I've been thinking about this whole thing a lot.
@mikeclum
First let me say, thank you for coming to Kiwifarms. There are people within the greater "detractor-sphere" who will not come here for a multitude of reasons, so the fact that you did, is a good sign. I believe that I was a bit too standoff-ish in my initial replies, so I would like to apologize. However, I believe the sentiments that I expressed in those replies are valid and held by many, as they have been echoed by many of my fellow farmers. I would ask that, if you are truly looking for feedback or input, please do not disregard those sentiments, even if you do not like them.
I'd like to respond more directly to the topics, or discussion points that you laid out in your original post.
I'd love to interview a member of the Kiwi Farms community regarding Phil and your thoughts/opinions on Phil as a person and content creator.
Phil is a mentally ill narcissist with a tiny, and ever-dwindling audience. Phil is a liar, a scammer, and a beggar, who has a crippling gambling addiction that completely controls his life. Everything that Phil does online - his daily streams, his nauseating catalogue of content, Patreon stuff, clout chasing, interviews, etc. are all done to serve Phil's addiction. Phil's content is horrid, but he believes that it is legitimately good, due to a combination of narcissism, delusion, and entitlement. It is for these reasons, that we like to laugh at Phil, and chronicle the things he does.
It's as simple as that.
We sometimes have more in-depth discussions about Phil's life, such as the relationship between him and his wife, or his ex, or his parents, etc. - Because the circumstances around all of those relationships are weird, to say the least, but those things are minutia, and honestly they have been discussed
ad nauseam on this forum.
As Phil calls them; "detractors"
Anyone who does not believe in Phil's lies, or submit to his narratives, is a detractor.
Do you believe that Phil is lying about something - about anything? You are a detractor. Did you want to see both sides of the story regarding anything that has happened in Phil's life, or on Phil's stream, so you ventured into a place such as KiwiFarms, or the DSP Reddit, or a re-streamer live chat, or anywhere where DSP is discussed, other than Phil's own stream? You are a detractor. Did you do research on a topic which involved gathering information from anywhere other than Phil's own mouth? You are a detractor.
This is how Phil thinks. Phil thinks this way, because he knows that if someone were to listen to anyone other than him, it would result in that person realizing that Phil has lied.
Or if there are any "fans" in here too, would love to get your input.
This is a broad topic. Phil does not have many fans left. Many of Phil's fans have left him over the years, most of them, completely due to Phil's own behavior. DSP fans are not normal people. Many of them are mentally challenged or mentally stunted in some way. I do not say this to be mean, and I am not being hyperbolic. The amount of DSP fans who have been doxxed, and turned out to be disabled, whether it be physically, mentally, or both,
is absolutely astounding.
There is something about Phil, something about the way he behaves or something about his content, that draws these people in. This, in my opinion, is one of the more fascinating things about "The Vortex."
If you'd like to see this for yourself, check out the
Fan General Thread
To get more specific, you expressed that you would like to speak to Phil's fans. I mentioned in a previous reply, that Phil has completely insulated himself from the outside world. Phil has demanded that his audience do the same.
Phil has warned his fans to be wary of people, such as yourself, coming around and asking them questions, or offering to interview them. Phil has specifically instructed his fans, to not engage, with people such as yourself.
Phil has told his fans, many, many times that they should not have any front facing social media, or any online identity that can be traced back to any of their other identities, whatsoever. If you are a fan of DSPGaming, you need to delete all of your social media, and you need to censor yourself in Youtube comments and live chats, as to never reveal any personal information about yourself. You must be, effectively, anonymous.
Due to this, the vast majority of Phil's fanbase has zero online presence. They are complete ghosts. The only reason that we even know that these people exist, is because Phil's Youtube videos get, roughly, 500 views.
These people have been dubbed, by Phil, as "The Silent Majority." They never voice their opinions, they never like Phil's tweets, they never comment, they never engage with Phil, or his content, or his "community" whatsoever. You would not be in poor company, to question whether these people actually exist at all. This is exactly how Phil wants it. This is completely by design.
With that being said, there are a handful of people, true and honest DSP fans, who do have some online presence. These people are few - dozens at most, and needless to say, these people do not have the greatest of mental faculties. These are people such as: Derich (who i'm sure you've heard of by now, he
has his own thread here ) Slayer, Kevin Styles, Bill Kulpa (Mizore Lover), Gothy Senpai, Haseo, and others. These people can be found on twitter, most of them, occassionally replying to Phil's tweets, or in the case of Kevin Styles, constantly arguing with a Stuttering Craig parody account called "Sputtering Craig." These people are also averse to being interviewed.
Stuttering Craig, several times, tried to open a dialogue with DSP's real and honest fans. Craig implored these people to speak up. None of them did. Keemstar, personally, contacted Derich on Twitter. Derich immediately blocked him.
I'd love input to know what you'd like to see in a documentary on Phil. Scene ideas, interview questions, subjects to interview, and more. Let me know and I'll do my best to consider including it in the film.
As has already been discussed, we want to see Phil's condo. We want to see how he lives. We want to see his wife, and how the two of them interact, for real. Not some staged bullshit that Phil has set up in advance, which if he were to let you into his condo, is exactly what he would do. I have not seen your Boogie documentary, but I would assume, given that experience, that you would be able to tell if Phil is being candid with you, or if he is trying to put on a front, and pull the wool over your eyes.
The reason that Phil's condo and his wife have been harped on so much in this thread, as others have already stated, is that these are things which could potentially expose Phil. They could show that his life, and his relationship with his wife ( who also
has her own thread here ) are a total sham - a house of cards, which I believe was also stated earlier. It could also show that Phil lied on his bankruptcy, due to items that may be laying around his house, as well as, generally showing how much money Phil blows on absolute bullshit, while he literally begs for people to send grocery money directly to his Paypal, under the guise that he could not afford them otherwise. It would also show that Phil is a fucking pig and his condo is in disrepair, something which he does not want known, because he is actively trying to refinance his home.
If you want your documentary to have legs, you need to include this IRL footage.
Other than this, and again, as has already been expressed, people would love to see live interviews with Phil's ex, Leanna, Phil's former friends and co-content creators, John Rambo and Howard, and Phil's parents, David and Linda Burnell.
However, these people all have, virtually, zero online presence, and if they do, all of their social medias are privated, as they want nothing to do with any of this DSP shit. Phil maintains, that neither of his parents even know how to use the internet.
To be clear: This is neither a "puff piece" nor a "hit piece". If you have seen my film on Boogie2988, you will see that really I'm here to show all sides of the conversation. You may have seen my debut film on Boogie2988 where I dive into his life. This will give you a sense of the tone of the film.
There are not many sides to the DSP thing. There are two sides - Phil's side, and everyone else's.
It's DSP, and the handful of mentally stunted sycophants who will blindly believe anything that Phil tells them, vs. the tens of thousands of, if not more, people who are familiar with DSP, either through his own content, or "detractor content" which,
I cannot stress enough, is just clips of Phil's streams, re-uploaded.
Phil, unironically, expects you to believe that the tens of thousands of people who "hate watch" him, the thousands of people who have documented the things that he's said and done, or anyone who does not like him for whatever reason, are all wrong about him, and all of the evidence of Phil's malpractices and misbehaviors - whether they be his WWEC gambling, his bank transactions, the circumstances of his relationship with his wife, the fallout with his old friends, his suspensions from Twitch, the events that led many of his true and honest fans to leave him - whatever it is,
are all fabricated, and completely untrue.
If you are making a documentary about DSP, and if this documentary is honest and objective, it is impossible for it to not be a hit piece. There is nothing on this fucking planet that could ever paint Phil Burnell in a good light. Every single thing about him, and the Vortex which swirls around him, is negative and incriminating. If you feature input and interviews from all of these people, like you've said you plan to, it will reveal Phil to be a bad person, and Phil will label you as a detractor, just as he did with Turkey Tom and Stuttering Craig. The only question is - How long will it take?
