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Zaslav is becoming more based per action.

Basically, after Batgirl & Supergirl, he just cancelled the Static Shock, Green Lantern Corps, & a Superman film by Ta-Nehisi Coates & J.J. Abrams. It's possible that he may be restarting DCEU from the scratch, by pretty much everything from before, maybe even the Flash film is on the chopping block.

One more thing mentioned in the article is from The Hollywood Reporter, which says:


Are these motherfuckers insane? They've barely limped their cinematic universe past origin stories, & just nearly started a multiverse & later cancelled them all, & they wanna do Crisis? Crisis is something you think about adapting 20 years, 6 phases, & about 3 tiers of cosmic beings (Darkseid was too early in ZSJL due to WB's fuckery, Nekron requires an arc, Neron isn't there at all, The Batman who Laughs isn't there even as a reference) into your storyline. Crisis should be the capstone to your universe, the ultimate teamup against the ultimate threat, the endgame, WB haven't earned the right to even LOOK in the Anti-Monitor's direction yet. Hell, even CW established some things in there garbage before going there. Crisis shouldn't even be used this way to begin with, it should be like Endgame, like all your actors aging out to the point CGI can't fix them & everything HAS to be reset.

In fact, now that I think about it, Zaslav is doing a real life, Crisis on Infinite IPs. Crisis on Infinite Earths was, in it's initial inception, an event to turn shitty writing into good writing by the combination of epic spectacle & "plot-justified" retcon. It exists as an ultimate irony. An event literally of strong unified direction designed both to sweep the previous lack of direction under the rug while simultaneously refusing to fix the ultimate problem at the roots of DC & why it had a complete lack of direction. In the end, it not only failed to fix the problem, nor did it successfully divorce the comics from their past, but it also became a template DC would go on to use as a crutch, believing that these resets had no cost among the fanbase & only served to reinvigorate the franchise. It's no wonder they're doing it again. Also, MCU did this too with No Way Homo, with Dr. Strange having a forget-it-all spell.
Anti-Monitor coming in right now would be like if Age of Ultron was Age of Beyonder instead
 
Evil Justice League/evil Superman has been done so much at this point that I'd like to see DC go at least 3 decades without resorting to that and the killing Superman trope again. Like 90% of stories coming from those two plotlines have sucked fat donkey dick. I'd argue that it's even 100%.
Except Justice Lord Superman has a cool aesthetic
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As for why WB hates Snyder so much, it's probably because he fucked up all their plans for an MCU-style shared universe. Granted, WB also mismanaged the hell out of it but Snyder clearly had ideas for a grand LOTR-style story starting from Man of Steel and all the way into Justice League and didn't much care for WB trying to start a big franchise.
I thought WB was the one who wanted BvS to happen sooner than it should to catch up with Marvel’s Civil War.
I believe the goal was to have Nolan direct the movies while Zack does visuals, but then Nolan left.

Clearly this universe went through development hell as they announced Batman V Superman like 3 years before it came out, and there was a three year gap between Man of Steel and other DCEU films. I cannot even begin to fathom what the goal was going into the cinematic universe as I posted earlier, nothing makes sense.

Technically Green Lantern was the starting point initially, but it would have bumped heads with Nolan’s universe the next year if GL was a success. If Man of Steel was in production around this time, the tonal shift of the universe would have made even less sense between GL and Superman. Also, how much influence did Zack have over things like Suicide Squad, as I know Wonder Woman had some input from him, but how does Box Office Suicide Squad fit into the bigger picture? WB just seemed to be throwing whatever at the wall in terms of films which is a blessing and curse. In the past and present, this lead to some unique DC pictures, but when making a universe, this was dysfunctional.
Nolan did not give a fuck about heading a DCEU. There's a reason why he only focused on Batman films; he was the most grounded of the lot. The Dark Knight was effectively a crime drama more than a superhero film. It's a little offensive to keep crediting him in these films as "executive producer".

And it end up really telling that Green Lantern was shit when it came out and no one cares about it anymore, thereby setting the stage for how the rest of this universe was going to end up.

It all just is a result of not having a fan of DC Comics leading the show. Kevin Feige was a fan of Marvel Comics and worked at Marvel Studios since the days of Blade and X-Men, so you can see a level of consistency there. Leaders keep being switched by Warner Bros., resulting in an all-out mess.

Zaslav can do what he wants with the DC live-action stuff. I checked out a long time ago. It's over. No amount of course-correction can fix this. They should have started off at least decently. They even have a fucking Black Canary film happening. Who honestly cares about Black Canary, let alone the entire Birds of Prey squad?
 
I thought WB was the one who wanted BvS to happen sooner than it should to catch up with Marvel’s Civil War.

Nolan did not give a fuck about heading a DCEU. There's a reason why he only focused on Batman films; he was the most grounded of the lot. The Dark Knight was effectively a crime drama more than a superhero film. It's a little offensive to keep crediting him in these films as "executive producer".

And it end up really telling that Green Lantern was shit when it came out and no one cares about it anymore, thereby setting the stage for how the rest of this universe was going to end up.

It all just is a result of not having a fan of DC Comics leading the show. Kevin Feige was a fan of Marvel Comics and worked at Marvel Studios since the days of Blade and X-Men, so you can see a level of consistency there. Leaders keep being switched by Warner Bros., resulting in an all-out mess.

Zaslav can do what he wants with the DC live-action stuff. I checked out a long time ago. It's over. No amount of course-correction can fix this. They should have started off at least decently. They even have a fucking Black Canary film happening. Who honestly cares about Black Canary, let alone the entire Birds of Prey squad?
There was a birds of Prey movie? I just remmber a Harley Quinn and her sidekicks movie. What Birds of Prey movie do you speak of?
 
Nolan did not give a fuck about heading a DCEU.
Yep, I think WB had blind faith that Nolan would just do it. In the end he was a small part of Man of Steel, at best, then fucked off.

It all just is a result of not having a fan of DC Comics leading the show.
I believe WB tried or may still be trying to have Geoff Johns of Green Lantern fame spearhead the universe. I guess his Batgirl project got cancelled though, but he still has Shazam and Green Lantern.

Zaslav can do what he wants with the DC live-action stuff. I checked out a long time ago. It's over. No amount of course-correction can fix this.
I won't say that. I believe Zaslav's projects are now being burned by Discovery, and the buy out seems to be a positive for DC as Discovery wants profits and is trying to clean house till only sequels to in-demand films are left. They have already shut down Batgirl and Supergirl's movies, so I want to see how far Discovery will go.
 
I thought WB was the one who wanted BvS to happen sooner than it should to catch up with Marvel’s Civil War.

Nolan did not give a fuck about heading a DCEU. There's a reason why he only focused on Batman films; he was the most grounded of the lot. The Dark Knight was effectively a crime drama more than a superhero film. It's a little offensive to keep crediting him in these films as "executive producer".
Added the fact that he was already busy trying to do Interstellar for WB (and also for Paramount after filmmakers such as Zemeckis turned it down for said latter studio), among other several projects.
 
Zaslav is becoming more based per action.

Basically, after Batgirl & Supergirl, he just cancelled the Static Shock, Green Lantern Corps, & a Superman film by Ta-Nehisi Coates & J.J. Abrams. It's possible that he may be restarting DCEU from the scratch, by pretty much everything from before, maybe even the Flash film is on the chopping block.

One more thing mentioned in the article is from The Hollywood Reporter, which says:


Are these motherfuckers insane? They've barely limped their cinematic universe past origin stories, & just nearly started a multiverse & later cancelled them all, & they wanna do Crisis? Crisis is something you think about adapting 20 years, 6 phases, & about 3 tiers of cosmic beings (Darkseid was too early in ZSJL due to WB's fuckery, Nekron requires an arc, Neron isn't there at all, The Batman who Laughs isn't there even as a reference) into your storyline. Crisis should be the capstone to your universe, the ultimate teamup against the ultimate threat, the endgame, WB haven't earned the right to even LOOK in the Anti-Monitor's direction yet. Hell, even CW established some things in there garbage before going there. Crisis shouldn't even be used this way to begin with, it should be like Endgame, like all your actors aging out to the point CGI can't fix them & everything HAS to be reset.

In fact, now that I think about it, Zaslav is doing a real life, Crisis on Infinite IPs. Crisis on Infinite Earths was, in it's initial inception, an event to turn shitty writing into good writing by the combination of epic spectacle & "plot-justified" retcon. It exists as an ultimate irony. An event literally of strong unified direction designed both to sweep the previous lack of direction under the rug while simultaneously refusing to fix the ultimate problem at the roots of DC & why it had a complete lack of direction. In the end, it not only failed to fix the problem, nor did it successfully divorce the comics from their past, but it also became a template DC would go on to use as a crutch, believing that these resets had no cost among the fanbase & only served to reinvigorate the franchise. It's no wonder they're doing it again. Also, MCU did this too with No Way Homo, with Dr. Strange having a forget-it-all spell.
That supposed news of Warned having a "20 year plan" and a Crisis movie on the works sounds manufactured to me, like twatter trying to claim there is a "massive" fan movement demanding the Batgirl movie's release, when in reality its probably like 20 faggots at most, I seriously doubt that the retards who clearley never knew what they where doing somehow had "le epic 20 year plan".

I like Snyder's take on DC but as Doctor of Autism said, WB acting like they had no choice is pathetic, they could have fired him on the very day he showed his MoS film to test audiences, yet chose to keep him for some reason we'll probably never understand
 
Last two panels are rather interesting to see in a comic. What's the rest of it like?
It's a non-canon anthology type with different characters & with around 20 chapters. I don't remember much, but I do know that one of the story arcs is Vixen id a godkiller in the 1st story & Red Hood actually has a somewhat good story about facing his demons (around the 10th & 11th issue, pretty much every story is 2 chapters), there's also something about John Constantine, but I don't remember.

As for this one, this is the very first page of the comic. BTW, this is not a spread, every page is like this. My the picture from my last comment are 2 pics stitched together.
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Also, the story is basically someone using blacks & their nigger moments to capitalise on. These are 3 pages I combined together to make as a comic page, due to how retard the blatant padding is, these 20 page chapters could just be at least 10-12 or less pages if done like this.
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Honestly, the villain is actually smart & actually villainous here. But this whole thing is such blatant politisperging retardation that I can't like this comic. I also feel like Supes is a bit OOC in this, but that's just me. Like here when he says the most non-Superman shit.
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Anyway, here's how it ends, it has 6 pages for something that could & should be done in 2 pages. I made 3 versions to prove this, & then another 2 versions just cause I can. This might equally, if not more annoying to me than the wokeshit.
> Top-Down to see how the scene goes without confusion.
> Normal comic version which goes Page-by-Page.
> West-East-Southwest, which speaks for itself. Just read Left, Right & Under Left.
> Manga version, which is the opposite of the 3rd version, cause why not.
> The comic version but inverted, because I was already making a manga version, so why not.
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Normal Comic Page-by-Page version. (↓↓↓↗↓↓↓)
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The West-East-Southwest version. Basically just like some (not all) newspaper comics. (→→↙→→↙→→)
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The manga version, I'm not calling this the East-West-Southeast version because anyone who knows what Manga is knows how to read this, those who haven't it's just the opposite of above (←←↘←←↘←←)
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Just a Normal Comic, but reversed. I'm kinda MATI to give a shit. (↓↓↓↖↓↓↓)
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It's a non-canon anthology type with different characters & with around 20 chapters. I don't remember much, but I do know that one of the story arcs is Vixen id a godkiller in the 1st story & Red Hood actually has a somewhat good story about facing his demons (around the 10th & 11th issue, pretty much every story is 2 chapters), there's also something about John Constantine, but I don't remember.

As for this one, this is the very first page of the comic. BTW, this is not a spread, every page is like this. My the picture from my last comment are 2 pics stitched together.
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Also, the story is basically someone using blacks & their nigger moments to capitalise on. These are 3 pages I combined together to make as a comic page, due to how retard the blatant padding is, these 20 page chapters could just be at least 10-12 or less pages if done like this.
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Honestly, the villain is actually smart & actually villainous here. But this whole thing is such blatant politisperging retardation that I can't like this comic. I also feel like Supes is a bit OOC in this, but that's just me. Like here when he says the most non-Superman shit.
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Anyway, here's how it ends, it has 6 pages for something that could & should be done in 2 pages. I made 3 versions to prove this, & then another 2 versions just cause I can. This might equally, if not more annoying to me than the wokeshit.
> Top-Down to see how the scene goes without confusion.
> Normal comic version which goes Page-by-Page.
> West-East-Southwest, which speaks for itself. Just read Left, Right & Under Left.
> Manga version, which is the opposite of the 3rd version, cause why not.
> The comic version but inverted, because I was already making a manga version, so why not.
View attachment 3706295
Normal Comic Page-by-Page version. (↓↓↓↗↓↓↓)
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The West-East-Southwest version. Basically just like some (not all) newspaper comics. (→→↙→→↙→→)
View attachment 3706294
The manga version, I'm not calling this the East-West-Southeast version because anyone who knows what Manga is knows how to read this, those who haven't it's just the opposite of above (←←↘←←↘←←)
View attachment 3706325
Just a Normal Comic, but reversed. I'm kinda MATI to give a shit. (↓↓↓↖↓↓↓)
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What a truly weird comic. I wish I had something more to say after you did all that rearrangement following my post, but really it just leaves a bit, "huh". It seems that it can't wait to get negative facts out about African Americans but only does so in order to dismiss or excuse it. I think?
 

Superman star Henry Cavill 'confirmed for Man of Steel 2' after Black Adam 'demands'​



Sorry MCUcks looks like you underestimated Znyder yet again. Like Batman, he always has a plan.
 
Big update

DC at a Turning Point: James Gunn Pitches Secret Movie, Dwayne Johnson Flexes His Superman Power (Exclusive)​

With the release of Dwayne Johnson’s Black Adam this Friday, and DC Films head Walter Hamada quietly ending his tenure in the coming days, DC is charting into truly unknown territory.

In fact, without a permanent leader to guide the stable of some of the biggest and best known pop culture characters in the world, DC is seeing a secret, but dramatic land grab amongst some of the biggest players in Hollywood.

Johnson is publicly touting his vision for a future Black Adam versus Superman movie, with his words stoking fan desires to see Henry Cavill return as the red-caped hero. Matt Reeves is plotting an expansion of his The Batman universe, while J.J. Abrams remains in the mix as well with his own plans.

And The Hollywood Reporter can exclusively report that James Gunn, the filmmaker behind Marvel’s Guardians of the Galaxy movies as well as Warners’ DC-based The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker, is angling for his own new DC project (or two).

Sources tell THR that Gunn and producer Peter Safran are in talks with Warners for a mystery movie, possibly more, that Gunn would tackle. (Safran is already in the DC business, being a producer on Shazam! and its upcoming sequel, as well as Aquaman and that movie’s sequel.)

Warners had no comment, but as one insider observes, a carving of the comic company’s intellectual assets is happening. “DC is definitely in play,” says this person. How much play may depend on your perspective from inside or outside the studio.

While it isn’t clear what hero or teams Gunn is targeting, and the writer-director would focus on a second season of Peacemaker first, the studio’s eyes are very much on Superman. Under Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav and Warner Bros. Pictures heads Michael De Luca and Pam Abdy, Warners has an intense desire to reprise the Cavill iteration of the hero. The project that would essentially be Man of Steel 2 is being produced by Charles Roven and is currently in a search for writers. (There is a wishlist, of course. And Christopher McQuarrie, the hand that guides the Mission: Impossible movies was on it. McQuarrie worked with Cavill on the 2018 installment, Fallout, but sources say no official outreach has been made nor may it be feasible, as the director is working on the next back-to-back Impossible installments.)



Johnson, however, has Superman plans of his own, and has been very vocal about his desire to make a Black Adam versus Superman movie, a desire he has only reiterated more frequently in the lead up to Adam. This comes as he talks up his “surprise” cameo at the end of Adam, with the actor all but stating that Cavill will appear. Insiders are wondering if those calls are intended to goose the movie’s opening weekend box office numbers or to maneuver Superman onto his own chess square, or perhaps both.

Whatever the case, Johnson is definitely at the center of Cavill’s return to DC, which was not without some drama of its own. Johnson’s manager is Dany Garcia, his former wife who is also his producing partner at Seven Bucks Entertainment. Garcia also happens to represent Cavill.

Superman, as well as Cavill, were not in the initial plans for Black Adam. The idea was hatched during a round of reshoots for the movie earlier this year, but the cameo was nixed by Hamada, the executive who for the last four years had tried hard to move DC beyond the era where one filmmaker, in this case Zack Snyder, had an inordinate amount of influence and could command an entire slate for years. Hamada had his own Superman plans, one of them involving introducing a Black Superman with a multi-decade-spanning story by writer Ta-Nehisi Coates.

After Hamada said no, Johnson went around the executive, turning to De Luca and Abdy, who gave it the thumbs up. A furious round of negotiating occurred before Labor Day, a deadline insisted by Warners, with the scene shot in mid-September.



Meanwhile, in Gotham City, filmmaker Reeves is quietly making his own expansion plans. Reeves is developing a sequel to his The Batman, which grossed a respectable $770.8 million worldwide when it was released in March. Already, a series spinoff focusing on Colin Farrell’s Penguin is on its way to filming next year. But Reeves is plotting more. The filmmaker is meeting with writers and directors to build out movies — yes movies, not just series — focused on Batman rogue’s gallery, both established and more obscure, with characters ranging from the Scarecrow to Clayface to Professor Pyg. All those projects are in the very early stages of gestation.

It is unclear where the Superman moves leave Abrams, who is still on track to produce Coates’ movie centered on the last son of Krypton. That feature would exist outside any larger DC movie continuity, much like Todd Phillips Joker movies. The mega-producer had a few setbacks when some of his DC shows — based in the supernatural corners of DC and featuring characters such as Constantine and Zatanna — were scrapped at WBD’s HBO Max streaming service. They are now being shopped to other streamers. But he is not out of the game and is yet another Hollywood power in the mix vying for a piece of the DC pie.

All of this takes place as Hamada, who did not attend the Adam premiere in New York Oct. 12, packs away the final personal effects from his Burbank studio lot office ahead of his last day some time this week. The executive is not even taking a producing deal with the studio, a move that is traditional amongst execs who are being let go but given a soft landing and a courteous “thank you for your service.” To many, that action speaks volumes about how rough the transition from the AT&T era to Discovery under Zaslav has been, including the controversial cancellation of the Batgirl movie in August.



And it takes place in the shadow of the utter failure of the search for a new leader. After months of searching, Zaslav came close to hiring executive-turned-producer Dan Lin for the role of DC chief, but talks fell through. Part of Zaslav’s intent for Lin was to act as the overseer of all things DC, both film and series, and he would have acted partly as a traffic cop amongst the IP.

For now, De Luca, who is known for his fanboy roots and displays a deep knowledge of esoteric comic lore, remains firmly in charge of DC. He greenlit Joker 2, has been making decisions on Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom and The Flash, and has been meeting with filmmakers. Rumors abound that his role could evolve into one with a more permanent and even exclusive oversight of DC. As for Johnson, last week he publicly expressed interest in helping guide the search for a DC boss.

“The best position that I could be for DC is one as an advisor, where I can help. I love DC. It’s in my blood,” Johnson told Variety on the Adam red carpet. “In the spirit of growing up with the DC Universe. I’m here to help in any way I can, including looking for and finding that right leader or leaders.”

That search marches on even as IP continues to be taken off the board by power players.

“Right now it’s the Wild West,” says one insider. “Everyone is trying to grab as much as they can. And this is exactly what happens in a leadership vacuum.”



One Warners insider disputes the idea of a leadership vacuum, saying the studio is not standing still and is moving ahead on several fronts, focusing on some of its A-list characters while planning and developing the wave beyond that. A scriptment for Wonder Woman 3 by Patty Jenkins is expected imminently and a script for a Flash sequel is already written — by Aquaman scribe David Leslie Johnson-McGoldrick — in case that movie, to be released June 23, 2023, does well. (The film stars controversial actor Ezra Miller, who in August met with Warners leadership after a string of arrests and bad headlines, and today pled not guilty to a felony burglary charge.) With Superman back on the active block, plus Reeves’ The Batman sequel moving forward, it puts the company’s big stars in the big-screen rotation.

De Luca and Abdy are said to want to more things in development, and more things on the runway ready to go, an opposite ethos from Hamada, who took a more targeted approach.

Johnson, for one, is keen on moving beyond DC’s A-list.

As he told the New York Times for a profile published Monday: “It’s the safer bet to continue to invest in the I.P. that the world knows. The Justice League — Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman. I understand that. But it took convincing to get the studio to look past the Justice League into the DC universe, and there’s some really cool characters there. You’ve just got to give it a shot and trust the investment.”

Key info
1. James Gunn has pitched a new DC movie, this would be his focus after Peacemaker season 2.
2. Man of Steel 2 is in the works, looking for writers and they want Christopher McQuarrie however unsure they can get him due to the back to back Mission: Impossible he is doing
3. Superman was not meant to be in Black Adam. Hamada said no, so Rock went behind his back to Luca and Abdy (heads of WB film) who said yes. Cameo was done last month.
4. Reeves is planning Batman spins offs, some ideas are Scarecrow, Clayface and Professor Pyg movies,
5. Unclear where Black Superman is at. His Constantine and Zatanna shows are being shipped to other streamers/networks
6. Script for Wonder Woman 3 is nearly done and the Flash 2 is already wrote by the Aquaman writers.
7. Head of WB films wants more movies in the works.

As a side note, Christopher McQuarrie along with Cavil did pitch a Superman and Green Lantern movies but DC said no.
 
Yeah but not sure what up with that version.
His comic look
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Lazlo Valentin or Professor Pyg is a deranged enemy of Batman, broadly considered to be amongst his darkest and most disturbing. Pyg is a twisted surgeon, obsessed with the myth of Pygmalion and notions of physical perfection. Due to this, he kidnaps Gotham citizens to horrifically transform into his obedient, "Dollotrons". Professor Pyg is also the leader of the Circus of Strange, a syndicate of circus-freak themed meta-human criminals.

If they are planning to make R rated horror movies out of Batman villains, he is honestly a good pick. Give it a low budget as in less than $20 million and i could see it doing well.
man, leave Constantine alone.

they've done nothing but rape John's character for the past 20 years now

Weird to make a follow up to a 17 year old movie, which did fine but wasn't a big hit and wasn't very close to the comics
 
The last DC movie I watched was the expanded version of BvS, jesus, I just wanted a cool superman movie and was denied of it all

(And reeve movies still sucks dick, we only got good superman movies in animated form)
 
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