Debate user Doom and Gloom about the blackpill

[Fareal]

Honestly its funny how my half ironic shit posts sperged many people out. Although I do wish more people would openly admit on how shit dating is and how unfair it is to men who are not conventionally good looking.

I agree, my friend.

Life in my teens and until I married was practically unbearable. I was constantly approached by guys who were nothing but black holes of self esteem, who believed that because they were getting some middling degree in some science bullshit and could maybe scrape up 100 grand a year tops when they graduated, that they were somehow entitled to date the beauty queen law student.

I always tried to be polite and discreet and refuse these offers of sexual intimacy gently, but they just didn’t seem to get the message. Even worse were the old dudes - the people so old they had actually left university - who tried to impress me with their ‘maturity’ and entry level incomes. They never seemed to get that basically offering to spend money on me in return for sexual intimacy was outright calling me a whore. I was not a whore and my “prime young virgin pussy” was not for sale. I can buy my own shoes. Also, I wanted to build a future and a family with a partner. No way was I doing that with some old fuck who would be expecting me to wipe his incontinent ass and feed him slops when I expected to be enjoying my early retirement years.

What was important to me was finding someone who shared my values and goals for the future. Those goals were to successfully start a family and give them the best start in life, and then as they got older and needed me less, to explore my own talents further and maximise my academic career. I wanted a person who shared the values I wanted to impart to my children, particularly a shared religion and a strong focus on educational attainment. I wanted this to be someone of my own age so that we would reasonably expect to share the stages of life together. This was what was actually important to me, as a person in her late teens/early twenties actively screening for a life partner. I was completely unwilling to waste any time dating anyone who didn’t fit what I was looking for.

I found him. Reader, I married him. He is ugly. Like, famously so. This wasn’t important to me because his values aligned with mine. I got what I was looking for. Women are not husband-shopping for an income bracket and a height minimum. They are looking for the guy who will organise their mother’s funeral when they are too upset. The guy who will sit holding their hand silently whilst they miscarry. The guy who will prioritise reading the kids’ bedtime story every night over going to the bar after work. The guy who will say in response to a problem, “Don’t worry, I will handle it” and then go and actually handle it without making a five act drama out of it.

I couldn‘t seem to get those people I was gently brushing off to understand that the thing that scared off other girls who might otherwise have dated them was the sucking void of utter need they projected. No woman, young or old, wants to spend her life pouring her own emotional resilience into a man who constantly, unendingly, insatiably needs reassurance that he isn’t ugly and unloveable and she won’t run off and leave him because she’s a hypergamous whore. It is fucking exhausting. It is not a life. It’s being a handmaiden to an emotional vampire. This is why people tell you to get into therapy. Until you are able to feel more normal about yourself and stop projecting your sarlacc pit of emotional needs to any girl who passes by, no one is going to want to take that on. You can’t raise a family with a guy who needs to suck the soul out of you daily. He needs some resilience. Anyone who becomes a husband and father has many life events where he needs to suck it the ruck up, shut the fuck up, and be the one providing the emotional support. You project the exact fucking opposite and that, not any shit about looksmaxing, is what drives women away from you screaming.

That’s what you need to go to therapy and work on. Christ, you‘re twenty four, you could have your shit absolutely figured out by your mid to late twenties. How awesome that would be.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

Men don't create birth deficiencies and can fuck well into their 50s.

Sure they can, but the offspring is more likely to be autistic or schizophrenic the older the sperm is.

 

[Bad Gateway]

Honestly its funny how my half ironic shit posts sperged many people out. Although I do wish more people would openly admit on how shit dating is and how unfair it is to men who are not conventionally good looking.

You posted this on page SEVEN you weak pussy ass retard. "HURR DURR I was only pretending to be retarded YOU are the retards see see see see how funny and lol xD randem I am"

I'll once again put in a request that you end your own life. Is there a form for that or what

 

[Vince McMahon]

my consolation prize is used up whores and roasties,

How about not hooking up with promiscuous women who fucked during their early years? Oh yeah, you're not looking for quality, you're looking to get your dick wet.

I agree, my friend.

Life in my teens and until I married was practically unbearable. I was constantly approached by guys who were nothing but black holes of self esteem, who believed that because they were getting some middling degree in some science bullshit and could maybe scrape up 100 grand a year tops when they graduated, that they were somehow entitled to date the beauty queen law student.

I always tried to be polite and discreet and refuse these offers of sexual intimacy gently, but they just didn’t seem to get the message. Even worse were the old dudes - the people so old they had actually left university - who tried to impress me with their ‘maturity’ and entry level incomes. They never seemed to get that basically offering to spend money on me in return for sexual intimacy was outright calling me a whore. I was not a whore and my “prime young virgin pussy” was not for sale. I can buy my own shoes. Also, I wanted to build a future and a family with a partner. No way was I doing that with some old fuck who would be expecting me to wipe his incontinent ass and feed him slops when I expected to be enjoying my early retirement years.

What was important to me was finding someone who shared my values and goals for the future. Those goals were to successfully start a family and give them the best start in life, and then as they got older and needed me less, to explore my own talents further and maximise my academic career. I wanted a person who shared the values I wanted to impart to my children, particularly a shared religion and a strong focus on educational attainment. I wanted this to be someone of my own age so that we would reasonably expect to share the stages of life together. This was what was actually important to me, as a person in her late teens/early twenties actively screening for a life partner. I was completely unwilling to waste any time dating anyone who didn’t fit what I was looking for.

I found him. Reader, I married him. He is ugly. Like, famously so. This wasn’t important to me because his values aligned with mine. I got what I was looking for. Women are not husband-shopping for an income bracket and a height minimum. They are looking for the guy who will organise their mother’s funeral when they are too upset. The guy who will sit holding their hand silently whilst they miscarry. The guy who will prioritise reading the kids’ bedtime story every night over going to the bar after work. The guy who will say in response to a problem, “Don’t worry, I will handle it” and then go and actually handle it without making a five act drama out of it.

I couldn‘t seem to get those people I was gently brushing off to understand that the thing that scared off other girls who might otherwise have dated them was the sucking void of utter need they projected. No woman, young or old, wants to spend her life pouring her own emotional resilience into a man who constantly, unendingly, insatiably needs reassurance that he isn’t ugly and unloveable and she won’t run off and leave him because she’s a hypergamous whore. It is fucking exhausting. It is not a life. It’s being a handmaiden to an emotional vampire. This is why people tell you to get into therapy. Until you are able to feel more normal about yourself and stop projecting your sarlacc pit of emotional needs to any girl who passes by, no one is going to want to take that on. You can’t raise a family with a guy who needs to suck the soul out of you daily. He needs some resilience. Anyone who becomes a husband and father has many life events where he needs to suck it the ruck up, shut the fuck up, and be the one providing the emotional support. You project the exact fucking opposite and that, not any shit about looksmaxing, is what drives women away from you screaming.

That’s what you need to go to therapy and work on. Christ, you‘re twenty four, you could have your shit absolutely figured out by your mid to late twenties. How awesome that would be.

Sorry for double-posting, but you're definitely not the best person to write this blanket of text. I remember you commenting on some feminist-themed news and you mentioning how you're adhering to classics of feminism when raising a son.

Someone who actually, unironically mentions feminism in child-rearing and then gives advice about a man being a sole emotional support crutch - should definitely give zero advice to someone who is like @Doom and gloom.

Healthy partner dynamic is for both partners to be uplifting and emotionally supportive.

I hope you are to your husband (provided that he's not pussywhipped, though, I bear no hope to that). Because if not, come 50 years, you will be sorry that you haven't attended to his needs.

 

[Bad Take Crucifier]

Among my female friends, hot girl/ugly guy partnerships don't work too well for the women. Unless the guy has a lot of money/class and it's obvious gold-digging, usually it screams "crippling self-esteem issues" on the woman's part.

Not saying you can't be more attractive than your partner and be emotionally healthy, but I mean when it's extremely huge gaps in the obvious quality of people, the guy probably has other problems like being a shitty person, unpleasant, emotionally abusive, and dead weight to the woman, because she doesn't care at all. I've seen rich, hot girls who date a literal ugly poor dude and get nothing out of it. And the woman is just staying because she thinks that is literally the best she can get.

The incel argument that only top 1% chads get laid is still dumb as fuck. I think the general point stands that you can be average looking, but still get a nicer girl if you are a good guy. Not a toxic entitled incel type. Incels are this same type who are toxic as shit, but think they deserve a 10/10.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

There's lots of guys that leech off their female partner. It's so common and has no redeeming qualities because they won't even cook, clean or do anything productive at home. Like unemployed guys that refuse to get a job but wouldn't tolerate the same from their woman. These types are the useless manchilden who will play video games all day and make women do all the domestic work plus working fulltime and contribute nothing while spending their whole tugboat on weed. Incels are exactly this type that women rightfully loathe and avoid like a deadweight in the ocean. Entitled manchildren that want all the benefits of traditional society except for him to be put up to it's standards. They want a pretty live-in nanny, professional cook, sex worker and gibs dispenser.
They also bitch about landwhales and go on about how disgusting they are but then hypocritically complain their looksmatch is out fucking Chad. If you really are that ugly, the landwhale IS your looksmatch! She's just blemished by her gluttony instead of her genetics. That 4chin story where the guy talks about "getting a boner dancing with a landwhale 5-6" is genuinely disgusting and I can see why her friends told him to fuck off. Its not bc he's a poor discriminated against omega male cursed by his faulty genes who always gets called a creep just for being ugly in the vicinity of women. It's because he clearly has a seething hatred and/or disgust at landwhales yet will pop a boner just by being in the vicinity of one.
Women want to be loved and respected not hatefucked.
That kind of behavior is not dissimilar to troons who despise "fish" (biological women) and want to rape and kill them in jealousy yet want to be one.

 

[Marissa Moira]

I agree, my friend.

Life in my teens and until I married was practically unbearable. I was constantly approached by guys who were nothing but black holes of self esteem, who believed that because they were getting some middling degree in some science bullshit and could maybe scrape up 100 grand a year tops when they graduated, that they were somehow entitled to date the beauty queen law student.

I always tried to be polite and discreet and refuse these offers of sexual intimacy gently, but they just didn’t seem to get the message. Even worse were the old dudes - the people so old they had actually left university - who tried to impress me with their ‘maturity’ and entry level incomes. They never seemed to get that basically offering to spend money on me in return for sexual intimacy was outright calling me a whore. I was not a whore and my “prime young virgin pussy” was not for sale. I can buy my own shoes. Also, I wanted to build a future and a family with a partner. No way was I doing that with some old fuck who would be expecting me to wipe his incontinent ass and feed him slops when I expected to be enjoying my early retirement years.

What was important to me was finding someone who shared my values and goals for the future. Those goals were to successfully start a family and give them the best start in life, and then as they got older and needed me less, to explore my own talents further and maximise my academic career. I wanted a person who shared the values I wanted to impart to my children, particularly a shared religion and a strong focus on educational attainment. I wanted this to be someone of my own age so that we would reasonably expect to share the stages of life together. This was what was actually important to me, as a person in her late teens/early twenties actively screening for a life partner. I was completely unwilling to waste any time dating anyone who didn’t fit what I was looking for.

I found him. Reader, I married him. He is ugly. Like, famously so. This wasn’t important to me because his values aligned with mine. I got what I was looking for. Women are not husband-shopping for an income bracket and a height minimum. They are looking for the guy who will organise their mother’s funeral when they are too upset. The guy who will sit holding their hand silently whilst they miscarry. The guy who will prioritise reading the kids’ bedtime story every night over going to the bar after work. The guy who will say in response to a problem, “Don’t worry, I will handle it” and then go and actually handle it without making a five act drama out of it.

I couldn‘t seem to get those people I was gently brushing off to understand that the thing that scared off other girls who might otherwise have dated them was the sucking void of utter need they projected. No woman, young or old, wants to spend her life pouring her own emotional resilience into a man who constantly, unendingly, insatiably needs reassurance that he isn’t ugly and unloveable and she won’t run off and leave him because she’s a hypergamous whore. It is fucking exhausting. It is not a life. It’s being a handmaiden to an emotional vampire. This is why people tell you to get into therapy. Until you are able to feel more normal about yourself and stop projecting your sarlacc pit of emotional needs to any girl who passes by, no one is going to want to take that on. You can’t raise a family with a guy who needs to suck the soul out of you daily. He needs some resilience. Anyone who becomes a husband and father has many life events where he needs to suck it the ruck up, shut the fuck up, and be the one providing the emotional support. You project the exact fucking opposite and that, not any shit about looksmaxing, is what drives women away from you screaming.

That’s what you need to go to therapy and work on. Christ, you‘re twenty four, you could have your shit absolutely figured out by your mid to late twenties. How awesome that would be.

This whole wall of text reminds me of something....

 

[Vince McMahon]

There's lots of guys that leech off their female partner.

Don't pretend that a lot of girls aren't using their partners as emotional tampons. This isn't something that is unique to a particular gender.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Debates like these should be used in the future for why arranged marriages need to return as the societal standard.

In the one corner, you have the incels/femcels who for whatever reason can't get a relationship, so begin to engage in self-destructive behaviors which further degrade their abilities to ever reproduce. They then lash out aimlessly at society as a whole rather than engaging in any behaviors which might be more constructive towards their goal. Ultimately most of them will end up being genetic dead ends.

In the other corner, you have those who have either benefited or been largely unaffected by the current unsustainable system directly who have many relationships, but very few which actually produce any offspring as modern societies tolerate purely carnal relationships (i.e. why buy the cow if the milk is free?). These people tend to end up ultimately becoming incels/femcels once they pass the age at which they lose their ability to sexually appeal to members of the opposite sex, or they decide to "settle down" past their viable breeding age, which in turn makes a large number of them also genetic dead ends.

The debate between the two always ends up then becoming a sparring match between men and women over who has it worse, who is to blame for the problem, what roles are appropriate for each sex, etc. This of course compounds the problem since it makes hardliners on either side much less likely to ever engage in a fruitful relationship. Likewise, because of the reduced birth rates, the economic system becomes more burdensome on the working-age population. Instead of the nominal economic burden a married couple would have which would be 2 or more children, and 4 or fewer elders, their economic burden is numerous elders who never had children of their own, and to counter this many couples will reduce the number of children they have which provides short term relief, but for obvious reasons just further compounds the problem.

 

[big potato]

All this thread has proven is that Kiwifarms would make a terrible, terrible dating service.

 

[Soynificent]

Don't pretend that a lot of girls aren't using their partners as emotional tampons. This isn't something that is unique to a particular gender.

That reminds me, my female friend is in a great relationship with a dude, but her friends tell her to only go out with a "nigga that can give her money and buy her shit." So yeah, there are plenty of women who will leech off you.

This whole wall of text reminds me of something....

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Don't dox her like that.

 

[Bad Gateway]

@Doom and gloom Come back. Come back and respond to my formal request for you to kill yourself.

 

[Heckler1]

Dudes who unironically spout black pilled whining in regards to dating are absolute losers, addicted to the negative pleasure complaining about how oppressed they are, and their plights. All while also demanding only 10/10's suck me my penis, and demanding gibs and chimping out at the mere shadow of the notion that MAYBE they could make something of themselves if they only seriously tried.

TLR If you believe in the blackpill you are a literal nigger

 

[Fareal]

This whole wall of text reminds me of something....

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Why does this woman not cook and live in a dirty house?

 

[Kabuki Actor]

Sure they can, but the offspring is more likely to be autistic or schizophrenic the older the sperm is.

Aging like a fine wine.

 

[Heckler1]

Why does this woman not cook and live in a dirty house?

I don't know, but somehow it's HER fault!

 

[Sped Xing]

@Fareal and her heartwarming tale of her hideous husband lights up a point about incels and hookup chads alike--

If you think all women are money-grubbing whores with nothing to offer but their gash, the problem is you. Any dame with a good head on her shoulders wouldn't touch you with a ten foot pole. So many incels want to become Chads, but the secret is Chads are losers, too. They reach their forties and suddenly realize they're just the skeezy dude who hangs out at the same bar every night and scares away the college girls.

To paraphrase Katt Williams, "why is you fucking with ain't shit bitches?"

 

[Terrorist]

Take the Clearpill OP. You may not like it but this is what peak male performance looks like:

 

[White Pride Worldwide]

Ay, yo, @Doom and gloom, you scared of me, son? Scared of the fact your whimpering inceldom is likely racial in nature? We finna bust you wide open!


Someone is ranting about women being unfair. That's horribly reductive, but there it is.

Watch out, everyone, Doom and Gloom is playing 4D chess. He's truly a genius and we have no hope of matching his supreme intellect.

It's not unfair, you're just a pussy boy.

I will admit, after plowing all sorts of chicks, it did get a bit hollow. Still better than being a virgin, incel faggot, though.

I doubt either of you had sex ngl.

I agree, my friend.

Life in my teens and until I married was practically unbearable. I was constantly approached by guys who were nothing but black holes of self esteem, who believed that because they were getting some middling degree in some science bullshit and could maybe scrape up 100 grand a year tops when they graduated, that they were somehow entitled to date the beauty queen law student.

I always tried to be polite and discreet and refuse these offers of sexual intimacy gently, but they just didn’t seem to get the message. Even worse were the old dudes - the people so old they had actually left university - who tried to impress me with their ‘maturity’ and entry level incomes. They never seemed to get that basically offering to spend money on me in return for sexual intimacy was outright calling me a whore. I was not a whore and my “prime young virgin pussy” was not for sale. I can buy my own shoes. Also, I wanted to build a future and a family with a partner. No way was I doing that with some old fuck who would be expecting me to wipe his incontinent ass and feed him slops when I expected to be enjoying my early retirement years.

What was important to me was finding someone who shared my values and goals for the future. Those goals were to successfully start a family and give them the best start in life, and then as they got older and needed me less, to explore my own talents further and maximise my academic career. I wanted a person who shared the values I wanted to impart to my children, particularly a shared religion and a strong focus on educational attainment. I wanted this to be someone of my own age so that we would reasonably expect to share the stages of life together. This was what was actually important to me, as a person in her late teens/early twenties actively screening for a life partner. I was completely unwilling to waste any time dating anyone who didn’t fit what I was looking for.

I found him. Reader, I married him. He is ugly. Like, famously so. This wasn’t important to me because his values aligned with mine. I got what I was looking for. Women are not husband-shopping for an income bracket and a height minimum. They are looking for the guy who will organise their mother’s funeral when they are too upset. The guy who will sit holding their hand silently whilst they miscarry. The guy who will prioritise reading the kids’ bedtime story every night over going to the bar after work. The guy who will say in response to a problem, “Don’t worry, I will handle it” and then go and actually handle it without making a five act drama out of it.

I couldn‘t seem to get those people I was gently brushing off to understand that the thing that scared off other girls who might otherwise have dated them was the sucking void of utter need they projected. No woman, young or old, wants to spend her life pouring her own emotional resilience into a man who constantly, unendingly, insatiably needs reassurance that he isn’t ugly and unloveable and she won’t run off and leave him because she’s a hypergamous whore. It is fucking exhausting. It is not a life. It’s being a handmaiden to an emotional vampire. This is why people tell you to get into therapy. Until you are able to feel more normal about yourself and stop projecting your sarlacc pit of emotional needs to any girl who passes by, no one is going to want to take that on. You can’t raise a family with a guy who needs to suck the soul out of you daily. He needs some resilience. Anyone who becomes a husband and father has many life events where he needs to suck it the ruck up, shut the fuck up, and be the one providing the emotional support. You project the exact fucking opposite and that, not any shit about looksmaxing, is what drives women away from you screaming.

That’s what you need to go to therapy and work on. Christ, you‘re twenty four, you could have your shit absolutely figured out by your mid to late twenties. How awesome that would be.

Funny pasta xd

@Fareal and her heartwarming tale of her hideous husband lights up a point about incels and hookup chads alike--

If you think all women are money-grubbing whores with nothing to offer but their gash, the problem is you. Any dame with a good head on her shoulders wouldn't touch you with a ten foot pole. So many incels want to become Chads, but the secret is Chads are losers, too. They reach their forties and suddenly realize they're just the skeezy dude who hangs out at the same bar every night and scares away the college girls.

To paraphrase Katt Williams, "why is you fucking with ain't shit bitches?"

Just find a 1 million girl bro its not like there are 7 billion+ people in the world and the chances of finding a girl like that for you is virtually slim to none though!

 

[Sped Xing]

Just find a 1 million girl bro its not like there are 7 billion+ people in the world and the chances of finding a girl like that for you is virtually slim to none though!

Thank you for the nice compliment. I will pass it on to my wife.