Debate user @NoBueno if his schizo theory holds up

[NoBueno]

 

[XL xQgg?QcQCaTYDMjqoDnYpG]

Debating, or arguing in general, presupposes logic. Logic presupposes that terms refer to something real and identifiable. Your claims are untethered from reality and thus arbitrary, disconnected from reality, cognitive poison.
Your "schizo theory" solely refers to imaginary things, accordingly debate is not just unproductive, it's structurally impossible.

 

[NoBueno]

Debating, or arguing in general, presupposes logic. Logic presupposes that terms refer to something real and identifiable. Your claims are untethered from reality and thus arbitrary, disconnected from reality, cognitive poison.
Your "schizo theory" solely refers to imaginary things, accordingly debate is not just unproductive, it's structurally impossible.

 

[LolcowsESL]

SiMalo

 

[XL xQgg?QcQCaTYDMjqoDnYpG]

If reality is just a simulation, then so are your schizo theory, your words, and the very idea of meaning. You can't question reality while still assuming that logic, language, and communication are things that function.
Once again, something that is arbitrary cannot be debated in any meaningful sense.

 

[NoBueno]

If reality is just a simulation, then so are your schizo theory, your words, and the very idea of meaning. You can't question reality while still assuming that logic, language, and communication are things that function.
Once again, something that is arbitrary cannot be debated in any meaningful sense.

I'm only offering the truth, nothing more

 

[XL xQgg?QcQCaTYDMjqoDnYpG]

I'm only offering the truth, nothing more
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Let me get this straight: You call it a schizo theory and claim it's the truth. But truth refers to a correct identification of reality and schizophrenia refers to detachment from it. You can't have both. If your framework rejects reality as the standard, then any assertion of "truth" is a misappropriation of that label.

 

[Grub]

Debating, or arguing in general, presupposes logic. Logic presupposes that terms refer to something real and identifiable. Your claims are untethered from reality and thus arbitrary, disconnected from reality, cognitive poison.
Your "schizo theory" solely refers to imaginary things, accordingly debate is not just unproductive, it's structurally impossible.

I'm still trying to figure out how you got a theory out of that. It just looked like a bunch of words from some fantasy and sci fi stories kind of jumbled together with a bunch of random nonsense to me.

 

[XL xQgg?QcQCaTYDMjqoDnYpG]

I'm still trying to figure out how you got a theory out of that. It just looked like a bunch of words from some fantasy and sci fi stories kind of jumbled together with a bunch of random nonsense to me.

The OP labels it a "schizo theory"
Given that all of it is arbitrary (none of it pertains to reality), I didn't bother assessing whether it is or isn't a theory. We can call it a squabooshle and it would be equally meaningful

 

[Grub]

The OP labels it a "schizo theory"
Given that all of it is arbitrary (none of it pertains to reality), I didn't bother assessing whether it is or isn't a theory. We can call it a squabooshle and it would be equally meaningful

Yeah I just reread your post and realized you were just quoting his words. My bad.

 

[NoBueno]

Let me get this straight: You call it a schizo theory and claim it's the truth. But truth refers to a correct identification of reality and schizophrenia refers to detachment from it. You can't have both. If your framework rejects reality as the standard, then any assertion of "truth" is a misappropriation of that label.

It is a schizo theory technically

 

[Mound Dweller]

No my friend there is nothing to find in the sewers you do not need that key do not open the vaulted gateway to the colony the drainage cistern turn around and go home now.

 

[XL xQgg?QcQCaTYDMjqoDnYpG]

It is a schizo theory technically
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Does any of it pertain to reality or not?

 

[NoBueno]

Does any of it pertain to reality or not?

You want to just ask about 666? The Carbon material plane? Okay

 

[Liquid Gaddafi]

Logic presupposes that terms refer to something real

Does it? I agree with the sentiment of your post but I disagree with this. Logical truths are independent of the reality of their terms or empirical data in general. The proposition (p & -p) is always false, it doesnt matter if (p) means unicorns or a greek god or ideal items like numbers. This is where logic gets its propedeutic nature from. Maybe I'm misinterpreting what you mean by "presupposes".

 

[XL xQgg?QcQCaTYDMjqoDnYpG]

Does it? I agree with the sentiment of your post but I disagree with this. Logical truths are independent of the reality of their terms or empirical data in general. The proposition (p & -p) is always false, it doesnt matter if (p) means unicorns or a greek god or ideal items like numbers. This is where logic gets its propedeutic nature from. Maybe I'm misinterpreting what you mean by "presupposes".

If unicorns are mammals and all mammals are reptiles, then unicorns are reptiles.
That is formally valid, but completely detached from reality. Not due to a logical flaw, but due to false or meaningless premises.
The application of logic (reasoning) presupposes that terms refer to something identifiable. Otherwise, what you're doing is not thinking, but playing with shapes. Which is one of my main reasons for dismissing formal logic as symbol games.
Remember that logic is more than just symbol manipulation, it is the disciplined application of concepts to facts. Logic is only epistemically valid (read: leading to cognition) when it's grounded in objective conceptual content. Concepts must ultimately be reducible to perceptual data, and that means logical propositions only become knowledge when their terms are traceable to reality. Playing with terms like "unicorn" or "Zeus" can be formally valid, but it is not cognitive logic in the sense that I adhere to.

tl;dr logic is more than a formal system, it is a tool of knowledge. Truth is more than a relationship among symbols, it is a grasp of reality.

 

[Nottafed]

no. go to church and get a girlfriend. stop being a faggot.
that's my analysis.

 

[NoBueno]

tl;dr logic is more than a formal system, it is a tool of knowledge. Truth is more than a relationship among symbols, it is a grasp of reality.

A am working within a logical framework, it just doesn't align with your view of reality. As if you were dropped into the Forgotten Realms and told we have to help Mystra.

No my friend there is nothing to find in the sewers you do not need that key do not open the vaulted gateway to the colony the drainage cistern turn around and go home now.

 

[%%%]

Why do you always use AI for your schizoposts?

 

[umseriously]

No. Like Terry Davis said, only idiots find complexity as being a inherently good thing to have. If negative emotions are being harvested in anyway metaphysical sense, it's being done in a much more simple manner than your post implies.