DarksydePhil Meta Thread - Discussion of the board itself.

[hector85]

You all don’t realize how good you have it with a dedicated subforum like this considering how little Phil provides today, and it’s clearly just making the community here worse off for it.

so delete the sub if it's that much of an issue. at this point theres no convincing the people who don't find him interesting so whats the fucking point? delete the sub and give dsp a little corner in the lolcow sub next to cobes, perry, chibi, britbong, bmj, and all the other retards.

 

[We Are The Witches]

ok? who cares? does that make him a lolcow? what about the homeless people asking for gas money to buy drugs with? or the little gypsie girls holding other people's babies? go beat up a gypsie or something if that's the only thing you give a fuck about.

I think what makes him a lolcow is his narcissistic behaviour, stupidity and serious lack of self awareness, but the definition of lolcow is somewhat subjective.

Yeah, those people who do that are also immoral, so?

I do care about other things in Kiwifarms, has nothing to do with my opinion on DSP or his actions.

 

[Harm]

so delete the sub if it's that much of an issue. at this point theres no convincing the people who don't find him interesting so whats the fucking point? delete the sub and give dsp a little corner in the lolcow sub next to cobes, perry, chibi, britbong, bmj, and all the other retards.

This makes the most sense. All DSP discussion can be consolidated and housed in a single thread at this point alongside all the others.

 

[A Big Bumbling Black Man]

you've almost done it, you've almost explained it

You claimed know the lore and got a basic thing wrong in the same paragraph.
Less than 24 hours ago you didn't even know the Superhound situation.
When DSP tells you the detractors broke into his bank account and stole all his money, are you going to believe that?

 

[Cardinal Cardinal]

ok? who cares? does that make him a lolcow? what about the homeless people asking for gas money to buy drugs with? or the little gypsie girls holding other people's babies? go beat up a gypsie or something if that's the only thing you give a fuck about.

This is why it's pointless to argue with Josh. He puts his idea out and when others try to explain what they mean he resorts to whataboutism and says there are worse things happening.
Why do we get yelled at for trying to justify our views when you ask a question? There's no "correct" answer since he's going to default back to the nameless people who want Phil dead.

 

[myone]

This is why it's pointless to argue with Josh. He puts his idea out and when others try to explain what they mean he resorts to whataboutism and says there are worse things happening.

You just fail to integrate into the culture of the forum if you think it's okay to simply respond to nonsense posts. No one except the DSP cesspool does shit like this, explaining things, it's insane.

 

[Yung Dalph]

I don't know why anyone bothers trying to convince this faggot DSP is a good lolcow. He's completely brainrotten himself from his holy jihad against trannies and running this site. It's like trying to get a fentanyl addict to drink a beer instead.

 

[WTBOnlineFather]

The fact that you think those things about someone as milquetoast as DSP makes you not too far from a seething ween though. That's kind of where the issue begins. Then the other issue is how many loons there are that are willing to go so far just to mess with him or cheer on those that go too far. It looks weird to everyone else. Because it is weird.

So much legit seethe over someone who sucked at MGS2 over a decade ago.

How so, exactly? What's wrong with me thinking anything? I just think he's an asshole because he acts like one lol. I don't let it affect any of my actions and neither do most people here, at the very least not recently. Independently of my opinion on his behavior I enjoy discussing him and watching some of his content because it's funny.

You're proving my point because you ignore everything else I've said and latch solely onto my criticism of DSP's behavior just to go "you're seething, that's bad, and there are crazy people who fuck with him." Firstly I think you're vastly overstating the seething, there are worse offenders imo like entire threads about pedophiles or trannies where 90% of posters will just reiterate that all pedos should be shot. Nothing wrong with that opinion but this kind of seething adds nothing to the discussion either, not to mention I've seen legit pedos who make incredibly creepy tiktok videos for kids get much milder reactions here on KF than common shit like twitch streamers who DM'ed a 17 year old. Yet no one is trying to police that because it would obviously be retarded. Bottom line is people's reactions to seeing despicable shit are subjective. Maybe you think Phil is a really cool and friendly guy who did nothing wrong and everything correct in which case everything I say about him will sound insane to you, but that's not my problem.

Regarding the weens, who exactly are you referring to? The Comcast retard, the bank retard and many other weens who have high-profile fucked with Phil in the past came to KF to brag about their actions but they weren't longtime forum users knowingly acting in violation of forum culture or anything close to such. Once the cat is out of the bag what do you do other than laugh at it and tell the guy who did it to fuck off? This argument largely amounts to wanting to close down the board because of the actions of people who aren't even really part of the site.

 

[Soylent Dora]

This is why it's pointless to argue with Josh. He puts his idea out and when others try to explain what they mean he resorts to whataboutism and says there are worse things happening.
Why do we get yelled at for trying to justify our views when you ask a question? There's no "correct" answer since he's going to default back to the nameless people who want Phil dead.

I've been following this most recent cycle and its the same as the last. Null has already made up his mind (which is fine) but isn't even attempting to hear out the many reasonable people here explaining the situation and again is asking ridiculous standards to justify why people follow Phil when that standard could be applied to almost every lolcow. Chris Chan (until fucking his mother) is just an autistic retard. There's nothing special about him at all except people fucked with him causing him to lash out. It's like people haven't encounter an actual autist in real life. That's okay, but if we talk about Phil we're dumb because he's boring? It's all subjective and doesn't make any sense. Someone else made a good point about Scalfani and Fatrick. What about RazorFist? Completely irrelevant but has a board where they fight about politics constantly. Ralph and Rekieta? Fucking toxic boards with a handful of posters actually contributing and the rest shitting the bed hating them. And that should be fine. I thought that was the point of the site.

There's no point in this anymore. Shut it down and we can all move on.

 

[Eekum Bokum]

I find DSP entertaining and find Rekeita, Bossman, Ralph, Boogie, Chris-chan and KC boring.

 

[Harm]

The DSP detractors are more obviously funny than Phil is at this point. Doody and Snort Hogan's autistic flailing on Twitter, Ravensdolphin being outed as an actual pedophile, Steve malding for 10 hours about how DSP pets his cat, Suprcrzy's cringe videos attacking people for giving Phil 50 bits, Piece of Peace spending days doing Phil's taxes for him, all the faggots and trannies they tolerate in their communities, their inability to run a competitor's forum (Goutopia is an embarrassment with broken pages, placeholder text everything, and a dead forum); they're a circus all their own.

Null has already made up his mind (which is fine) but isn't even attempting to hear out the many reasonable people here explaining the situation and again is asking ridiculous standards to justify why people follow Phil when that standard could be applied to almost every lolcow.

The fact Null's asking follow-up questions show he is hearing it out. It's not his fault none of you have satisfactory follow-ups. Instead of bemoaning Null for not taking you at face value, you can articulate yourself another way or take another shot. It's hard for him to hear you out when you throw up your hands and cry "persecution" yet again when he questions anything.

Chris Chan (until fucking his mother) is just an autistic retard. There's nothing special about him at all except people fucked with him causing him to lash out.

Really? The "boyfriend-free girl" signs, the Sonichu comics, none of that was interesting until people got him to lash out? Are you stupid?

 

[Soylent Dora]

The fact Null's asking follow-up questions show he is hearing it out. It's not his fault none of you have satisfactory follow-ups. Instead of bemoaning Null for not taking you at face value, you can articulate yourself another way or take another shot. It's hard for him to hear you out when you throw up your hands and cry "persecution" yet again when he questions anything.

This happened last time, its not new and nothing changed. Hence why we're here talking about it. Again

Really? The "boyfriend-free girl" signs, the Sonichu comics, none of that was interesting until people got him to lash out? Are you stupid?

Yes. To me, That shit is boring and just old internet lore I'm supposed to care about. I deal with enough creepy autists in real life so I couldn't care less about him. That's the point. I don't think the Chris Chan board should be shut down because he's just another boring autist. Have fun, talk about it and enjoy. It's subjective is my point.

 

[myone]

The fact Null's asking follow-up questions show he is hearing it out. It's not his fault none of you have satisfactory follow-ups.

He's literally complaining about people responding to his posts one page earlier. Touch grass.

 

[Harm]

I don't think the Chris Chan board should be shut down because he's just another boring autist.

It's a discussion forum. If there's nothing to discuss then it shouldn't be a board. With Chris Chan, whether he's your flavor of lolcow or not, there's plenty to discuss and plenty people to have those discussions. The same cannot be said for DSP. The amount of discussions to be had are slim and the amount of people who vibe with the site culture who want to have those discussions is even slimmer.

Perhaps moving the thread to the lolcow subforum and closing the DSP subforum might help fix the problem.

This happened last time, its not new and nothing changed.

Plenty changed last time. New moderators installed, old moderators ousted, dozens of regulars were banned, people using the DSP board were encouraged on both the forums and MATI to make more community happenings posts to bring more people to the board, Null covered more DSP on MATI, and the thing that didn't change was the userbase whose attitude stayed sour and nasty. Null absolutely made an effort and he was sandbagged by people who resent him for not seeing eye-to-eye on whether DSP deserves life ruination.

He's literally complaining about people responding to his posts one page earlier. Touch grass.

I've read all of it and you are not a victim. Touch lava.

 

[We Are The Witches]

The fact Null's asking follow-up questions show he is hearing it out. It's not his fault none of you have satisfactory follow-ups. Instead of bemoaning Null for not taking you at face value, you can articulate yourself another way or take another shot.

You're missing the point that considering DSP entertaining/boring or not is completely subjective. Null like many others, find him boring, others, like the regulars here, do not. With that made up mind, there's not going to be a satisfactory answer in regards to that, do you want someone to make Null interested in DSP? It's not happening.

I also find boring other "lolcows" here, and you cannot give me a satisfactory answer on why they should have a board, since it's the most mundane & boring stuff I've ever seen, but some people enjoy it and it's their opinion. Then I can just not show up there, but if I do and spew ignorant stuff there, I'll probably get insulted for being unacquainted with that person.

 

[Soylent Dora]

The same cannot be said for DSP. The amount of discussions to be had are slim and the amount of people who vibe with the site culture who want to have those discussions is even slimmer.

Chris got released from Jail. That's it. He got spotted a couple of times in public? But you should be able to get the point. It's your opinion. Justify 90% of the site. Most don't do enough to justify a board. More than enough has happened in the past year, year and a half to justify Phil having a board by this metric.

Plenty changed last time. New moderators installed, old moderators ousted, dozens of regulars were banned, people using the DSP board were encouraged on both the forums and MATI to make more community happenings posts to bring more people to the board, Null covered more DSP on MATI, and the thing that didn't change was the userbase whose attitude stayed sour and nasty. Null absolutely made an effort and he was sandbagged by people who resent him for not seeing eye-to-eye on whether DSP deserves life ruination.

Then why are we having the same conversation?

 

[WTBOnlineFather]

and the thing that didn't change was the userbase whose attitude stayed sour and nasty

Another thing that hasn't changed whatsoever is Null's attitude as he restarted this discussion, and neither has that of you and other people who came here to support him. You absolutely refuse to even consider the possibility that maybe you just don't see reality past your own opinion, that maybe DSP isn't boring to everyone like he is to you, and that this board isn't as much of a cesspit as you make it out to be, and that maybe you aren't being an enlightened voice of reason but instead you're provoking ire by accusing people of various things.

 

[Harm]

Most don't do enough to justify a board.

That's a cogent point. Most individuals don't deserve their own board, which is another good reason for this one to be retired as well as part of that effort. The Rekieta board was always going to be temporary, and then that leaves what? Chris Chan, the original lolcow, and Ethan Ralph. The forums have been trending that direction for awhile, so it only makes sense.

Then why are we having the same conversation?

Because he gave the subforum another chance instead of deleting it then, which I was against at the time and time has vindicated me.

Thank you for bolstering my point on this front.

 

[Telemeter]

I feel like there's this idea if only it was EXPLAINED to me that DSP did a bad thing I would care more, so I get EXPLAINED to a lot, which doesn't help because I've been around for 11 years and I know who DSP is, I was actively participating in a lot of discussion only a few years ago, and I've seen enough about him to know basically all the broad strokes.

It's obvious you are not interested in DSP as a lolcow, so what would be the point to explaining it? It's like trying to get into General Hospital o any other of those long running soup operas with a ton of loyal viewers but that are completely incomprehensible to anyone new trying to get in cause every single scene has 100 episodes of context behind it, so they just think it's stupid and the viewers must be retarded.

It's the same thing with Phil, I don't know what else to tell you, it's clearly a waste of time to argue about it beyond that.

 

[Soylent Dora]

That's a cogent point. Most individuals don't deserve their own board, which is another good reason for this one to be retired as well as part of that effort. The Rekieta board was always going to be temporary, and then that leaves what? Chris Chan, the original lolcow, and Ethan Ralph. The forums have been trending that direction for awhile, so it only makes sense.


Because he gave the subforum another chance instead of deleting it then, which I was against at the time and time has vindicated me.

Thank you for bolstering my point on this front.

Null said in response to me yesterday he had no issues with us since the last purge. There is no justification for this, at all. We haven't done anything except talk about Phil. Again, that's him saying it. So what the fuck are you talking about?

But to your first point - Then why aren't any of the other boards being considered for the chopping block? Why are they not being raided by people like you for them being toxic or whatever the fuck we do? If Null wants to go in that direction then great, its his shit to do what he wants with. But its the DSP board that is getting singled out. Here, on MATI, on every place that it comes up.