it wouldn't be allowed on 8chan"
[26/12/2014, 5:30:54 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Dunno. I doubt the RCMP will bust down your door. Especially when everyone is sending them the same fucking page over and over again.
[26/12/2014, 5:31:15 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Likely they saw it, said "this ain't shit" and closed the file.
[26/12/2014, 5:31:23 PM] Dan Olson: "If (name any of the black men who have been executed by cops in the last month alone) hadn't done something wrong they wouldn't have shot him"
[26/12/2014, 5:31:49 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Conflation of legality with morality is a touchstone of the American right.
[26/12/2014, 5:32:17 PM] Alex Lifschitz: "If we legalize marijuana/gay marriage, we'll be encouraging it!"
[26/12/2014, 5:32:39 PM] Remy: In other words "my group is winning. Why change things?"
[26/12/2014, 5:32:39 PM] Alex Lifschitz: And they wonder why Breitbart scooted in to pick at their livers.
[26/12/2014, 5:32:48 PM] drinternetphd: "don't let girls under 20 get the hpv vaccine they'll go out and be promiscuous"
[26/12/2014, 5:33:50 PM] Alex Lifschitz: "Hey so what about all these sexual assaults by these frat bros"
"Oh, boys will be boys."
"Okay. How about these girls looking at an anti-cancer vaccine?"
"WELL MAYBE THEY JUST SHOULDN'T BE SLUTS"
[26/12/2014, 5:35:20 PM] Dan Olson: "how about this gang rape of a girl being spread around on social media?"
"well, under age drinking is bad, but a high school bender is basically a rite of passage (oh and she's a whore and should kill herself)"
[26/12/2014, 5:35:47 PM] Dan Olson: ugh
[26/12/2014, 5:35:49 PM] Dan Olson: blah
[26/12/2014, 5:35:51 PM] Dan Olson: blor
[26/12/2014, 5:36:33 PM] Dan Olson: yeah, I'm going to bed
[26/12/2014, 5:36:46 PM] Dan Olson: maybe read some history of WW2 to cheer me up, at this point
[26/12/2014, 5:36:51 PM] drinternetphd: here
[26/12/2014, 5:36:54 PM] drinternetphd: really quick
[26/12/2014, 5:36:55 PM] drinternetphd: have this
[26/12/2014, 5:36:55 PM] drinternetphd: https://vine.co/v/Ml6ubd6mH6P
[26/12/2014, 5:37:03 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Did you see that video of a dog on a Roomba
[26/12/2014, 5:37:07 PM] Dan Olson: I LOVE THIS PIGGY!
[26/12/2014, 5:37:18 PM] Dan Olson: The holiday edition you sent to Kenny?
[26/12/2014, 5:37:25 PM] Remy: Go to YouTube and type in "Japanese bunny island"
[26/12/2014, 5:37:35 PM] Alex Lifschitz: yep
[26/12/2014, 5:37:51 PM] Dan Olson: change of plans, watching piggy forever
[26/12/2014, 5:38:02 PM] Dan Olson: die happy
[26/12/2014, 5:38:13 PM] Remy: If I'm ever a millionaire I'm taking all of you to bunny island
[26/12/2014, 5:38:45 PM] Dan Olson: SHE'S SO ROUND AND HAPPY!
[26/12/2014, 5:39:12 PM] Dan Olson: thanks
[26/12/2014, 5:39:17 PM] Dan Olson: a'ight, night!
KIA was blaming GamerGhazi for 'pooling money to spread child porn,' Aaron "SF' Simpson scoffed and said "we were doing it on Christmas Day."
[27/12/2014, 5:11:09 AM] Tesseract: "December 26th 2014. The day Gamerghazi pooled money to spread child porn."
[27/12/2014, 5:11:22 AM] Tesseract: it's hilarious how they just blame ghazi for fucking everything
[27/12/2014, 5:11:26 AM] SF: Pfft we were doing it on Christmas Day.
[27/12/2014, 5:11:34 AM] Tesseract: my twitter alone is 3/4 the size of ghazi
[27/12/2014, 5:11:36 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yes. GamerGhazi. Well, most of us post there, but it was done here not there XD
[27/12/2014, 5:11:53 AM] SF: Also of note it's funny they're convinced the Illuminati exists but don't seem to believe we ACTUALLY do when something happens.
[27/12/2014, 5:11:58 AM] Dan Olson: hey, sweet, I tabbed over just in time to see the Dan threads
[27/12/2014, 5:12:35 AM] SF: I see they're calling you Dan "I'll show you on the puppet where I'm about to touch you" Olson
The chat began wondering if their pet pedophile Nyberg was ok, he showed up about not long after. Dan admitted that "some things have gotten under [his] skin" and was "starving them out of information in order to keep the anomaly hunting to a minimum." Dan was also worried about imposter Twitter accounts and made Hello Kitty burner emails (apparently his preferred source for dummy emails) to "secure" Twitter handles.
[27/12/2014, 5:25:13 AM] Dan Olson: They're comparing me to Jian Ghomeshi, as though "whistleblower" is somehow comparable to "literally strangled and beat multiple women"
[27/12/2014, 5:25:40 AM] Dina : JESUS
[27/12/2014, 5:25:47 AM] Dan Olson: "anyone who defends the guy on Twitter can be called as one of Dan's accomplices"
[27/12/2014, 5:26:05 AM] Dina : speaking of which, is Sarah ok?
[27/12/2014, 5:26:14 AM] Dina : they were hitting her pretty hard today
[27/12/2014, 5:26:14 AM] Dan Olson: Just like how all of Charles Manson's prison groupies also went to jail!
[27/12/2014, 5:26:44 AM] Quinnae: hugs Dan
[27/12/2014, 5:26:50 AM] Quinnae: I haven't seen Sarah, no.
[27/12/2014, 5:26:56 AM] Dan Olson: I dunno, I haven't heard from her today
[27/12/2014, 5:27:05 AM] Dina : I hope she's alright
[27/12/2014, 5:43:11 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: how bad have things been the last day or so dan?
[27/12/2014, 5:43:53 AM] Dan Olson: mmm, some things have gotten under my skin, but it's just the same few things over and over and over
[27/12/2014, 5:44:09 AM] Dan Olson: I'm starving them out of information in order to keep the anomaly hunting to a minimum
[27/12/2014, 5:44:28 AM] Dan Olson: I'd rather see the same three accusations 200 times than have 200 different accusations
[27/12/2014, 5:44:46 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: nod
[27/12/2014, 5:45:02 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Katherine, look who seems to be hovering around your timeline. None other than Izel: https://twitter.com/i_z_e_l_s/status/548595185199099906
[27/12/2014, 5:45:08 AM] Dan Olson: and I just know that even if I talk about stuff like, yes, I filed reports, yes, I talked to the police, they're just going to nitpick that for every little detail
[27/12/2014, 5:45:56 AM] Dan Olson: "HE DIDN'T REPORT!" feels like an easy myth to dispell, but it's such a blunt accusation that it's easier to deal with.
[27/12/2014, 5:46:06 AM] Peter Coffin: indeed
[27/12/2014, 5:46:10 AM] Quinnae: I already have them blocked, but thank you for pointing it out.
[27/12/2014, 5:46:56 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Katherine, no prob.
[27/12/2014, 5:47:02 AM] Dan Olson: if I give them details suddenly I'm dealing with shit that passes for legitimate far more easily, like "criticisms" of when and how I reported, or "didn't report *enough*" or pressing for file numbers and proof.
[27/12/2014, 5:47:45 AM] Dan Olson: I have literally nothing to gain, so I'm not even going to get on that carousel.
[27/12/2014, 5:49:38 AM] Dan Olson: what's an easy way of securing twitter usernames?
[27/12/2014, 5:49:57 AM] Peter Coffin: define securing
[27/12/2014, 5:50:10 AM] Dan Olson: like, squatting on impersonation accounts
[27/12/2014, 5:50:22 AM] Peter Coffin: just register them
[27/12/2014, 5:50:34 AM] Peter Coffin: twitter has no extra capabilities
[27/12/2014, 5:50:39 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yeah. i registered this one: https://twitter.com/igivzx
[27/12/2014, 5:50:41 AM] Peter Coffin: really not a scalable platform
[27/12/2014, 5:51:06 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I'm thinking of making it a bot like Randi's that uses my timeline to generate tweets
[27/12/2014, 5:51:13 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): would be funny if GGers couldn't tell me and the bot apart
[27/12/2014, 5:51:14 AM] Peter Coffin: they never impersonate me, they do impersonate my "fake girlfriend" because it's easier
[27/12/2014, 5:51:18 AM] Randi Harper: it works pretty well
[27/12/2014, 5:51:57 AM] Dan Olson: bah, I need unique emails for each
[27/12/2014, 5:52:25 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ah. Benefit of having my domain name set up for email. just make a new address that fowards to my main
[27/12/2014, 5:53:52 AM] Randi Harper: sunset overdrive 50% off
[27/12/2014, 5:53:57 AM] Randi Harper: xbax
[27/12/2014, 5:54:21 AM] Randi Harper: how can i gift someone a game on xbax?
[27/12/2014, 5:54:33 AM] Peter Coffin: xboax
[27/12/2014, 5:55:42 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): xboox
[27/12/2014, 5:55:54 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): xbucks (the x is for shill)
[27/12/2014, 5:58:14 AM] Dan Olson: good old Hello Kitty burner emails
[27/12/2014, 6:00:46 AM] Dan Olson: Alright, two out of three most likely impersonations locked down.
Dan disturbingly typed in baby babble to wish pedophile Nick Nyberg a happy birthday.
[27/12/2014, 6:04:29 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: yeah i'm taking off for birthday stuff ~
[27/12/2014, 6:04:36 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): see you all later <3
[27/12/2014, 6:04:48 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: bai!
[27/12/2014, 6:04:51 AM] Dan Olson: HABBABIRDAAAH!
[27/12/2014, 6:04:57 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: ty dans <3
Dam went back to his alleged CP boards to try to update his blog post and celebrated because some of them were "nuked." Note that Dan mentions the boards were "unlisted." http://archive.is/hXGRb
[27/12/2014, 1:18:13 PM] Dan Olson: /doll/ is nuked!
[27/12/2014, 1:18:18 PM] Dan Olson: /DOLL/ IS NUKED!
[27/12/2014, 1:18:23 PM] Randi Harper: i always liked the girl next door.
[27/12/2014, 1:18:35 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Holy shit, Dan. We shamed 8chan into doing something?
[27/12/2014, 1:19:06 PM] Randi Harper: wow.
[27/12/2014, 1:19:25 PM] Chris Kluwe: add another to the CP stack
http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2005/01/dont_forget.html
[27/12/2014, 1:19:44 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Hopefully it's gone for good and they did not simply migrate to another board to try to "lose the heat"
[27/12/2014, 1:19:57 PM] Quinnae: That's good to hear, Dan.
[27/12/2014, 1:20:08 PM] Dan Olson: oh, they probably did, they were one of the unlisted boards with the worst offenders.
[27/12/2014, 1:27:17 PM] Dan Olson: nonude, preteen, and doll are all nuked
[27/12/2014, 1:47:57 PM] Dan Olson: so /hebe/ says /preteen/ was nuked because "redundancy" but no word on /nonude/ or /doll/
[27/12/2014, 1:48:27 PM] Peter Coffin: hmmm
[27/12/2014, 1:48:35 PM] Dan Olson: actually, moving to business in case all y'all don't want to read about pedo shit.
[27/12/2014, 3:04:48 PM] Dan Olson: HotWheels posted a mod post somewhere saying /doll/ got nuked and permabanned
[27/12/2014, 3:04:59 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ah, I see
[27/12/2014, 3:05:03 PM] Dan Olson: "the mod hadn't logged in for two weeks"
Nyberg returned to the Skype room and Dan was butthurt because 8chan's owner HotWheels had 'singled out' Nyberg. Nyberg copy-pasted a tweet into the chat where someone ha called him a "child hungry predator" who was after "under-age girls" - I don't recall if they had dug up Nyberg's past at this point or not.
[27/12/2014, 4:50:44 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: how goes everyone?
[27/12/2014, 4:51:32 PM] Dan Olson: Not too bad. I'm not sure if my mentions are actually silent, or if I've just blocked all the assholes at this point
[27/12/2014, 5:04:27 PM] Dan Olson: Kay, going ARC. Then hopefully have the resources for Purity so I can dirty bomb some filthy Harmony hippies.
[27/12/2014, 5:05:09 PM] SF: https://twitter.com/Tehd0x I can't tell if this new follower is an edgy child or an edgy manchild.
[27/12/2014, 5:10:03 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: scrumpmonkeyDec 25, 2014+16
Sarah Butts is a child hungry predator. She needs to be removed from society and preventing from stalking and capping people online all day full time. It's creepy as shit.
I mean how does she find time between photographing all those under-age girls though the hole in her lair?
[27/12/2014, 5:10:59 PM] Dan Olson: fsk
[27/12/2014, 5:11:17 PM] Dan Olson: also fuck HotWheels for singling you out
[27/12/2014, 5:11:28 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: wait what did hotwheels do
[27/12/2014, 5:11:28 PM] Charloppe: wait what
[27/12/2014, 5:11:29 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: and when was this
[27/12/2014, 5:11:44 PM] Dan Olson: https://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2qidle/8chan_admin_tries_to_spin_daily_dot_and_srhbutts
[27/12/2014, 5:12:07 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: oh, that
[27/12/2014, 5:12:09 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: yeah i saw that
[27/12/2014, 5:12:15 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: was nervous there was something more recent
[27/12/2014, 5:12:25 PM] Charloppe: i hate this man so much
[27/12/2014, 5:12:28 PM] Dan Olson: I don't think it's gonna get much traction, but still
[27/12/2014, 6:22:49 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Also, if I recall correctly, Hotwheels only consolidated boards? Pretty sure they're still there, and still pretty goddamn vile.
[27/12/2014, 6:23:16 PM] Alex Lifschitz: He himself admitted that 8chan is dead without them, I highly doubt he'd move the bodies so much as only the headstones.
[27/12/2014, 6:23:30 PM] Alex Lifschitz: If he did get rid of them, thank god.
[27/12/2014, 6:24:43 PM] Dan Olson: still, they flinched, and the change to the "global rules" is a significant flinch
[27/12/2014, 6:24:46 PM] Dan Olson: "Images that seem to have sexual posing. For instance, this could include a strong focus on the genitals, even if they're covered, or someone who is tied up in any way since it might be mistaken for bondage"
[27/12/2014, 6:25:06 PM] Dan Olson: it's enforcement will be willy-nilly and lame
[27/12/2014, 6:25:15 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: holy shit he updated it? i'm actually shocked
[27/12/2014, 6:25:49 PM] Dan Olson: but they acknowledged it
[27/12/2014, 6:26:13 PM] Dan Olson: because I'm fkn right: they're not in a grey area, they're in an unenforced area.
[27/12/2014, 6:26:20 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Question is, well, if the mods are still asleep.
[27/12/2014, 6:26:29 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: where is that update, dan?
[27/12/2014, 6:26:44 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Are you gonna update the medium article?
[27/12/2014, 6:27:08 PM] Dan Olson: oh, right, I went to do an update, then noticed that boards were nuked, and spent the rest of the evening scoping out the extent of that
[27/12/2014, 6:27:32 PM] Alex Lifschitz: So if people decide to pick it up.
I mean, they're clearly trying to do the same PR spin they always have, but at the end of the day they're still hosting lascivious pictures of kids for dudes to j/o to.
[27/12/2014, 6:27:57 PM] Alex Lifschitz: There's no way Hotwheels is getting rid of that or enforcing anything serious.
[27/12/2014, 6:27:57 PM] Dan Olson: I was going to add a line calling attention to the dates posted vs. dates gathered
[27/12/2014, 6:28:27 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: where is update to the rules you quoted?
[27/12/2014, 6:28:52 PM] Dan Olson: it's in the various "where'd our other jacking boards go?" threads
[27/12/2014, 6:29:22 PM] Dan Olson: several of them reference "global rules" and quote the exact same language, but that language isn't in the FAQ
[27/12/2014, 6:29:23 PM] Alex Lifschitz: It's still amazing you're willing to put yourself into that, Dan. I don't think we can all thank you enough for the work.
[27/12/2014, 6:29:42 PM] Dan Olson: which, in my mind, says the various mods all got a message from HW
[27/12/2014, 6:29:44 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: yeah that's weird because i don't see that in the global rules, at all
[27/12/2014, 6:30:54 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Being able to identify how they've half-assed it will potentially evergreen the story.
[27/12/2014, 6:31:59 PM] Dan Olson: oh, and HW's whole "yeah, I checked out /doll/ and it turned out the mod hadn't been on for, like, two weeks" still doesn't float the fact that the one banner picture of the girl posed doggystyle so you can see her vulva was posted on Nov. 3 and still up Dec. 18th
[27/12/2014, 6:34:17 PM] Alex Lifschitz: If you update the article, it also gives a good reason to push it around a second time as a followup when the holidays are over - but obviously, only as much as you're willing to. I know it's taxing.
[27/12/2014, 6:34:46 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Whatever you decide, we're behind you. It's more important that this shit gets taken down than than the culture war.
[27/12/2014, 6:35:00 PM] Dan Olson: Yeah, I might save up for a big update, rather than just a minor addendum.
[27/12/2014, 6:35:04 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Amen to that.
Dan said he was thinking about "quietly" leaving TGWTG because he had brought negative attention to the site, he didn't really fit in, and this would be a "good excuse" to leave. He also talked about what he perceived to be leadership failings, such as them not talking to him when he was failing to keep the 3 video a month schedule. He was afraid of TGWTG turning into a "victory totem" for Gamergate if they canned him for involving himself with CP.
[27/12/2014, 6:35:13 PM] Dan Olson: also I'm waiting to see where the TGWTG stuff falls.
[27/12/2014, 6:35:55 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: But really, I think that's more a case for very specifically reporting all this crap to the people whose job it is to scar themselves looking at it.
[27/12/2014, 6:36:02 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: and, what TGWTG stuff?
[27/12/2014, 6:36:25 PM] Dan Olson: I'm probably just going to quietly leave the site, since they're pretty allergic to attention, and I'm a bad fit all around for their schedule.
[27/12/2014, 6:37:17 PM] Dan Olson: The TGWTG bosses are not very happy to have gotten a pile of "Dan's a pedo rapist CP peddler" harassment emails.
[27/12/2014, 6:37:28 PM] Dan Olson: Which, you know, I don't blame them
[27/12/2014, 6:37:41 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Rough. Any other places you might move to?
[27/12/2014, 6:38:09 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: that sucks, dan
[27/12/2014, 6:38:13 PM] Alex Lifschitz: I'm more angry that TGWTG, like a lot of other places, seemingly can't dredge up the stones to stand with someone against a very clearly toxic mob of concern trolls.
[27/12/2014, 6:38:16 PM] Dan Olson: Honestly just stick with Chez and try and push some freelance writing.
[27/12/2014, 6:38:46 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Reminds me of Ubi and such. Just makes me angry.
[27/12/2014, 6:38:51 PM] Dan Olson: TGWTG was always something of a lark for me. I'm not the best fit for them, both audience wise, schedule wise, and content wise
[27/12/2014, 6:39:05 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Good excuse to leave, then?
[27/12/2014, 6:39:06 PM] Dan Olson: but, hey, I applied and they said yes, so why not
[27/12/2014, 6:39:31 PM] Dan Olson: yeah, and I'm not exactly raking it in, viewership wise, over there
[27/12/2014, 6:39:57 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Y'know, I had never even heard of TGWTG before GG.
[27/12/2014, 6:40:00 PM] Dan Olson: and the new site pretty much tells you where they want to go, brand wise.
[27/12/2014, 6:41:23 PM] Dan Olson: My concern, and I suspect I'll have no trouble selling this to the bosses, is convincing them to just quietly take the heat for a while, and just never really point out that I left.
[27/12/2014, 6:41:52 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Good idea. Same conclusion I came to when GG began hounding my old studio.
[27/12/2014, 6:42:00 PM] Dan Olson: because, and this is my pitch, if they think being spammed with hatemail by GG is bad, being turned into one of their victory totems is worse.
[27/12/2014, 6:42:19 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Quietly leave, and if asked, say that you came to a mutual decision to leave in order to spare them these idiots.
[27/12/2014, 6:42:29 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i had only heard of TGWTG because of charlotte, tbh!
[27/12/2014, 6:42:53 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: that's still depressing they wouldn't have your back. i dunno
[27/12/2014, 6:44:56 PM] Dan Olson: I think they just really have no interest in being remotely controversial.
[27/12/2014, 6:45:37 PM] Dan Olson: which, from a brand perspective, I can gel with. Nickelodeon isn't going to be tackling Gaza, you know
[27/12/2014, 6:46:48 PM] Dan Olson: If they try to throw me under the bus, though
[27/12/2014, 6:46:51 PM] Dan Olson: god help them
[27/12/2014, 6:49:47 PM] Dan Olson: but, yeah, no, I'm not terribly choked one way or another. I haven't been able to keep to a 3/mo schedule anyway, so I'm kinda surprised they haven't poked me about that yet
[27/12/2014, 6:50:03 PM] Dan Olson: though I doubt they've even noticed, due to the terrible backend
[27/12/2014, 6:50:19 PM] Dan Olson: they need to run the site like a magazine or a station, but they don't
[27/12/2014, 6:51:19 PM] Dan Olson: like, have your content creators finish their stuff by Deadline X, then it goes to managing editor who clears it and schedules it in for Day Y
[27/12/2014, 6:51:36 PM] drinternetphd: how else would you run such a thing
[27/12/2014, 6:52:03 PM] Dan Olson: so that creators only have to worry about making their shit, and not trying to deal with jockying for schedule slots on top of that
[27/12/2014, 6:52:04 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: anarchy?
[27/12/2014, 6:52:36 PM] Dan Olson: anarchy, basically
[27/12/2014, 6:52:56 PM] drinternetphd: yikes
[27/12/2014, 6:52:57 PM] Dan Olson: Chez just sort of goes all loosy-goosy, but there's, what, seven of us?
[27/12/2014, 6:53:23 PM] Dan Olson: worst case scenario things line up so that three people put up something new on one day.
[27/12/2014, 6:54:20 PM] Dan Olson: TGWTG has I think 50 contributors at this point, with all different production schedules
[27/12/2014, 6:54:46 PM] Dan Olson: but it's still being run like a communal blog
[27/12/2014, 6:56:59 PM] Dan Olson: and then it's one of those situations where you want to pipe up and be all "hey, why not just rip off what TV's been doing for 70 years?" but you're low man on the totem pole and don't want to be "that shithead"
[27/12/2014, 6:57:43 PM] Dan Olson: 'cus everyone hates That Shithead, who's new to an operation and starts suggesting changes that are basically "do it completely differently"
[27/12/2014, 7:01:28 PM] Dan Olson: In my ideal world I'd have the resources to bring a bunch of web content creators in under an umbrella as proper employees and not just "independent contractors"
[27/12/2014, 7:03:00 PM] Dan Olson: distributed profits, allowing for new stuff to get subsidized instead of this vague "well, we're just sort of a promotional collective, but everyone still needs to worry about their own revenue streams"
[27/12/2014, 7:04:15 PM] Dan Olson: I think Patreon-style direct funding is a good idea, but I spend a lot of time wondering about the weight that it can bear.
[27/12/2014, 7:09:14 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i dunno. there are some youtube education channels pulling in decent money from that kind of stuff
[27/12/2014, 7:09:18 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: enough to hire employees
[27/12/2014, 7:09:48 PM] Dan Olson: oh, it's totally possible
[27/12/2014, 7:10:41 PM] Dan Olson: I just wish I had the resources to set one up, like, now. Or maybe tomorrow. It's kinda late, to the point that I sound like a stoned teenager trying to convince everyone that The Fountainhead is, like, way deep, man.
[27/12/2014, 7:10:51 PM] Dan Olson: So now would be a bad time.
[27/12/2014, 7:11:36 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i just looked at a few. crash course pulls in 25,000$/mo
[27/12/2014, 7:13:39 PM] Dan Olson: i guess to clarify, I'm trying to figure out if 30 people having 30 Patreons would net more productive liquidity versus 1 Patreon for 30 people.
[27/12/2014, 7:14:36 PM] Dan Olson: would someone who's willing to drop 5$ on 3 people be willing to drop 15$ on 1-group-of-3?
[27/12/2014, 7:16:31 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: that's true
[27/12/2014, 7:16:38 PM] Dan Olson: With a collective, like TGWTG, you're also looking somewhat at a self-contained community, and at what point do you hit burnout, where late-adopters get properfucked by community burnout, because they're already spending 5$/mo on half a dozen people?
[27/12/2014, 7:21:09 PM] Dan Olson: The problem I'm foreseeing is one of churn, where the market can never mature because the gap between "poverty/hobby" and "livable income" is too hard for people to consistently jump. Rather than a smooth gradient of quality and return you just have all the online cash being condensed into the singularity known as Pewdiepie and his two orbiting bodies John and Hank Green.
[27/12/2014, 7:21:53 PM] Dan Olson: and then hobbyists who, right as they're getting good at their craft, drop out because it's just not worth the effort that it takes to make something high quality
[27/12/2014, 7:37:24 PM] drinternetphd: hm
[27/12/2014, 7:37:30 PM] drinternetphd: I wonder if there's a service we could make
[27/12/2014, 7:39:05 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: "We" being...?
[27/12/2014, 7:42:26 PM] drinternetphd: idk eventually like
[27/12/2014, 7:42:33 PM] drinternetphd: just whoever is indie and makes shit and needs a patreon alternative
[27/12/2014, 7:42:39 PM] drinternetphd: I am mainly thinking if patreon shits the bed
[28/12/2014, 9:21:58 AM] Dan Olson: goddamn, literally 10% of the last decade of my life has been spent logged in to WoW.
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This was a crowd of people who wanted to enforce their viewpoint and their narrative on everyone else, even though it had about as much basis in fact as Chris' spirit vagina. They successfully got basically every social media platform on the planet to censor discussion of what actually happened through the power of "muh horsemint." Even daring to question the validity of Quinn's claims or god help you, asking for evidence of said claims was treated as condoning harassment, and this shit only stopped because Quinn and her associates were fucking lolcows and had no ability whatsoever to keep their spaghetti in their pockets.
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