Aren't the majority of Tim Burton films pretty much the embodiment of a Hot Topic ad? I mean these movies were tailor made for these jaded (even unbathed) emo and goth culture from the 90s onward
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marvlouslie
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Tim Burton and his obsessive goth style have been a disaster for the human race. He's more about style and less about substance
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On their own the Tim Burton Batman movies are good and their impact is great. But they're not good as movies that represent Batman.
I do like Tim Burton, but ever since the 2000s, he has been hit or miss.
I do like Tim Burton, but ever since the 2000s, he has been hit or miss.
I'd say since 1996 with Mars Attacks, his work has been mostly bad with some good, and his remakes are fucking awful (except for 2012 Franeknweenie, which was decent)
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Oh yeah 1996 is more accurate since Sleepy Hollow came out after Mars and wasn’t that good
I think his good stuff post-1996 were Big Fish, Corpse Bride, Sweeney Todd, and Frankenweenie.
I haven’t seen Wednesday and unsure about his Beetlejuice sequel
Though to go back to DC, it’s funny how The Flash really used Michael Keaton without understanding the appeal of his Batman films. It’s like having Adam West play Batman in a super serious and gritty film with none of his silliness to contrast it.
Okay. You clearly are a little obsessed with male genitalia there.
haha, fuck you too bud. But seriously. Hamm wrote the script. The 'aesthetic' was goth in both. Actually point out something beyond, I didn't like it because it was too garish for my taste?
Okay, so you hate everone of his films?
I mostly agree except his films basically resurrected Batman and are icons to this day.
If you paid attention to my post, I literally said "most," as in not all. Please read
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on one hand, I'm glad we finally have a JSA animated flick of some sort. on the other hand, I feel like Black Adam may have jumped the gun and introduced the JSA too soon because they're really more of something you have to build to. I'm a massive JSA fan and grew up collecting any of the JSA members I could find as action figures of some sort.
Did Black Adam screw up the DCEU? I can't answer that.
Did Black Adam screw up the DCEU? I can't answer that.
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I think the Justice League eliciting little more than a shrug from most people signaled the death of the DCEU.
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Even the "Snyder Cut" of Justice League was met with a rather big "meh" from everyone. If anything killed DCEU, it was that and his fanboys.
Superman/Batman did that. That movie is a slog, the cinema cut isn't any good, and the JL Whedon cut was such an abomination that it put an onus on the whole universe.
In all honesty it's not that Zach Snyder exists, his projects all made money. It's that EVERYTHING was twisted to serve that single movie series.
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I never did see bvS or the JL movie. Saw WW on a plane and wasn't impressed.
How the fuck did we get to the point where the Gunn Suicide Squad film was the best of the DC capeshit flicks in recent history, if we don't count Joker.
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BvS was popular with the DCEU faithful and people who think the grim, uber serious, asshole Batman who maims and kills people is the 'right' way to write his character. I've seen a lot of fans for the Ultimate Cut in particular.
But with and after Justice League, interest in the DCEU tanked, even among those who liked MoS and BvS. Aquaman was an anomaly, which led people to think that the franchise still had a chance, but, no, it was dead.
The Snyder Cut for JL was funny. People bitch and moaned about how much they wanted it released, then when they finally got it... nobody seemed particularly interested in it. I saw very little discussion about it. People assumed that 99% of what was wrong with the original cut was due to Whedon but then the Snyder Cut ended up being basically the same movie but longer. And even with the bloated run time, Snyder still couldn't competently tell a basic comic story of super heroes coming together to punch an alien.
But with and after Justice League, interest in the DCEU tanked, even among those who liked MoS and BvS. Aquaman was an anomaly, which led people to think that the franchise still had a chance, but, no, it was dead.
The Snyder Cut for JL was funny. People bitch and moaned about how much they wanted it released, then when they finally got it... nobody seemed particularly interested in it. I saw very little discussion about it. People assumed that 99% of what was wrong with the original cut was due to Whedon but then the Snyder Cut ended up being basically the same movie but longer. And even with the bloated run time, Snyder still couldn't competently tell a basic comic story of super heroes coming together to punch an alien.
marvlouslie
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I still have yet to see anything new Gunn has made. I've refused to ever since the "kid diddling joke" incident.
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I sincerely hope we just reboot the DCEU but keep Cavil as Supes and keep the decently cast actors.
I don't care which Green Lantern gets adapted as long as it's one of the ones before the N52.
Fuck, I'd love me a Justice League movie with the classic silver-age lineup.
Man, I watched the CW Flash/Arrow stuff until the big Crisis event finished with the death of Oliver. It wasn't perfect, but it was entertaining. I found the adaptation of a lot of characters to be hit or miss, but it never got too shitty. I saw some of Supergirl but I only watched it for J'onn. Legends of Tomorrow was kind of a guilty pleasure, but that's also because I just liked the CW Captain Cold.
Batwoman was a total miss. Saw some of the Vixen/Ray stuff and it was okay. Dunno why they made The Ray gay.
I think that, funnily enough, we could just cast Grant Gustin as a DCEU movie Flash and Amell as a DCEU Green Arrow and they'd be perfectly fine. Benoist is a fine enough Supergirl.
You know what, fuck it. Just transition all the prominent lead characters from the CW shows into the movies already. Noone would care about Batwoman, but we'd otherwise have a decent lineup.
I found the CW Crisis event to just be fun fanservice. Maybe a little too much fanservice, but it was nice of them to even get the Smallville Clark actor to cameo for a scene. Hell, the '90s Flash was the one who pulled a big sacrifice and they had him cornily thinking of Tina, his love interest from that show.
And having Oliver become The Spectre, only to sacrifice himself all over again. Fun stuff. I know The Arrow kinda just ticked the boxes for a Batman show but with Green Arrow and seemed to have moments where we'd have actors play a relevant character only to just walk off (lmao we had a Wildcat, until the actor just up and left the series abruptly).
CW's stuff was really hit or miss, but I kinda found it to be mostly enjoyable. The Lois and Clark Superman show was neat. I saw some of the Black Lightning stuff, but it didn't interest me as much. Probably because I'm not a fan of the character. Don't get me wrong, he's cool and has his place. Same with Vixen and Supergirl. I'm just not that big a fan of a lot of these.
I hear there's a Stargirl show. Wonder if it's watchable or if it's Batwoman-tier trash.
Also, on a side-note, anyone remember Gotham? That was also a sorta fun show.
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I liked the CW stuff at first but it quickly turned to trash. Too much, "waaah, you lied to me! I can never trust you again! waaah!" cheap drama by hack writers. Arrow was okay for the first two seasons but quickly nose dived in the third. Flash had a strong first season but each sequent season got a little worse, always returning to the well of 'Flash but evil' for the main plot; I think I gave up after season five. Legends of Tomorrow had a mediocre first season but a fun second season and then quickly went to shit, with every woman in history apparently being a lesbian who lusted after Sara Lance and other dumb shit like Einstein being a dumb ass who just stole his wife's ideas. I remember one scene where two male scientists try explaining a scientific concept to a female character and she goes, "ugh! mansplaining!"
The early casting was a strong point, though. I wouldn't mind seeing Gustin and Amell return.
I enjoyed Stargirl much more than the other CW shows and it remained consistently strong until the end. A shame it couldn't continue.
The early casting was a strong point, though. I wouldn't mind seeing Gustin and Amell return.
I enjoyed Stargirl much more than the other CW shows and it remained consistently strong until the end. A shame it couldn't continue.
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CW shit always turns into bullshit relationship drama to get women's panties wet (because they thrive on that shit). It got old really, really fast.
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iirc the writers for arrow moved over to flash, that's why arrow S3 started to suck (can't remember when the whole olicity shit started), flash S1 was good but then also started to suck. not fast as arrow, but that they had no idea what to do with the flash became more and more obvious (hence the shit going in constant circles, blowing up the cast for something NEW etc.).