DC Comics Multimedia General - A crisis of infinite fuck ups

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The mention of Planetary (and a recent browse of my DC animated crap) did make me think of one thing they could probably get away with a live action version of without much effort. Zeta Project. Never an expanded DC property in terms of having a comic or a massive fanbase, female lead as the brains of the outfit, THE MAN is the bad guy, casting of any of the characters is largely irrelevant, very episodic friendly format.

That said I honestly think I'd prefer to see the original show runner actually get to wrap up his plans over a live reboot.
 
And if The Flash fails (which I know it will), will WB finally considering on firing Gunn?
 
TVBForever said:
And if The Flash fails (which I know it will), will WB finally considering on firing Gunn?
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why would they? it isn't one of his projects (he joined as part of the studio in late 2022, Flash has been in and out of development since 2014). Flash and the upcoming Aquaman are remnants of the Snyderverse
 
Was there really a Snyderverse? You can argue the only DC movies in that sphere were MoS, BvS: UE, Ayer's Suicide Squad, the first Wonder Woman, and ZSJL. MoS and WW were released without big production changes (excluding WW's third act). BvS had 30 minutes cut from its theatrical version, which made it a mess. Ayer's Squad and Snyder's League were reshot into what the studio executives thought would be better versions. All the other DC entries that followed moved away from elements of the Snyderverse along with retconning things from previous installments (see Diana not hiding in WW84 or why Black Adam was imprisoned by the Council of Wizards).
 
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The Nothingness said:
Was there really a Snyderverse?
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... yes? even if clumsily, shitily done, MoS, BvS, both WWs, Justice League, both Shazams, the Suicide Squads, Peacemaker, the Aquaman films, and Flash are obviously meant to be part of the same universe. If you looked hard enough you could undoubtedly find rectons and contradictions throughout the MCU.

The only thing in question, I guess, would be the 'Snyder' part of the name as he obviously lost influence after Justice League flopped and he stepped away for a while due to his daughter's suicide. Officially, it's always been the 'DCEU' but that's easily confused with the DCU (what Bruce Timm's animated universe was often called) and 'Snyderverse' is just catchier.
 
Tor Lugosi said:
... yes? even if clumsily, shitily done, MoS, BvS, both WWs, Justice League, both Shazams, the Suicide Squads, Peacemaker, the Aquaman films, and Flash are obviously meant to be part of the same universe. If you looked hard enough you could undoubtedly find rectons and contradictions throughout the MCU.
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Don't forget to add Birds of Prey, both WW movies and also the cancelled Batgirl movie, as they were also integrated (albeit also as clumsy) into the Snyderverse.
 
TVBForever said:
Don't forget to add Birds of Prey, both WW movies and also the cancelled Batgirl movie, as they were also integrated (albeit also as clumsy) into the Snyderverse.
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I completely forgot Birds of Prey existed. Given that it was Margot Robbie's vanity projects and it completely flopped, giving them another black eye, I wonder if WB is at all interested in having her return for Gunn's films.

Batgirl I'm not sure was meant to be part of the Snyderverse given that Micheal Keaton was meant to be Batman in it. I still wanna see it, though, just to see how bad a movie has to be for even WB to go "nah, let's just eat the cost and take the tax write off" for a nearly complete film.
 
Tor Lugosi said:
I completely forgot Birds of Prey existed. Given that it was Margot Robbie's vanity projects and it completely flopped, giving them another black eye, I wonder if WB is at all interested in having her return for Gunn's films.

Batgirl I'm not sure was meant to be part of the Snyderverse given that Micheal Keaton was meant to be Batman in it. I still wanna see it, though, just to see how bad a movie has to be for even WB to go "nah, let's just eat the cost and take the tax write off" for a nearly complete film.
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That's because when the first Sonic movie came out a weekend after, it completely defeated Birds of Prey at the box office. And then a month later, COVID happened, and both movies among others were placed onto digital streaming earlier than scheduled as a response to it and theatres closing down for a while.

Batgirl is debatable, but I'm still happy that was cancelled almost a year ago. Sure, WW (along with Aquaman and Shazam) was only a big win for the Snyderverse, but then three years later, WW1984 happened and it failed spectacularly and a potential third WW movie never happened as a process.
 
TVBForever said:
That's because when the first Sonic movie came out a weekend after, it completely defeated Birds of Prey at the box office. And then a month later, COVID happened, and both movies among others were placed onto digital streaming earlier than scheduled as a response to it and theatres closing down for a while.
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I doubt BoP would've done much better even if it had a more favorable release date. A lot of the DCEU did poorly at the box office, with (ironically) only Aquaman doing really well.
 
Tor Lugosi said:
I doubt BoP would've done much better even if it had a more favorable release date. A lot of the DCEU did poorly at the box office, with (ironically) only Aquaman doing really well.
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Like I stated, WW did phenomenal in 2017 and was the first shining light from DC and WB in a long time. Aquaman was not the only film to even tread such a success as that came out a year and a half after.
 
TVBForever said:
Like I stated, WW did phenomenal in 2017 and was the first shining light from DC and WB in a long time. Aquaman was not the only film to even tread such a success as that came out a year and a half after.
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Yes, it did well in 2017. By 2020 Endgame had released and even MCU films following that started to do poorly.

As far as I'm concerned, a film titled Birds of Prey (and the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn) was always doomed to failure. It was largely marketed as some sort of breakup movie between Harley and Joker initially and was mostly ridiculed online before and after its release.
 
Tor Lugosi said:
Yes, it did well in 2017. By 2020 Endgame had released and even MCU films following that started to do poorly.
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Endgame actually came out a year prior in 2019.
 
Tor Lugosi said:
I know, that was my point -- that Endgame had been released by then.
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But was that really you're point? Because you started off talking about the Snyderverse being a failure (which I agree with you on)
 
TVBForever said:
But was that really you're point? Because you started off talking about the Snyderverse being a failure (which I agree with you on)
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???

Then we started specifically talking about whether or not Birds of Prey would have done better with a better release date. I pointed out that after Endgame even MCU films started doing poorly, thus a film titled Birds of Prey (and the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn) with its very shitty marketing was always going to do poorly.
 
Tor Lugosi said:
???

Then we started specifically talking about whether or not Birds of Prey would have done better with a better release date. I pointed out that after Endgame even MCU films started doing poorly, thus a film titled Birds of Prey (and the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn) with its very shitty marketing was always going to do poorly.
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Because both WB and Disney are desperate for more audiences, but even the same audiences have moved on. Things do not last forever.
 
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