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I have a feeling Blue beetle might be a bigger flop than Black Adam and Shazam 2. Why should DC fans be hyped for a movie that might not be canon in a James Gunn universe reboot? And Hollywood, of course, can't help themselves by turning off Latinos by shilling Latinx in advisement again. Encanto only found its audiences on Disney, plus, after Disney, pushed Latinx nonstop. The Latinx term, so, hatred, by Latinos, they didn't support Encanto in the theater.
 
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I have a feeling Blue beetle might be a bigger flop than Black Adam and Shazam 2. Why should DC fans be hyped for a movie that might not be canon in a James Gunn universe reboot? And Hollywood, of course, can't help themselves by turning off Latinos by shilling Latinx in advisement again. Encanto only found its audiences on Disney, plus, after Disney, pushed Latinx nonstop. The Latinx term, so, hatred, by Latinos, they didn't support Encanto in the theater.
I will give credit where it's due, the suit's not bad. Also, IDK why, but the guy reminds me of /pol/ Atreides from Game Awards.
 
I know DC has PTSD from the 1st Green Lantern movie but attempting a show for a third time instead of a film is bullshit. A Swamp Thing movie shouldn't take priority over the Green Lantern Corps. Considering Marvel hasn't debuted the Nova Corps you would think DC would try to get ahead.

I feel like Drew Goddard will end up directing Batman: The Brave And The Bold.
 
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I know DC has PTSD from the 1st Green Lantern movie but attempting a show for a third time instead of a film is bullshit. A Swamp Thing movie shouldn't take priority over the Green Lantern Corps. Considering Marvel hasn't debuted the Nova Corps you would think DC would try to get ahead.

I feel like Drew Goddard will end up directing Batman: The Brave And The Bold.
Hey remember when WB had a Swamp Thing TV show that had a full season made but got canned before the first episode even aired?

Or the fact that the reason we haven't had a proper Batman TV show so far is because WB thinks that Batman is for the big-screen only?

This company isn't known for having the brightest bulbs around running the show.
 
I know DC has PTSD from the 1st Green Lantern movie but attempting a show for a third time instead of a film is bullshit. A Swamp Thing movie shouldn't take priority over the Green Lantern Corps. Considering Marvel hasn't debuted the Nova Corps you would think DC would try to get ahead.
Despite that Green Lantern movie being ass, it at least didn't enunched the Green Lantern Corps. Like how MCU done to the Nova Corps in GotG One where they got mass suicided trying to block Ronan's ship. Or in Infinity War where the Russo Brothers or Sean Gunn couldn't be arse to bother showing the Nova Corps trying to stop Thanos from taking the Infinity stone they're guarding.
 
Hey remember when WB had a Swamp Thing TV show that had a full season made but got canned before the first episode even aired?

Or the fact that the reason we haven't had a proper Batman TV show so far is because WB thinks that Batman is for the big-screen only?

This company isn't known for having the brightest bulbs around running the show.
Swamp Thing was cancelled because JJ Abrams got signed to make Justice League Dark and wanted exclusive use of any of the characters. That's also why Constantine got kicked off the Arrowverse and discluded from the Sandman show. Things had changed by the time Keanu sequel was announced but I guess that's cancelled too now?

I've been looking for Swamp Thing and I'm kinda miffed it's not on HBO Max. I wonder if that has to do with licensing rights sold off for the 80s movies and tv shows, maybe someone else has a hand on distribution.
 
Hey remember when WB had a Swamp Thing TV show that had a full season made but got canned before the first episode even aired?

Or the fact that the reason we haven't had a proper Batman TV show so far is because WB thinks that Batman is for the big-screen only?

This company isn't known for having the brightest bulbs around running the show.
Swamp Thing was canceled for tax reasons, North Carolina promised a tax credit of $40M was if Swamp Thing filmed there however in reality WB only got $12M tax credit.


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I have a feeling Blue beetle might be a bigger flop than Black Adam and Shazam 2. Why should DC fans be hyped for a movie that might not be canon in a James Gunn universe reboot? And Hollywood, of course, can't help themselves by turning off Latinos by shilling Latinx in advisement again. Encanto only found its audiences on Disney, plus, after Disney, pushed Latinx nonstop. The Latinx term, so, hatred, by Latinos, they didn't support Encanto in the theater.
Encanto is a weird one, covid was hurting the box office there and it seems to have been a huge hit on Disney+ (unlike Lightyear or Strange World) but I agree Blue Beetle is in a weird place, to the point I think best thing they can do is delay it until after Aqauman 2 and do some marketing about it being the start of the new DCU.

However a Black Adam gross for Blue Beetle would be very good, because Blue Beetle has less than half the budget of that over budgeted piece of shit.
 
Swamp Thing was canceled for tax reasons, North Carolina promised a tax credit of $40M was if Swamp Thing filmed there however in reality WB only got $12M tax credit.
According to the article itself that was apparently debunked.
 
However a Black Adam gross for Blue Beetle would be very good, because Blue Beetle has less than half the budget of that over budgeted piece of shit.
Lets hope they actually attempt to promote the film. Play the trailer in front of the Flash. Save the Aquaman 2 trailer for Comic-Con.

Despite that Green Lantern movie being ass, it at least didn't enunched the Green Lantern Corps. Like how MCU done to the Nova Corps in GotG One where they got mass suicided trying to block Ronan's ship. Or in Infinity War where the Russo Brothers or Sean Gunn couldn't be arse to bother showing the Nova Corps trying to stop Thanos from taking the Infinity stone they're guarding.
Well at least they got that going for them. I don't despise the current slate but Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash and Green Lantern should all get movies. I don't mind shows after a movie like the upcoming Penguin series after Matt Reeves' Batman.

Lanterns should be the show that featured secondary Green Lanterns. Green Lantern Corps should be the movies with Hal & Jon.

Gunn did say he only announced part of his slate so let's hope he's cooking something good.
 
Well at least they got that going for them. I don't despise the current slate but Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash and Green Lantern should all get movies. I don't mind shows after a movie like the upcoming Penguin series after Matt Reeves' Batman.
This is what DC failed to do.

These guys are the true A-list* of DC and the ones and their worlds you should build any "typical" DC Universe around. All of them should've gotten a trilogy... more like two, since DC ultimately focuses on "solo heroes" over teams even if the Justice League and Teen Titans are big deals but not ground-up ensemble teams like the Fantastic Four or X-Men. Take it slow since you have endless stories for their solo films. Introduce Robin/Dick and Kid Flash/Wally in Batman and Flash early on. Then finally throw in extra films here and there focused on teamups (Supes/Bats "World's Finest", Wondy with them in a "Trinity" movie, a Flash/Lantern "Brave and the Bold"), the Teen Titans (Robin and KF join the NTT squad - Wonder Girl and other kid sidekicks feels superfluous compared to the development Dick and Wally got and NTT ground-up heroes already had), other minor teams and situations (now show your Shazams, Suicide Squads, etc.), and wrapping up with a Justice League film or event film (Crisises or crossover events formatted to films) after you've hard-established this foundation of the founding JL members.

If anything, the 'Phase' system Marvel has should translate even EASIER to DC because they had an even stronger roster of heroes that could function on their own but can become a modular franchise via the Justice League and a lot of other elements able to be tied into their worlds, wrapping up each phase nicely with an event in a specific JL film, and the inevitable reboot can be made logical with a Crisis on Infinite Earths and merely 'focusing' on a new universe in a now-established multiverse.

*and Aquaman and Robin, IMO. But lately I wonder if Aquaman would probably be better as "Martian Manhunter-tier" sticking as a permanent Justice Leaguer than a solo series header with how tough it is to freshen old/make up new plots for any solo book of his. I can easily see the five bolded heroes being known for prominent solo and team careers in the public eye in-universe, since they all have home cities and in Wondy's case her very mission involved going to Man's World and living in it, de-facto receiving a supporting cast and rogues' gallery - even a city eventually made for them, Gateway - to keep her in it both pre-AND-post-Crisis. But Aquaman's situation versus Wondy's is too inherently tied to his home realm of Atlantis and I can't see why he'd actively protect, say, New Venice over his kingdom under the sea when most of his solo adventures are set there, and the Justice League logically gives him reason to interact above water. And yes, I know he was raised on land up to whenever he begins his superhero origin and career. Robin for all his immense popularity since 1940 as THE kid superhero is at heart the deuteragonist of the Batman series and a part of that world alongside the true series lead of Teen Titans as a concept. I actually am shocked Dick Grayson - not "Robin", Dick - never became a big deal on his own since he's headlined anthology books and his own series for decades... I suspect it's because he bounces off others much better than a drama-filled solo book, and also not hyping "Nightwing" up enough as "Robin but GROWN UP!" Imagine the world where DC forced the Titans and Bat offices in the 80s to play nice and stress Nightwing as Adult Robin, able to truly function as an equal, in-sync fighting partner to Batman now he's all grown-up without the usual fears on child endangerment and kid soldier BS, yanno? Should've just given him a better-designed Robin costume and keep him that then.
 
Robin for all his immense popularity since 1940 as THE kid superhero is at heart the deuteragonist of the Batman series and a part of that world alongside the true series lead of Teen Titans as a concept.
Robin hate/disinterest is one of the big issues with cape movies, spanning all the way back to the Burton Batman. I don't know what it is, but the people working on the films seem to consistently have a disdain for him, and Batman Forever/Batman and Robin weren't really great showings for him. He has the potential to be a big player but they just don't want to use him.
 
Robin hate/disinterest is one of the big issues with cape movies, spanning all the way back to the Burton Batman. I don't know what it is, but the people working on the films seem to consistently have a disdain for him, and Batman Forever/Batman and Robin weren't really great showings for him. He has the potential to be a big player but they just don't want to use him.
The problem is pretty simple, every member of Bat family is just a different flavored Batman. They all have the same super power, having access to Batman's stuff. Their differences are basically just in personality and little else. What people tend get out of them is character drama and that can work great in a long format like tv or comic series where you can space it out but less in a movie.

What tends to make a compelling Batman media is the dective story. Batman is in his core a wierd detective solving wierd crimes done by wierd criminals. That's his selling point and why his rogue gallery is so excellent. Crimes are more about the criminals than the detective but the detective is the vessel for figuring all that out. Any extra character will take time away from other things witch can really be a big issue in a limited space of a movie. What would adding another Batman accomplish that the one Batman can't do by himself? Not much. You are better off using Alferd or Gordon because they have different operation styles to Batman and so open story lines Batman couldn't do by himself. Alferd is a highly skilled suport who knows about Bruce's secret identity but isn't able to join in actual physical fights. Gordon as an official law enforcement is able to work openly and has authority to arrest but is limited by law and doesn't know who Batman actually is.
 
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I don't think we'll see Brave And The Bold until Matt Reeves is done with his trilogy. Gunn said that each chapter is about 5 years so it makes sense to release it 2029 or 2030. No need to rush to a 2nd Batman franchise.
 
I don't think we'll see Brave And The Bold until Matt Reeves is done with his trilogy. Gunn said that each chapter is about 5 years so it makes sense to release it 2029 or 2030. No need to rush to a 2nd Batman franchise.
If that was the case don't think they would have announced it so soon. My guess will be before the Batman 3, maybe 2026 or 2027. I'm not even sure Matt Reeves plans a trilogy, he calls it a saga so could even see him make a 4th Batman movie if he wants and the box office does well.
 
If that was the case don't think they would have announced it so soon. My guess will be before the Batman 3, maybe 2026 or 2027. I'm not even sure Matt Reeves plans a trilogy, he calls it a saga so could even see him make a 4th Batman movie if he wants and the box office does well.
Reeves usually takes 3 years between films. The Batman 2 is in 2025 so in theory The Batman 3 will be in 2028.

2029 is the 90th anniversary of Batman I think so it makes sense to debut the new Batman that year.

Gunn seems to be teasing The Terrifics now.
 

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Robin hate/disinterest is one of the big issues with cape movies, spanning all the way back to the Burton Batman. I don't know what it is, but the people working on the films seem to consistently have a disdain for him, and Batman Forever/Batman and Robin weren't really great showings for him. He has the potential to be a big player but they just don't want to use him.
The problem is pretty simple, every member of Bat family is just a different flavored Batman. They all have the same super power, having access to Batman's stuff. Their differences are basically just in personality and little else. What people tend get out of them is character drama and that can work great in a long format like tv or comic series where you can space it out but less in a movie.

What tends to make a compelling Batman media is the dective story. Batman is in his core a wierd detective solving wierd crimes done by wierd criminals. That's his selling point and why his rogue gallery is so excellent. Crimes are more about the criminals than the detective but the detective is the vessel for figuring all that out. Any extra character will take time away from other things witch can really be a big issue in a limited space of a movie. What would adding another Batman accomplish that the one Batman can't do by himself? Not much. You are better off using Alferd or Gordon because they have different operation styles to Batman and so open story lines Batman couldn't do by himself. Alferd is a highly skilled suport who knows about Bruce's secret identity but isn't able to join in actual physical fights. Gordon as an official law enforcement is able to work openly and has authority to arrest but is limited by law and doesn't know who Batman actually is.
Other issues are time and practicality. Having a child fight bad guys works well in animation and comics, not so much in live action. There is also the problem that many directors only get 2 films with Batman. For Batman, you need a year 1 to establish things because Robin is the counter to Batman’s darkness, but many cannot get past set up as they only make 2 at most films, with Zach practically none. Nolan was the only one who could have done it, but Robin wouldn’t mesh well with the tone given the point above.
 
Reeves usually takes 3 years between films. The Batman 2 is in 2025 so in theory The Batman 3 will be in 2028.

2029 is the 90th anniversary of Batman I think so it makes sense to debut the new Batman that year.

Gunn seems to be teasing The Terrifics now.
They did say Brave and the Bold movies won't be within 6 months of The Batman ones. So very much could have The Brave and Bold 2 ready for then, if the first comes out in 2026 or 7, especially if they don't want the Robin actor to age too much between movies. Just to make note I agree it would be better to wait until the Batman movies are over, just don't see it.

Live action Plastic Man sounds like nightmare fuel, hope it's an animated project.
 
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