I may sound a bit optimistic here, but I'm hoping that Todd Philips could use that in the first act
DC Comics Multimedia General - A crisis of infinite fuck ups
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I wonder how many of the songs are going to be written by her.
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I’ve always been a firm believer that Batman and Superman suffer most from the shared universe angle, Superman loses his competence and either becomes a punching bag to hype someone up or he becomes the muscle and nothing more.
Batman on the other hand gets Reed Richards-level intellect and Iron Man suits to keep up.
Both of these ruin two great characters who exist best in a bubble, on their own and mostly self-contained.
Superman on his own becomes a lot more flawed and less idealistic than he comes off (the boy-scout thing is mostly an act) and Batman is allowed to be a lot more gritty and the stakes become a lot more serious when you know he can’t just blow a dog whistle that’ll tell big blue that he’s in trouble.
That’s where Gunn’s nonsense will fail, forcing these garbage characters (which are the ones he actually cares about, I refuse to believe this faggot pedophile hipster likes Superman) automatically reduces Superman, who shouldn’t have to share spotlight in his debut fucking film, least of all with the other black science guy and Gay Gardner.
They should’ve just kept Batman and Superman in their own self-contained universes, with their own styles and rules.
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Superman suffers from competence problems even without Batman's presence, there are way too many Superman supporting characters that exist sorely to do the mind-work for him. That being said, a Superman film sharing the spotlight with like two dozen other heroes is retarded.
Batman being exceptional isn't really a problem, you can have multiple exceptional heroes, if anything nowadays he too suffers from the issue of writers trying to put him down to prop up their own pet Bat-characters. Tynion is especially notorious for this shit.
Once again, I have no fucking clue what people see in this shit. It's Taxi Driver but with less depth, it's Falling Down but not as amusingly horrifying. It features "Joker" in name only. I suppose at the very least it will be an effective cure for insomnia.
Except its predecessor from five years prior had already influenced Taxi Driver (as well as King of Comedy). I mean yes, it sounds dumb for sure, but this isn't me saying it. Todd Philips claimed so otherwise.
Don't shoot the messenger
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Give me my god damn Azrael movie NOW
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Not to be mean, but your reply is just stating the same information as who you replied to. He is stating why he didn't like the first one, because he feels like it is a cheap imitation of those movies, thus finds it's hard to understand why people care about the new one.
Don't worry, you're not mean here. I actually didn't describe my post enough and I was implying that the first one had already influenced Taxi Driver and that the new one that's coming out have continued on with it, but isn't gelling well with the Broadway musical aesthetic, which also makes me worry about a Joker sequel a lot more
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If WB announced a DC Monkeys animated movie after this. I assume WB is learning all the wrong lessons, which is why the monsterverse is more popular and profitable than the DCEU.
So it's going to be like the DC Super Pets movie, right?
If WB announced a DC Monkeys animated movie after this.
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Detailed DC rumors and buzz from retailers who have comics distribution connections. Somewhat believable with recent WB/DC comics . DC wants to do the ultimate marvel universe but more political and gay without all the edgy politically incorrect violence.
This is DC's preparation for a long-term solution to the problem of no longer solely owning all versions of their characters.
The "Absolute Earth" line (possibly referred to as "Earth-A" to avoid conflict with the countless numbered universes) will not line up with the plans that James Gunn has for DC on film, whereas "DC All In" will. Apparently, "All In" refers to synergy among various media.
Absolute DC books will be limited to solo characters for a time and will radically reimagine some of them. That's not my choice of words, it's the word my comic guy said was used. Johnston used similarly strong wording in his story.
Because the intent is to develop a new universe that would more easily exist in light of expired copyrights, expect changes in characters' ethnicity, sexual identity, and powers.
Green Lantern and Flash will be among those most changed from the versions we know today. Think the SA approach to those same characters but perhaps as radically different as Tangent.
First books released include Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, and the debut of new characters or old characters repurposed for the new universe.
As Johnston said, Waid is involved but so too are John Ridley, Ta-Nehisi Coates, Gail Simone, Tom King, Tom Taylor, and Grant Morrison.
Superman will likely receive a new ethnic background, with Coates adapting his Superman film ideas for the Earth-A version of the character.
Wonder Woman's origin will be heavily tweaked, rooted in Native American mythology instead of Greek.
Bruce Wayne will likely be of mixed heritage and will possibly also be gay or bisexual.
The buildup to the Justice League will take a while, perhaps months or even a year's worth of stories.
Grant Morrison is involved in some way with the Wonder Woman revamp, possibly writing and approaching the character the way he did Superman in the New 52.
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Okay, but which one? They do know Native American tribes likely had their different mythologies, right? Right?!
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This, this why that company deserves what’s coming. It’s cute they think this will go on for years.
Mess with the Kent and I’ll you see you bent
Mess with the Kent and I’ll you see you bent
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In the 80s and 90s back when back ass Native American warrior characters were popular in pop culture. Now native Americans can only be welfare drug addicts on television.
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This sounds awful. I know DC likes to reboot every few years for some reason, but this will crash and burn. At least Ultimate Marvel kind of gave people what they want. Like who is their market for this? Is there a market for gay hapa Batman? Like you have a small market, and what to do something that will only be read by a smaller portion, of that small market.
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For anyone who wants a (mostly) good story from DC, Bat-Man: First Knight has been decent so far. It’s set in 1939 and has a good pulp storyline, without ludicrous gadgets or multiversal nonsense. There’s a weird bit of Batman confiding in a rabbi, but I honestly don’t think it’s meant to suck off circumcised cock since the rabbi yells out in Yiddish like an old Mel Brooks comedy. Bonus points for it being a 3-issue miniseries with beautiful art, plus I’m a sucker for Batman’s first appearance costume with the purple gloves…
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It’s by Dan Jurgens I’d like to preface, he’s the best Jew, Dan is one of the few pros still at DC who is definitely /ourguy/ and I enjoy seeing him still getting work.
Him and the rest of the Triangle team ushered in the last, great era of Superman.
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Very excited about what "various media" could be... perhaps they can replicate the success of the Suicide Squad game. I hope they go absolute full retard with this.
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Personally I was hoping for something entirely different. I thought the first one sucked, but didn't dislike it. Just wasn't what I wanted and far too derivative of other movies just with Batman iconography. I wanted a fuckin joker movie this time.
I was hoping for this one to sort of rip off the ending of fight club (the book) and run from there into an actual joker movie. the ending of fight club has the protagonist in jail/mental hospital (can't remember read it in high school) and he basically thinks it's all over and a guard/orderly guy walks over and is like don't worry boss we're getting you out of here. Just you wait. Project Mayhem continues.
basically it opens with the same thing. he's in Arkham doing fuck all and random staff and inmates are like hey boss how's it going and passing him random shit here and there, favors, gives him some books on explosives and chemicals. Anarchist cookbook shit. you're not sure if its real or not. same thing goes for Harley. his psychiatrist who keeps making weird passes on him and you're not sure if its delusions or she wants him.
Eventually crazy breakout scene occurs Harley is also in on it with some othet staff and wants to be his woman and causes the riot to get him out. next thing you know he's taken to some abandoned shithole in the city and has a militia of Jokerz made up of randoms, alongside some former arkham staff & inmates who think he's some sort of criminal mastermind and their boss now.
he then spends the second act overwhelmed as fuck, freaking out, and slowly through Harley and random crimes, now not being the little guy anymore for the first time getting drunk on power and control. Harley slowly deteriorates into being him from the first movie but under his thumb. something happens, he beats the living fuck out of Harley saying the same shit people said to him in the last movie, then the next cut is him walking out in the classic purple suit set to psycho killer, joker gang dancing all over the city and shit
movie climaxes with joker, harley, & their gang releasing poisons and blowing up rich people and innocents alike fuck the collateral damage. I don't care how it ends after that. I walk out the movie, say well, I'm the joker baby and proclaim it the greatest movie of all time. Incels all over cheer, it crosses the 3 billion dollar mark. DC made a movie that didn't suck.
basically it opens with the same thing. he's in Arkham doing fuck all and random staff and inmates are like hey boss how's it going and passing him random shit here and there, favors, gives him some books on explosives and chemicals. Anarchist cookbook shit. you're not sure if its real or not. same thing goes for Harley. his psychiatrist who keeps making weird passes on him and you're not sure if its delusions or she wants him.
Eventually crazy breakout scene occurs Harley is also in on it with some othet staff and wants to be his woman and causes the riot to get him out. next thing you know he's taken to some abandoned shithole in the city and has a militia of Jokerz made up of randoms, alongside some former arkham staff & inmates who think he's some sort of criminal mastermind and their boss now.
he then spends the second act overwhelmed as fuck, freaking out, and slowly through Harley and random crimes, now not being the little guy anymore for the first time getting drunk on power and control. Harley slowly deteriorates into being him from the first movie but under his thumb. something happens, he beats the living fuck out of Harley saying the same shit people said to him in the last movie, then the next cut is him walking out in the classic purple suit set to psycho killer, joker gang dancing all over the city and shit
movie climaxes with joker, harley, & their gang releasing poisons and blowing up rich people and innocents alike fuck the collateral damage. I don't care how it ends after that. I walk out the movie, say well, I'm the joker baby and proclaim it the greatest movie of all time. Incels all over cheer, it crosses the 3 billion dollar mark. DC made a movie that didn't suck.
I've dug it so far. I wish it was a little more grounded, but those early stories weren't anyways so it doesn't matter. I love Dan Jurgens, and there's a little bit of odd current yearisms like a weird reference to America First, and the jew bashing pre world war 2 shit comes across as an attempt to be relevant with today's perceived anti-Semitism but it's written well and a Batman story first. I wouldn't call it pandery.
The comics were always political guys have sort of a point but their problem is they're defending total dogshit that exists to be political propaganda and tell you what to think. Not stories that have political themes or elements but are a story first. This is that. I'm reading a Batman comic to see Batman do Batman shit. not get a lecture. I can see the writer's POV but it's still just the conduit to give Batman shit to do.
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