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Teaser for the Clayface movie written by Mike Flanagan just dropped
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God of Nothing
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it's totally going to be different this time
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They just couldn't help themselves, had to cast a butt ugly nigger as the mad scientist doctor/love interest of Clayface. I mean I wasn't going to see this shit anyway since Flanagan has written about one decent project and the rest are shit, but thay jist seals the deal.
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CGI's a little iffy, but I like how it's leaning more into the body horror aspect of the character.
And hey, it's a DC villain movie that isn't just Joker or Harley Quinn.
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Whatever on Clayface, let’s go back to good Bat products:
LEGO just dropped some new teasers first up, Absolute Batman & Catwoman:
Small trailer for Nightwing:
Finally, we got Bat-Mite returning from LEGO Batman 3:
LEGO just dropped some new teasers first up, Absolute Batman & Catwoman:
Small trailer for Nightwing:
Finally, we got Bat-Mite returning from LEGO Batman 3:
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That is a good trailer! A comment on it says they don't need another trailer they should just stick with this, and I agree.
So is this linked to the Reeves The Batman movie? Wasn't Clayface originally supposed to be the villain in the sequel. I am so confused as to how all this links together. Do we get the Battinson in this movie?
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It was originally tied to Reeves, but got moved to being part of Gunn’s universe as a way to introduce Gotham and play into Gunn’s whole “the DCEU is an art house of different genres.”
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Why make a horror movie for a B-Tier villain that long moved to C-tier? Considering that Supergurl WILL fail and therefore Gunn's "DC-verse" will be dissolved, what's the point of this movie?
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Because Guardians of the Galaxy turned D-tier characters into money makers. But that was a very different time.
Also Joker worked, so obviously any edgy version of a Bat-villain movie is a guaranteed billion dollars.
Although I will say this movie has exactly one thing going for it, the budget is "only" $40M*, so it is actually possible that its profitable.
Don't get me wrong, it will be shit, but at least it won't lose $100M like most of the other capeslop.
*Reported production budget only, likely much closer to $60-70M with another $40M for advertising.
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This was in production prior to Gunn and has Reeves connected. It made a last minute transition over to the DCEU, so there actually is a chance this is a good film. Reeves originally wanted to expand his Batman with spin-offs, which we saw with the Penguin. Clayface was another developing project to connect to Battison, alongside an alleged Arkham series. This film wasn't made under anything to do with Gunn or even Joker, it was very much a passion project that got trapped in current restructuring.
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I mean Gunn and Safran are producers and had final approval on its development, so even if it's only tacit because they're required to touch everything DC, their stink is still there.
But moreover, Flanagan has done nothing but utter shit for the last 6 years and was only slightly above mediocre before that (granted, I haven't seen Life of Chuck, but it seems like trash to me, like Flanagan's other King productions).
I will grant that there's a possibility it's good, unlike most other shit, but I would still be very surprised if it is. Even then, I still probably wouldn't enjoy it because of the aforementioned retarded shoehorned she-boon doctor/love interest we're supposed to think is hot.
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If they wanted to do Clayface as a “lead” and a “sympathetic character,” they did the wrong one, which is expected because as we know, these people hate the material.
If this had stayed a Reeves/Battisnson project, Ethan Bennett would’ve been the better Clayface to use. He was made before having “black version of character” was a political statement and from a series that in my opinion, had the best balance between grit, fun, adventure and pulp, one of the few that actually had a pretty well-adjusted Bruce who wasn’t a total boor.
An actor isn’t sympathetic, some prettyboy losing his looks is the stuff of chick drama. Killing Joke without Moore’s masturbation material? A genuinely idealistic and good person getting singled out and made an example of? That’s good. That would’ve fit the Battinson universe and been a good gateway for the “super-criminals” that Long Halloween heralds.
It’s not even losing his looks that destroys Ethan, it’s the world turning its back on him, the cops, society, the city itself is hostile to good men. Literally it’s just Batman at one point who holds barely a flicker of hope for Ethan and it’s rewarded. Just like the end of “The Batman,” where a Batman learns the lesson that he has to be more than a symbol of terror.
Ultimately, this is no different than Sony. Villian movies, without the hero are absurd. Better for streaming miniseries. I predict disaster.
If this had stayed a Reeves/Battisnson project, Ethan Bennett would’ve been the better Clayface to use. He was made before having “black version of character” was a political statement and from a series that in my opinion, had the best balance between grit, fun, adventure and pulp, one of the few that actually had a pretty well-adjusted Bruce who wasn’t a total boor.
An actor isn’t sympathetic, some prettyboy losing his looks is the stuff of chick drama. Killing Joke without Moore’s masturbation material? A genuinely idealistic and good person getting singled out and made an example of? That’s good. That would’ve fit the Battinson universe and been a good gateway for the “super-criminals” that Long Halloween heralds.
It’s not even losing his looks that destroys Ethan, it’s the world turning its back on him, the cops, society, the city itself is hostile to good men. Literally it’s just Batman at one point who holds barely a flicker of hope for Ethan and it’s rewarded. Just like the end of “The Batman,” where a Batman learns the lesson that he has to be more than a symbol of terror.
Ultimately, this is no different than Sony. Villian movies, without the hero are absurd. Better for streaming miniseries. I predict disaster.
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And why release it before actually introducing Batman? Joker at least had the excuse of being in its own universe, but this is a DCU project.
I'll always be salty that Bennett and Yin were all but dropped from the show in favor of redoing stuff from TAS.
If this had stayed a Reeve/Battisnson project, Ethan Bennett would’ve been the better Clayface to use. He was made before having “black version of character” was a political statement and from a series that in my opinion, had the best balance between grit, fun, adventure and pulp, one of the few that actually had a pretty well-adjusted Bruce who wasn’t a total boor.
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well, yeah
that's what this is
giving some villain their own movie without the hero
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Exactly and other than Joker 1, which was just even more jewish Taxi Driver and Venom, which was a fluke, they were all disasters.
Both Suicide Squads, Morb, Kraven and Joker 2 all villian movies lacking a hero, all failures. Penguin wisely was a series. Honestly it fills me with a bit of hope that the villian movies failed.
The early “The Batman” is gold in terms of tone and what to do when following up an iconic series. Don’t be like it all outside the red night skies. He’s sleeker, faster and you would expect edgier cause of the 2000s…… but he’s not. The younger more “wink-wink” playboy Bruce Wayne who likes fast cars, basketball and models is one of the most level-headed Bruce iterations. Which is a bold defiance of one of the most universally canon works, Year One. I love it. The world of that Gotham is spikey, grotesque and hostile, Batman is not. He also killed Dracula like an absolute beast.
The theme for the early seasons was also my favourite Bat theme, again, biased cause that was my Batman growing up and those are the voices I “hear” when reading Bat-stuff. Wish there were more comics that had the tone of that series.
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So the jealous little boy Gunn has proceeded to steal the toys of the more talented child. There are worse people in the world... probably. But there's something about his polluting mediocrity that just really gets to me. He has ruined or blocked the works of better men, and I despise him for it.
One of the things I found very promising about The Batman was that Reeves was very controlled with his tone. People think of it as one of those very realistic takes - the batmobile is sort of a musclecar, the suit is visibly armoured, the Riddler is a low-key criminal rather than zany-flamboyant. All this is true and yet the aesthetic he uses is very much more comic book than Nolan's for example. The atmosphere, the angles, the palette. And he was planning to use Clayface even early on. His was a universe that I could see incorporating slightly more comic book elements than the Nolan movies for all that it was a "gritty" take on the franchise. The mysterious drug that Bruce injects himself in at the end, I think is venom for example. And we know there was going to be a body-morphing Clayface in it. This is something I really liked about his movie - it was realism but not in the same way that Nolan's was. Nolan's had an ultra-realistic aesthetic but was not realistic (driving on rooftops for example). Reeve's film was realistic, but had a comic book aesthetic. The latter approach actually allows for horror in it. I would love to have seen Clayface properly incorporated in the Batman universe.
I fear you are right. But what will hurt is if the movie is good enough in other ways that I see what might have been.
Fuck Gunn.
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Can't recall that part. I only remember how that movie was waay too long, Bruce didn't know what "Bat" means in Spanish despite being told so, and failing to capture the villain. Oh and he failed to stop the mayor from being shot, but she was a nigress so she has more plot-armor than the average isekai MC.
Shame about the Mexican black Catwoman who stood out like a sore thumb, and who insulted Bruce by calling him "dirty whithey" to boot
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Reeves was pretty obviously taking the “old guard is getting replaced by the super criminal” approach and “The Batman” was the last whimper of the mob.
Bats going full Golden Age Superman at the end is the “supervillains coming to kill Falcone” moment, the new breed is here and the old, the mobsters? The world they made is spitting out their opposition and replacements.
I think Clayface would’ve been a good showing of just horrifying the “super-criminal” would be.
“The Batman” has flaws, but it’s the closest movie Batman has come to the Batman I like, the detective in hell trying to fix the unfixable and dragging scum kicking and screaming into a nightmare prison built by a madman to punish. Hades in a bat suit, that’s what I like.
Bats going full Golden Age Superman at the end is the “supervillains coming to kill Falcone” moment, the new breed is here and the old, the mobsters? The world they made is spitting out their opposition and replacements.
I think Clayface would’ve been a good showing of just horrifying the “super-criminal” would be.
To be fair, Selina’s been a mutt for years before that movie. I dunno, I found it funny that she said the “dirty white man” thing and that’s the person she’s probably most similar to in the city. Both chewed-up products of a failed system in ridiculous costumes running around like maniacs.
“The Batman” has flaws, but it’s the closest movie Batman has come to the Batman I like, the detective in hell trying to fix the unfixable and dragging scum kicking and screaming into a nightmare prison built by a madman to punish. Hades in a bat suit, that’s what I like.
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having your protagonist raped and murdered for the wrong audience liking him in the first movie would ruin the second
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That isn't actually what happened - and sorry, had this explained to me by a vid.
The phrase was "el rata alada" which is poor Spanish for the winged rat as it is using a masculine pronoun on a female noun. The phrase should be "la rata alada." Where Batman messed up was assuming Riddler didn't know proper Spanish, missing on what the message actually was which was a play on URL: "You are el rata alada" | U R L rata alada. The website Batman enters is Rataalada.com.
Reeves didn't make Batman stupid, just dismissive. If anything, the clue was too high-end for most of the audience to understand which is why it is seen as a massive flaw. In the film, Batman is actually reasonable. The message signifies a winged rat, Batman assumes rat as in someone who snitches, so goes to Penguin who may be a secret police informant.