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I don't think the overall sound will be changing that much without Andy, he's an important part of the sound, of course, but IIRC he's been on record that the one that contributes to the sound the hardest is Zach, as long as he sticks around, i think there's not thing to fear.
 
Ive always seen Andy as the audio engineer guy of the band.
 

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Well Death Grips IS a Zach hill project, even Andy admitted this on a tweet I can’t find.
Hypercop said:
So Zach is amazing at drums and writes the songs and is in charge of the whole sound?
He's like carrying the whole project on his shoulders.
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Hypercop said:
So Zach is amazing at drums and writes the songs and is in charge of the whole sound?
He's like carrying the whole project on his shoulders.
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Yeah I would have expected it was the keyboardist that wrote everything but the project is really all Zach writing the music and Ride doing all the lyrics.

RCRA/CERCLA/GOONER said:
What type of rock genra do they make?
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Homeless black man with occult tattoos screams nonsense on top of pretty sick drum beats and electronic noise. Somehow it's compelling.
 
Dragged Into Sunlight said:
Yeah I would have expected it was the keyboardist that wrote everything but the project is really all Zach writing the music and Ride doing all the lyrics.
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What's really interesting about Death Grips is that it is sort of first and foremost a Zach Hill project, and while you might be inclined to believe in the drums, production, lyrics/frontman division of labor, from what they've said in their rare interviews and peeks behind the curtain, they collaborate on everything.

It might seem sensible that Stefan writes the lyrics, while Zach and Andy do the work of producing and composing the music, this does not appear to be the case, so much as they all do everything together. Which is why having Andy seemingly out of the picture makes Death Grips going forward a much more interesting project. I'm curious to see what they will do with Zach and Stefan making all creative decisions, and how Nick supposedly being officially part of the band will play into the picture.

From the pictures posted above, it seems possible they might move in a less electronic direction, imagine Death Grips as some strange blend of jazz, math rock, rap, rock and roll, punk, that's almost what they were doing on Year of the Snitch, and I'm kind of all for it. I guess it's not outside of their proven wheelhouse, but I think it will be interesting moving forward, if you're a fan of the band.
Though this might not be the case, looking at Zach and Nick's recent side projects, namely Undo K From Hot, not to mention the 2023 tour soundscapes, which seemed to have Sarah Bonito of Kero Kero Bonito mixed into them.
Also, it's almost a bit more eerie than usual to have them just come right out and tell their fans stuff, telling us that the project isn't dead, actually announcing an album directly without any cryptic stuff in it. Seems these long 7, almost 8 years have changed them somewhat.

We might be in for Death Grips 3.0 here, and I wanna see how it goes. Perhaps a new, more open, more collaborative, somehow even more experimental era of Death Grips is incoming.
 
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XavierRBlood said:
How would you guys Reddit proof a band? I ask this because DG is violent disturbed and aggressive music. How the hell do they get such a gay and retarded fan base?
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as a fan who got into them during the 2012 epic label fallout, ive seen the direct influx of the new fanbase sometime after the jenny death release and can assure you that the earlier album years, even considering the mu contributions and fantano co-sign, had a different fan ethos where the band's whole output was more respected for how uniquely outsider it was to music. the new base i think stems from not only the simple change in the overall internet users from then to now, but from the fact these new "fans" explicitly like to parade their music tastes around in circle jerks that affirm themselves in online environments they can't replicate afk because of how autistic or just plain asocial they are. something i believe is apart of many modern music discussion areas even off reddit.

like if you told me back then the band with the literal penis on the album cover had music placements in tv shows and celebrities trying hard to fit in by saying "i listen to this in the gym" back when i was showing my own friends irl this shit to ultimately being banned from the aux indefinitely, i wouldn't have believed you. But unique novelties either stay that way and fade off into obscurity or get commodified into something no longer novel. Death Grips eventually just started making music that people could commodify more easily so it allowed a better point of entry for those who either were too young to care or really just didn't care until it was popular to. This being from my perspective their album bottomless pit is when the shift really took hold.

concerning the novelty of the band once more, think about it this way in terms of history: the money store came out the same year when skrillex was becoming the biggest media pet for music and released bangarang in january 2012. this album was on a sony owned major record label that had released michael jackson among other big names. before this album they literally had one mixtape that was shared around on the internet and through local cali live shows they did. and the sound of both of these albums was something that essentially gave new breath to a subgenre of hip hop not touched properly in a while outside of, you guessed it, obscure novel names that now have died out (dalek, blackie, 2nd gen, techno animal, etc.)

you don't really keep that kinda spectacle for long. you just end or get rebranded into something people can start calling the normal thing. Death Grips probably should've died off for the better like many zach hill projects always did. but at this point, being his most and only financially successful one, i wouldnt be surprised if they just become a experimental rock outfit and never touch an electronic synthesized sound again.
 
syzcagger said:
you don't really keep that kinda spectacle for long. you just end or get rebranded into something people can start calling the normal thing. Death Grips probably should've died off for the better like many zach hill projects always did. but at this point, being his most and only financially successful one, i wouldnt be surprised if they just become a experimental rock outfit and never touch an electronic synthesized sound again.
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As a much newer fan, I started listening to them around 2018, I think you're right on the money with your whole post, I only disagree with one thing, and that's quoted segment. I really like the direction they went with in the latter half of their catalogue, especially Steroids, More Than The Fairy, and Year of the Snitch. Even with Andy out of the picture, I don't think they will fully dispense with the electronic sound, but I agree it will probably be less prominent. Especially with Nick apparently being an official part of the band now.

Also, I do really like how they've blended in more rock elements into their sound. I think it has only improved their music, I don't want it to go away, I want to see the same sort of fusion that was going on in YotS, but more refined. Really though, if the future of their sound was stuff like More Than The Fairy and Steroids, I'd be happy as a clam.
 
The Projects said:
Also, it's almost a bit more eerie than usual to have them just come right out and tell their fans stuff, telling us that the project isn't dead, actually announcing an album directly without any cryptic stuff in it.
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It's almost definitely not true, but I like the theory that this was actually their way of confirming that Death Grips is, in fact, dead and there is no new material coming out. Considering many of their other albums and activities have happened shortly after announcing a break up.
Dragged Into Sunlight said:
Yeah I would have expected it was the keyboardist that wrote everything but the project is really all Zach writing the music and Ride doing all the lyrics.
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Zach does (most of) the lyrics too. He did an interview like 2 years ago where he talked about writing the lyrics for The Money Store. Also if you read lyrics from his other projects or his book Destroying Yourself Is Too Accessible it reads like an entire book of just Death Grips lyrics. I have no idea how he writes like that and then speaks coherently like a normal person.
In 2002, my band Hella opened for [Pavement] at their Sacramento show date and I went on to reference that Fillmore performance when writing the lyrics to a Death Grips song called “Hacker”: “I got this pregnant snake, stay surrounded by long hairs, a plethora of maniacs and spiral stairs”—the pregnant snake being their performance, long hairs in reference to their first album Long Hair in Three Stages, and Spiral Stairs being the second guitarist in Pavement known as Spiral Stairs.
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Side note: I do not have high expectations for an Andy-free, guitar-inclusive, Death Grips album. I just can't see it working.
 
Seeing this thread made me check the deathgrips reddit. Some artist called Jasmine Bean just posted about Andy Morin being an abuser, around 2022. I haven't followed the band's happenings for years but was vaguely aware of him having a reputation for being a creep, but this is the first time I've seen a detailed account. Wonder if this starts a whole movement of women (?) coming out and he gets Bill Cosby'd lol.

One thing this Jasmine mentions is how other women would regular warn her about Morin being a paedo and a groomer.
 
Nuclear Poisoning said:
paedo and a groomer.
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I don't want to get into Nick Fuentes territory or downplay the acts of actual pedophiles, but in the music industry of the 2020s and especially on Reddit, being called a pedophile and a groomer just doesn't carry a lot of weight without some very serious evidence and proof. Any time I check out a subreddit for a band or artist I like there is at least one active thread about how someone in the group or in the associated scene is a groomer or pedophile. It's just as frequent as people pondering stuff like "do you think MC Ride supports trans lives and is anti fascist?"

It's all they talk about all day and night. There also isn't nuance to any of it. If someone is raping kids or sending sexually explicit messages to children, go report it to the police. Sometimes I have to wonder what people care about more: the upvotes and the power to slander a man's reputation and bully people into ruining a man's life, or catching actual child predators.

Has there ever been a time in recorded history where entertainers weren't "creeps" (in your own words)? The guys from Death Grips were homeless drug abusers that lived on the streets in their teenage years and probably still live in a strange hippie commune fucking groupies and tripping balls all day, hanging around the worst scumbags on earth. The entire industry is run by "yids raping kids" and everyone knows it, especially redditors who post about pedophiles all day. "My favorite musicians are exempt from it." Maybe these retards should stop worshiping and idolizing celebrities. As far as I'm concerned every single one of them is on some child rape shit until proven otherwise.
 
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