Daniel Micay / strcat / strncat / thestinger / GrapheneOS - Schizo software programmer and developer of GrapheneOS Android ROM. Starts drama with everyone and accuses them of harassment. Chronic brigader and bridge burner.

Markass the Worst · May 31, 2023

Daniel Micay / strcat / strncat / thestinger

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(facedox here)

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Daniel Micay is a software developer from Toronto, Ontario

who gets himself in arguments online. Often ranting and screeching, you can tell if a message is written by him based on it insulting the other person:

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Or insinuating they're harassing him:

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Or accusing them of concern trolling:

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As you can see from the above, Daniel Micay used to be the lead developer of something called GrapheneOS. His behavior wasn't limited to his personal account; the GrapheneOS account would often spout the exact same vitriol he does, which is a dead giveaway that it was ran by him.

The Beginning: CopperheadOS, precursor to GrapheneOS

So what is GrapheneOS, and why does Daniel care so much?

GrapheneOS is basically a security and privacy-focused version of Android removed of Google's fuckery. But it used to be something called CopperheadOS, owned by a company named Copperhead Limited, founded by both him and another guy called James Donaldson.

Then in 2018, the two had a schism.

The story gets murky here, full of "he said, he said" and legal battles. And to be clear, I doubt James or Copperhead are fully in the right either.

According to the German news site Golem, it was a dispute over licensing. (archive)

Golem (machine translated) said:
However, Copperhead OS has released its own code under a Creative Commons license that excludes commercial use (CC BY-NC-SA 4.0). The two Copperhead founders are arguing about the licensed code, which complicates further development.

According to Micay, it was because Donaldson hijacked the company. (archive)

GrapheneOS history page said:
In 2018, the company was hijacked by the CEO who attempted to take over the project through coercion, but they were rebuked. They seized the infrastructure and stole the donations, but the project successfully moved on without them and has been fully revived.

Whatever the cause, Daniel left and continued his work on CopperheadOS under the new name GrapheneOS. The two have been slapfighting ever since.

For example, Daniel managed to gain ownership of the r/CopperheadOS subreddit by pestering Reddit admins enough.

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And he frequently posts evidence (or "evidence") of James and Copperhead's attacks against Graphene on r/CopperheadOS.

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In fact, not only is the r/CopperheadOS subreddit icon the icon of GrapheneOS instead, it's also titled "Legacy GrapheneOS community".

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Additionally, Daniel Micay / strcat and another GrapheneOS developer named anupritaisno1 have been caught making edits to the CopperheadOS Wikipedia page with blatant conflicts of interest.

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Although, Daniel did provide one legitimate piece of proof of Copperhead's faggotry: They sent a bogus legal threat to a university student named Renlord Yang, for allegedly using CopperheadOS code.

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(PDF files archived in Appendix C)

While James Donaldson disputes Daniel's accusations (archive) that he handed over signing keys to Raytheon and committed a harassment campaign against him, he has not (as far as I know) disputed that Copperhead sent a legal letter to the university student.

He was also the one that initiated the lawsuit against GrapheneOS (see Appendix C) over copyright infringement. So, fuck him too, I guess.

Nowadays, GrapheneOS is vastly more popular than CopperheadOS, because CopperheadOS is proprietary and requires a paid subscription. Unfortunately, this popularity has only emboldened Daniel Micay in starting autistic Internet slapfights and burning bridges all while thinking he's in the right.

Slapfight with AOSP Alliance, CalyxOS & Nicholas Merrill

GrapheneOS used to be a part of something called the AOSP Alliance, which included other privacy and security-focused Android operating systems, one of which was CalyxOS. Unfortunately, the alliance broke apart due to Daniel Micay.

It started when a YouTube channel named Techlore published review videos on CalyxOS and GrapheneOS. And to help GrapheneOS, he also made an installation guide video for GrapheneOS, which unfortunately was inaccurate and didn't always work.

Micay would end up believing (and still believes to this day) Techlore made the installation guide inaccurate on purpose to sabotage GrapheneOS.

Because of his unfounded belief, on December 11, 2020, Daniel Micay / strcat would barge into the #aospalliance IRC room and accuse the CalyxOS developers of "giving a platform to people to spread misinformation about GrapheneOS".

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A CalyxOS developer, cdesai / Chirayu Desai, fights back and accuses Daniel of harassment.

Then he removes GrapheneOS from the AOSP Alliance.

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Now do you think Daniel would take a second to self-reflect and maybe try to de-escalate the situation? Nope, he continues slapfighting, and doubles down on his belief that Techlore is somehow colluding with CalyxOS to fuck GrapheneOS over.

With the AOSP Alliance now broken, Daniel Micay is free to autistically screech about how Nicholas Merrill (the founder of CalyxOS) is "pushing" "bullying/libel" with the help of "that malicious YouTube influencer looking for drama". No evidence is provided.

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And just in case he wasn't done yet, he demands that Calyx no longer use any of his code, because of some retardation about licenses but it's really just because he hates them:

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Unfortunately for Daniel Micay, not everyone believes him when he accuses the CalyxOS developers of raids and harassment:

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Especially not Nicholas Merrill himself.

And that's the first of many bridges burnt by Daniel Micay. Which leads me to...

The Daniel Micay Cycle

Daniel Micay cannot take any criticism on the Internet and will do whatever it takes to win the argument, up to and including banning the other person. He refuses to let people have wrong opinions on the Internet, especially if they are about him or GrapheneOS.

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It's for these reasons that he can be described as constantly undergoing the Daniel Micay cycle.

The cycle goes like so:

Someone criticizes GrapheneOS or Daniel Micay's behavior, or wrongs him, no matter how minor.
Daniel Micay argues with them, then bans them. If they can't be silenced, he keeps harassing them and/or gets others involved with brigading them or communities they are involved in.
The victim might document this behavior somewhere for posterity.
If anyone agrees with the victim, even the smallest bit, they are marked as a new enemy that must be taken care of.
Repeat from Step 1.

After the Calyx incident, this has happened with the following chain in order: Seth Simmons, Techlore, and Louis Rossmann.

In short, Seth Simmons made a blog post about Daniel Micay and the GrapheneOS community personally attacking him. Techlore made a video covering that, among other things Daniel has done. Louis Rossmann made a comment on Techlore's video - "This is informative, and unfortunate" - prompting him to get the same treatment from Micay, eventually resulting in Rossmann's own video about Daniel Micay and GrapheneOS.

Seth Simmons

Seth Simmons is just some random guy who has some reputation in the Monero community.

He's a privacy-conscious person, so one day he decided to switch to using CopperheadOS.

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Unfortunately, this was a very serious transgression in the eyes of Daniel Micay, and the GrapheneOS community. He was almost immediately reply-spammed about how bad CopperheadOS is, like this tweet from anupritaisno1 / GlassROM, a GrapheneOS developer:

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And then, they DMed someone else in the Monero community to slander Seth's reputation. Totally normal and not cow-ish behavior:

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Simmons also talks about how he kept getting harassed by sockpuppets:

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Daniel Micay goes full DARVO and says "ackshually YOU'RE the one harassing and spreading misinformation":

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This all culminates in Seth Simmons' own blog post documenting the retardation and spergery he endured.

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And wouldn't you know who appears in it? Nobody else but anupritaisno1, a GrapheneOS developer, telling people to create accounts to refute James Donaldson's horrible transgression of talking to Jack Dorsey about CopperheadOS.

(linked tweet, archive)

And that's another bridge burnt by Daniel Micay.

Techlore / Henry Fisher

Techlore is a YouTube channel about technology ran by a guy named Henry Fisher.

As already covered with the CalyxOS slapfight, Techlore made video reviews of CalyxOS and GrapheneOS, and mistakenly made a GrapheneOS installation guide that was inaccurate. Daniel Micay would forever hate them because of it.

Eventually, Techlore could not stand by and watch as Daniel continued to sperg, and decided to make a video about it.

(ghostarchive, Invidious archive)

You can look in Appendix A for my notes on the video. But in summary, Techlore goes over how Daniel Micay split from Copperhead, and started slapfights with CalyxOS / Nicholas Merrill, got kicked out of the AOSP Alliance, and Seth Simmons' blog post. Then he fully fesses up to the mistake (his installation guide is now unlisted) and reveals that he tried to help Daniel (by offering to be mod or debunk the "misinformation" Daniel keeps complaining about), but was rejected.

It's that last part that Daniel uses against them. He still believes to this day that the only reason they made that video is because they were "upset" they didn't get to be a moderator, when if you watch the rest of the video, it's clearly far from the case and there are other, less petty reasons for making the video.

Some retard named Tom Spark also didn't watch the entirety of the video and completely sucked Micay's dick, making his own video on why ackshually, Techlore is in the wrong here:

(ghostarchive, Invidious archive)

Notes on Tom Spark's video are in Appendix B.

Meanwhile, Daniel Micay was seething enough to report their accounts and get them banned off of Twitter:

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As you can see, Henry Fisher's personal Twitter account was suspended:

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And Daniel Micay gloats in a now-deleted tweet:

But it's not enough for Micay. Even if his YouTube account was banned, it "would not be anywhere close to the level of what we have had to go through because of what he has been doing to harm us with underhanded attacks."

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And that's another bridge burnt by Daniel Micay.

But wait! It's not over yet. A Macbook repair guy would make a fateful comment on Techlore's video:

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Which brings me to...

Louis Rossmann

Louis Rossmann is a Macbook repair guy. He's even /ourguy/ (@larossmann).

As part of his right-to-repair advocacy, he joined FUTO, which gives out grants. (archive) In 2022, he gave a $40k grant to both CalyxOS and GrapheneOS, for both being operating systems that stood up to Google's faggotry.

Part of the FUTO grants program involves an interview with Louis Rossmann, which Nicholas Merrill of CalyxOS was kind enough to accept.

(Invidious archive)

But Daniel Micay of GrapheneOS... didn't.

Why? Well, in some now-published emails between Micay and Rossmann, it's because of his long-standing grudge against evil bad harassment factory CalyxOS and that dirty dang rotten Nick Merrill. Why does he get to get $40k too?!?

Daniel Micay said:
Right now, you've gotten a $40k USD donation for GrapheneOS but you've also gotten the same amount for a group that's misleading people and is engaged in very hostile underhanded attacks on us. You're increasingly spreading their talking points and attacking us.

Daniel Micay said:
Perhaps I'll simply spend the $40k hiring people to debunk the continued misinformation about GrapheneOS which is the main thing holding us back from success. Would certainly save a lot of time for the developers not having to deal with it.

(source: 20220905-Re_CalyxOS-4.pdf)

Daniel Micay said:
There are many worthy projects not engaging in scamming / harming people which you could have supported instead of CalyxOS. It's simply not going to be compatible with working with us.

(source: 20220905-Re_CalyxOS-8.pdf)

Louis is like "bro, WTF, this is retarded but you can do whatever":

Louis Rossmann said:
We are not involved in a disinformation smear campaign against you. As long as you believe this, it will hold you back from achieving your full potential.

Louis Rossmann said:
In my opinion, the "threat" of using the entirety of the donation to argue with people is passive aggressive, manipulative, unhealthy, and wasteful. We want to see your project succeed; if you choose to use those resources to take actions that, IMO, are wasteful, and akin to shooting yourself in the foot, that is your right.
That's what no strings attached means. But that's where I give up.

(source: 20220905-Re_CalyxOS-10819.pdf)

But trying to reason with Daniel Micay is like trying to reason with a childish manbaby. It wasn't going to work, and indeed, it didn't work. He started writing walls of text sperging about, among other things, Kiwi Farms:

Daniel Micay said:
Here are 2 recent threads I posted about Cloudflare supporting Kiwi Farms:

https://twitter.com/DanielMicay/status/1565109706179354624

2k retweets, 10k likes, 1 million impressions

https://twitter.com/DanielMicay/status/1565791901747380228 is another less widely spread one.

Why was I posting about that? These are some of the people who have engaged in harassment towards my friends, and my project. Why were they doing that?

Daniel Micay said:
Kiwi Farms even got banned by a Russian DDoS provider known for hosting criminal content after they were banned by Cloudflare. CalyxOS still welcomes them.

Daniel Micay said:
FUTO seems to strongly believe in providing hosting, etc. to content like Kiwi Farms. I consider that a problem.

(archive of tweet 1, archive of tweet 2)
(source: 20220906-Re_CalyxOS-10820.pdf)

Like Techlore, Louis counters with an offer to go on his channel to debunk all the misinformation Daniel keeps complaining about.

Louis Rossmann said:
No, there's no coordinated attack on you here.

I've offered you several chances to do a full length interview, where you can express whatever you want to express, in a format of your choosing, on a YouTube channel with 1.7 million subscribers. This isn't what people who want to harm you do. This is what people who want your work to be known, seen, and donated to by as many people as possible do. If we've ever said something you believe is incorrect, this is your opportunity to tell the world.

You can choose to accept one or two things.

1) it's the rest of the world
2) it's me

The hit piece you're referring to is mostly showing logs of your own chats in public rooms. That isn't a bit piece. It's a documentary. One that, unfortunately, doesn't seem to have resulted in any self reflection.

As I said. I wish you the best of luck with this project. But there's not much more involvement I can have here anymore. These discussions are too unhealthy.

(source: 20220906-Re_CalyxOS-10820.pdf)

And just like Techlore, Daniel refused. He doesn't trust him because of his grant to CalyxOS!

Daniel Micay said:
You're openly expressing support for a libel, harassment and bullying campaign targeting me. You're publicly spreading misinformation about GrapheneOS based on inaccurate talking points from CalyxOS.

Daniel Micay said:
I can't allow any of our project members to do an interview with someone that's endorsing the blatantly fabricated propaganda that has been spread about us. It could have happened but for some reason you've turned it all into this now.

(source: 20220906-Re_CalyxOS-10820.pdf)

Louis tells him to fuck off and to get help.

Louis Rossmann said:
I'm blocking your email at this point. Nothing good will come of these conversations. I would kindly ask that you go about your business and leave me out of it entirely. And please, seek help.

(source: 20220906-Re_CalyxOS-10820.pdf)

Louis naively tried to reason with Daniel less than a month later. It didn't work, because reasoning with Daniel Micay never works and is a pointless endeavor; Micay just responded with his horrible YouTube comment on Techlore's video.

Louis Rossmann said:
Our last exchange didn't go well. I'd like to try starting fresh; how would you feel about doing an interview, with you, or someone you trust, to speak for the project on your behalf? I want more people to know about this project and the benefits it provides the world.

(source: 20220919-An olive branch-10970.pdf)

Daniel Micay said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx7CZ-2Bajg&lc=Ugx9mbtMpywvDLuk0Il4AaABAg

Louis Rossmann
1 month ago (edited)
This is informative, and unfortunate

Click to expand...

Anyone else would have been banned for supporting this blatantly fabricated and malicious content.

(source: 20220926-Re_An olive branch-31.pdf)

By the way, as far as I can tell, nothing in that video is fabricated. So I'm not sure why he's saying it's "blatantly fabricated". It's probably because Daniel Micay is full of shit.

The email exchange only happened in September of 2022, and wasn't made public until May of 2023. So what caused Louis to publish the emails?

(source: Element - strcat - Chat Export - 2023-05-25T17-54-19.891Z)

Oh. Well, I'm sure he won't talk about-

(linked tweet, archive)
(source: Element - strcat - Chat Export - 2023-05-25T17-54-19.891Z)

Ok, surely he'll stop sometime-

(source: Element - strcat - Chat Export - 2023-05-25T18-42-31.122Z)

Ok so he'll just keep going and writing walls upon walls of fucking text then. Cool.

Daniel Micay ended up threatening Louis Rossmann with being exposed for being complicit in swatting, all because of his one comment on Techlore's YouTube video. And he just. Kept. Going. He kept writing so much walls of text and pissing him off so much, Louis pulled out the OBS right then and there and started recording him while he was ranting away at his keyboard.

(source: the below YT video)

Which resulted in the following video:

(ghostarchive, Invidious archive)
(local archive of video and emails/chats in my Open Source Community thread post)

Notes on this video are in my post in the Open Source Software Community thread (onion), which is also where you can find a local archive of the video and an archive of the emails and chats Rossmann released.

This is eerily similar to what happened to Techlore.

Techlore was legally threatened by Daniel Micay for making his video.

Rossmann was threatened by Daniel Micay with being banned and having his "harassment" publicly exposed unless he deleted a YouTube comment.
Techlore kept quiet about Micay's shit for months, until he made his video.

Rossmann also kept quiet about the shit he saw in the GrapheneOS Matrix room, until Micay blew up his DMs one last time.
Techlore offered Micay his entire platform to fight misinformation against Copperhead. He didn't respond.

Rossmann also did the same thing (but to fight against Techlore's supposed misinformation), and Micay said no.
Daniel would later go on to essentially say he didn't want to make a video with Techlore about debunking GrapheneOS misinformation because of some petty shit (Techlore's inaccurate installation video).

Daniel also rejected Rossmann's offer to collaborate on a video debunking GrapheneOS misinformation over petty shit too (because Rossmann not only gave $40k to GrapheneOS but also CalyxOS too, and Calyx bad and enemies of Graphene).

Both men got the same playbook Daniel Micay always uses. And ultimately, both men got sick and tired of his bullshit, and resorted to making a video about him.

As a result of Rossmann publishing his video first, Micay announced that he stepped down as the lead developer of GrapheneOS.

Did he "step down" because he gained introspection and realized the disservice he was doing to GrapheneOS, you may ask? No; in fact he says he did it because he was "unable to handle the escalating level of harassment against him".

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The GrapheneOS Twitter account would announce the same.

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What is the harassment, you may ask? We are never given details. All he says is just that the "harassment keeps ramping up":

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In fact he thinks Louis Rossmann is out to get him, when the reality couldn't be further from the truth and he just wants Daniel Micay to leave him the fuck alone:

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And he claims that Louis Rossmann is "spreading misrepresentations of what happened". Yes, literal fucking chatlogs are "misrepresentations" according to Daniel.

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And he says what Louis did wasn't justifiable!

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Tom Spark made yet another video coming to the rescue and sucking Micay's dick. Just like the other video, notes on this one are in Appendix B.

(ghostarchive, Invidious archive)

Now you might question whether or not he really did step down. Note the careful phrasing: The word "lead" is always used, so it could mean that he stepped down as lead developer, not as developer.

Indeed, many people believed that Micay was gone, to the point that the GrapheneOS account issued a statement that he merely "stepped away from public roles", is still a developer, and that the announcement was heavily "misrepresented".

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Either way, it doesn't matter. The GrapheneOS account still repeats many of his lies and allegations of others causing them harassment. Even if they intended to claim he fully stepped down, he still retains significant influence over the project.

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One of their more egregious lies is constantly referring to Louis Rossmann as a "YouTuber closely involved with Kiwi Farms" just for having an account here, even though he only posts in his own thread and does nothing else, which is not even close to being "closely involved".

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So just to be clear: Daniel Micay is still working on GrapheneOS, no matter which way you slice it.

And that's another bridge burnt by Daniel Micay.

Daniel vs. the World

It doesn't matter who you are. Daniel will have a bone to pick with you. Here are various miscellaneous projects and people that have had the misfortune of dealing with Daniel Micay.

Bromite

Bromite is a Chromium fork with support for ad blocking and enhanced privacy.

On June 3, 2022, chirayudesai, a developer of CalyxOS, made a pull request to Bromite.

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This is just normal, boring technical nerd shit, right? Wrong. Think again, it's the perfect opportunity for Daniel Micay / thestinger to sperg out about Chirayu being a bad no good dirty rotten CalyxOS developer who's stealing muh code:

He just keeps writing walls and walls of text as usual. He ends up sperging about neo-nazis, racism, anti-semitism and fascism for some reason:

The slapfight drags on, until csagan5 closes and locks it because of Daniel's bullshit.

So that's the end of it, right? HAHA no. Daniel opens an issue demanding that code from GrapheneOS and Vanadium (GrapheneOS' web browser) be removed, OR ELSE:

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csagan5 bans him from the repository and tells him to fuck off, like many who have dealt with Micay.

The GrapheneOS Twitter account doubles down on acting like a whiny fucking bitch, and - oh SHIT, they're gonna get JOURNALISTS involved!

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Dear Feeder Null weighs in on this retardation and agrees that Daniel Micay is retarded. (onion)

F-Droid

F-Droid is a free and open source Android app repository.

So this merge request to F-Droid was opened on July 11, 2022:

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Daniel Micay / thestinger decides to give his two cents. It's a wall of text, but at least it's not yelling or insulting, just technical talk:

Oh, I spoke too soon. He starts attacking some developer named TheLastProject:

Who responds with essentially, "what the fuck is your problem, fuck off nigger":

They keep slapfighting, and eventually a janny comes in to delete posts and locks the thread to tell Daniel Micay to fuck off once more:

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As usual, Daniel takes to Twitter to express how wrong it is his autistic and inappropriate outburst was silenced by those dang dastardly F-Droid developers. The icing on the cake is that he is the one who archived it, believing that his conduct would be seen as acceptable. It is a very long thread because this dude can't seem to stop writing walls and fucking walls of text.

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And that's many bridges burnt by Daniel Micay.

Daniel and the Kiwi Farms

Despite not having had a thread until now, and despite not ever being mentioned negatively on the farms until the Louis Rossmann saga, like any lolcow featured here Daniel Micay seems profoundly paranoid of our fine fruit growing forum.

I already covered how he, unprompted, sperged out about Kiwi Farms to Louis Rossmann, but he genuinely seems to think we're some sort of harassment factory coordinating raids against him.

For example, he seems to think that Calyx Institute developers post on Kiwi Farms:

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Not only is Calyx involved, but F-Droid and the Guardian Project supports Kiwi Farms:

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How dare Calyx not ban the Kiwi Farms server!

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Kiwi Farms is a harassment and doxing site (he misspells it as "doxxing") targeting autistic people!

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Kiwi Farms has "openly engaged in extreme doxxing/harassment/libel campaigns for years" and have "previously pushed multiple people to kill themselves". Would love to see him provide any fucking proof of that:

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He hates some guy named Alec Muffett because he "liked tweets from Kiwi Farms members":

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At least he got it right that Cloudflare dropped us because they gave in to the pressure campaign (orchestrated by Lucas "Keffals" Roberts, Elliot "Liz" Fong-Jones, and other insane trannies). Though I would dispute that it was because we were "bad for business":

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But here's the best and most blatant lie at all: Kiwi Farms isn't protected by Section 230!

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Well, you have your thread now, Daniel. So let me reiterate:

Most of this OP consists of your own words.
None of them are fabricated, they all have archives proving that you said them.
They are all properly sourced, so anyone can look at the context, on the off chance it makes you look any better.
There are rules on this site against harassment. We do not harass. We do not cow-tip.
No one with a thread here has ever killed themselves because of us. Julie Terryberry did it because of her boyfriend. Chloe Sagal did it because he was ostracized from the trans community. And Byuu ~~didn't kill himself and is alive~~ killed himself because of his mental illnesses, social isolation and living in a foreign country that was hostile to foreigners.
No one is out to get you. They're just sick of your shit. We, however, find it funny and will laugh at you. That's all we do here.

Conclusion

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Daniel Micay is an Internet Tough Guy who refuses to admit he could ever be in the wrong. He constantly accuses others of harassment and raiding, which he not only encourages but actively supports himself. He is an asshole to everyone and then wonders why everyone is an asshole to him.

I know for a fact that Daniel will read this thread, so here's my message to him. It's rather optimistic, but I might as well try:

Daniel Micay, if you're reading this, you are the problem, not everyone else. You are constantly undergoing a self-fulfilling prophecy, where by thinking that everyone is an asshole, you end up being an asshole to them and then they're an asshole back to you. If you want all this "harassment" to stop, you need to take a deep look in the mirror and reflect on your actions.

But I know for a fact that that will never happen. Enjoy your thread!

List of enemies of GrapheneOS

Daniel Micay most likely keeps a list of all his enemies, and even the click of a "Like" button can get you on it. Avoid the following people, and don't even "Like" their stuff, unless you want to be (accused of) harassing and swatting GrapheneOS, stalker child:

(in rough chronological order)
- James Donaldson / CopperheadOS
- Techlore / Henry Fisher
- Google / YouTube
- Tom Ritter (Mozilla / Tor Project)
- CalyxOS / Calyx Institute

- Nicholas Merrill
- Chirayu Desai

- Monero Community

- Seth Simmons / Seth For Privacy
- MikeCustomTech
- maxtannahill

- F-Droid

- TheLastProject

- Matija Nalis / mnalis

- Bromite

- csagan5 / Carl

- /e/OS / Murena / Gael Duval
- Kiwi Farms
- Louis Rossmann / Rossmann Repair Group / FUTO
- Curtis Yarvin / Mencius Moldbug
- PrivacyGuides

- Jonah Aragon
- Daniel Gray

- Karl Emil Nikka / Nikka Systems
- Matt Hamilton / No Agenda Show
- Chris Price
- Purism
- Rob Braxman (scammer)
- Mozilla / Firefox
- Cromite (fork of Bromite)
- Private Phone Shop, LLC
- microG / Marvin Wißfeld
- Fairphone
- Aurora Store
- LineageOS
- BeaconDB / Libre Geolocation
- Matthew Hickey / hackerfantastic / Hacker House
- postmarketOS

- Clayton / craftyguy

Former enemies of GrapheneOS

There are a lucky few who were once declared enemies of GrapheneOS, but no longer are, often by deleting criticism of Daniel Micay. You are free to interact with these former enemies, but be careful:
- FlorisBoard

Not quite enemies... yet

These few have not yet been accused of doxing, harassment or swatting, but they have been accused of making false or misleading claims about GrapheneOS. Make of them what you will, but if I were you, I'd ignore them to stay on Daniel Micay's good side:
- Kicksecure / Whonix
- Mullvad VPN

Should I use GrapheneOS?

Do whatever the fuck you want. I don't care if you use, support, contribute or donate to GrapheneOS.

I say this for the following reasons:

1. Daniel Micay, for all his faults, has never compromised the security of his OS to further a personal grudge. If he did, it would be noticed and the news would spread quickly.

2. I'm taking the moral high ground. I have criticized Micay for flying off the handle at a $40k donation to his competitor CalyxOS. If I said you shouldn't donate to GrapheneOS, that would make me a hypocrite, and unlike Micay I don't like to have double standards.

This private information is unavailable to guests due to policies enforced by third-parties.

Thanks to "nickcalyx" on Doxbin, if that's really Nick Merrill of the Calyx Institute.

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Markass the Worst · May 31, 2023

APPENDIX A: Notes on Techlore's video

These are the notes I took while watching Techlore's video, for people who want to read/skim instead of watch. Unfortunately, it's almost one hour long and very dense of Daniel Micay's lunacy. I had to condense it for the OP, but if you want more laughs, you can read my notes and screenshots.

Fair warning though, it's still very long and there are pages and pages of notes.

(ghostarchive, Invidious archive)
(local archive is in OP)

(0:16) Techlore (Henry Fisher) says the main developer of GrapheneOS (that's Daniel Micay) threatened him legally for making this video.
(0:30) Goes over what GrapheneOS is and how Techlore has recommended it numerous times in the past.
(1:14) Video disclaimers:
- This video is entirely of Techlore's own doing with no collaboration with anyone else.
- None of the victims of harassment played any role in making this video.
- Nothing in this video discusses technical debates, only the toxicity of a community and its leadership.
(2:11) The story starts with Copperhead and its CopperheadOS. Daniel Micay split from Copperhead to create GrapheneOS, but still owns 50% of Copperhead. The other owner, James Donaldson, owns the other 50%, and the two have been slapfighting over ownership of the company since.
(2:57) Techlore shows a slapfight between Daniel and James when Jack Dorsey tweeted a link to GrapheneOS:
- And Daniel (strcat) talking about it on Matrix:
  
  The text that is cut off is "...by someone very openly trying to manipulate them."
(3:37) Henry covers how Daniel constantly accuses James and the Copperhead community of raiding the Graphene community.

Techlore says he has not seen undeniable proof of this.
(4:14) Shows a screenshot of Daniel Micay talking about a lawsuit he is in with James and Copperhead even though he shouldn't do that.
(4:47) Daniel talks about making five Reddit posts "exposing" Copperhead's wrongdoing.
(4:50) Daniel accuses James of being a con artist. Also includes a clip of someone throwing his garbage off his old condo's balcony for some reason?
(5:04) Daniel attacks Copperhead by saying "Imagine treating this as a serious company."
(5:07) Daniel posts some deleted tweets of James that are supposedly self-incriminating of him tracking users, Techlore is not convinced.
(5:38) Techlore asks why, if Daniel and James both own 50% of Copperhead, one doesn't just resolve the situation by leaving the company to the other. I'm wondering too.
- He shows screenshots of Daniel yelling at someone on Twitter whose sole crime was asking simple, genuine questions about who owns the code.
(7:27) Daniel wants James to be arrested "for his criminal activities".
(7:55) Daniel wants James to sell him his shares of the company. Techlore points out Daniel could do the exact same thing.
(8:35) Techlore shows James' defense, claiming that no, Daniel doesn't own the code he authored, Copperhead does.
(9:18) Techlore points out that while Daniel says Copperhead slanders him, he also slanders Copperhead right back.
(9:49) Daniel Micay owns the r/CopperheadOS subreddit, and posts anti-Copperhead stuff on there, because he owns it.
(10:07) Daniel wants Copperhead's Twitter account too. He actually got Reddit to hand over ownership of r/CopperheadOS to him.
(10:18) Techlore explains he's showing you all this because this sort of drama between Daniel and James has been going on for well over 5 years. Even though he doesn't recommend CopperheadOS because it's paid and not open source. What he talks about later in the video all stems from this drama.
- He also shows this screenshot:
(11:11) Techlore now moves on to Calyx and CalyxOS. He really likes Calyx, supports them monetarily and has never seen drama within the community itself, so it pisses him off to show the following:
- First he shows a screenshot where someone claims Daniel doesn't disparage CalyxOS and Nick (owner of CalyxOS) doesn't disparage GrapheneOS.
(12:14) The claim that Daniel doesn't disparage Calyx is immediately proven false when Techlore shows this screenshot of him pinging everyone in the GrapheneOS Matrix room.
- Not only that, but Techlore says Daniel is telling a blatant lie, as Techlore is in the Calyx rooms and has never seen them do anything bad towards Graphene.
- Daniel also provides no evidence that anyone from Calyx is harassing him.
(13:39) Daniel says Nick participates in insults and bullying. Techlore says this is false.
- Daniel also says the leader of a project reflects on that project. This is in reference to Nick, but it ironically applies very much to him too.
(14:30) Daniel talks about people who "spread misinformation, dishonest attacks" and "support bullying/harassment", but as Techlore points out, he never gives specifics as to what exactly these people did.
(14:36) Daniel talks about making posts on Reddit about the "recent escalation of attacks and misinformation from CalyxOS". According to Techlore, he never did this.
(15:04) Henry shows what he says is a deleted Reddit comment from u/DanielMicay.
- Cut-off portion partially reads "I'm tired of the lies and fake accounts pretending to be GrapheneOS users and being told to"-Techlore doesn't want to read this part-"but this is behavior not only tolerated but promoted and amplified by CalyxOS itself."
- Again, no evidence is given of this.
(15:35) A screenshot of Daniel telling a user who said "Install calyx if u need it" to not "promote or discuss projects making malicious attacks on GrapheneOS developers".
(15:39) For a second or so Techlore also shows this screenshot but doesn't comment on it. It's Daniel (strcat) talking about some guy named Shipp who is allegedly "a persistent 4chan-tier troll".
(15:50) When a user talks about how he was able to get something working on Calyx that didn't work on Graphene, Daniel goes off about how Calyx developers "engage in harassment and slander of our project members", and when the user replies "What", Daniel accuses him of concern trolling.
(16:08) Daniel then goes on to allege that Calyx encourages their users "to raid our channel with concern trolling, get banned and then post about it there to further promote themselves". Techlore again points out he never links to when this happened.
- Techlore says there's nothing to debunk here and you can look in Calyx's rooms and find nothing that shows that they are doing this.
(16:28) Daniel once again accuses Calyx of providing a platform to people to spread misinformation about GrapheneOS.
- Someone asks how he reached that conclusion, to which he further alleges that Calyx provided James Donaldson a platform, with no evidence.
- The same person asks for specifics and where he saw this, and he just says "on a regular basis in their channels and subreddit". Yeah, not very convincing.
(16:58) Another moderator in the GrapheneOS Matrix, anupritaisno1, alleges that Calyx caused harm to some project named Glassrom (that Techlore says no one knows about).
- Techlore once again says this is all just talk and made-up crap.
(17:34) Henry shows the commit of GrapheneOS being removed from something called AOSP Alliance.
- This was made by chirayudesai / cdesai, who is the main developer of CalyxOS according to Techlore.
(18:23) From what I can gather, this happened because of a slapfight between Daniel and Chirayu, apparently going on for weeks, that apparently Daniel started.
(19:22) Chirayu expresses a sentiment that Techlore very much agrees with: He is tired of arguing with Daniel and it's really stressful.
- Daniel says the commit made a misleading personal attack, even though, as Techlore points out, it literally only links to things that Daniel himself said.
(19:32) Slapfighting continued, now they're slapfighting over whether Chirayu or Daniel made some commits. Techlore says you can look it up for yourself and see that Chirayu did it, not Daniel.
(19:49) Henry thanks the Calyx dev for not cracking under Daniel's pressure. Meanwhile, Daniel goes on about how he's regularly having suicidal thoughts:
- Techlore says he needs to get help if that's the case (Chirayu says this too), but that doesn't excuse mistreating others.
Daniel then randomly claims that Techlore "has directed substantial bullying to me".
- Techlore says he has nothing to do with the conversation and is not affiliated with AOSPAlliance.
- He probably knows what Daniel is referring to when he says he "specifically even tried to hurt me based on my depression".
- But Techlore says he doesn't have the time and doesn't care enough to get involved with this person.
- In fact, he left his communities a year ago, because he couldn't handle him.
(21:06) Daniel just keeps going, and now blames Techlore for things starting to go wrong.
- Techlore says: "We're being blamed for something we have no control over."
(21:20) Daniel says Techlore is bullying him.
- Techlore: "Micay, we have never bullied you, bro. Okay? I'm saying that right now. We have never bullied you."
- He'll show us the clips that Daniel thinks is bullying, but really isn't.
(21:44) Nick finally chimes in and asks why Daniel keeps blaming him and Chirayu for what Techlore does or what random commentors on reddit say.
- Micay has messaged Techlore personally over these things as well, and assumes that he's responsible for what random people on the Internet say or do.
Daniel claims Techlore is not some uninvolved third party, something that both Techlore and Nick directly contradict.
- Apparently this is over a review Techlore did of Calyx, even though Nick says he didn't want him to make a review. Nick did go on his channel for an interview though.
(22:48) Techlore says this was the AOSP Alliance, and it was broken by Micay because he didn't want to ever admit that anything could be his fault.
(23:13) Techlore now shows screenshots from Graphene's own community. First up: Daniel Micay (strcat) randomly bans sethsimmons, cdesai and nickcalyx for no reason.
(23:35) Next up: A screenshot of a GrapheneOS developer (anupritaisno1) not only urging people to reply to James' tweet and "explain how CopperheadOS is a scam", but instructing them on how to create fake/sockpuppet Twitter accounts with a virtual phone number too, ASAP.
(24:27) This is someone's Reddit post about how they were banned from r/GrapheneOS for criticizing Daniel Micay.
(24:34) Okay, words alone cannot do justice to this (now-deleted) comment of Daniel Micay calling someone incredibly offensive, illogical, downright manipulative, and causing harm to open source privacy with their bullshit... for having the wrong opinion.
(24:58) Daniel filtered new posts to r/GrapheneOS by default because of "the failure of community self-moderation".
(25:07) Daniel yelling at someone saying "your uninformed rant was not welcome or helpful". As Techlore says, he's talking with them like they just killed his dog, but this is just how he acts over technical debates.
(25:22) Daniel refusing to take responsibility for the failures of his community.
(25:38) Someone's post asking why GrapheneOS supports few devices triggered Micay, deleting his post and going on a rant about them "trying to spread misinformation / FUD" and "promoting scam products".
(25:59) Daniel made a post saying to stop reposting his statements elsewhere "without context" and says it is a bannable offense.
(26:24) Techlore shows another example of the GrapheneOS community never taking responsibility, and never taking criticism. A person named "Lia", who he says is active in the Matrix room, says it's the app devs' fault if an app does not launch due to GrapheneOS' hardening.
(27:23) A screenshot of someone saying they got banned by Micay from the GrapheneOS Matrix for talking about the speed differences between Graphene and Calyx.
(27:32) Someone asking a very valid question "Why try to make a phone secure?" on r/GrapheneOS is told by Micay that they are "rude and insulting" and "questioning the work that I do for a living."
(27:44) Daniel Micay ranting at someone for questioning why he says having a GrapheneOS subreddit is harmful to the project.
(28:29) Daniel Micay blowing up at someone who, presumably, asked about GrapheneOS support for the Linux-based Pine phone.
(28:35) When someone left the GrapheneOS Matrix and explained why (presumably Daniel told him that being unintentionally confused is equivalent to spreading misinformation), Daniel said "1 less concern troll" and didn't care one bit.
(28:50) Daniel Micay arguing with someone on r/privacytoolsIO over being banned from r/GrapheneOS. He says "The list of people that have been banned from our IRC channel, Matrix room and subreddit is not long", which is very doubtful. And "no one has been banned for criticizing the project", even more doubtful.
(29:27) Oh would you look at that, it's strcat banning someone for criticizing the project's complex install instructions, accusing him of "concern trolling" and "looking to start drama".
(30:03) Techlore stresses that this retardation not only affects other people, but also impacts the GrapheneOS project itself.
- As Daniel Micay says himself: "The leader of a project reflects on the project."
- Micay constantly calls people trolls, spreading misinformation and interprets any criticism of the project as an attack on the project itself. People are banned for doing nothing besides asking questions, it is a completely toxic community.
(30:34) Now Techlore covers who Seth Simmons is. He was someone who made a blog post going over how Daniel Micay and GrapheneOS personally attacked him.
- Techlore thanks him for doing so, because he personally has been quiet for months now about it. He thought it would take care of itself, and the reality is, it's only gotten worse.
(31:33) Seth began to be harassed by members of the GrapheneOS community for the crime of talking positively about CopperheadOS.
- Seth is involved heavily in the Monero community, so they began messaging members of the Monero community directly, attempting toundermine his reputation and contributions.
(31:55) Seth also criticizes CopperheadOS' behavior in the ongoing legal drama. So he's not just a Copperhead shill.
(32:02) As expected, Daniel started slapfighting with Seth on Twitter. Accusing him of working with Copperhead, even though he doesn't.
(33:03) Henry tells his own story now.
- The Techlore channel made a GrapheneOS review, completely on their own terms.
- He asked Daniel Micay how he could best help the project, and he responded "I don't have time to get to that."
- Techlore made their own section since Daniel's answer was lackluster. They made an installation guide, completely on their own terms.
(34:04) Unfortunately, he recommended shortcuts that led people not being able to install the ROM successfully.
- He fully admits to messing up, and just added disclaimers to tell people to use the official guide instead.
- Unlike Micay, he doesn't think the bad installation guide leads to bricked devices (he shows this accusation later).
(34:38) Techlore says he was accused of leaving the video up out of spite.
- He explains that no, it was because he asked his audience about it, who were themselves unsure if he should have kept it up or not.
(35:12) Graphene is constantly dealing with Copperhead. It's a legal battle where it's unclear who is in the right or wrong. Micay always complains about people from Copperhead supposedly spreading misinformation.
- He asked Micay if he wanted to come onto the channel to debunk the misinformation that all these dang Copperhead people are spreading. It would be completely unedited and Micay would have full control over the output. He didn't respond.
- He offered to be a mod for Graphene (under a completely anonymous pseudonym), because he kept complaining about not having enough mods and having to shut down his communities as a result. He didn't respond.
(36:41) Techlore goes on to make their CalyxOS review, which was well-received.
- They made a meme edit about how Calyx gives you a more usable phone than Graphene does.
- Micay claimed that this was poking fun at his depression and mental health problems, which was never the intent, and was never even mentioned ever.
(37:33) The last thing Techlore did was make a video comparing Calyx and Graphene. The conclusion recommends Graphene ("if you're on the fence, try Graphene first, its restrictions might not even impact you").
- The point is, Techlore has never slandered Graphene in any way like Micay claims. You can compare all the messages of Techlore and Daniel Micay and see which one is worse.
- And again, Micay refused all the help Henry offered, then turns around and claims Techlore is malicious and out to get him.
(39:07) Here's Daniel Micay alleging that Techlore's install video leads to bricked devices (which he disputes).
(39:23) Daniel Micay complains about Techlore on Twitter.
- He claims he misrepresents it as his personal pet project, even though he never did that. (This is probably referring to the meme edit though, see later.)
- He claims he never talks about the privacy benefits of hardening and only about the performance costs, even though he does talk about the privacy benefits and in fact recommends people try Graphene first.
- He claims he created hostility towards GrapheneOS by supporting abuse and regular raids of Graphene's channel, even though he literally hasn't and also explicitly discourages people from doing so, though what others do is ultimately out of his control.
(41:22) Then Daniel says Copperhead has used Techlore's content as attacks on GrapheneOS.
- Henry once again reiterates that he's not responsible for what other people do and to take it up with Copperhead.
(41:59) Henry states he has not responded to Micay because of his toxic behavior. Henry offered him all the help he could and Micay refused all of it.
(42:35) Daniel complains about the segment in Techlore's video dedicated to ridiculing it as his pet project. Henry rolls the meme edit clip and clarifies that the intent wasn't to ridicule it as his pet project, it was just to talk about how Graphene can be legitimately less usable in some cases.
(43:41) The GrapheneOS Twitter account once again claims that Techlore's video has directed harassment towards Daniel Micay. Henry once again asks for any evidence of this. None is provided.
(44:39) Henry goes over how neither GrapheneOS nor Daniel Micay have ever reached out and offered a truce or anything. He says Techlore has been mistreated and been nothing but fair to the project. He is very insulted that he thinks they're out to get him.
(45:19) Just a few screenshots of Micay claiming Techlore is malicious towards the project, wants people's devices bricked, and directs harassment towards Micay.
(45:41) In fact, not only has Techlore never attacked Micay's depression, he had this to say about his mental health:
(45:45) And more whining about Techlore that's completely false.
(46:10) Some more screenshots of Micay and GrapheneOS' tweets complaining about stuff.
- GrapheneOS account complains about an exploit in Matrix allowing people to impersonate others, which apparently has been done with strcat.
- Daniel Micay complains about PayPal in India.
(46:38) Daniel slapfights with a rando on Twitter about Seth.
(47:04) Daniel complains about a study comparing iOS and Android security and accuses the authors of being biased. Henry does not think they are biased.
(47:13) Daniel complains about Signal blocking him on Twitter when he pointed out an issue. Most likely he was blocked for being an asshole. Bonus mention of known lolcow Naomi Wu (onion) whose social media is puppeted by Timaz.
(47:23) Whining about Namecheap.
(47:31) Whining about LinkedIn and whining at GoDaddy. He threatens GoDaddy with using the official GrapheneOS account to whine about them.
(48:05) Daniel accuses Mozilla of doing, very ironically, exactly what he does himself: "Repeatedly making false claims, misrepresenting criticism/suggestions and responding with a holier-than-thou attitude, platitudes and fallacies. Bad look." Textbook example of the pot calling the kettle black.
(48:42) Daniel (through the GrapheneOS account) gets in a slapfight about the Librem 5 phone.
(48:59) He does the same thing with the Pine64.
(49:16) He accuses some rando of having a personal grudge against GrapheneOS.
(49:19) He insults the Linux kernel.
(49:25) There is way too much of this crap to go through, so Henry just starts quickly scrolling through each one. Even I am getting tired of Daniel's shit, so I'm not going to screencap all of them. You can look for yourself if you want. It's just Daniel being a jerk and starting shit with strangers on the Internet.
(50:12) Almost near the end now. Henry reiterates that this is simply who Daniel Micay is, none of this is a private message and is all public, and these are his words. And repeats Daniel's own message: The leadership reflects the project. If the leader of GrapheneOS is this asshole who constantly gets into drama and online slapfights, what does that say about GrapheneOS?
(50:41) Conclusion now. The whole video speaks for itself. Henry makes sure to talk about how Daniel's leadership enables the community members of GrapheneOS to do the same thing as he does, including raiding other communities like Techlore's.
(51:24) Henry clarifies once again that this video isn't anything personal against Daniel Micay, which Micay will probably still say anyway. If Nicholas Merrill, the owner of Calyx, acted like this, Techlore would make a video about him instead. Same for if Edward Snowden acted like this. But this is simply how Daniel acts.
- Ironically enough, apparently Edward Snowden and the EFF are funding his legal fees, so they are helping enable him to act like a total asshole online.
(52:15) Henry agrees with Seth Simmons - Graphene may be a technically sound project but it's hard to recommend it without massive disclaimers about the leadership of the project. Henry tells the people in the community to hold their leadership to higher standards (yeah, like that's ever going to happen).
(53:06) Henry says he's been waiting months to get this off his chest and have the balls to publish it, because he's a bit scared of the backlash from Daniel Micay and other GrapheneOS people.

Markass the Worst · May 31, 2023

APPENDIX B: Notes on Tom Spark's videos

Tom Spark is a ballwashing, bootlicking faggot who uncritically sucks Daniel Micay's tiny dick without hesitation. Enough said.

Here are the notes I took while watching his videos, along with debunking his disingenuous faggotry. Friendly reminder to not be mad at the Internet because the kikery you witness in his videos can definitely piss you off.

Notes on Tom Spark's video about Techlore

Tom Spark didn't watch the first 30 minutes of the video, therefore ignoring 99% of Techlore's argument, and concluding that Techlore is the one causing toxicity here instead of Daniel Micay.

Video ID: SjCM8srhTW4
(ghostarchive, Invidious archive)
(local archive is in OP)

(0:35) Tom has clearly previously hit the Dislike button on the video.
(1:04) Tom says the video is confusing because "he says use it, don't use it" and he highlights "Leadership reflects the project" in the description.
- Tom seems to be missing the point here - the video isn't about the project itself, it's about the leadership.
- Techlore clearly says multiple times in the video that GrapheneOS is a good technical project but its leadership sucks.
- He also only included "Leadership reflects the project" in the description because that's just echoing Daniel Micay's own words right back at him.
He says he watched "some bits" of the video. He doesn't say he watched all of it.
(1:30) Tom Spark goes straight to the part of the video where Techlore admits he messed up and made mistakes with his installation video.
- Tom takes Daniel Micay's word that Techlore's video caused bricked devices (which Techlore disputes).
(1:58) Tom then talks about how Techlore talks about "GrapheneOS was having issues with their community" and how he offered to be a mod.
(2:42) Tom says Techlore seems upset that Micay didn't want to make him mod or appear in the channel's videos. Tom then takes Micay's word that this was the "trigger" that started the angst in the community.
- Again, heavily missing the point. Daniel started it by being triggered about Techlore's videos about GrapheneOS. Techlore only mentions he tried to help Micay to clarify that he has no malicious intent towards him, unlike what Micay says.
(3:10) Tom then joins Techlore's Discord server to see if he can find any mentions of himself that are toxic. Because if Techlore is toxic, the toxicity surely must be originating from Techlore and not Daniel Micay.
The examples he finds are all laughable and pale in comparison to the shit that comes out of Daniel Micay's mouth.
(4:42) A moderator says "tom sparks, his reputation is -5000%".
- Tom says "very mean stuff", his tone almost sounds sarcastic but judging by the rest of the examples I think he legitimately thinks this is toxic and he was intending to have a serious tone there.
Someone says Tom Spark "proved again he knows nothing about privacy and security. and shilled himself to the top", and a moderator responds "yeah, absolutely rediculus lmao".
- Tom says "someone in charge of this community is being toxic towards me." Uhh... no.
(5:46) Tom thinks "Tom Sparks, TorGuard moment" is toxic.
"Tom spark is officially confirmed to be a shill now thanks to this video." Oh shit guys, I'm horrified, he just called him a shill!
Tom just keeps going on and on. If you think he would find anything that rises to the level of Daniel Micay's vitriol, think again. It's just people disliking him because he doesn't like Brave, or made a video about ProtonVPN, or whatever.
(6:41) Tom says that if Techlore has been able to be harassing him for 3 years (shut the fuck up faggot, talking shit about you is not harassment) then it's possible for them to have been "harassing" other creators and communities like Graphene too (yes if your definition of harassment is being a thin-skinned bitch unable to take criticism).
(7:02) "I think it's pretty likely that a lot of their members have harassed Graphene."
- Oh but wait, it gets better. "Maybe Techlore himself hasn't directly done it, but it's entirely possible behind the scenes he has encouraged."
- I see Tom Spark is borrowing Daniel Micay's practice of asserting random shit without evidence.
- "That's just my speculation but it does seem very likely." Based on what fucking evidence?!
(7:24) Tom then goes over what Daniel Micay has to say about Techlore.
Daniel says "The YouTube influencer you're talking about has spent months trying to create drama and direct harassment towards me."
- Presumably he's referring to Techlore's comment that he was waiting to get this off his chest for months, which is a very fucked up way of twisting his words.
- In any case, Tom believes it because he thinks Techlore's Discord members disliking him is "harassment".
Daniel continues "They hold a massive grudge against me for not making them a moderator in the GrapheneOS community". This ain't it chief.
- Tom says "so I guess Techlore wanted to be a moderator", as if he didn't watch the fucking video.
Daniel claims "They were also upset I wasn't interested in producing content for their channel and promoting it." This is very much not it. They were not upset about that, they were upset at far more than just that, which they only included to show they had no malice towards you.
(8:20) "They expected I would be grateful that they made an inaccurate install video which has led to many users bricking their devices." Tom says "yikes".
- If there's anyone who is holding a grudge, it's Daniel, for refusing to collaborate with them on a video debunking misinformation about himself and GrapheneOS because of petty shit like this.
Daniel's message continues on about how Techlore "started attacking us" and was "wrongly portraying GrapheneOS as simply being my pet project". Again, it was just a joke in a meme edit, and it wasn't even the main point of Techlore's meme edit. But Daniel simply cannot seem to take a joke.
Tom keeps reading the rest of Daniel's message, which is a mistake on his part because Daniel writes walls of text and doesn't know when to shut the fuck up. Thankfully he stops reading before it gets too much.
(9:03) Tom says GrapheneOS has never thanked him for all the promotions he does. Then he literally says "That's fine! 'Cause I don't need it." You can't make this shit up, he's a fucking cuck
- Tom, you wanna know why they never thanked you? It's because, to them, people speaking positively about GrapheneOS isn't an act of kindness, it's what's expected and what they think should be the default norm, and anyone who deviates from this is therefore a huge asshole in their eyes, not just someone with an opinion on the Internet.
He continues, saying he doesn't expect them to "help my community", as if GrapheneOS has more clout than all the YouTubers they hate so much, and therefore would be in a position to "help" them. Then Tom keeps pushing this retarded baseless theory that Techlore started this drama because they felt entitled to GrapheneOS' help or whatever.
- I don't even know where this schizo theory that Techlore "wanted help" from GrapheneOS came from. Somehow the theory that he was butthurt over being denied mod in the GrapheneOS community morphed into this conspiratard nonsense.
(9:22) Tom says that Techlore alleges that Daniel Micay is toxic to Techlore, Seth Simmons, CalyxOS, and other people. This is correct.
But then he says he doesn't think that is true.
His defense starts with "GrapheneOS is an excellent project, probably the most secure Android operating system to date." This is irrelevant and is blatant throating of Daniel Micay's cock.
(9:40) He says that it's nonsense to say that the leader reflects the project.
- So he clearly didn't watch the video. The only reason Techlore ever said that is because Daniel Micay said it to attack Nick Merrill of CalyxOS, and Techlore is just arguing on Daniel Micay's terms.
- By being a lazy bitch and not watching the video, Tom Spark unknowingly demolishes Daniel Micay's argument. Talk about a self-own, LMAO.
(9:53) He then moves on and then says he'll be pointing out bad takes in Techlore's video, starting from near the end of Techlore's video at 45:55.
- What, did you think he would actually give a proper defense of Daniel Micay's toxicity, or watch the first 30 minutes? That's too much for someone who dickrides Daniel Micay every day.
- Also spoiler, he gets way sidetracked first before actually pointing out these bad takes.
- ALSO ALSO spoiler, he never addresses these allegations about Daniel specifically being toxic against Seth Simmons and CalyxOS / Nick Merrill. He goes on about how Techlore bad (so I guess in his mind he deserves the wrath of Daniel), so tell me Tom, what the fuck have Seth and Nick done to deserve their treatment?
(10:20) Tom starts going on about how Daniel Micay has never attacked him and GrapheneOS people are friendly and he's never had any issues with them.
- Yes, because you've never criticized them and you suck their cocks every day, you thickheaded faggot. I guarantee you, criticize them even a little bit and they will start attacking you like no tomorrow.
(10:49) Tom says he might be wrong but Techlore has never admitted to any wrongdoing in the video and has never apologized for being toxic (to GrapheneOS).
- That's because they've never been toxic. We're starting to get into DARVO territory here.
(11:34) Tom Spark found "toxicity against GrapheneOS" on Twitter. It's some retard saying GrapheneOS is a honeypot. But this isn't toxicity, this is just a bad opinion. Daniel Micay and associates always attack bad opinions, nothing ever truly toxic.
(12:00) Tom reads a reply to the schizo Twitter guy saying "None of that is evidence", and he goes off on his own tangent about how this topic of "no evidence" is something he'll be coming back to later in the video? I honestly have no idea what the point of this is or why he put this in the video.
- Well, I watched the rest of the video now, and he does come back to it. You'll see later it's some retardation about how being anonymous means there's no evidence, so therefore... I don't know, he basically implies you should just believe what Daniel says without evidence because you can't expect evidence to exist.
(12:10) And then he gets sidetracked again by looking through the schizo guy's Twitter profile. He doesn't find much.
(12:35) So without any fucking evidence, Tom says this guy might be a Techlore fan. I am not fucking kidding, this is his argument. Some random guy on Twitter is proof that Techlore is causing toxicity and therefore Techlore is toxic because reasons I guess.
(12:55) Don't worry, we have another banger of an argument: Tom says it "just seems weird" to him and goes "GrapheneOS is a mobile operating system, why would you even get involved trying to talk to the guy who makes it", and that you should "just let them do their thing".
- I don't know, Tom, because he starts yelling at you about how you're organizing harassment campaigns against him? Beats me.
(13:07) Tom Spark goes over Techlore pointing out Daniel Micay complaining on Twitter that Element has an exploit that allows one username to look like another, which was done to him (strcat). Tom defends Micay here for almost two minutes.
- This is fine - I personally thought this was the weakest part of Techlore's video - but, you know, come the fuck on, there's still the whole first 30 minutes of video you didn't watch, Tom. There's plenty of examples of Daniel Micay being an asshole for no reason that you just fucking ignored I guess.
(15:09) Tom criticizes Techlore covering Daniel criticizing PayPal in India. Again, I can agree with Tom and Daniel - fuck PayPal, they're jews - but Tom is still conspicuously ignoring the first 30 minutes of the video and being a dumb fucking nigger.
(15:43) Tom says "now you might be saying what's the difference between criticizing GrapheneOS if it's also public as well". I don't know anyone who makes this argument, I can't even understand if this supposed argument is even fucking coherent, but okay, guess what Tom says is the difference?
Tom: "I think we should be a little nicer to GrapheneOS."
Why? Because "it's a non-profit organization" and "it's made for security and privacy" and "there hasn't been a corporate centralization of power and greed", therefore "it should be something we do give a little bit benefit of the doubt".
- Tom still doesn't understand that Techlore's video is about Daniel Micay, and not GrapheneOS. GrapheneOS has nothing to do with it except being a community that Daniel uses to bully others and beclown himself with.
(16:12) He points out there's a difference between criticizing Graphene for security flaws versus saying you shouldn't use Graphene because Daniel Micay is a lunatic attacking others.
- This is correct, but nobody is making the second argument.
- And anyone making the first argument gets attacked viciously by Daniel Micay.
- For the record, you can use GrapheneOS if you want, you can use whatever the fuck you want, I don't care what you use because I'm not Daniel Micay. It's up to you if you want to care about Daniel Micay's behavior or not.
(16:52) More sperging about PayPal, not going to bother summarizing. I think Tom keeps harping on this PayPal point because it's one of the only flaws with Techlore's video and he can't find a way to dismiss the first 30 minutes documenting Daniel Micay's lunacy, so he just conveniently ignores it and laser focuses on PayPal, PayPal, PayPal.
(17:15) Tom goes over the part of the video where Daniel Micay accuses someone of being part of a coordinated attack on him, without proof.
He claims that it's common in the privacy community to go "you have no evidence that I'm trolling you".
He says that if you're in the privacy community, you know how to use a VPN, fake email address, fake phone number, therefore "you're not going to be caught trolling", therefore "stop asking people for evidence that you've been trolling". (He actually means coordinated trolling, not just trolling, but whatever I'll ignore that.)
(18:18) He says if you're an anonymous person on Twitter, there's not really going to be any evidence, therefore Daniel Micay not having evidence doesn't prove anything.
- Okay, so Daniel then shouldn't assert statements like this without evidence. Otherwise it places the burden of proof on the other person instead of him.
- Also Daniel is schizo in general and believes everyone is part of a coordinated attack. This specific example isn't good evidence of that, but better examples are that Daniel believes Techlore is coordinating with Calyx because of the mistaken installation guide, which is complete and obvious nonsense. (And he later believes Louis is coordinating with Techlore because of a YouTube comment, which is even more nonsense.) Therefore I don't trust his judgment on discerning who is coordinating attacks on him and who is just some random retard on the Internet.
(18:29) "And that leads me to a really good point: The only reason I could find evidence of toxicity against my channel is because Techlore mods don't care enough to hide it." THEY ARE NOT BEING FUCKING TOXIC.
He keeps going on about how hard it would be for Daniel Micay to find evidence, but then tops it off with "it's hard to find evidence of who's attacking, but it doesn't take a genius to figure that out in my opinion."
- He really hasn't been speaking clearly this whole video and this is a good example of that. I don't know if he means "it should be obvious that it's hard to find evidence" or "you may have no evidence, but you can still figure out who's attacking you!". If it's the former, speak better, you mush mouthed faggot. If it's the latter, what the fuck, I don't even know what to say to such astronomical levels of retardation like that.
(19:15) Tom: "Like what does he want him to do, does he want Daniel Micay to post his public IP address and dox this guy? He's not gonna do that anyways."
- No, he wants screenshots of this guy coordinating gayops in, say, some basement dwelling Discord server somewhere. And if Daniel doesn't have that, then shut the fuck up about coordinated harassment! This guy (you think) is a troll, it doesn't make it any worse if he's just some random trolling retard on the Internet instead of part of a super secret conspiracy to fuck Daniel Micay and GrapheneOS over.
(19:34) Tom plays Techlore saying that Daniel accuses everybody of being in a harassment campaign without evidence. Tom then repeats his retardation that you shouldn't expect evidence, therefore (I assume) just believe Daniel Micay I guess. But not before revealing that indeed he hasn't watched the full 50 minutes of video! Lazy fucktard, don't speak about things you don't know then.
- Because by everybody, he means people like himself (Techlore) and Nick Merrill, who are not coordinating with each other even though Daniel thinks they are. If he watched the first 30 minutes, Tom would understand this.
- Tom says he didn't have the time to watch the full 50 minutes. But apparently he has time enough to make a video responding to this video?? I don't fucking get it.
(20:11) Tom goes off about how Discord/Element screenshots can be faked, and video and audio can be deepfaked, therefore you can always just say that evidence is manufactured. Uh, this is retarded, plain and simple.
(20:55) Tom keeps going over the weakest part of Techlore's video (covering Daniel's sperging about Signal, LinkedIn, iOS, Namecheap, etc) and he might be right but he's obviously sucking Micay's dick because "Micay created GrapheneOS!" and "Micay knows what he's talking about!" and "Techlore doesn't know what he's talking about".
(23:30) Tom ends it there and says "I don't have time for this, I don't have time to look at all these examples." Nigga, if you watched even the first 5 minutes of the video, you might be like "huh wait, maybe there's something to this". And you obviously have time if you're making a fucking YouTube video yourself.
Tom then says that it's fine for Daniel Micay to criticize all these companies, and they need to be criticized, and it's not toxic because he's not using sockpuppet accounts and he's doing it in public.
(23:54) Tom: "The fact that Techlore can't find 'evidence' of Daniel Micay's toxicity in my opinion actually means it's not that toxic." Watch. The. First. Five. Fucking. Minutes. There's plenty of evidence there.
Tom: "He knows what he's talking about, he's the lead developer of one of the most secure operating systems. Not trying to shill out for this guy, not trying to stand out for this guy." Yeah I'm sure you aren't shilling.
(24:15) Tom: "I just see this video making the rounds, and I see some people even commenting on it, which is kinda sad." Then he points out Louis Rossmann's "This is informative, and unfortunate" comment (foreshadowing!), but does at least give the comment a like.
(24:51) Tom: "Is a developer being outspoken on Twitter, speaking his mind, toxic? I don't really think so. Is him criticizing other public companies for things they do wrong ... is that a bad thing? I don't think so. I think it should be encouraged, like I said I don't really think they're toxic, I don't think they've ever been toxic to me, I interact with him a decent amount on Twitter, no toxicity at all, so honestly guys, if you've come to the end of the video wondering, is GrapheneOS toxic, well, I don't think so. I don't think they're toxic at all."
- This is a master class in painting a skewed narrative by ignoring 99% of what the other person is saying.
(25:27) And then at the end he just implies Techlore is coordinating attacks on him too, why not. Tom: "Techlore, in my opinion, interacting with some of his community in the past, has been very toxic to my community, I've had to shut down a lot of communities, ban a lot of his community members, his mods used to troll my communities back in the day. Of course, is there evidence? No, of course not. We all know how to use VPNs, we all know how to use fake phone numbers, we all know how to make sockpuppets at the end of the day, so there's not really any" - very visible finger quotes - """evidence""".
(25:46) Tom: "But, that said, there is toxicity. But, is it from GrapheneOS? I don't think so." And we have hit full DARVO. Good job Tom Spark, I hope you enjoyed the taste of Daniel Micay's cock in your mouth for 25 minutes straight.

Notes on Tom Spark's video about Louis Rossmann

Tom Spark goes full DARVO, and says that ackshually, Rossmann is the attacker, not the victim, because reasons. And you should always believe Daniel Micay and never doubt anything he says because reasons. Also at the end he engages in a one-sided pissing match against Techlore, bashing him for no apparent reason related to the topic of the video.

Video ID: G6Pj0Z2__SI
(ghostarchive, Invidious archive)
(local archive is in OP)

(0:08) Tom: "This video is actually probably gonna be the unbiased take you wanna see regarding GrapheneOS, the recent drama with Louis Rossmann, and past drama with YouTuber Techlore." Very doubtful. We're off to a good start here.
He goes on to just say he's an outsider, so, I guess this means he's unbiased. (It doesn't.)
(1:00) Tom says the recent controversies around GrapheneOS revolve around Daniel Micay. (Correct so far.)
He's the leader and is very active on social media, which "led to the downfall of all this." (Sounds correct.)
He says Daniel Micay has autism and is pretty high on the spectrum, his social skills are a little bit poor.
- So let me guess: Tom is just going to repeat Daniel's "MUH AUTISM" excuse for acting like a complete and total dickhead to Rossmann (and others).
(1:33) Tom goes off and explains autism and whatever. It's - wait for it - pretty autistic.
(2:10) Tom says everyone is hating on Daniel Micay for being toxic and having poor communication skills. Tom thinks he does have poor communication skills but is not toxic (or at least, "not intentionally").
- Let me revise my guess: He will excuse it with "MUH AUTISM" and "MUH POOR COMMUNICATION SKILLS". For the record, if he's saying what I think he's saying... yeah I don't think the fucking problem is "poor communication skills" here.
(2:26) Tom says Daniel Micay should have hired someone else to hire all this PR stuff.
- I agree with this, except that Daniel Micay is Daniel Micay and would thus never make a good decision like that.
- If he was willing to do that, he would've been willing to go on Techlore's channel to debunk misinformation about GrapheneOS. Or Louis Rossmann's channel to debunk Techlore's (supposed) misinformation.
(2:45) So he's basically making more pre-emptive excuses by going on about how GrapheneOS is a "open source, non-profit company" and they don't have the capabilities like big companies do for PR and Daniel Micay hasn't really made any money from this (no evidence provided), he objectively just provides privacy, so you have to look at him in that lens.
- Okay, fine, sure, I'll use that lens. Let's see, let's look at other open source, non-profit companies without a PR person that objectively just provides privacy, I'm sure their leaders have sperged like Daniel... What's that? They haven't? Huh, weird.
(3:19) He brings up Blizzard making up fake accounts and questions so Diablo 4 devs didn't have to answer hard questions, because I guess just to point out that at least GrapheneOS doesn't do that...? A complete and total non-sequitur.
(3:34) Tom says Daniel is autistic, "may come across as" abrasive, and be challenging to interact with, but he doesn't necessarily hold him accountable for that, he just thinks he should've hired someone else to do the social media stuff.
- He keeps going on about his autism, as if that's the problem. I have this sinking feeling that he's going to miss the point of Rossmann's video too.
(3:50) He says the crux of Rossmann's video "is just talking about that, that's really all there is to it" and the same with Techlore, "they just focus on how Daniel Micay is a super toxic person, he's abrasive" and Daniel Micay burned any bridge that those two people wanted to make.
(4:07) He says initially Techlore and Louis Rossmann wanted to help GrapheneOS, "but were turned away by his abrasive communication style". Yeah, uh, that's definitely a simplification to say the least.
- I have the feeling that not only has he still not watched all off Techlore's video, he hasn't watched all of Rossmann's video either. Both Techlore and Rossmann clearly explain how they offered to get Daniel Micay on their channels to debunk misinformation, but Daniel didn't want to do that. This has nothing to do with being abrasive or poor communication skills, and neither do the rest of Daniel's problems stem from them.
(4:17) He says he doesn't think Techlore or Louis Rossmann should have made their later videos (the ones talking about how much of a shithead Daniel Micay is), because if the guy pisses you off and you don't like him because of his communication style, just move on from the project!
- Missing the point. Heavily.
- To this day, Daniel Micay still spergs on about "Techlore" this and "Louis Rossmann" that. If there's anyone who should move on, it's fucking Daniel Micay. Hell, the Rossmann incident wouldn't have happened in the first place, if Daniel Micay moved on from Rossmann's YouTube comment.
(4:29) He says don't make any more videos and don't intentionally hurt the project after that point, which he believes Louis Rossmann and Techlore did.
- No. This is all Daniel Micay's fault. Louis and Techlore are acting as a more or less reasonable person would have in their position. If anyone is hurting the project, it's Daniel Micay, though perhaps not intentionally.
(4:38) Tom Spark brings up Rossmann saying he doesn't have the intention of hurting the project because he made so many videos about it.
Tom's response? Negativity on the Internet is much more powerful than positivity. And "who's to say how many of these people that liked GrapheneOS are now intentionally gonna go after the project and kind of fuck with it" (???) Why in the fucking hell do you think they want to do that?!
During this, Tom shows several reactions on Reddit to Rossmann's video, which he captions as "toxicity against Graphene" and claims the r/PrivacyGuides is toxic. None of them are toxic in the slightest. No, I'm not making this shit up. I think Tom genuinely believes any negativity or criticism at all is "toxic".
(5:25) Tom: "In the end, if he really wants what's best for GrapheneOS, he would've maybe not made this video." Who the fuck cares what's best for GrapheneOS, that option was thrown out the window when Micay threatened Rossmann with slandering his reputation as someone who supports swatting.
(5:30) Tom points out Rossmann publishing the emails and chatlogs. He says he's read through all of them, and didn't really find anything that concerning.
- He's either lying that he read them all, or he's living in some upside-down land where what's toxic isn't and what isn't toxic is. Spoiler alert, I actually think it's the latter and he did genuinely read the logs, you'll see in a bit.
He says there's a slur in the autistic community called "sperging out" and he shows the neutral definition from Urban Dictionary, and that's just what Daniel was doing. Yes, that's certainly one description of what Daniel did.
- To be clear, the problem isn't that he writes walls of text, the problem is that he writes walls of text attacking people for no good reason and just generally being a nuisance to others. But don't worry, Tom Spark will later excuse all instances of Daniel attacking Louis here.
(5:50) Tom Spark says Micay wasn't threatening this guy or anything like that. Yes, genuinely, he says that bullshit. Again, we'll get to this in a bit.
Tom Spark says it bothers him that people in Rossmann's comments are saying they're autistic and agree that autism is not an excuse to bully people. He says that they're just not understanding the context!
(6:15) Tom Spark says that if you read this conversation here on the screen, Daniel Micay isn't really being toxic. This is the conversation that Tom Spark pulls up on screen. This is the conversation that Tom Spark thinks isn't toxic:

I am going to write it out just to be sure we are living in the same fucking reality.

Daniel Micay said:

you're supported someone who has orchestrated a harassment campaign against me for years which recently escalated to swatting

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Daniel Micay said:

you'll be banned if you don't remove support for Techlore

and there will be information published about your attacks on me in support of an abusive person

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Daniel Micay said:

you chose to attack the project this way

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Daniel Micay said:

you're complicit in the harassment and swatting attacks on me

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So let's get this straight. Tom Spark thinks "you'll be banned if you don't X" and "there will be information published about your attacks" isn't threatening. Tom Spark thinks Daniel Micay saying "you chose to attack the project this way" isn't concerning. And Tom Spark thinks "you're complicit in the harassment and swatting attacks on me" isn't toxic.

Tom really isn't being subtle with how far deep Daniel Micay's dick is down his throat. His penis is reaching through to his fucking stomach now.
Tom: "He's just saying, if you don't want to help us, remove some of this negativity online, we don't really want to be associated with you anymore. That's entirely his prerogative."

NO, THAT IS NOT WHAT HE IS FUCKING SAYING. He's saying, clear as day, Louis Rossmann is an attacker and complicit in swatting and we will publish information about your abuse. This isn't poor communication skills, I don't routinely use words like "attacker", "swatting", and "harassment" to communicate with people and I'm horrible at communication. In fact, nobody does that unless they are talking about attacks, swatting, or harassment!

I have no fucking words.
(6:32) Tom: "Not only that guys, but you're just focusing on his autism ... but I think you guys are forgetting: This guy has been swatted three times."
- If Daniel Micay has genuinely been swatted three times, that is horrible. However, it's deeply counterproductive to go after people like Louis Rossmann, who have played no role in the swatting.
Just for good measure, Tom Spark addresses the "next level of copium on reddit" about him not giving proof of the swatting, and says yeah he can't give you proof of the swatting without doxing him even more. So I guess we're supposed to just take his word for it because who fucking cares about evidence.
(7:04) "It's just so much bad faith arguments that it's cringe to me".

Never fucking addresses any of Daniel Micay's bad faith arguments against Seth Simmons, Techlore, CalyxOS, Louis Rossmann etc, but I guess it's hard to address them when you have his schlong all the way down your throat that it's now reaching through the small intestine.
(7:09) One of the things that bugs Tom the most is that Louis Rossmann claims that "because of his beef with Daniel Micay, Micay is somehow gonna introduce a vulnerability into the GrapheneOS code to target Louis Rossmann."
(7:21) "This is very toxic from Louis and even kinda misrepresents the goal of GrapheneOS. GrapheneOS is an open source project which means all the code is publicly verifiable and you can look at it every day."
- Guess he didn't watch the part where Louis says that he doesn't know how to code and can't verify the code himself.
- Also, it would be a significant downgrade in usability if every user had to verify the code themself due to being unable to trust the developer.
- ALSO ALSO, "aUdIt ThE cOdE" is not a silver bullet and bugs slip through every day, it'd be even easier to deliberately design something malicious that would be concealed from human eyes. This argument is so disingenuous it hurts. Probably not as much as having Daniel Micay's shaft all the way through your digestive system, though. It's now at Tom Spark's large intestine.
(7:35) Tom: "This would not be possible, it would completely kill the entire scope of GrapheneOS and Micay would never do something like that." (emphasis mine)
- I cannot give enough emotes to accurately represent just how optimistic that last part is.
(7:42) Tom: "And the fact that Louis is saying that about Micay, ... just goes the length to show you that he's kind of looking at Micay as bad faith as possible."

Tom Spark has double standards, because if he didn't have them, he wouldn't have any standards at all.
- If you want to talk about BAD FUCKING FAITH, just look at LITERALLY EVERYTHING DANIEL MICAY HAS DONE to Seth Simmons, Nick Merrill, Henry Fisher, hell even threatening Louis Rossmann with being exposed as a complicit swatter.
(8:01) Tom Spark says Louis Rossmann is talking about not being taken out of context, "but he doesn't even want to read it. And I think that's important, because if you do read it, you can see that Micay isn't really being that toxic" (emphasis mine)
- I vehemently disagree that "Micay isn't being toxic".
(8:23) "Micay's just saying he doesn't really trust Louis anymore because Louis doesn't want to remove a comment or something like that."
- Tom Spark when Louis says something negative about Daniel: "TOXIIIIC!!!"
- Tom Spark when Daniel says something negative about Louis: "Nah, that's not toxic, no way."
- Blatant double standard.
(8:30) "He's just talking about how people have issues with Graphene and are harassing them."
(8:37) "He's saying here that positive content doesn't matter if there is a huge amount of negative content."
- Okay, so Tom Spark clearly can't read. This is what Daniel is saying:
  
  Daniel Micay said:
  
  and this matters a lot more to me than most other things so making positive content about GrapheneOS doesn't cancel out even the slightest bit of support for this
  
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  He's not talking about a huge amount of negative content, he's talking about the slightest bit of support. Ie Rossmann's "Informative, but unfortunate" comment, which Daniel interprets as "support" for harassment and swatting, for some reason.
(9:03) Tom: "So all of this, I don't really see like what's so bad about it, it's just a lot of texting." I swear you don't even live in the same fucking world as the rest of us.
(9:10) "He's not saying 'if you don't remove this comment I'm going to introduce this vulnerability in the code, I'm going to inject some code in there.'" Yes. He is not literally saying that, but it's reasonable to believe that without needing him to be literally saying it. Honestly at this point, I think that if Daniel Micay did literally say "remove this comment or I will introduce a vulnerability into GrapheneOS", Tom Spark will come up with some excuse why that doesn't mean what Rossmann thinks it means and poor old Daniel Micay just has autism and poor communication skills.
He says Louis saying "Autism is not an excuse to bully people" is pretty toxic. Tom is very definitely reversing the victim and offender here.
(9:28) He says Daniel is not even bullying Louis Rossmann here. I don't know man, yelling at someone about how they're complicit in swatting sounds like bullying to me.
(9:47) Tom plays the clip of Louis saying this just seems like the biggest crybully thing.
"Here you can see Louis is not giving Micay the benefit of the doubt". Fuck right off. That got tossed out the window when Micay refused to give Louis the benefit of the doubt in the first place, and wouldn't change his mind that a single YouTube comment was somehow supporting harassment and swatting.
"He's not really understanding the context". Here's the context: Some guy barges in to your DMs, out of the blue, and threatens you with being exposed for swatting and harassment, unless you delete a YouTube comment.
"He doesn't really understand that Micay has been swatted three times." Good for him! I mean bad for him, whatever. It doesn't excuse his fucking behavior.
"He doesn't understand that Techlore's community has been attacking him." Techlore's community has not, and Tom's "proof" is that you can find criticism of GrapheneOS and Daniel Micay in their communities, which is not proof of anything at all.
(10:22) Oh my fucking god. Tom Spark is actually doing this bit again. Here's all the ""proof"" that Techlore's community is an evil harassment factory attacking GrapheneOS:
"These people think the project is going to vastly improve without Micay, blaming him for all the issues" And they're right!
"Claiming that Micay is a liar" He has claimed that screenshots of his own words are fabricated, when they are not. So yes, he's a liar. He also lies about Seth Simmons, Nick Merrill, Henry Fisher etc being involved in some sort of harassment campaign so he's lied about plenty of other stuff too.
(11:15) "Louis Rossmann seems like ... some kids are getting bullied, and he's like oh, you just need to stand up for yourself, you're not getting bullied stop being a crybaby." No he isn't you fucking dense retard. Put yourself in his shoes. He woke up to a guy who sounds crazy ranting to him about a harassment campaign he didn't know existed and is threatened with slander. The solution here isn't to just listen to or do what the crazy guy says.
(11:36) "This guy doesn't understand. Micay is saying it's attempted murder, because pretty much what happened is, Techlore made that video, maybe indirectly that video caused, let's say, a thousand people to start harassing Graphene or something like that, maybe one of those people decided to swat GrapheneOS, whether Techlore talked to that person or not isn't really the issue at hand, it's just that it could have inspired that person to swat Micay. It's not a huge leap of logic, it's just how it works. On the Internet, if you make a video, you're responsible for the reaction of that video whether you want to admit it or not. So, being swatted yes, it is attempted murder." (emphasis mine)
- This, this is advanced lunacy.
- All of this is false. And even if it was true, posting a YouTube comment is not support for attempted murder, let alone actual attempted murder.
(12:26) "So from that, this is the conclusion he comes to." As if his conclusion is unreasonable in any way.
He plays the clip of Rossmann saying "And here's the thing. The entire reason that I'm running this operating system on my phone is because I believe in privacy and security."
(12:39) Then in probably the most disingenuous move yet, Tom Spark pauses the video, and says the following: "Yeah, he believes in privacy and security so much, that he recorded all these private conversations and leaked them in a Google Drive format. So he really believes in privacy and security right"
- Fuck right off with that shit you dense nigger, you know full well that's not what Rossmann meant. And besides:
- It's not private if you yourself are telling it to someone else. If you don't want them to post it, then don't tell it to them.
- Believing in privacy and security means that you are in charge. It is your fault alone if you willingly reveal to someone something you don't want revealed.
(12:50) Rossmann: "Do I feel comfortable running your code on my phone after reading this?!"
Tom: "So again, nothing Micay said was a threat to inject code into his phone or anything like that with GrapheneOS, it's just a misrepresentation of the product." Sigh. I already went over this.
Tom then goes on and says if you don't trust the person, the code is open source. Yes, his sentence ends right there. I already went over this myth.
Tom says that Louis knows that it's open source and that Daniel wouldn't add anything and he doesn't really know why he made this point. No he fucking doesn't know Daniel wouldn't. He fucking tells you that he deleted GrapheneOS because of this.
(13:33) Tom Spark says that he doesn't respect Rossmann to just leak all these DMs, because "in the privacy community you're not really supposed to leak DMs, outside the privacy community, you're not supposed to leak DMs".
- Well that fucking right got revoked when Daniel threatened Rossmann with ruining his reputation.
He points out that Rossmann was recording the conversation as it happened, and that this was bad faith. He does not elaborate why it's bad faith.
(13:59) Tom Spark agrees with Daniel Micay on Twitter and says that these conversations were private and he did not expect them to become public, "which is understandable for sure".
- Too fucking bad. Next time Daniel, don't threaten people, and maybe they won't be scared enough to leak your shit.
(14:15) "So he was being real with Rossmann" No, he was being an insane lunatic.
"Louis Rossmann was recording, getting ready to 'expose' him which I pretty much think is bad faith" Daniel Micay is the one getting ready to expose Rossmann. Daniel Micay is the one doing bad faith. Tom Spark is going full DARVO here.
(14:32) Tom addresses Louis' comment "I thought some of the screenshots of how you communicated with others in that video were disappointing", referring to Techlore's video.
He rehashes his own video on Techlore's video, going over how Techlore criticized Daniel criticizing random companies (but not Daniel being an absolute menace to Nick Merrill and Seth Simmons...) and asserting, once again with his flimsy """proof""", that ackshually Techlore is toxic here.

No you retard. They're calling him crazy because he's crazy.
(15:29) His next piece of laughable proof of him being in the wrong is that he changed his thumbnail. Because... I literally do not know how this proves anything. He's right that he changed the thumbnail and title (before, after), but that's about it.
(16:06) "From these DMs, he's just saying hey, if you don't remove this toxic support for Techlore, you'll be banned." A YouTube comment saying "This is informative, and unfortunate" is not toxic. And now apparently the goalposts have shifted from "attempted murder" to "support for attempted murder" to "toxic", I guess. Then he shows this:

Oh whoop de fucking do. Just in case it wasn't clear: Yes, Louis wasn't banned, he was only threatened to be banned. I'm sure that's miles better than actually being banned. Definitely miles. Such a huge fucking difference.
(16:26) "Do I think Techlore and Rossmann killed GrapheneOS?" He says yes just because Daniel Micay stepped down.
(16:51) Some random screenshots because Techlore And Rossmann Bad And No Good:
"This user is questioning it, Rossmann knows this would happen, why else did he make this video, besides knowing it was going to indirectly hurt the project, he was just trying to get revenge on Micay because he doesn't like his way of communicating" He made it so he wouldn't have his fucking reputation slandered?
(17:41) He wagers that Techlore is happy Daniel stepped down, as if it's a bad thing to be happy about. But this is only the start of him bashing Techlore. I would say mask off, but Tom Spark's mask has been off this entire time throating Daniel Micay's cock.
He says Techlore pinned Louis' "This is informative, and unfortunate" comment.
He talks about how Techlore decided to stop using custom Android ROMs (is... is this a bad thing? why the fuck do you care what he uses)
(18:47) He says Techlore has a bachelor's degree in graphic design so you shouldn't use him for consulting with your IT business. (what the fuck does this have to do with the rest of the video)
(18:59) "Also, check out the dislikes. Yikes."

That's not a particularly bad ratio...?
(19:12) Ok, I am not making this shit up, it looks like he's playing a parody video of Techlore by someone named "Tech-Bore" which denounces him as not a real expert. Can you tell Tom Spark really hates Techlore now because of Daniel Micay? Whose cock is now firmly through Tom's digestive system and out his anus.
Hey wait a minute, Tom, aren't you meeting your own (very loose) definition of toxicity by going on about Techlore like this? Oh right, double standards, Techlore bad and Daniel Micay good, nevermind.
(19:34) The last three minutes is just this summary. Of course, it's all wrong (except for "Micay should have hired a PR person"). He's blatantly dickriding Daniel Micay. The end.

Markass the Worst · May 31, 2023

APPENDIX C: Legal Documents / Miscellaneous

Micay ... Counterclaim.pdf is Daniel Micay's counterclaim in the Copperhead Limited v. Daniel Micay lawsuit (Copperhead is the plaintiff here, ie the party that started legal proceedings against the other). This file used to be available at https://grapheneos.org/legal/Micay_ Copperhead_ Statement of Defendant and Counterclaim.pdf (wayback), but for whatever reason that link now redirects to https://grapheneos.org/history/copperheados (archive).
my-bogus-legal.pdf and uni-bogus-legal.pdf are bogus legal letters sent to Renlord Yang and his university (University of Melbourne) because Yang allegedly infringed on CopperheadOS' copyright. They are sourced from https://renlord.com/posts/2020-03-25-copperheados-legal-threat/ (archive).

Nicholas II of Russia · Jun 1, 2023

First of all, I just want to say. Massive props to you to getting all of this information to start things up, this is an amazing OP.

Second, wooow, this guy is a massive piece of shit. I'm now waiting for him to give the freakout of a lifetime seeing him finally having his own thread in the forum. Seems like he was anticipating himself for the inevitable thread that he was gonna get, maybe he'll think that you or some of the users are some of the devs that he started fights with. I didn't know that the software community would have problems and drama like this.

I'm putting this on my watchlist, this guy seems like a real piece of work, it's gonna be interesting seeing how this is going to develop.

Markass the Worst · Jun 1, 2023

Nicholas II of Russia said:
Seems like he was anticipating himself for the inevitable thread that he was gonna get, maybe he'll think that you or some of the users are some of the devs that he started fights with.

To be clear, Daniel, none of us are affiliated with the people you picked fights with. In fact, all of the people you constantly go on about are doing their own separate things and living their own lives. James Donaldson, Nick Merrill, Seth Simmons, Henry Fisher, Louis Rossmann - they are all their own individuals unrelated to each other.

He will never admit this however.

AirdropShitposts · Jun 1, 2023

Markass the Worst said:
This all culminates in Seth Simmons' own blog post documenting the retardation and spergery he endured.

source (archive)

This is a perfect summary image.

Pros:
-Large community
-Works perfectly
-Lots of features
-Free

Cons:
-Replaces Google surveillance with Daniel Micay's personal surveillance.
-You may wind up with a horsehead in your bed from the lead developer.

The Mass Shooter Ron Soye · Jun 1, 2023

Will he go away quietly now that @larossmann ruined his whole career, or will he provide sweet, sweet milk? Only Daniel Micay can decide.

Carpe Jugulum · Jun 1, 2023

A shining example of extreme autism with a persecution complex.

It’s beautiful.

Pee Cola · Jun 1, 2023

Nicholas II of Russia said:
I'm putting this on my watchlist, this guy seems like a real piece of work, it's gonna be interesting seeing how this is going to develop.

There should be a poll.

When Daniel Micay finds his KF thread, will he:
(a) team up with Liz Fong-Jones and completely destroy the entire fabric of the capital-I Internet in an attempt to kill the Farms once and for all;
(b) start signing off every tweet with #DropKiwiFarms and #EndKiwiFarms apropos of nothing;
(c) attempt to have @larossmann cancelled and fired from FUTO just because he's posted on the Farms a couple times;
(d) call in a favor from Edward Snowden and have him track Null down in Eastern Europe so Daniel can organise a hit on Dear Feeder;
(e) seek Canadian Healthcare; or
(f) all of the above?

BTW this is one of the best OPs in the Farms' history. @Markass the Worst has lifted the PG OP game to a new level.
:semperfidelis:

batterybee · Jun 1, 2023

Lol what an absolute arsehole.
I would be interested to know more about the guys personal like, I know he has the tism but what else makes a person so anti-social like this?

Sad to see another promising open source project be ruined by histrionic spergs, oh well
Great OP btw ;3

Outta my way Mr Foili · Jun 1, 2023

being a paranoid asshole doesnt seem so bad to me

Daniel Micay made a great OS

Techlore and Louis Rossmann made smear videos

Ye shall know them by their fruit

Matthew 7:15–20

Markass the Worst · Jun 1, 2023

Outta my way Mr Foili said:
being a paranoid asshole doesnt seem so bad to me

Daniel Micay made a great OS

Techlore and Louis Rossmann made smear videos

Ye shall know them by their fruit

Matthew 7:15–20

~~I thought you were going to leave the site~~ (he wasn't). Read the entire OP. Are you sure you're not Daniel?

Outta my way Mr Foili · Jun 1, 2023

Markass the Worst said:
Read the entire OP. Are you sure you're not Daniel?

Yes, Daniel is a faggot for trying to fuck over the Kiwifarms, I agree.

I appreciate the effort u put into the OP. And I'm glad u made it.

but some of the other stuff just doesnt seem so bad, just wanted to put that out there.

and he did make a great open source OS,

compared to calys OS which is apparently not as good.

Baguette Child · Jun 1, 2023

Outta my way Mr Foili said:
great OS

If by great OS you mean buggy piece of shit, sure, maybe. Calyx is better. I know hearing this fact is hard for you to accept but be brave, Daniel.

Outta my way Mr Foili · Jun 1, 2023

Baguette Child said:
If by great OS you mean buggy piece of shit

skill issue

Archie_Kimkicker · Jun 1, 2023

Gettin real fucking sick and tired of people comparing this piece of nigger shit to Terry. Terry was bugfuck insane and his own worst enemy, but at the end of the day he was a gentle soul who was profoundly moved by the visions that intruded on his world.

Daniel Micay is a low-functioning cancer who should have been beaten and/or raped to death by a drunken father.

Outta my way Mr Foili · Jun 1, 2023

Archie_Kimkicker said:
Daniel Micay is a low-functioning cancer who should have been beaten and/or raped to death by a drunken father.

King Solomon KF version

Slav Power · Jun 1, 2023

I wonder what will Louis' reaction be when the site goes back on Clearnet, he reminds himself of this place, decides to log in, and finds multiple mentions of him in a thread about the GrapheneOS guy. :story:

Celebrate Nite · Jun 1, 2023

Pee Cola said:
When Daniel Micay finds his KF thread, will he:
(a) team up with Liz Fong-Jones and completely destroy the entire fabric of the capital-I Internet in an attempt to kill the Farms once and for all;
(b) start signing off every tweet with #DropKiwiFarms and #EndKiwiFarms apropos of nothing;
(c) attempt to have @larossmann cancelled and fired from FUTO just because he's posted on the Farms a couple times;
(d) call in a favor from Edward Snowden and have him track Null down in Eastern Europe so Daniel can organise a hit on Dear Feeder;
(e) seek Canadian Healthcare; or
(f) all of the above?

Howabout (g) create an account here, pretend like it's not really him and go on full rampage/defense mode.. you know, like what's currently happening now in this thread.

Daniel Micay / strcat / strncat / thestinger / GrapheneOS - Schizo software programmer and developer of GrapheneOS Android ROM. Starts drama with everyone and accuses them of harassment. Chronic brigader and bridge burner.

don't do stance, kids