Odie Esty
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writing a letter to the family of your abuser and telling them they're complicit in his abuse is probably not gonna win you any points with them
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I noticed the date after I read it, but I knew it was ancient as soon as I saw "she added me on MySpace".edit: that shit on imgur, which I can't get past with an adblocker, is from 2009!!!!!!!! jfc
Same for around 90% of American states. (I didn't know he was british til you said something).It is legal to have sex in UK at aged 16 so hardly grooming.
This aint twitter, we like proof of claims. No male above the age of 18 should be calling themselves a "boy" tho.
Er, what exactly do you expect the family to do? Like, I'm trying to think of what I would be expected to do if my family received a letter from digruntled ex girlfriends complaining that my uncle was a sex addict that dates younger women. Like yeah, I don't think it's good but what could I say to my uncle? "Hey uncle Barry, stop dating younger women, it's gross!" What would that accomplish besides me wasting my time? I really want to know what these ex girlfriends want or expect the family to do in this situation.I want you to know that we tried to handle this privately and quietly - we sent a letter to his family in attempts to stop him but without any results. He's still targeting his very young, female fans (he has 3mil subs on yt). Please publish it on your forum.
Look. I don't think a 23 year old dating a 17 year old is a good idea, and I'm not gonna be friends with anyone who does this shit. But I also have to acknowledge that in most places of the world, 17 is considered legal and even in places where it's 18, most people aren't going to give a shit about a 17 year old hooking up with a 23 year old. You can find it gross, but this letter's tone makes it sound like he was sleeping with a 10 year or something.As you know, David is now a 35yo polyamorous man with over a decade of provable history of dating girls much younger than him, including his highly gullible, obsessive, young fans. As you know, he once dated Rachel, who was 17 when he was 23.
C'mon, give me a break. I get that it's gross for a 23 year old to date a 17 year old, but in no part of the world would anyone consider this a pedo relationship. What a slap in the face to real victims of pedos. This sentence makes it seem like this is just a vindictive ex.Let us add that this relationship in many countries would be considered as pedophilia
So he pumps and dumps women. Wow, what an asshole! But still, who cares? Maybe before post-nut clarity, he really means what he says and does feel lovely dovey. Then he has sex and realizes he doesn't like them anymore. It's shitty, but shitty boyfriends is not the same as being a power abusing pedo. Here's what you do when you sleep with some guy that ended up being an asshole: learn from it and move on with your life. Take it as a lesson to be more discerning and to not let your emotions or being starstruck guide who you sleep with.He has a pattern of preying on his young fans - after they admire him and write to him on his social media, he starts to date them. He then tells them how much he loves them ->, that they are replaceable, and finally discards them for new ones as soon as they disagree or refuse to do whatever he wants.
Listen, I hate porn and think it has completely ruined our society and this generation of men. It's gross and has turned men into degenerate freaks. If he's watching legal shit though, then who the hell cares? I hate how addicted men are to porn these days, but at the end of the day, this shit is being pushed on everyone by billion dollar corporations. It has become normalized for men to watch it, and it's been deemed empowering for women who star in it, no matter how degrading it actually is for them.We know this is difficult for you to read, but it needs to be said. He also has a provable porn addiction that includes him being attracted to pre-teenage girls and women who dress to look like children. It's sickening. Especially considering that he dedicated his career to "helping" struggling young people and ended up harming many of them.
Notice that this letter brings up 'age gaps' but never states their ages (except the one 17 year old). Men that date younger women are typically creeps, but if it's legal (Which it must be since the letter NEVER brings up their actual ages) again who cares? Where is he abusing his power? This guy is not rich, and having 3 million subscribers isn't shit. He isn't in any authoritative position at a job, so it's not like he's able to affect these women's livelihoods. By this letter's own words, he tries to impress these ladies with his YouTube influence, these ladies get duped thinking 3 millions subscribers is a lot and fall for him.He has a pattern of dating and sleeping with a specific group of girls - younger (most of his recent girlfriends were 10 or more years younger than him) over whom he has power and control, and who are never his equals. What we mean by that is young, poor girls, often students with no big careers yet, whom he can impress by his "success" and money. He exclusively chooses girls with a vast gap money, and influence so he can manipulate and mold them. Most of us (outside of Shona) were too scared to speak about it due to this reason.
Polyamorous relationships are degenerate and never work out. That said, it's trendy right now and seen as totally "empowering" and a new form of sexual liberation. Hell, this part of your letter would piss off a ton of Liberals for being sex negative. Anyway, I think poly people are incredibly naive and stupid, but once again, this is more evidence of him being a player or asshole, not a pedo power abuser.He coerced multiple young girls into being polyamorous, even if it was something they had never considered before him. He advertises it as a superior way of living which is highly inappropriate if not abusive. He tells his partners that they're replaceable, disappears if they don't do everything he wants, and treats them with zero empathy. We meant nothing to him outside of his pleasure, his wants, and his entertainment. When girls want to leave, he either blocks them before they can confront him or uses his depression and suicidality as cards to force them to stay until he gets bored of them.
This entire part is just emotional drivel. He's a jerk that never wants to admit he's wrong... and? Most of us here can name several people in our lives that are like this. You don't see us writing letters and crusades against them. Jesus, is the concept of just not hanging out with shitty people dead?He uses his depression to control girls by justifying why he treats them like garbage or playing the victim card. He always refuses to take any personal responsibility and accountability for how cruel, vindictive, callous, hurtful, and abusive he is. If you ever wondered why years of therapy never really helped him, it's because he cannot face who he really is, and he's unable to take ownership of the things he did, painting himself in bright light in front of his therapists. That's a ticket to nowhere.
Male feminists are cringe and liars, yeah. Still haven't seen any evidence of this ABUSE.He used, abused, and left so many girls that he could, at this point, write an alphabet from the first letters of their names. Please remember - he advertises himself as a male feminist to the entire world - while in reality, he is an abuser of multiple young girls.
What does him being a shitty friend and bandmate have to do with him being a pedo power abuser? Again, this is just emotional drivel meant to make the reader hate him without actually showing this alleged abuse.He acts similarly with his friends - treating them badly, as replaceable. Lying about them to make himself look good or to get what he wants. For example when after having no contact for more than a decade with his bandmates, out of the blue he tweeted that they used to ignore his self-harm which was a lie (confirmed and confronted by his bandmates on twitter and on reddit years ago). Darren admitted that they talked after and both apologized but Dave never acknowledged that and left that tweet on his frontpage for almost two years now – sending his twitter mob on his past friends who have normal lives, and Dave got thousands of sympathy tweets from young girls that strongly relate to the problem of self-harm. He does things like that to get attention and pity all the time.
Again, we are sorry that you had to read it. We are not his "haters", not witchhunters, and not strangers. We don't want anything. Like you, we used to care about him. But he has to be stopped. Ours and yours enabling of this has to stop. Deep into your hearts, you know what we're talking about, and we know that you realize how cruel he can be. He needs to face himself and meet the responsibility for the people he hurt before even more young girls get severely damaged, which they will then carry for the rest of their lives.
So let me get this straight, he's apparently a pedo power abuser groomer that has many young victims, yet you guys don't want create a witch hunt, you just want him to stop and get better? If he's really this big bad guy, then you guys should doing your best to cancel him and get him in jail. But no, you want him to "do better". More proof that even you guys don't buy your own bullshit, anyone that thought a true abuser and pedo could get "better" is a fucking moron.We know you love your son/brother. We know you just want him to be happy. But he's not happy, he destroys people. He's an abuser, a groomer, a pedofile.
And again, what exactly do you want his parents to do about this? His personal sex life and how he treats his friends is none of their business or concern. Like can anyone here imagine? "Son, please stop banging bitches!" lolPlease don't blame yourself for any of it. It is not our intention at all. We are powerless. He needs to be stopped. Please, we beg you, as women, please, please, make him stop.
You guys have proved nothing except that he's a typical male feminist poly freak, and a self absorbed asshole. What "evidence" provided shows he's a loser that is beyond help, but it doesn't show he's a "pedofile, groomer, and abuser". Isn't this guy in the UK? Asking because you can sue for libel there much easier than in the USA, and you idiots have made some serious accusations with zero proof. Good luck to you if he decides to sue you.Below, you can find a little bit of proof of how he treated people, confirmed and proven by multiple of his ex-girlfriends and friends that he had hurt and replaced over the years.