Debate user 'Null' if America has Cheese, Meat, and Bread.

[Castoreum]

This is also true when it comes to restaurants. Because Europeans cook way more often, not only is the availability of fresh and quality ingredients way higher, but restaurants also have to compete to serve a commercial demographic already capable of cooking. As a result, food served is much better and also more affordable.

I haven't had a positive USA restaurant experience in 10+ years. The food suuuuuucks and the waitstaff is always miserable. It's gotten so much worse after COVID. Prices are jacked up and portions are smaller. But most Americans I know don't know how to cook but one or two dishes, and don't bother to try to learn more, so they don't even know that the restaurant food has gotten so bad.

Every time I'm invited out to a restaurant, I heavily consider hanging myself instead.

And yet, there seems to be this stigma around home-cooking being unsanitary and/or for poor people. I've met people who brag about "not eating leftovers" like it's some sort of flex. (????) It's like people go to restaurants for the sole experience to masquerade as rich retards with servants.

 

[BlueArmedDevil]

Outside edge of the Chicago burbs here and I can think of at least two dozen places both in and out of the city that I can get all sorts of small batch, sustainable, traceable...ect...ect cheeses and meats from. Big box grocery stores have their own bakeries too in addition to small mom and pop shops.

 

[Ghostse]

Meat is easiest.
Any independent butcher in an area with Giant Horned Rats (deer) will process anything you give them that isn't contaminated road kill.

Any supermarket will have the chi-chi cheese counter to buy your hunks right off the wheels imported from Europe. Goddamn Kroger has a faggot cheese counter.

And these stupid things used to be everywhere in the mid/late nineties

Throw flour, egg, butter, and yeast in and get bread at the end.
the craze went away because it wasn't any cheaper than store bought, clean up was hell, it molded over in 36 hours, and the loaves were oddly shaped, round, and didn't slice well.

 

[Echo_Ender]

I don't care enough to post pics and/or dox myself, but there are definitely fresh, unprocessed foods available if you don't live in an urban rathole.

There are half a dozen bakeries near my place that bake multiple styles of fresh bread everyday. Hell, most grocery stores have an in-house bakery that makes bread in my area.

And no, I'm not talking about the pre-sliced loaves of shit. I'm talking about it coming right out of the oven, slice-it-yourself stuff.

For meat and cheese, if you want it "from the source" fresh, you'd have to go to a slaughterhouse or dairy farm, respectively. And know what you're actually looking for.

I'll admit flat-out that the cheese selection has nothing on other parts of the world. Colby, Cheddar, Swiss, Muenster, and Mozarella are about the limit outside of artisan stuff. But you can get it fresh if you know where to look.

2) Your butchers are not butchering animals. Ask them if their meat comes from a USDA inspected factory. They will say yes.

I worked in a butcher shop for a while. You are partly correct. We never slaughtered animals and we rarely broke down whole animals because it's a fuckton of work, makes a huge mess, and leaves a lot of waste.

Most butcher shops don't do that stuff because of those reasons. It's more of a "Receive a massive chunk of a cow and cut it apart into various cuts of beef to sell"

Our meat never came from a factory. It came from a slaughterhouse, which is a USDA-inspected FACILITY, yes. But everything commercially selling meat has to be USDA inspected, so that doesn't mean much.

We took a tour and you could watch them slaughter and break down a whole cow. Or pig. Or even the occasional goat. They break them down, inspect them, and ship them out.

Hell, once a year, we'd buy a whole pig and roast it for a big cookout. And that's not even getting into the local shops that can break down various hunted game like deer, turkey, squirrels, rabbits, ect.

 

[The Blue Morpho]

If you're in the midwest you're fucked, its walmart town. WI is only good if you like 50 varieties of cheddar.

Objectively false. My town has bakeries, butchers/meat markets, fish markets, farmer's markets and even the grocery stores have sections offering quality local meat, cheese and baked-in-store bread. USA is a big place, people paint with a broad brush and are often wrong. Its the center of a global evil empire, even third-rate towns can source quality food.

Any independent butcher in an area with Giant Horned Rats (deer) will process anything you give them that isn't contaminated road kill.

We've always processed our deer at our favorite local butcher

 

[REGENDarySumanai]

I see that the shopping cart thread came back from the dead.

 

[Skeletonized Cow]

Americans are so superior they can have access to the finest varieties of meat, cheese, bread and produce in quantities and at prices that would make King Croesus blush and still pick the goyslop and this INFURIATES Europoors and surrogate Europoors like Null

It's sour grapes mentality. Europeans are eternally BTFOed by American superiority.

 

[UnknownUser]

So let's say everything Null said is true and Americans have no access to actual food and are sub human troglodytes that eat sawdust Jews dyed different colors and slapped a label on.

America is the biggest superpower in the world we could fuck every single army at the same time into the ground and completely dominate anything we wanted to. We currently have a literal corpse as the President of the United States and the world trembles when we move our Navy around that polices the entirety of the ocean.

So if Americans are just a bunch of fat fucking retards incapable of doing anything like feeding themselves, the hell does that make the rest of the world? Sucks to suck ex pats and Eurofags but I'mma eat my cheese from a can and watch you get raped by Muslims while Israel kills all the Palestinians.

 

[sallowhal]

if you live in a food desert, yeah. but in the average town you'd be hard pressed to not find an actual bakery, deli or butcher within driving distance. most people eat goyslop because they don't know any better/how to cook/are too lazy to buy fresh food.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Unless you live in a big city, you do not have access to the quality of food found in Europe. If you've never been, you have no idea what you're missing out on. To quote Boris Yeltson, if Amerimutts knew all their food was goyslop and even poor shithole countries have real food in Europe, "there would be a revolution".

A bit provocative and optimistic since a LOT of the cheaper food in EU is pure, unadulterated, refined goyslop too, but I'm glad to hear that Amerimutts are having it even worse

 

[Johan Schmidt]

the craze went away because it wasn't any cheaper than store bought, clean up was hell, it molded over in 36 hours, and the loaves were oddly shaped, round, and didn't slice well.

Making your own sandwich bread is pointless IMO. Without the additives and leaveners used by commercial bakers, it's just a waste. I don't eat bread regularly enough to justify making my own. It's a once a week thing at most, so I'm cool with just buying a small crusted loaf.

EDIT: I lived in britbongistan, Germany, and now Weimerica. Generally, farmers markets and local places all sell good shit in all three places. Some have better of one thing, and worse of the other, but they're pretty equal. In terms of supermarket big chains. Europe/Bongland are equal. Mutt chain supermarkets have diabolically bad lower rung stuff. Really pushes the envelope on what should be allowed to be called food lol.

Just avoid goyslop zones and you're good.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

https://texasfrenchbread.com/

Also, the HEBs here literally bake multiple types of bread on-premise every day.

A lot of butchers will also tell you where they source their meats

https://www.saltandtime.com/our-farmers

They list 44farms as a supplier but 44farms doesn't say where they get their beef cut.

 

[Unexpected Genitals]

Don't worry Null, we still love you even if you're a little bit retarded.

 

[Harvey Danger]

99% of American everything is mass produced by the AMERICAN GOYSLOP FOOD PRODUCT SUPPLIER INTERNATIONAL, INC which uses clone animals grown in fucking labs literally patented at a genetic level. They make white eggs.

Careful, this user might hunt you down for saying that. He's a bit of a loose cannon.

 

[Blackstar]

Will the trannies switch strategy to emailing Josh to argue about cheese to waste his time???

 

[Fetish Roulette]

Bad thread, OP should lurk moar.

 

[FamicomGorby]

Well I live in a major city, but I guess I'll see about stopping in a podunk grocery store in one of the more middle of nowhere parts of the state.

 

[j666]

And you might think if you walk down to your local deli you can buy a cut right off a local cow. WRONG!!!! WRONG!!!!!!!!!!! It is FEDERALLY ILLEGAL to sell meat you butchered yourself. The only way you buy local meat butchered by a guy you know is to buy half of an entire cow to get what is called 'custom meat', which CANNOT be sold as individual cuts. ALL meat in the US is from slaughterhouses.

this is quite literally not true. im sorry you grew up in the shithole that is florida, but custom slaughters are very common in the midwest. you can absolutely bring a whole ass live cow to a local state-inspected slaughter facility and sell the packaged meat at your own butcher shop or grocery store.

2) Your butchers are not butchering animals. Ask them if their meat comes from a USDA inspected factory. They will say yes.

there are 1000000% butcher shops that sell local, state-inspected meat. the only real reason slaughter/fabrication facilities apply for USDA certification & inspection is so the product can be sold over state lines.

you have 0 idea what youre talking about and its kinda embarrassing.
also idk if any of this was already answered, im not reading the entire thread.

t. someone who worked in a management position for a meat fabrication facility for 4 years. we specialized in breaking down local cattle and selling the cuts to local & major grocery store chains.

 

[Sneedmiser]

The bagged cheese aisle isn't the actual cheese section you sperg, almost every supermarket has a section with actual block and wedge cheese. Yes, even Walmart outside of the hood.
I guess if you were a broke-ass Floridian shopping at Price Rite all you'd find is bagged cheese.

 

[God's strongest milkman]

That's an exception and not the rule. I think Missouri's model of in-state steak is brand new, I remember hearing the news that MO was looking at implementing this into law around the time I first chimped out about USDA slaughterhouses.

Actually 29 states out of 50 have state meat inspection which have been set up in an agreement with FSIS. More than half have state inspection as an option but you can't sell that mea lt out of state.