Dave Hopkins - Furry Rape Fetishist

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I tried to read the "musical holes" story, and I got to a part where a furry offhandedly comments that one of the Twin Towers went to heaven, the other to hell. Like, the physical towers themselves, with all the dead trapped inside. With no explanation about how or why the buildings are in hell/heaven. Or if the towers had moralities and the evil twin went to hell.

This is it. This is it for me. Tomorrow never comes.
 
I tried to read the "musical holes" story, and I got to a part where a furry offhandedly comments that one of the Twin Towers went to heaven, the other to hell. Like, the physical towers themselves, with all the dead trapped inside. With no explanation about how or why the buildings are in hell/heaven. Or if the towers had moralities and the evil twin went to hell.

This is it. This is it for me. Tomorrow never comes.

What the fuck? How did we miss that? How could we have overlooked such stupidity?
 
What the fuck? How did we miss that? How could we have overlooked such stupidity?

What do you mean we?

Btw the Titanic is also in hell with all of its passengers. It's never clarified if these are only the passengers who died on the maiden voyage or if it includes those who died decades later. I guess every man, woman and child on the Titanic was pure evil. Who knew?

I think Dave is trying to imply that it's mostly the people who jumped from the towers that are in hell. So the hell tower is for the people who committed suicide and the heaven tower is for the people who died in the blast? I dunno, maybe? Suicide is a very hellable offense in Jack land. It's pretty much Dave's go-to way of getting otherwise good people into hell.
 
He's worse at hands and general anatomy than Dobson. Literally every part of his character designs are broken. Broken elbows, broken wrists, broken hands, broken faces... the list goes on to infinity. Look and marvel.




Don't forget the neck-boobs

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Remember Matt? Dave drew an arc where Matt made a cameo with some dolphins.

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A big problem a lot of people have with Jack is that it's characters are so cutesy-wootsy while everything else is so edgey-wedgie it doesn't have the same impact as if it were semi realistically drawn humans or whatever.
Ok so imagine the most intense, emotional story you know, and then replace all the characters with the frog in my avatar. Does it have the same effect on you as before? Probably not.

Also when people cry their eyeballs look like they're melting and that's funny.
 
A big problem a lot of people have with Jack is that it's characters are so cutesy-wootsy while everything else is so edgey-wedgie it doesn't have the same impact as if it were semi realistically drawn humans or whatever.
Ok so imagine the most intense, emotional story you know, and then replace all the characters with the frog in my avatar. Does it have the same effect on you as before? Probably not.

Also when people cry their eyeballs look like they're melting and that's funny.
I don't know man, Keroppi is just cutesy enough to be an edgy parody plus it would still be more believable than the melting neckboobs Dave draws.
 
His cutsey looking characters will never be appropriate for the kind story he wants to tell, but when he was worse at drawing his art looked rougher and uglier, it looked a tiny bit more appropriate for a horror story. now that he's somewhat improved his style they just look like soggy stuffed animals.

I actually think you could make a concept like this work, but Dave has neither the writing nor the artistic skills to pull it off.
 
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True, but he's been drawing long enough that he should be better than this. Unlike Dobson Dave actually has a passion for drawing. He just has no desire to improve.

A passion for drawing? Or a passion for drawing furry fap fodder? He certainly has no interest in learning basic drawing fundamentals, otherwise his character anatomy wouldn't be so messed up and his humans wouldn't look so abysmal. If he's passionate about anything it's rape, and jacking off to corrupted tiny toons. And Drip.

He has actually managed to improve over time but only at drawing the one same furry over and over.
 
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A passion for drawing? Or a passion for drawing furry fap fodder? He certainly has no interest in learning basic drawing fundimentals, otherwise his character anatomy wouldn't be so messed up and his humans wouldn't look so abysmal. If he's passionate about anything it's rape, and jacking off to corrupted tiny toons. And Drip.

He has actually managed to improve over time but only at drawing the one same furry over and over.

If you look at his artwork for Thebe and the Angry Red Eye you can see he's actually attempting to draw something decent. His focus is primarily on fap fodder, which is his main problem, but it's not all that he draws.

He could be a decent artist if he stopped trying to draw Tiny Toons with edge.
 
I don't think this guy ever went to art school.

You don't say?

His cutsey looking characters will never be appropriate for the kind story he wants to tell, but when he was worse at drawing his art looked rougher and uglier, it looked a tiny bit more appropriate for a horror story. Now that he's somewhat improved his style they just look like soggy stuffed animals.

He's gotten lazier, is what it is. His older comics, he seemed to at least be trying. The great white voids have pretty much taken over the comic backgrounds.
 
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Keroppi: Jack Edition
Sorry for the shit picture I'm in vacation. Now my grandma is gonna look through my sketchbook and see fucking grim reaper frog and she's gonna have a looot of questions
I love me some edgy frog drama.
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He's gotten lazier, is what it is. His older comics, he seemed to at least be trying. The great white voids have pretty much taken over the comic backgrounds.
Can confirm, I am lazy and my backgrounds are white voids. It doesn't help that he has a ton of people willing to kiss his ass for putting in minimal effort and are willing to give him money.
 
This is going to be one of Those posts.

When I first discovered Jack 15 years ago, was immediately fascinated by its dark take on the Christian mythology. I was very young at the time - too young to be reading a comic about sexual violence and brutal murder - and while religion was one of my bigger peeves, I found Jack's take on the Hell lore and the seven deadly sins very interesting. The evil deeds of the living may take a physical form in the afterlife, and the seven strongest "demons" in Hell were once the worst human beings (furries?) in life. How fucking cool is that.

To me, his comic reflected the cruelty if the world we live in ("bad stuff happens to good people") and the weaknesses of the humankind ("I was ordered to shoot those children, it's not my fault") while giving him a platform to deal with his inner demons. Dude has a lot of demons. Make no mistake, Dave is fucked up in the head, acknowledges it and tries to live with it. Since I'm fucked up in the head too, I can sympathize.

Do I think he fapped to someone's childhood trauma? ... No. Not yet, at least, because like CuriousBystander wrote, FC's story is fishy as hell.
He also enjoys gay bashing.

Ehh, it's a little unfair to judge the author for the actions of his characters. Stories need assholes to create conflict. Also, the second page you linked was (IIRC) written by Candy Dewalt and only illustrated by Dave.

I agree that the comic's writing has grown weak over the years, and hit an infuriating low point halfway through Megan's Run. I don't have the pages at hand, but the gist of them is that Megan recalls how the characters of Jack welcomed her into the cast of the comic. I wanted to flip a table.

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This is The Wall, a personal "therapy" project by Dave. It is some of the craziest shit you will ever see.
PINK FLOYD :heart-full::heart-full::heart-full: I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK I LOVE IT why is he fellating his fetish
 
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He went into damage control mode before she publicly came forward. He deactivated his FA account without letting anyone know what was going on, which seems very unlike him, and then he waited till the coast was clear (she was harassed off the internet) before sharing his version of events. Somewhere in his version of things, he's all "I really don't think she's a bad person", really? Someone who goes around falsely accusing people of masturbating to her traumatic child hood isn't a bad person? I agree that she comes of as kinda strange but I don't find her story very difficult to believe.
 
Call Dave whatever you want, but he ISN'T a gay basher. The second comic that CuriousBystander posted ends with the homophobic nurse becoming one of their BFFs forever forever and everyone is happy and everyone jerks off or something. I actually think Dave might be bisexual but that's neither here nor there.

Let me reiterate, I think Dave is a fucking moron with mental issues. I don't think he's some creepy homophobic internet rapist. I chalk this all up to furry drama.

Dave's issues on homophobia are... weird. Dave doesn't seem to hate gay people on any conscious level, but lesbians certainly get preferential treatment over gay men. The one arc that featured a gay male couple, one of the partners (Arty) had to reconcile with his gay-hating father after being told it wasn't his dad's fault for being a hateful bigot. The suffering on the other partner (Vinci) due to cancer was also a lot more gross-out than any woman in Jack that's ever gotten cancer. No female cancer patient in Jack has ever vomited all over herself. Vinci has.

Of course, Vinci and Arty aren't even Dave's characters. Very few gay male characters in Jack show up that aren't there to be the butt of some serious abuse. When they're not completely ignored, they're pummeled to demonstrate how bad some murderer is. Or they end up like Fangs, who's a self-hating homosexual who cuts off his dick and balls after being molested by his uncle and blaming him for his gay urges, and he still tortures women.

I don't think it's that Dave hates gay people so much as he's uncomfortable with them since they don't fit into his rapist/rape victim dynamic very well.
 
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Well, I dunno, man. Sue looked pretty messed up in "Suffer", and like somebody said I don't think the Vinci and Arty arc was even written by Dave. While Vinci and Arty aren't his characters, they're big ones and he doesn't seem to have a problem representing a healthy homosexual relationship in his comics. I understand what you mean and Fang is borderline offensive, but if it's any consolation I took the character as more as a stab at Atheists than homosexuals.

But Vinci and Arty appear to be the only loving male homosexual couple in the entire comic. Yeah, Sue was messed up in "Suffer," but she never lashed out in anger or was seen puking. She just cries and suffers in a way that looks "noble," I guess. She is pitiful. Meanwhile, Vinci is far more believable in his reaction towards his predicament; he tries to make jokes to ease the tension, but sometimes he gets fucking pissed at the horrible hand he's been dealt. Sue's basically a grown-up version of The Littlest Cancer Patient.

If Dave didn't write the arc with Vinci and Arty, that might explain Vinci and Arty's reactions being different from the typical Jack protagonists, but there's also quite a few parts that feel very much like Dave wrote them. The off-screen conversion of the homophobic nurse to suddenly being buddy-buddy with Vinci and Arty struck me as such.

But, yeah. Aside from Vinci and Arty (who are not Dave's characters), how many loving gay couples are in Jack? And out of those, how many are gay men?
 
I can't think of any gay male characters other than Fang and Vinci & Arty but I don't really see the problem with a webcomic (especially one like Jack) not having an absolute surplus of gay male characters. I get that it's tiring to see an overly sexual representation of gay and bisexual women by/for creepy straight men but that doesn't mean Hopkins is a homophobe. I just don't see it.

I'm not saying he's a homophobe, so much as I'm saying his lesbian/gay ratio is so out of whack. And the reason for it is pretty much because Dave can't spank it to two dudes doing it.

That's it. Gay dudes don't show up much in Jack because Dave can't masturbate to them raping women or being being raped.
 
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