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What the FUCK what that episode with her and Killer Croc even
That episode got uncomfortable, but I guess I understand it now that I'm older and have had time to think about it. Baby-Doll was a grown woman who looked like a little girl. Can you imagine how fucking lonely that would be? Almost no guy would go for you because he'd be creeped out by the fact that you look like a 6 year old and people would think he's a pedo. And the only guy who might actually go for you would be a degenerate pedophile, a person you'd never want to indulge or even be around because they're morally repugnant. She'd basically resigned herself to a life of being alone. Then she saw Croc on the news and got it into her head that he was a kindred spirit, another unlovable, lonely freak. When Croc feigned interest she thought she'd finally found someone that she had things in common with and that she would never be alone again.
And then it turns out the asshole was just using her for whatever he could get while stealing from her and cheating on her with random floozies. And she just lost it and planned to kill herself, him, and a large chunk of Gotham by overloading the power plant.
It was also a sad episode, but goddamn did the fact that she's supposed to look like a little girl (And dresses and acts like one) really make you feel squicky for watching it. And you kinda gotta look at BTAS Killer Croc side-eye now because that motherfucker dated a woman who looked like she was 6.
 
One jarring moment from the first Baby Doll story was the monologue where she quickly goes from speaking in a voice that sounds like an over-the-top young Cindy Brady-style sort of tweeness to that of a sad, beaten-down woman, and the cracks in her treacly sitcom moppet facade are revealed, especially that close-up where you see she does have age-lines in her face. The second story deals with her trying to make a go of acting and dressing her actual age, but she still gets gawped at like a freak. Timm said in an interview that when they tried to create new villains for BTAS, like Baby Doll, they were always attempting to create distinct Batman villains, with weird or cool visual gimmicks and strange psychological twists. Partly, with Baby Doll, he said in this interview, he thought it interesting that Dini had come up with a twist on the damaged former child star gone bad, of which there had been any number of real-life examples who had gone bad in very public ways in the years before Baby Doll was developed.
 
Am I the only one who really enjoyed Harley's new creation story? Instead of falling for the Joker, she's a pissed off psychologist who gets mad that these rich men keep paying her and making no progress just to hear themselves talk, so she "heals" them? Also, the new costume has a nice Golden Age vibe to it.
 
Everything Bruce Timm does, more and more shows that Paul Dini was the talent and Timm is nothing more than a hack fraud with a strong right hook, if you catch my drift.
This has been the sexy new galaxy brain take since the Killing Joke adaptation got everybody all buttmad. Keep in mind that Paul Dini had very little involvement with the JL/JLU-era DCAU, so unless you somehow think all that stuff sucked, nah. Timm's JL: Gods and Monsters was also way better than what their animated movie department has been churning out as of late.

It was always a team effort, though it's true that Bruce Timm seems to need other writers to make things work. Paul Dini's talented, but they had other talented writers, even from the beginning, and they managed to get along fine after he left. And even Paul Dini does fumble, sometimes.

tbh I think most of what the old DCAU crew has been working on for the last decade or more is pretty much crap, but I dunno who to blame. Maybe they "lost it", maybe the talent's spread too thin, maybe they're suffering from managerial retardation imposed by WB, maybe all of the above. I don't think it was ever a matter of one or two guys being the "real talent" and carrying all the others, though.

Timm's portion was artistic.
I think he has few script credits, but a lot of "X and Bruce Timm" story credits. He was always the major decision-maker on the Big Idea level, afaik. He didn't do all of the character designs himself.

I'm only a couple episodes into Caped Crusader, but I dunno guise, seems pretty good to me. Can't even tell you how much I prefer this kind of take on Batman compared to Batgod, the most powerful Justice Leaguer. I wish Superman got something like this instead of that deviantart bait thing.
 
This has been the sexy new galaxy brain take since the Killing Joke adaptation got everybody all buttmad. Keep in mind that Paul Dini had very little involvement with the JL/JLU-era DCAU, so unless you somehow think all that stuff sucked, nah. Timm's JL: Gods and Monsters was also way better than what their animated movie department has been churning out as of late.
JL/JLU? You mean endless batwank, Superman getting humiliated and that hack Dwayne Mcduffie letting his self-insert run wild?

Yes, it sucked, all of it. BTAS, STAS and Beyond are all that mattered from the DCAU.
 
I'm still mad that we'll probably never get a decent series about The Question.
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I loved the DCAU version of him because they somehow managed to blend the original version of him as written by his creator Steve Ditko of being an objectivist with the version of him being a paranoid conspiracy schizo so well. And being voiced by Jeffrey Combs was just chef's fucking kiss.
We will never get a gritty noir about the question and his schizo theories.

Why even live?
 
This has been the sexy new galaxy brain take since the Killing Joke adaptation got everybody all buttmad. Keep in mind that Paul Dini had very little involvement with the JL/JLU-era DCAU, so unless you somehow think all that stuff sucked, nah. Timm's JL: Gods and Monsters was also way better than what their animated movie department has been churning out as of late.

It was always a team effort, though it's true that Bruce Timm seems to need other writers to make things work. Paul Dini's talented, but they had other talented writers, even from the beginning, and they managed to get along fine after he left. And even Paul Dini does fumble, sometimes.

tbh I think most of what the old DCAU crew has been working on for the last decade or more is pretty much crap, but I dunno who to blame. Maybe they "lost it", maybe the talent's spread too thin, maybe they're suffering from managerial retardation imposed by WB, maybe all of the above. I don't think it was ever a matter of one or two guys being the "real talent" and carrying all the others, though.


I think he has few script credits, but a lot of "X and Bruce Timm" story credits. He was always the major decision-maker on the Big Idea level, afaik. He didn't do all of the character designs himself.

I'm only a couple episodes into Caped Crusader, but I dunno guise, seems pretty good to me. Can't even tell you how much I prefer this kind of take on Batman compared to Batgod, the most powerful Justice Leaguer. I wish Superman got something like this instead of that deviantart bait thing.
JL/JLU? You mean endless batwank, Superman getting humiliated and that hack Dwayne Mcduffie letting his self-insert run wild?

Yes, it sucked, all of it. BTAS, STAS and Beyond are all that mattered from the DCAU.

It wasn't as good and yes, Timm's the artist, Dini's the writer. Paul the guy that made things tight and structured and deep. Something like Heart of Ice? Or Mad Love? That's very Paul. As for Batwank? That depends. JLU came at the end so it's literally got to be dissected episode by episode.

Some it really hasn't stood up and some of it is unintentionally good. The episode Patriot act is cringe, black lady lecturing Shaggy Man. But then there is a great speech from Shining Knight AND....

That speech would apply as equally to a United States soldier, say, invading a state of peaceful people and burning it to the ground because they seceded. It's one of those preachy moral speeches that they wrote not really thinking about it.
 
Some it really hasn't stood up and some of it is unintentionally good. The episode Patriot act is cringe, black lady lecturing Shaggy Man. But then there is a great speech from Shining Knight AND....
Patriot Act is a good example of how uneven the third season of JLU is. It was a good idea that works even better when you think about it more, but executed ham-fistedly. But it also has some nice character moments as a callback to a DC classic team.

JL/JLU? You mean endless batwank, Superman getting humiliated and that hack Dwayne Mcduffie letting his self-insert run wild?

Yes, it sucked, all of it. BTAS, STAS and Beyond are all that mattered from the DCAU.
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We will never get a gritty noir about the question and his schizo theories.

Why even live?
Once AI technology is good enough we can just make our own. We all know Q would spend half his time on the Farms.
 
Does anyone have the link to the original Snyderverse two part Justice League synopsis? The one with cucked Superman?
 
Making my way through Batman Animated, just finished season 2. Seems like the people who say "stop when you hit New Batman Adventures" are leaving out how big classics like Never Fear, Legends of the Dark Knight, and Mad Love are actually part of that season. So no, I'm not stopping there even if the art change is jarring and blatantly a cost-cutting measure.
 
I find dc has a way superior mythos and more intresting charecters compared to marvel. However because of shit management by the higher upps the true vision of dc comics has never been done properly.
 
a grown woman who looked like a little girl.
i know the show came out 30 years ago but damn, did no one know about asian women back then?
she's a pissed off psychologist who gets mad that these rich men keep paying her and making no progress just to hear themselves talk, so she "heals" them?
thats actually a pretty amazing backstory, it truely feels "vintage" in a way i wouldn't have assumed you'd be allowed to make nowadays when the common refrain to anyone rich or poor is "therapy!", especially when we're starting to see people question all these weirdos who go to therapy for 30 years and never changing. Reminds me of that disney channel original movie about a boy with aspergers and they absolutely don't baby it or celebrate it at all, and straight up treat it like the worst disability you could have.

the fact that is such a 90s backstory is cool, like maybe that idea was already on the backburner if DC said no to joker having a girlfriend.
 
Making my way through Batman Animated, just finished season 2. Seems like the people who say "stop when you hit New Batman Adventures" are leaving out how big classics like Never Fear, Legends of the Dark Knight, and Mad Love are actually part of that season. So no, I'm not stopping there even if the art change is jarring and blatantly a cost-cutting measure.
While it went a little far in some places, I actually think there's a lot to like about the art style change for TNBA. It also fits the colder mannerisms of that era of Batman - everything is sharper, smoother, more black-and-white and less complex.
 
Making my way through Batman Animated, just finished season 2. Seems like the people who say "stop when you hit New Batman Adventures" are leaving out how big classics like Never Fear, Legends of the Dark Knight, and Mad Love are actually part of that season. So no, I'm not stopping there even if the art change is jarring and blatantly a cost-cutting measure.
As jarring as it is, God did they ever knock it out of the park with Scarecrow's redesign. Getting Jeffrey Combs to voice him for the season was great too.
 
Does anyone have the link to the original Snyderverse two part Justice League synopsis? The one with cucked Superman?
While it's filled with a ton of College Course 101 philosophy and hamfisted DC Comic references, I DID find what you speak of in t-shirt form! One where Snyderfags can wear Bat-jizz loud and proud! In fact, this was one of the pieces of evidence that made people realize Snyder's plot for his 'verse was.... actually terrible and yet again sucking off Batman because he's the coolest toughest hero EVER, rite guise?!

I do maintain that the Snyderverse was the cumulation of WB and DC's obsession with "grimdark" and obsession focus on Batman as their bread n' butter coming to a terrible - possibly permanently-damaging - climax for them.
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AI technology is good enough we can just make our own. We all know Q would spend half his time on the Farms.
I remember having that discussion with a coworker and he also mentioned Question being a lolcow enthusiast. I threw out Lex as a shitlord, I could totally see Lex making anti-Superman threads hourly, or having a bot doing it.

Not DC but Doctor Doom as well, definitely, like that of any supervillain being /ourguy/ it’s Vic.

“Bet Reed Richards has the molecular consistency of rubber too and cannot maintain an erect, solid state. Jokes made about his anatomy are illogical and crude, without scientific proof. He clearly has to be poured into his jumpsuit to be solid, BAH! That fool cannot pleasure Susan, science decrees it!”
-anon
 
Making my way through Batman Animated, just finished season 2. Seems like the people who say "stop when you hit New Batman Adventures" are leaving out how big classics like Never Fear, Legends of the Dark Knight, and Mad Love are actually part of that season. So no, I'm not stopping there even if the art change is jarring and blatantly a cost-cutting measure.
Anyone who tells you to skip New Batman Adventures is telling you to deprive yourself of the great episode that is Over The Edge, and you can tell that person to fuck right off.
 
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