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@el bandito loco you clearly know more about Superman than is healthy so I have to ask, what's the best or really goodish "mundane" Superman story? As in not one of the Famous Big Name Important Ones everyone always references like What Ever Happened To or whatever, but a regular issue or TPB/arc off the rack that you absolutely love because it's definitely awesome and would recommend to anyone who wants a cool Supes book to read?
 
wasn't even his dog, they couldn't even get that right.

and on the subject of that, I'm sorry and I know pretty much without a shadow of a doubt I'm the only person to complain about this, but that movie character assassinated Krypto.
Yep, hurting his dog made perfect sense but that would be too evil in current year, hence why it's safe edgy at best. I'm a dog owner and that dog was terrible and embarrassing for anyone who knows about the topic (just like the rest of the movie!).
 
It wasn't even his dog, they couldn't even get that right.
Sorry, I was joking there.
and on the subject of that, I'm sorry and I know pretty much without a shadow of a doubt I'm the only person to complain about this, but that movie character assassinated Krypto. It's not just that movie, I've seen it done other places too in recent years, but contrary to what you're led to believe by this shit, Krypto is not just a dog. he's a fully fledged character. For the majority of his appearances and history, we get his internal monologue. granted I don't want a movie where we get voice overs from super dog, but I hate they made him a total joke.
It felt like they made Krypto Kara's dog to justify why he's so uncontrollable, only to give audiences a bad first impression of Supergirl as a reckless alcoholic before her own movie hits theaters.
 
@el bandito loco you clearly know more about Superman than is healthy so I have to ask, what's the best or really goodish "mundane" Superman story? As in not one of the Famous Big Name Important Ones everyone always references like What Ever Happened To or whatever, but a regular issue or TPB/arc off the rack that you absolutely love because it's definitely awesome and would recommend to anyone who wants a cool Supes book to read?
Man there's tons of them but most are uncollected in favor of recollecting the same like 4 books over and over. A favorite period of mine is Joe Kelly on Action Comics. 783 is one I like a lot, it's got wonky ass early 00s cartoon art but it's a good issue. Its right after worlds at war so the earth is fucked after an intergalactic war and half of the dialogue boxes are an article Clark is writing about hopelessness and shit and the other half are him as Superman talking to someone.

It kinda depends on what you're looking for though, if you want like some Superman as badass shit, honestly I'd tell you to go read JLA Power and Glory. its got some cool moments in it.

There's a ton of good early 90s stuff too but its mostly in uncollected limbo. if you like goofier bronze age stuff almost any issue by Elliot Maggin is pretty good, him and Cary Bates pulled some good material out of an otherwise mostly stupid period.

A lot of my favorite stuff from the 80s to today is sort of sandwiched in uncollected periods and sort of makes little sense without the surrounding things. If you wanted a longer read I'm A huge fan of Exile in particular (its the post crisis Warworld introduction from the late 80s) and the city of tomorrow period has fun stuff in it from the early 00s.

In the early 2010s dc did some reprints called DC Comics Presents Superman that were some early 2000s stuff that never made it to trade, outside of the doomsday one, and sole survivor which both suck, those are worth tracking down. One of them has the Superman vs Dracula issue which is hysterical and worth it for the way it wraps up alone.
Yep, hurting his dog made perfect sense but that would be too evil in current year, hence why it's safe edgy at best. I'm a dog owner and that dog was terrible and embarrassing for anyone who knows about the topic (just like the rest of the movie!).
Yeah the movie made me realize James Gunn is probably an irresponsible dog owner lol with an untrained bad dog who probably acts out bc its ignored otherwise.
Sorry, I was joking there.

It felt like they made Krypto Kara's dog to justify why he's so uncontrollable, only to give audiences a bad first impression of Supergirl as a reckless alcoholic before her own movie hits theaters.
I know, I really just wanted an excuse to complain about Krypto because I haven't really. I'm sure you're rjght, I just hate that we have to take ANOTHER thing away from Superman they flat out can't make a Superman movie without shitting on him.
 
@el bandito loco you clearly know more about Superman than is healthy so I have to ask, what's the best or really goodish "mundane" Superman story? As in not one of the Famous Big Name Important Ones everyone always references like What Ever Happened To or whatever, but a regular issue or TPB/arc off the rack that you absolutely love because it's definitely awesome and would recommend to anyone who wants a cool Supes book to read?
Most of Rebirth, goofy adventures with the fam, a loose “summer” theme over the run and Clark Kent had a bit of a lean into Clark Griswold at times. Fairly low stakes for most of it, crazier and more epic arcs were contained to Action Comics at that time.

You want Superman screaming “YOU BETTER CONTROL THAT KID, WAYNE!” This has it. Chad Dad Supes immediately went away after this run, when the bald faggot took over. Clark has that post-crisis “fire” back. Where he was a bit more willing to be cocky and a bit ruthless. When some friends of the Kents are revealed to be aliens and aiding a villian, he has zero sympathy and was gonna kill them for helping an enemy go after his kid.

It’s only because of Jon that Clark didn’t.

Rebirth was the last hurrah of the character.
Sorry, I was joking there.

It felt like they made Krypto Kara's dog to justify why he's so uncontrollable, only to give audiences a bad first impression of Supergirl as a reckless alcoholic before her own movie hits theaters.
Comic Krypto hated her initially lol, because he knew, what Bruce and later, Diana knew, that something was up.
 
Any suggestion on a good batman comic to read ? I'm taking care of my aunt right now in another state. May visit the local comic shop once I get home
 
Forgot to post new trailer with more Lobo

If nothing else, glad Jason is getting to play his dream role. Wish it was a better film like Superman for it, but still.
 
My copy of the “Absolute” edition for Red Son came in today and I reread it.

God damn that’s a good Elseworld, I still love the idea of Clark being a future human and the L in Kal-L being for Luthor. Also the further proof that Lex is best in a fine suit, on that line between driven and crashing out, while being the “other” perfect ideal of a man.

“Why don't you just put the whole world in a bottle, Superman?"


The “Evil Superman” has a lot of crap in it as an archetype but Red Son is the best of the tyrannical breed, much like Gods and Monsters’ Hernan Guerra being the best of the ruthless ones (followed by Eradicator as the “Last Son”) and showing that you can have a character make ruthless choices and it’s not life-ruining for them.

I figured this thread needed some good Superman talk rather than Superslut and that gay fake-islander playing a shitty character.
 
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While he would disapprove of the violence on both sides, he isn't exactly anti-border like I am guessing these people think he is:
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He might not fully like it, but it is a necessity for a nation and Superman understands that, even if the migrants are "taking nothing."

And before we get hit with the panels of him saving illegals, please note there is a difference between them being left or taken back and some guy shooting at them.
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While he would disapprove of the violence on both sides, he isn't exactly anti-border like I am guessing these people think he is:
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He might not fully like it, but it is a necessity for a nation and Superman understands that, even if the migrants are "taking nothing."

And before we get hit with the panels of him saving illegals, please note there is a difference between them being left or taken back and some guy shooting at them.
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I’ll dig it up but during Rebirth he had a much more severe instance where a group of (illegal) aliens were impersonating a small town and aiding Manchester in a plan to get into Jon’s head. One of which was an illusion that Lois died. Clark was ready to turn them all to ash.

Wondy is the one that would hate ICE.

Batman wouldn’t care, less gang banger shitheads he has to continue to do nothing long-term to fix and Clark is a country boy at heart, we all know who he voted for. Gunn Superman voted for Kamala but the chad Post-Crisis Supes would write a sympathy-story as Clark Kent but coincidentally Superman isn’t nearby when it’s happening.

“Can you believe this, Clark? Tyranny.”

“Yeah it’s so terrible.”
 
While he would disapprove of the violence on both sides, he isn't exactly anti-border like I am guessing these people think he is:
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He might not fully like it, but it is a necessity for a nation and Superman understands that, even if the migrants are "taking nothing."

And before we get hit with the panels of him saving illegals, please note there is a difference between them being left or taken back and some guy shooting at them.
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Statistically, most kryptonian immigrants are criminals.
 
This movie made him retarded. Which, he was funny in places but he still could have been cute and funny but intelligent. he shouldn't not be dog like or something, but he's not like a badly behaved problem pup.
Of all the problems I had with that movie, that dog was by far the worst. Superman wouldn't allow a dog like that onto the planet AT ALL. Behaving like that, he was one accident away from trying to play with some kid and killing it in a gruesome fashion.

The comic Krypto is, first and foremost, an animal you can trust around anyone. Like he wouldn't even kill a bad guy, because if he can do that EVEN ACCIDENTALLY, Clark couldn't let him be around anyone.

The dog in that movie was a piece of shit, ill-behaved mongrel bastard and when he jumped on Lex, that should've been Luthor in a wheelchair for the rest of his life if he survived.
 
I just hate that we have to take ANOTHER thing away from Superman they flat out can't make a Superman movie without shitting on him.
Still better than how the CW Supergirl series had her fight all of her cousin's villains, including Lex Luthor.
Of all the problems I had with that movie, that dog was by far the worst. Superman wouldn't allow a dog like that onto the planet AT ALL. Behaving like that, he was one accident away from trying to play with some kid and killing it in a gruesome fashion.

The comic Krypto is, first and foremost, an animal you can trust around anyone. Like he wouldn't even kill a bad guy, because if he can do that EVEN ACCIDENTALLY, Clark couldn't let him be around anyone.

The dog in that movie was a piece of shit, ill-behaved mongrel bastard and when he jumped on Lex, that should've been Luthor in a wheelchair for the rest of his life if he survived.
It's sad how the League of Super-Pets had a better depiction of Krypto than the Gunn movie.
 
Glad no one is trying to claim the Flash wouldn't support this.
I was most engaged with Injustice as a story when Clark did the world a favour and beat a yuppie champagne socialist to death for invading his home and harming his father. That was inexorably based and chad-pilled. Like that story has its issues, especially in regards to the modern perception of Supes. But its willingness to kill off shit characters is to be commended.

Btw, if that was realistic, Pa Kent would’ve cheered.
 
God damn that’s a good Elseworld, I still love the idea of Clark being a future human and the L in Kal-L being for Luthor.
I always tell people that ending is the single best idea Millar has ever had about anything. I'm not the biggest fan of that comic overall, I like it but it's probably not a top for me, but that ending is awesome. And also on that note, it's maybe my favorite of the big evergreen Superman books they constantly repackage and are the only Superman comics ever in print and recommended to newcomers. Kingdom Come might be better but most of the problems in that story (not flaws the events) are pretty much Superman's fault and so I have mixed feelings on that although I think it as a book and the characterization is great.

I definitely like Red Son more than Birthright, Whatever Happened to, For All Seasons and All Star.

Whatever Happened to is the weirdest one of those evergreen books to me. I don't dislike it, but it's basically just every classic Superman staple dying lol. It's like remember bizarro? How he became just a weird nuisance with his planet he made of family and friends? He snapped and murdered them all. Remember krypto the dog? He dies saving Superman. Remember those two wacky fuckers the prankster and trickster? They killed each other. Remember Mr Mystlptlk? Supermans annoying rival who shows up every few months to play jokes only Superman could understand? He's evil and killing everyone and Superman has to murder him, and then fakes his death after and gets rid of his powers on purpose because he did that.

What the fuck is someone who doesnt know superman supposed to get out of that? He lets people die then bitches out forever once he kills the one responsible? thats what I judge these stories on since they're almost exclusively the ones recommended to newcomers and in print at any given time.
He might not fully like it, but it is a necessity for a nation and Superman understands that, even if the migrants are "taking nothing."
There is weirdly a lot of Superman comics where immigration is talked about. @Humble Architect mentioned another one I recall, and there are other examples I can't think of the specifics of, but also superman batman vs aliens vs predator is this, predators have been living in the hollow earth for a thousand years or something and they decide to forcefully send them back to space because they are wasting resources or something. But there are a ton more with this kind of plot and Superman having that sentiment of I wish I didnt have to, but you gotta go.
 
@el bandito loco I feel like we’ve discussed it for decades. But Post-Crisis Superman needs what happened to Golden Age (folded into Earth-2) and Silver Age (Whatever Happened?) and unlike N52, gets a proper ending because it’s so cooked, the gay son, the little shits, the “Superfamily,” Lois being reduced to “Clark with tits” and now a boxing event for the universe.

Absolute sucks dick (because Aaron sucks and Supes looks like the twink from Dune) and isn’t it. N52 was a half-assed cop-out cause they got cold feet on the “New Generation becomes the League” idea.

But for the next one, they would be wise to look at whatever Mark Millar has planned for his shared universe when Supes goes public domain. Because say what you will about him, he gets Superman and his ideas are clearly coded for the version we’re getting. Especially with his world being a better Earth-3 than Earth-3 is at DC (CAUSE THEY RESTORED IT THEN BLEW IT UP) and Nemesis being Owlman if Owlman was on cocaine and adderall.

I know I’ve got my ideas in place for when Supes is free from those cunts at DC.
 
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